February 2012 - Inkscape Devel

Mesh gradient status
by Tavmjong Bah 02 Feb '12

02 Feb '12

Hi, I've gotten a number of queries as to when mesh gradients will be available in Inkscape. Some people seem to think that it is a project that is close to being ready... it is not. There is still a lot of work to do and several major issues to be resolved. So I though I would give a status report: At the moment, you can create, edit, save, read in both Coons Patch meshes and tensor meshes (the latter have not been approved by the SVG working group). There are a few nice editing features available: Conical gradients, sampling color from beneath the mesh, toggling between straight edges and curves, etc. However, the code is very buggy. Expect frequent crashes. Save often. Undo does not work for most things. Revert is a poor person's substitute. Before the mesh code can be merged with trunk the following issues MUST be resolved: 1. Meshes have been approved for SVG 2 but the syntax has not been finalized and will not likely be finalized for some time. For meshes to be included in Inkscape we will need to keep them in the Inkscape namespace for the moment and include a fallback mechanism. (Note, there are quite a few nice SVG 2.0 features that we could adopt quickly if we had a way of handling fallbacks: markers that inherit stroke color, solid colors that will eliminate the need for the one-stop gradient hack for creating a palette, etc.). 2. Meshes rely on Cairo trunk. We need an official Cairo release with the mesh rendering code. The last new Cairo release was in Sept of 2010. Who knows when a new release will be made. 3. My code is a hack. There are multiple issues that need to be resolved. The most important one is how do meshes fit into the Private/Vector structure used by linear and radial gradients (Inkscape gradients are broken up into two gradient elements, one that handles the geometric layout and the other that handles the color vector. This allows reuse of the same gradient to be applied to multiple objects. It may not make sense for meshes.) Of course all the crashes must be eliminated. 4. GUI: How should meshes fit into the GUI? Should meshes have their own tool bar? The gradient chooser is not really applicable for meshes and meshes will have lots of their own options: * Mesh creation: * Mesh type: Normal, conical, ? * Number of rows/columns. * Mesh editing: * Show/hide handles. * Make handle smooth/symmetric. 5. Saving to PDF/PostScript needs to be implemented. (Export to PNG works.) I am sure I've missed some. Issues that would be nice to address: 1. Node editing. Gradients implement their own dragger code. It would be nice to be able to use the code from path editing. This would enable things like editing the paths by dragging or selecting a group of nodes and rotate/scale/etc. them together. 2. Auto generating an initial grid based on path shape. 3. Auto fitting. It would be the nice to be able to layout a rough mesh and have Inkscape adjust the mesh to match an underlying drawing. My branch can already set the mesh corner colors by sampling the image underneath which is a real time saver. 4. Auto smoothing of patch boundaries. I have an initial implementation that attempts to make color transitions across patch boundaries smooth. This can certainly be improved. Tav

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Question about tool control bars
by Valerie 02 Feb '12

02 Feb '12

To my understanding, a limitation with tool control bars right now is that they aren't too dynamic. For example, when I draw lines: - I'd like dotted lines and markers to appear in the tool control bar for lines without shapes - But with the "from clipboard" option, I'd like width, repeat style etc. to appear there instead. But without introducing new interface features, the tool control bar is pretty much static right now, so we face all-or-nothing situations. Is it possible to have two layers of tool selection instead? Explanation: Right now: [tool control bar] [t o o l b a r] Proposal: [subtools] | [subtool control bar] [t o o l b a r] I'm asking this because it'd allow for several things: - Consolidate the shapes tools into one button in the toolbar. Instead, sub-shapes appear in the subtools bar. - If more 3D shapes are added, they can similarly be grouped into a single button in the toolbar, while allowing each shape to have its own controls. - When tech-drawing becomes available, they could be accessed from the top-level instead of as LPEs - unshaped line, "from clipboard" line, powerstroke line and maybe other line effects (sketch?) can be treated as separate sub-tools with their own top-level control bars (so you don't need to open the LPE dialogue) - transformation options such as perspective, envelop and envelop deform can become available as sub-tools of the transform tool - composition guides, maybe common on-canvas tiling options (symmetry, radial and normal tiling - anything more advanced must be accessed from a separate panel) become available from top-level - extra mode in text tool for controlling flowing text into shapes? (for graphs and such) Of course, it it's not possible, then that's that. It seemed like a possibility worth asking.

