February 2016 - Inkscape Devel

any predictions on when, or if, 'miter-clip join' will be implemented?
by alvinpenner 24 Feb '16

24 Feb '16

I see that the SVG 2 spec contains a new property called miter-clip. https://svgwg.org/svg2-draft/painting.html#LineJoin Just wondering whether Inkscape, or any other renderers, are going to implement this, or have already implemented it? I ran into this by accident when trying to produce an svg representation of some spirograph bitmaps. The original spirographs came from https://sourceforge.net/projects/spirograph/ , I have attached a png screenshot of one here. The corresponding svg file that I produced is attached here as well. The svg file has some serious discrepancies at the line joins, which could possibly be fixed by the miter-clip, I hope, hence the question. 13_YellowCircles.png <http://inkscape.13.x6.nabble.com/file/n4975611/13_YellowCircles.png> 13_YellowCircles.svg <http://inkscape.13.x6.nabble.com/file/n4975611/13_YellowCircles.svg> Cheers, Alvin -- View this message in context: http://inkscape.13.x6.nabble.com/any-predictions-on-when-or-if-miter-clip-j… Sent from the Inkscape - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Fwd: New Donate Link Graphics
by Martin Owens 23 Feb '16

23 Feb '16

Hey GR, OK so I fixed the graphics on the site, this was the difference between the two logos: * The inkscape logo was fatter (so preserve aspect ratio) * The white mark towards the lower middle was missing There was also some unintentional errors, with the black blobs not having a background white line. But Josh has said that the white lines and the grey colour are fine, as it the flat design. This is the closest we have to the required page: https://inkscape.org/en/about/trademark-policy/ Maybe we can add to it at the top with the icon/graphics package and the rules? Best Regards, Martin Owens On Tue, 2016-02-23 at 15:04 -0500, Golden Ribbon wrote: > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Golden Ribbon <water.ribbon@...400...> > Date: Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 3:03 PM > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] New Donate Link Graphics > To: Bryce Harrington <bryce@...961...> > > > Josh Andler > > >To answer your questions regarding branding, no single person is > responsible for the branding, it has been a collective effort over the > years. > > > There really should be a dedicated page on the branding specs. If I > wanted to create something official for inkscape, problems like this > would eventually come-about again. Things to be included are official > hexadecimal colours - e.g. I see a shade of orange in the website and > in other inkscape affairs, has that shade been settled on?. the > Typeface for the "Draw freely" moto. and the official font for the > inkscape name... also things likes the logo as aforementioned, and its > variants (flat design) as well as the guide for icon creation. > > > I would be happy to construct that as well once I can get a link or > even a joint agreement on some aspects as admittedly things have been > settled over time and it maybe difficult to find true documentation of > the original ideas. > > > Regards, > > Phillip Taylor > > > On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 1:36 PM, Bryce Harrington > <bryce@...961...> wrote: > On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 10:27:01AM -0800, Josh Andler wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 10:22 AM, Martin Owens > <doctormo@...400...> wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 2016-02-23 at 09:21 -0800, Josh Andler wrote: > > > > Sorry about top posting but I have a HUGE issue with the > fact that the > > > > Inkscape logo was not used in those images. It resembles > the logo, but > > > > it is NOT our logo. It is not as clean as our logo. It > was immediately > > > > noticeable to me and it is not acceptable to dilute our > branding. > > > > > > Do you want the white back-line removed or can that stay? > > > > > > > The white line surrounding it isn't an issue, but I'd be > curious to see it > > both with and without. > > > > > > > > In the "branding" subfolder under "share", is a > "draw-freely.svg" that > > > > has our old flat logo which is what should be used. This > needs to be > > > > done ASAP so these incorrect ones are not redistributed. > > > > > > They won't be redistributed, the html code feeds into > fastly cache, so > > > unless people save them it's fine. > > > > > > I just tend to be concerned about people saving stuff which > is why I > > brought it up... so, I suppose redistributed was a worse > choice of words > > than available. :) > > Good catch, yes I agree this should be fixed. Do you think > it'll take > more than a day or two to get them fixed up? If it will take > longer, > should we perhaps hide these incorrect ones on the website? > Josh has a > good point that images posted to the internet can sometimes > get copied > around inadvertantly... > > Bryce > > > > > -- > > WebRep > Overall rating > > > > > > > Need Infographics? Check my website > > www.grtuts.com > > > > > > > -- > > WebRep > Overall rating > > > > > > > Need Infographics? Check my website > > www.grtuts.com > > >

