October 2016 - Inkscape Devel

Re: [Inkscape-devel] [Inkscape-translator] Which translations should be included in 0.92 release?
by Eduard Braun 18 Oct '16

18 Oct '16

Thanks for your answers! I went ahead and updated the NSIS installer accordingly, so it can install all available Inkscape translations now. @translators: It would probably be a good time to have a quick look at the installer translations (they're separate from the .po files) if you have some time to spare, see http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~inkscape.dev/inkscape/0.92.x/files/head:/packa… for the currently available translations. Regards, Eduard Am 16.10.2016 um 23:52 schrieb Duarte Ramos: > You are right I misinterpreted, I read a full bar and thought the 0% was > pertaining to the bar, never mind that. > > @Victor I think you hold me in higher regard than I deserve. Its just > that I do enjoy working alone, so slowly translating a bit every evening > is, not a burden for me at all, though some times I do prefer to be > gaming or 3D modeling instead so translation lag behind. ;-) > > Anyway that doesn't mean I wouldn't want to team up, cooperation would > certainly help, though as you said, Inkscape would probably benefit from > the two distinct Portuguese variants, and I fear I would also not be > fluent enough to translate into pt_BR. > > Have you tried any Inkscape Brazilian communities? Maybe you can recruit > some help there, I'm sure it will be a lot easier than finding or > recruiting any pt_PT help. > > Hang in there buddy > > > On 16-10-2016 21:49, Sylvain Chiron wrote: >> Le 16/10/2016 à 20:13, Duarte Ramos a écrit : >>> One other offtopic nitpicking: Statistics came through just fine, but >>> why are languages with 0% progress shown with a full green progress bar? >>> Is this a glitch? >>> Those bars seem to be drawn by the system, in this case Windows 7 for >>> me, so maybe people in Linux/Mac will see it differently. It's the same >>> on the website so it's not just an attachment thing. >> Should be your mail reader or browser, but I guess you didn’t read the >> column headers well… >> I don’t see any languages with 0% progress. I only see « am » with 8086 >> untranslated strings, all other ones have more translations — :). >> >> I agree for including incomplete/outdated translations. >> -- >> Sylvain >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >> engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >> _______________________________________________ >> Inkscape-translator mailing list >> Inkscape-translator(a)lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-translator > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-translator mailing list > Inkscape-translator(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-translator

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Inkscape 0.92pre2 (beta) released
by Bryce Harrington 18 Oct '16

18 Oct '16

A new 0.92pre2 source package has been released and can be downloaded from: https://inkscape.org/en/download/source/ I'm calling this the Inkscape 0.92 'beta'. All scheduled features are complete at this point, and bug fixing work is mostly finished (except for a few remaining known issues we're tracking). Packagers are encouraged to prepare binary packages for the platforms we support. Testers are encouraged to install and use this as if it were the release. At this point we're primarily looking for a) packaging errors, b) installation and build breakages, and c) regressions from recent bug fixes. If you find particularly severe/critical issues, feel free to contact me about them. Ordinary bugs should be entered into the release notes as Known Issues, and worked on in trunk for 0.93 or 0.92.1. Users are welcome to use this as well, just make sure to plan on upgrading to the actual release when it arrives; there are still a few more odds and ends we intend to add to the release. I'll follow up later with an update on our release status and some follow-up tasks. Thanks, Bryce

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] [Inkscape-translator] Which translations should be included in 0.92 release?
by Sylvain Chiron 16 Oct '16

16 Oct '16

Le 16/10/2016 à 20:13, Duarte Ramos a écrit : > One other offtopic nitpicking: Statistics came through just fine, but > why are languages with 0% progress shown with a full green progress bar? > Is this a glitch? > Those bars seem to be drawn by the system, in this case Windows 7 for > me, so maybe people in Linux/Mac will see it differently. It's the same > on the website so it's not just an attachment thing. Should be your mail reader or browser, but I guess you didn’t read the column headers well… I don’t see any languages with 0% progress. I only see « am » with 8086 untranslated strings, all other ones have more translations — :). I agree for including incomplete/outdated translations. -- Sylvain

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] [Inkscape-translator] Which translations should be included in 0.92 release?
by Victor Westmann 16 Oct '16

16 Oct '16

Hi there, I lost enthusiasm. I got the pt_BR translation file already in 50% and could raise it to 62% but it cost me 2 or 3 full days. In this journey, being alone, is more or less a burden.. I wish I could team up with Duarte who is a disciplined and diligent translator... but for pt_PT and not pt_BR. hehe. It's tough. I believe that, without help from more pt_BR translators, I will not be able to finish this file on time. :-( I wish I knew pt_PT to team up with Duarte. --Victor Westmann 2016-10-16 11:13 GMT-07:00 Duarte Ramos <duarte.framos@...400...>: > Hey everyone. > > I am currently working on the European Portuguese pt_PT translation for > Inkscape, but given the outdated and messy state of the current translation > I decided to start from scratch. > I started very recently and make slow progress as time allows. I'm > currently under 2% completion, it will never be complete in time for 0.92 > release, not even on par with the existing progress so for pt_PT. > > For that reason I'd say either go with the current one as previous > releases or totally exclude it from 0.92. There always pt_BR as fallback > which seems to be in a better state. > As general rule, I'd say incomplete/outdated translation is better than no > translation at all, so I'd include anything that has any modest progress > and it may even encourage some contributions. What do you Think? > > > One other offtopic nitpicking: Statistics came through just fine, but why > are languages with 0% progress shown with a full green progress bar? Is > this a glitch? > Those bars seem to be drawn by the system, in this case Windows 7 for me, > so maybe people in Linux/Mac will see it differently. It's the same on the > website so it's not just an attachment thing. > > > Best Regards, Duarte > > On 16-10-2016 18:49, Eduard Braun wrote: > > (CCing the "translators" list, since this concerns them, too, but please > keep discussion on "devel") > > Hi all, > > I'm in the progress of updating the Windows installer for 0.92 release and > asked myself which languages should be included in the final package? > Are there some guidelines or do we simply include all of them, even if > they're mostly outdated? How was this handled in the past? > > Since languages seem to be hardcoded in "src/inkscape-preferences.cpp" we > probably can not just drop those languages during packaging. Otherwise the > language would still be offered as a choice, even if it's not present > (which is is also an issue if the user decides not to install translations > during installation). > > FYI current language statistics are attached (I hope it get's through), > otherwise a copy is available from [1]. > > Best Regards, > Eduard > > > [1] https://inkscape.org/de/gallery/item/10140/po_statistics_0.92.x.html > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > > > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-translator mailing listInkscape-translator@...1901...://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-translator > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-translator mailing list > Inkscape-translator(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-translator > >