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Inkscape-devel Digest, Vol 69, Issue 3
by Rosa Alonso Garcia 02 Feb '12

02 Feb '12

Good Morning, Thanks Jason and other people of this equipment. In this link I can solve error. http://sourceforge.net/projects/inkscape/files/inkscape/0.46/Inkscape-0.46-… I'm grateful your fast answer. Sincerely Rosa M. Alonso Garcia Il.lustradora gràfica http://rosailustradora.com http://rosailustradora.blogspot.com >________________________________ > De: "inkscape-devel-request(a)lists.sourceforge.net" <inkscape-devel-request(a)lists.sourceforge.net> >Para: inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net >Enviado: Miércoles 1 de febrero de 2012 21:46 >Asunto: Inkscape-devel Digest, Vol 69, Issue 3 > >Send Inkscape-devel mailing list submissions to > inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > inkscape-devel-request(a)lists.sourceforge.net > >You can reach the person managing the list at > inkscape-devel-owner(a)lists.sourceforge.net > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Inkscape-devel digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. error inkscape runs first time! (Rosa Alonso Garcia) > 2. Re: error inkscape runs first time! (Jason Simanek) > 3. Re: error inkscape runs first time! (~suv) > 4. Inkscape tiling interface redesign proposal (Valerie) > 5. Re: Inkscape tiling interface redesign proposal > (Krzysztof Kosi?ski) > 6. Re: Inkscape tiling interface redesign proposal > (Tobias Ellinghaus) > 7. Re: Inkscape 0.48.3? (Krzysztof Kosi?ski) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 11:32:41 +0000 (GMT) >From: Rosa Alonso Garcia <disenografica@...2758...> >Subject: [Inkscape-devel] error inkscape runs first time! >To: "Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net" > <Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net> >Message-ID: > <1328095961.19545.YahooMailNeo@...2769...> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >I need to learn Inkscape, but I download app and add to Applications folder, and previous I have just installed X11, I can''t run program. >>>It opens 10 seconds, and close automatic. >>>I work with MACOS 10.4, Tiger. >>> >>> >>>It's urgent, please a solve! >>>? >>>Sincerely, > >? >Cordialmente, > >Rosa M. Alonso Garcia >Il.lustradora gr?fica >http://rosailustradora.com > >http://rosailustradora.blogspot.com >

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Image uploading on Inkscape Wiki?
by Valerie 02 Feb '12

02 Feb '12

Recently I've been working on a UI redesign proposal for the Tiled Clones interface, and thought of creating a new page on the Inkscape Wiki to see if it's even plausible. However, when I tried to upload images, I get: The upload directory (public) is not writable by the webserver. A quick search only tells me that it's a permissions problem. I've also noticed that there were no new file uploads since July last year. Has there been a policy change? Any suggestions as to where else to upload them then? In case anybody's curious, major suggestions are: - On-canvas guides - Separation into Symmetries, Radial Clones, Rectangular tiles and Triangle tiles (basically dependent on the guide type) - Move from a floating box to a side-bar dialogue, where you can basically stack symmetries and tilings to a selected object (like with LPEs, so it's easy if you want to make a flower-shaped design then have it fill up the page as tiles, for example) - Top-level options are simple and intuitive to address the main use cases (I'm assuming most users just want to do some basic symmetrical or radial patterns...) - But more advanced options are available by clicking "advanced" and opening a separate box (to avoid cluttering the main dialogue. If the user wants jittery tiles distributed in an outward spiral that change colors and become transparent near the end, surely he can open an extra dialogue) - Presets are also available

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Inkscape tiling interface redesign proposal
by daniele rossi 01 Feb '12

01 Feb '12

I do agree that tiling dialog today is a short way to headache... Daniele > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 19:00:07 +0100 > From: Krzysztof Kosi?ski <tweenk.pl@...400...> > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Inkscape tiling interface redesign > proposal > To: Valerie <valerie_vk@...36...> > Cc: Inkscape-devel <inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net> > Message-ID: > <CAFLw2WSOhagh1v-Qkn3cjDEBEG_QCwiNfCECkSDzYN49g3JFUg@...401...> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > 2012/2/1 Valerie <valerie_vk@...36...>: >> Ah well, I have no idea if the wiki image upload issue will be >> fixed, so I just made everything into an image and uploaded >> it somewhere else: >> >> http://postimage.org/image/7f9ms5kw3/ >> >> >> As you can see, central concepts include: >> 1. Transformations separated into groups that people other >> than tile mathematicians understand >> 2. And moved to a dedicated dialogue. Basically: >> ?- One-time filters -> floating boxes >> ?- Properties that may need future editing -> side-dialogues >> By the way, radial transformations to use polar coordinates. > > I was thinking about the tiling thing for some time and I came to a > conclusion that usability-wise the tiling dialog is a cruel joke > (adjusting numbers by trial and error? seriously?).

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inkscape.org in svg
by john Culleton 01 Feb '12

01 Feb '12

I am doing some experimenting with svg pages in lieu of html. Is there a reason why the inkscape.org front page is not done in svg? -- John Culleton Free list of books for self-publishers: http://wexfordpress.net/shortlist.html "Create Book Covers with Scribus" http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html

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error inkscape runs first time!
by Rosa Alonso Garcia 01 Feb '12

01 Feb '12

I need to learn Inkscape, but I download app and add to Applications folder, and previous I have just installed X11, I can''t run program. >>It opens 10 seconds, and close automatic. >>I work with MACOS 10.4, Tiger. >> >> >>It's urgent, please a solve! >>? >>Sincerely, Cordialmente, Rosa M. Alonso Garcia Il.lustradora gràfica http://rosailustradora.com http://rosailustradora.blogspot.com

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Inkscape-devel Digest, Vol 69, Issue 1
by Rosa Alonso Garcia 01 Feb '12

