February 2009 - Inkscape Devel

LGM and development opportunities
by Louis Desjardins 11 Feb '09

11 Feb '09

Hi all, This is an exploratory email for all teams participating at LGM. There are more questions than answers and everything is in discussion at present time. In the end we need the input of each team. Here's the punch! I had a very productive discussion with René Barsalo at the SAT on Monday about next LGM. Summary: For next LGM we could have at least two projects working a full day at SAT: Blender and Hugin. The SAT immersive projection equipment would be available to both teams for direct work, hacking, presentations, etc.. Starting at 11:00 the day would be followed by a LGM "5 to 7" where all the teams would gather for a beer. So far we have thought of Thursday to be that day. So, second day of LGM. We need to know if this would appeal to the development teams of Hugin and Blender. Although I trust this event can only add to the interest of LGM, and also noting that this is in no way competing with Polytechnique's facilities — only a big plus to have the SAT in Montreal and to have LGM in Montreal... I think we need to find out if there are any objection to this proposal. I ask Blender and Hugin people to step in. Guys! Tell us what you think. To all other, please do the same! Speak up! Cheers! Louis LGM 2009 main organiser Montréal GMT -5

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Blur slider inserts feBlend???
by Guillermo Espertino 11 Feb '09

11 Feb '09

bulia byak wrote: > Since recently, adjusting a blur of an object in Fill & Stroke not > only adds Gaussian blur but also a feBlend. Do you have any idea of > who added this and for what reason? I think this is a bug and must be > fixed. Thanks god someone saw this. Yes, it's a bug and in my opinion, is of high importance because it's a regression on something that was working fine. I reported this bug a week ago. https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/325162 As it was discussed before, the blending modes in individual elements is a headache because they need a solid element behind to show correctly (that was the main reason of moving the blend modes to the layers dialog, and it's still quite broken). That feBlend filter in the blur effect should be reverted asap. Imo the blend filters should be removed from everywhere except the filters dialog, since the problem of the background acumulation isn't solved, and lost feBlend filters use to be a pain when they left applied on an object after an undone operation (unexperienced users will have a really hard time trying to see why some objects disappear or look bad over others, until they finally figure out that there's a filter applied and it has to be removed). Gez.

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Blur slider and feBlend
by Ivan Louette 10 Feb '09

10 Feb '09

In fact I find this feature very useful. The only problem is that it isn't at the best place. ----- Message transféré ---- De : Ivan Louette <ivan_louette@...48...> À : bulia byak <buliabyak@...400...> Envoyé le : Mardi, 10 Février 2009, 19h38mn 06s Objet : Re : Re : Re : initial filter scale Yes it's like a bug, but this is also the only simple way at the moment to activate this very useful kind of blend which isn't available by the Filters Editor. Thus before removing it that should be kind to offer another solution. I tried it in association with my filters and assuming you apply it after having grouped your already filtered object it works like a charm ! ________________________________ De : bulia byak <buliabyak@...400...> À : Ivan Louette <ivan_louette@...48...> Envoyé le : Mardi, 10 Février 2009, 19h29mn 11s Objet : Re: Re : Re : initial filter scale On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Ivan Louette <ivan_louette@...48...> wrote: > About "Blend to background image" I do not mean layer blend but object > blend. I send you a file to see what is activated when you blur an object > placed on top of another one now. A Blend primitive to the background image > is automatically added to the Gaussian blur filter. I think that could be a > recent change in the SVN because I noticed it only last week. Thus I think a > checkbox which allows or not Blend to the background image close to the > Opacity slider (sorry, I wrote Transparency instead of Opacity) in the Fill > and Stroke dialog would be better than linking it with blur. Blend is > visually closer to transparency than to blur. Indeed it now inserts blendmode! This looks like a bug, I will raise a hell on the devel list now. -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org ________________________________ Ne pleurez pas si votre Webmail ferme. Récupérez votre historique sur Yahoo! Mail __________________________________________________________________________________________________ Ne pleurez pas si votre Webmail ferme ! Récupérez votre historique sur Yahoo! Mail ! http://fr.docs.yahoo.com/mail/transfert_mails.html

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Tango icons as default set
by Guillermo Espertino 10 Feb '09

10 Feb '09

Krzysztof Kosi?ski wrote: > No, no, no! This only makes some sense on Windows. On Linux we already > have > the GTK icon theme mechanism. We don't need a theme changer like OO.o > (which > is an outstanding example how not to do cross platform desktop > integration). > We need this: > > http://live.gnome.org/ThemableAppSpecificIcons I'm also a linux user myself, so I'd love to se your proposal implemented. The portion of my message you quoted is a little out of context, I was replying to someone who was a Windows user and thought that Tango icons are *linux only*, iirc. I was suggesting an icon theme changer in the UI if a better solution wasn't possible, but your solution is far more elegant and convenient. And honestly, I don't care much about windows :) Regards, Gez.