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Which translations should be included in 0.92 release?
by Eduard Braun 16 Oct '16

16 Oct '16

(CCing the "translators" list, since this concerns them, too, but please keep discussion on "devel") Hi all, I'm in the progress of updating the Windows installer for 0.92 release and asked myself which languages should be included in the final package? Are there some guidelines or do we simply include all of them, even if they're mostly outdated? How was this handled in the past? Since languages seem to be hardcoded in "src/inkscape-preferences.cpp" we probably can not just drop those languages during packaging. Otherwise the language would still be offered as a choice, even if it's not present (which is is also an issue if the user decides not to install translations during installation). FYI current language statistics are attached (I hope it get's through), otherwise a copy is available from [1]. Best Regards, Eduard [1] https://inkscape.org/de/gallery/item/10140/po_statistics_0.92.x.html

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Diff support between revisions of an svg with hieghlighing support.
by Jason (spot) Brower 14 Oct '16

14 Oct '16

I think it would be nice to have a diffing tool inside of Inkscape. The idea is that we find areas that have change between two versions and it would visually hande a box around the idea showing what had changed. Ideally as a lay that can be turned on and off. I know my work would be better if there was a way to show what changed between versions without needing to look at the svg code itself. Do you think this kind of thing could work? BR, Jason Brower

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how about some marketing and outreach?
by Brynn 13 Oct '16

13 Oct '16

Hi Friends, I've recently been contacted by a long time Inkscape user and former active moderator on InkscapeForum.com. (Technically she still is a moderator, but not active for some years.) And I think she also used to help with bug management and testing. And many of you may recognize her as the co-author of PacktPublishing's "Inkscape 0.48 Illustrator's Cookbook". Mihaela, aka prkos, is ready to become reinvested in the project, after having drifted away to work on other things for awhile. She has some good ideas for outreach and bringing in more diversity, and I think some ideas related to marketing, which she will have to explain, because I don't understand that kind of thing. I don't know if she wants to help with bug management again, as before, but maybe after she catches up to the version 0.92 era. And she said she wouldn't be opposed to working on a sequel to the Packt project. Ooohh! Mihaela, I forgot to mention this privately. Recently within the project, there has been some drive to create an open manual, which would be editable by the community. And we also want to make it more of a step by step manual, and more focussed to beginners. And this is as opposed to our current manual, which is copyrighted (can only be edited by the author), presently out of date, and a little more theoretical, and helpful for advanced users. It's a great manual, which has served the project well. But there have been a lot of complaints from beginners about a lack of documentation at their level. So we don't want to get rid of Tav's manual, but just have another manual available. The current state of those discussions is to use a project which was started by a French team (aaii, why can't I remember to save that link?!). It's another FLOSS manual. We're waiting for it to be translated to English. And once it is, we hope to be able to use it as a base to build the new open manual from. Maybe you might like to help with that? Also, some of her ideas will help us with the forum project too! And I'll be letting the committee know about that privately. So, welcome back Mihaela! As you remember the developers' mantra - code first, discuss later - please feel free to jump back in with both feet :-) All best, brynn

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Workspace rotation
by Jabier Arraiza 12 Oct '16

12 Oct '16

Hi! My last work. Still need a bit of work on exports... Maybe I need to add shortcuts to in/decrease 45 degree... https://youtu.be/utFQve7ofJk Enjoy!

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Complaints concerning github issue removal
by Christoffer Holmstedt 11 Oct '16

11 Oct '16

Hi I noticed last week that issues on github were disabled. There are now 2 complaints in a pull request concerning this. https://github.com/inkscape/inkscape/pull/20#issuecomment-251752290 Anyone able to answer them with some explanation? I assume code will eventually move to git/github/gitlab but we are not there yet...but I'm not sure what to answer "waldyrious" and "shakaran" on Github at the moment. Best regards -- Christoffer Holmstedt

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Old databases, drop or migrate?
by Chris Keltz 11 Oct '16

11 Oct '16

Hello Inkscape devs, I'm Chris with the OSU Open Source Lab. We're in the process of taking things off an old database host, and we ran across a couple of Inkscape databases we're not sure are still being used. They are both currently on db3.osuosl.org. The first is inkscape_qmail, accessible by inkscape_qmail@...3433... The second is inkscape-mantis, accessible by inkscape-mantis@...3433... Please let me know if these are droppable, or if they need to be migrated to our new host. Thanks, Chris Keltz Student System Administrator OSU Open Source Lab

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