01 Feb '12

Cordialmente, Rosa M. Alonso Garcia Il.lustradora gràfica http://rosailustradora.com http://rosailustradora.blogspot.com >________________________________ > De: "inkscape-devel-request(a)lists.sourceforge.net" <inkscape-devel-request(a)lists.sourceforge.net> >Para: inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net >Enviado: Miércoles 1 de febrero de 2012 12:18 >Asunto: Inkscape-devel Digest, Vol 69, Issue 1 > >Send Inkscape-devel mailing list submissions to > inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > inkscape-devel-request(a)lists.sourceforge.net > >You can reach the person managing the list at > inkscape-devel-owner(a)lists.sourceforge.net > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Inkscape-devel digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Re : Image uploading on Inkscape Wiki? > (Romain de Bossoreille) > 2. Re: Inkscape 0.48.3? (Krzysztof Kosi?ski) > 3. Re: Inkscape 0.48.3? (Josh Andler) > 4. Re: Re : Image uploading on Inkscape Wiki? (Valerie) > 5. Rv: I can run Inkscape-URGENT!- (Rosa Alonso Garcia) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 23:32:40 +0100 >From: Romain de Bossoreille <romain2boss@...48...> >Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Re : Image uploading on Inkscape Wiki? >To: inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net >Message-ID: <4F286C08.5040208@...48...> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >I've made a bug report some time ago: > >https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/905949 > >But no news... > > >*Romain* > >Le 31/01/2012 20:53, Ivan Louette a ?crit : >> I had the same problem two weeks ago when I tried to upload an image >> to my blueprint proposal for Export bitmap UI changes. >> >> ivan >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *De :* Valerie <valerie_vk@...36...> >> *? :* "inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net" >> <inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net> >> *Envoy? le :* Mardi 31 janvier 2012 18h20 >> *Objet :* [Inkscape-devel] Image uploading on Inkscape Wiki? >> >> Recently I've been working on a UI redesign proposal for the >> Tiled Clones interface, and thought of creating a new page >> on the Inkscape Wiki to see if it's even plausible. >> >> However, when I tried to upload images, I get: >> The upload directory (public) is not writable by the webserver. >> >> >> A quick search only tells me that it's a permissions problem. >> I've also noticed that there were no new file uploads since July >> last year. Has there been a policy change? Any suggestions as >> to where else to upload them then? >> >> In case anybody's curious, major suggestions are: >> - On-canvas guides >> - Separation into Symmetries, Radial Clones, Rectangular >> tiles and Triangle tiles (basically dependent on the guide type) >> - Move from a floating box to a side-bar dialogue, where you can >> basically stack symmetries and tilings to a selected object (like >> with LPEs, so it's easy if you want to make a flower-shaped >> design then have it fill up the page as tiles, for example) >> - Top-level options are simple and intuitive to address the main >> use cases (I'm assuming most users just want to do some basic >> symmetrical or radial patterns...) >> - But more advanced options are available by clicking "advanced" >> and opening a separate box (to avoid cluttering the main dialogue. >> If the user wants jittery tiles distributed in an outward spiral that >> change colors and become transparent near the end, surely >> he can open an extra dialogue) >> - Presets are also available >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! >> The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers >> is just $99.99! 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Rv: I can run Inkscape-URGENT!-
by Rosa Alonso Garcia 01 Feb '12

01 Feb '12

>Hi everyone! > > > >I need to learn Inkscape, but I download app and add to Applications folder, and previous I have just installed X11, I can''t run program. >It opens 10 seconds, and close automatic. >I work with MACOS 10.4, Tiger. > > >It's urgent, please a solve! > >Sincerely, > >Rosa M. Alonso Garcia >Il.lustradora gràfica >http://rosailustradora.com > >http://rosailustradora.blogspot.com > > > > >>________________________________ >> De: "inkscape-devel-request(a)lists.sourceforge.net" <inkscape-devel-request(a)lists.sourceforge.net> >>Para: disenografica@...2758... >>Enviado: Miércoles 1 de febrero de 2012 12:10 >>Asunto: confirm e9cee2c32eec12e9453a6e3c41eeaf3926479508 >> >>Mailing list subscription confirmation notice for mailing list >>Inkscape-devel >> >>We have received a request from 172.29.29.1 for subscription of your >>email address, "disenografica@...2758...", to the >>inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net mailing list. To confirm that >>you want to be added to this mailing list, simply reply to this >>message, keeping the Subject: header intact. Or visit this web page: >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/confirm/inkscape-devel/e9cee2c32eec12e9… >> >> >>Or include the following line -- and only the following line -- in a >>message to inkscape-devel-request(a)lists.sourceforge.net: >> >> confirm e9cee2c32eec12e9453a6e3c41eeaf3926479508 >> >>Note that simply sending a `reply' to this message should work from >>most mail readers, since that usually leaves the Subject: line in the >>right form (additional "Re:" text in the Subject: is okay). >> >>If you do not wish to be subscribed to this list, please simply >>disregard this message. If you think you are being maliciously >>subscribed to the list, or have any other questions, send them to >>inkscape-devel-owner@...460... >> >> >> > >

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