March 2006 - Inkscape Devel - Inkscape Mailman

Animation
by Martin Owens 17 Mar '06

17 Mar '06

Thinking about this feature, if inkscape wants to be a drawing tool then it will never develop the ability to handle animations, they would be counter to the way a document is handled, printed ect. but if inkscape is moving towards complete support of SVG only then it will be interesting to see animation features added, although I'd create a separate tool which used alot of the same code, because lets face it there is alot of really nice tools that can be developed for animation programs but aren't useful for a drawing app. -- #::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::# #::.. http://www.doctormo.co.uk/ ..::# #::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::#

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] layer dialog question
by MenTaLguY 17 Mar '06

17 Mar '06

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:02:05 -0600, Aaron Spike <aaron@...749...> wrote: > I must have missed this... Why do you need both? Would the layers dialog > simply be a filtered special case of the object tree dialog? Not exactly. The layer dialog would be principally for working with layers as layers. A step up from the quick layer selector. Selecting a layer in the layer dialog would make it the current layer. The object tree dialog would be an expanded version of the XML editor. There, selection would mean selection as an object, and you'd have an attributes pane, etc... We'd probably be able to reuse the same widget for the tree portion of both dialogs, but that's about all they'd have in common. -mental

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layer dialog question
by MenTaLguY 17 Mar '06

17 Mar '06

Should the layer dialog show only the "normal" layers, or show also groups which have been temporarily promoted into layers as the quick layer selector does? -mental

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] layer dialog question
by Martin Owens 17 Mar '06

17 Mar '06

It'd be nice to treat linked svg like a sub layer too. On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 12:03:48 -0700 , "Joshua A. Andler" <joshua@...533...> wrote: >mental@...3... wrote: >> Quoting bulia byak <buliabyak@...400...>: >> >> >>> I remember you were talking about it showing even down to >>> individual objects if you expand the tree. >>> >> >> I'm leaning away from that now after our last conversation on the >> topic (some time ago). Among other things, selection of layers >> (sets the current layer) is very different to selection of objects >> (selects objects). >> >> I think what I want to do at this point is to do a traditional >> layers dialog that just does layer-ish stuff, and then rework the >> XML dialog to provide both "XML" and "SVG Object" views. >> > > >I just wanted to follow-up on this as I had been doing some print work >in Illustrator this morning and checked their layers dialog. As of at >least AI 10 you can expand the layers down to groups and groups down to >objects, etc (and of course continue expanding groups if there are more >nested in there). I know we don't follow Illustrator by any means, but >the more I think about it, it does make sense to expand down that far in >the layers dialog. I think it makes more sense since we are now going to >have to work with sub-layers in that dialog anyway (which will already >require a tree view since there is now UI to create sub-layers). Just an >updated .02 ;) > >-Josh > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language >that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast >and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! >http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 >_______________________________________________ >Inkscape-devel mailing list >Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel > > -- #::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::# #::.. http://www.doctormo.co.uk/ ..::# #::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::#

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] [Fwd: Inkscape und Xara Xtreme]
by Martin Owens 17 Mar '06

17 Mar '06

will we beable to use any of their code? On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 15:47:15 +0100 , Adib Taraben <taraben.a@...50...> wrote: >Hello, > >I received an e-mail from the german computer magazin asking what is the >progress with the XARA involvement and what is the impact/influence into >Inkscape. >And also he want to know if this is going into a competition between the >two products. >He is refering the LIBRE-Meeting. Was there someone? > >I did not really red all the e-mail's abaout that. So can someone >summarize this? > >Thanks, > >Adib. >-------- Original-Nachricht -------- >Betreff: Inkscape und Xara Xtreme >Datum: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 13:44:28 +0100 >Von: Peter König <pek@...883...> >An: Adib Taraben <taraben.a@...50...> > >Hallo, > >leider nur aus der Ferne verfolge ich das Libre Graphics Meeting in >Lyon. Besonders interessiert mich die Entwicklung in Sachen Open Source >Xara Xtreme und Inkscape. > >Nachdem Xara im vergangenen Jahr angekündigt hatte, den Code seiner >Software für Linux und Mac freizugeben, kursierte meines Wissens nach >die Vorstellung, dass die Communities von Xara und Inkscape eng >zusammenarbeiten würden bzw. es eventuell sogar eine Fusion der Projekte >geben würde. > >Mich würde interessieren, ob sich die Lage inzwischen verändert hat, und >wie das Xara-Projekt bei Ihnen in der Inkscape-Community mittlerweile >gesehen wird. Denn von Xaras Webseiten entnehme ich, dass die Firma >großes vorhat: > >"Xara Xtreme on Linux will not only bring a leading-edge graphic tool to >the platform, but with community assistance, has the potential to become >the world's most powerful, easiest-to-use and simply the world's best >graphics program." > >Auf den Veranstaltungsseiten des Libre Graphics Meeting heißt es noch >etwas direkter: > >"Xara's goal is simple: With the help of the open-source developer >community they hope to create the fastest, most powerful, easiest to >use, general purpose graphics tool for Linux (and Mac)." > >Und das läuft doch in der Konsequenz auf eine direkte Konkurrenz zu >Inkscape heraus, oder irre ich mich da? Über eine Einschätzung oder ein >paar Hintergrundinformationen von Ihrer Seite würde ich mich freuen -- >sie würden es mir ermöglichen, die Ankündigungen von Xara auf dem Libre >Graphics Meeting etwas differenzierter in unserem Newsticker darzustellen. > >Können Sie mir da - zeitnah - weiterhelfen? > >Mit Dank und freundlichen Grüßen, > >Peter König > >c't - Magazin für Computertechnik http://www.heise.de/ct/ >Heise Zeitschriften Verlag GmbH & Co.KG phone: 0511-5352-763 >Helstorfer Str. 7 fax: 0511-5352-417 >D-30625 Hannover, Germany eMail: pek@...883... > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language >that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast >and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! >http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid0944&bid$1720&dat1642 >_______________________________________________ >Inkscape-devel mailing list >Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel > > -- #::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::# #::.. http://www.doctormo.co.uk/ ..::# #::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::#