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] [Inkscape-cvs] SF.net SVN: inkscape:[20521] inkscape/trunk/src
by Ted Gould 10 Feb '09

10 Feb '09

Whoa! This doesn't seem like a good idea. Why are you removing the version number from the menus file? --Ted On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 15:28 +0000, tweenk@...58... wrote: > Revision: 20521 > http://inkscape.svn.sourceforge.net/inkscape/?rev=20521&view=rev > Author: tweenk > Date: 2009-01-14 15:28:20 +0000 (Wed, 14 Jan 2009) > > Log Message: > ----------- > Remove INKSCAPE_VERSION from menus-skeleton.h > > Modified Paths: > -------------- > inkscape/trunk/src/menus-skeleton.h > > Removed Paths: > ------------- > inkscape/trunk/src/inkscape_version.h.mingw > > > This was sent by the SourceForge.net collaborative development platform, the world's largest Open Source development site. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This SF.net email is sponsored by: > SourcForge Community > SourceForge wants to tell your story. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-cvs mailing list > Inkscape-cvs(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-cvs

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Disconnected Arabic letters
by Boutros Saba 09 Feb '09

09 Feb '09

Hello there, I installed the last 0.46 version my Tiger (10.4.11) Mac OS X. When I write Arabic I get disconnected letters - not as Arabic should be. I had an earlier version (I don't remember which one) that worked perfectly on the same OS version. I tried to install all prior version down until 0.43 - and the problem wasn't fixed. Any ideas? Thanks, ssb2o

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eraser tool opinions?
by bulia byak 07 Feb '09

07 Feb '09

Now that the Eraser tool is in SVN for quite some time, what do people think of it? Is it useful? In what mode do you use it, if at all? Disclaimer: as you may remember I was against this tool from the beginning, considering it redundant. Its Delete mode is equivalent to Alt+drag followed by Del in Selector, and its Cut mode is now equivalent to Alt+drag in Calligraphic pen which I just added: * When drawing with Alt, Inkscape subtracts the path you have created from the selected path (with Shift, it adds to the selected path). This allows you to quickly patch or fix problems in a stroke you have drawn without leaving the tool. So, do we really have to spend the prime toolbar space on a tool which does what other tools already do? -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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Re : Filters top-level menu?
by Ivan Louette 07 Feb '09

07 Feb '09

Why not "Filter Manager" ? It doesn't only edit or create filters. It adds and removes them too. ivan ________________________________ De : bulia byak <buliabyak@...400...> À : Inkscape Devel List <inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net> Envoyé le : Jeudi, 5 Février 2009, 0h23mn 37s Objet : [Inkscape-devel] Filters top-level menu? I think filters are sufficiently complex, different from everything else, and have enough support in Inkscape now, so they deserve to be treated more like a top-level entity. In particular, I propose to add a new menu, Filters, before Effects. It would contain: - All the submenus with preset filter that are now in Effects > Filters. Ivan Louette is working on a huge and exciting expansion of that hierarchy, adding lots of powerful new filters. It's obviously too deeply hidden now, it deserves more visibility as one of the most important 0.47 additions. - The "Filter Effects..." dialog command which I propose to rename to "Build Filters" or "Filter Builder" or something like that. The current name is not very descriptive and even a bit misleading due to the word "effects" which refers to too many too different things in Inkscape (once again, let me reiterate my old wish: rename "Effects" menu to "Extensions", that is what they are!). The typical workflow would be to first choose one of the presets, then if needed, go to the Filter Builder to adjust the preset or start a new filter from scratch. - The Remove Filter command. Thoughts? -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM) software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com _______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel __________________________________________________________________________________________________ Ne pleurez pas si votre Webmail ferme ! Récupérez votre historique sur Yahoo! Mail ! http://fr.docs.yahoo.com/mail/transfert_mails.html

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SVGFonts not working
by Felipe Sanches 07 Feb '09

07 Feb '09

hello guys, does anybody has a clue on why SVGFonts code stopped working? JucaBlues ------------- (09:01:51) Juca: SVG Fonts code is broken currently (09:01:58) Juca: and I have no idea why (09:02:18) Juca: at least for me it stopped working sometime ago (1 or 2 weeks maybe) (09:02:26) Juca: does it work for you? (09:02:39) Juca: maybe it is an issue with my cairo version (09:03:16) Alexandre Prokoudine: honestly, I find it difficult to use the current implementation (09:03:30) Alexandre Prokoudine: starting with having no idea in what form to input unicode value (09:03:48) Juca: yeah, I agree (09:03:58) Alexandre Prokoudine: and finishing with no numeric input for kerning value (09:03:59) Juca: currently we input the char itsef (09:04:16) Juca: not the codepoint value (09:05:03) Juca: but does it render anything (even the default missing glyph) in the text preview area? (09:05:10) Alexandre Prokoudine: nope (09:05:15) Juca: it is not rendering in my builb (09:05:16) Alexandre Prokoudine: and it never did for me (09:05:20) Juca: hmmm (09:05:42) Juca: it worked for me during some time and then misteriously stopped working (09:05:57) Juca: it worked while I was activelly developing it (09:06:11) Juca: since SoC until 2 weeks ago at least I think (09:06:36) Alexandre Prokoudine: maybe your cairo has a secret switch that worked only for you :) (09:06:43) Juca: :-P

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SVGFonts oncanvas without pango userfont support?
by Felipe Sanches 06 Feb '09

06 Feb '09

this thread is meant to brainstorm the possibility of implementing SVGFonts rendering on canvas without use of libpango. Since libpango development of the userfonts feature is very slow (currently at 0% done), I would like to ask you to keep in mind the possibility of adding special cases for SVG Fonts in the font family selector and in the text rendering on canvas. I am not asking you (Milosz) to implement it. I just would like to be sure that you are aware of this need and, if possible, I would like to brainstorm a bit about what should we do to better integrate SVGFonts rendering on canvas even without pango support. JucaBlues

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