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[Fwd: Getting Inkscape working on my iBook G4]
by Jon Phillips 17 Mar '06

17 Mar '06

Hi David, I've forwarded your request to the Inkscape development and user mailing lists. If anyone else knows the problem, please contribute. Thanks, Jon -------- Forwarded Message -------- > From: rejon.org feedback form <noreply@...235...> > Reply-To: jon@...235... > To: jon@...235... > Subject: Getting Inkscape working on my iBook G4 > Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 05:11:30 -0600 > > Name: David Karner > E-mail: davekarner@...1210... > > > Hello, > > I've installed my first copy of Inkscape but I can't seem to get past > the "Apple X11 Required, Please install and restart Inkscape" stage. > I installed X11 from my Tiger Installation CD and thought that would > do it. I restarted Inkscape, but still received the error. > > Do you know what step I'm missing? > > I would appreciate any support you could give me in getting going > with Inkscape! > > Sincerely, > > David > > -- Jon Phillips San Francisco, CA USA PH 510.499.0894 jon@...235... http://www.rejon.org MSN, AIM, Yahoo Chat: kidproto Jabber Chat: rejon@...896... IRC: rejon@...897... Inkscape (http://inkscape.org) Open Clip Art Library (www.openclipart.org) Creative Commons (www.creativecommons.org) San Francisco Art Institute (www.sfai.edu)

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WEBFORM problems downloading _20060306.dmg (OSX)
by Kat 17 Mar '06

17 Mar '06

Message from Inkscape submission form Please note, that the submitter may not read this list. CC your answer to the submitter name: Kat email: kat888@...65... submitted the following: Hi, I\'m having problems downloading Inkscape_20060306.dmg (Which I\'m hoping will work with OSX 10.4.5) - gets to about 3.5M and then the download stalls. Is there an alternative source? The only others I have found have v0.43-2 which won\'t work with the updated X11 environment in 10.4.5. Thanks Kat

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crispy icons?
by bulia byak 17 Mar '06

17 Mar '06

Have we switched to the crispy set by now? If not, what holds us back? If nothing, can anyone please do this? -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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"link" and "unlink" in icons
by Aaron Spike 16 Mar '06

16 Mar '06

In our three icons sets we have three different depictions of link and unlink for edit_clone and edit_unlink_clone. The legacy set features a yellow line. The new crispy set features a padlock. And David's set features a chain. I prefer the chain. It means something to me. When I see the chain I immediately think about "link". For me this is a better iconification of the concept. Is this a cultural issue? Would anyone else prefer the chain over the lock? Perhaps icon sets need to be localized. :-) Aaron Spike

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Fwd: Message sent to Toyo Inks Melbourne
by Janet Hawtin 16 Mar '06

16 Mar '06

Hi team I am not a dev person, but I posted to a company today that I thought could be a good potential partner for opensource graphic application developers. The are an international printing ink manufacturer. Much respected in the printing sector and who do have an alternative colour matching system integrated into proprietory software at this time. As they are not the primary colour matching system used in that market I thought they might be interested in what could happen if they partner with open source tech. Anyway my 2 messages are included below in reverse order. Top one is to Kylie in Melbourne, Bottom one was sent first, through their website form. I am trying to make sure that I am letting the developers know what I posted. These messages were posted by me as an individual and are not intended to represent the opinion of any group, but I hope that they will make it possible for Toyo to check out open source and see if its something they can participate in. All the best Janet -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Libre Graphics Meeting, 17, 18 and 19 March 2006 in Lyon, France Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 16:43:06 +1030 From: Janet Hawtin <lucychili@...1211...> Reply-To: lucychili@...1211... To: reception@...1212... Kylie Following up from the phonecall this afternoon: Possible opportunity for Toyo Inks with open source software. A colour matching system such as colourfinder, if open sourced, could be included in this emerging sector of software. http://www.toyoink.com/products/colorfinder.asp Toyo has top quality ink and so this could be a way to get designers using the full gamut of your colour range as they would be specifying using your swatches and colour matching system. Here is the link to the event where open source developers and graphic designers from around the world will be meeting in France: http://www.libregraphicsmeeting.org/ The first Libre Graphics Meeting will be held on 17, 18 and 19 March 2006 in Lyon, France in the Ecole d'Ingénieurs CPE on the university campus at La Doua, Villeurbanne. Here is a copy of the message that I sent to Toyo Japan: Dear Toyo Inks I am a graphic designer who is making the shift from proprietory software to open source software. One of the challenges faced by the developers of open source software is that Pantone colour matching is proprietory and so can not be integrated into open source software. I remembered getting a swatch set of your inks, the colours were lovely and thought I would contact you to see if you would be interested in becoming the open source community's default colour matching group. I know the Free Software Foundation is very active in Japan, and I am sure that in the long run this could provide and exciting opportunity both for open source software such as Gimp and InkScape as well as for Toyo inks as they become the ink colour that people specify in their artwork. Hope this idea is useful. All the best. Janet

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