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New Donate Link Graphics
by Martin Owens 23 Feb '16

23 Feb '16

Dear all, Thanks to Golden Ribbon (inkscape user and maker of recently good tutorials) he's provided to us some graphics for encouraging more donations through affiliate links. They look really nice too. I've just finished adding them to the English page on the website. If you go to https://inkscape.org/en/support-us/donate/ you will see the new images and the copy-paste html if you want to add a link to your own website to support inkscape. Golden Ribbon is also interested in making t-shirts and other mechanise; we don't yet have anyone (I know of) who is skilled or interested in looking into merchandise, but maybe if we had some nice designs someone would step forwards to add this feature. What are your thoughts? Best Regards, Martin Owens

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] New Donate Link Graphics
by Martin Owens 23 Feb '16

23 Feb '16

Thanks Golden Ribbon, Should we keep the list on google docs spreadsheet? On Tue, 2016-02-23 at 03:47 -0500, Golden Ribbon wrote: > This would be a great way to double up on funding the Inkscape cause > and spreading the Inkscape brand in one swift motion. I also selfishly want some inkscape branded things. A cup of tea and a t-shirt with inkscape's logo on it ;-) Martin,

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Inkscape, Pango, Language Tags and Marshallese
by Jeremy Tan 22 Feb '16

22 Feb '16

Hello all. It is well-known that Inkscape uses Pango for text rendering. What I have found is that it doesn't yet support language tags for locale-specific rendering of glyphs. The context for this is a font I'm now developing that has separate glyphs for the Marshallese language <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshallese_language>. It has five problematic letters – L, M, N, O with cedilla and N with macron; in particular M-cedilla, O-cedilla and N-macron aren't even in Unicode yet and while the other two characters are in, they usually display commas for Latvian, which is considered unacceptable for Marshallese. My font has the proper glyphs. SVG is a kind of XML and so the xml:lang attribute can be used to set the language of a certain piece of text. For example, if you wanted to say that some text is Polish you would put xml:lang="pl" as an attribute of the text (not tspan) object that contains the Polish text. These are ISO 639 two-letter codes that are used here, so for Marshallese the letters mh would be used. To ensure that the proper glyphs are displayed for the language in question, OpenType has the localised forms feature, which substitutes one glyph for another if the text is in a particular language. For my case, my font substitutes the replacements used by the online Marshallese–English dictionary (see here <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshallese_language#Display_issues> for the replacements) with the typographically correct glyphs. So far, so good. But then I concocted an SVG demo with two sets of the replacement characters, one of which had xml:lang="mh" so it would display correctly in Marshallese. It worked fine in my browser, but the language tag was ignored when I opened it in Inkscape (see the attachment). I am not in a hurry over this, but I would appreciate it if someone could add support for the as-yet-unsupported OpenType features to Inkscape. Pango itself is perfectly capable of handling these features, so I'm suspecting it won't be hard. Parcly Taxel, Princess of Science

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How does font size work?
by Tobias Ellinghaus 20 Feb '16

20 Feb '16

Hi, in IRC there was a discussion about the font size setting and I have to admit that I don't understand it. The tooltip says the value is in pt, which (according to the CSS specs) is 1/72th of an inch. Inkscape now uses a DPI of 96 to convert to/from pixels. When I type some text in 72 pt and then select the object the control bar tells me it's size was 6.72 mm, which would be 0.264566929134 inch [0] and that is 25.4 pixel [1], which is what I can see in the XML being stored. The part I don't understand is how that value relates to the initial 72 pt? And is it a coincidence that the final result of 25.4 is the conversion factor inch/mm? Some clarification or links to documentation would be appreciated. Tobias PS: Would it be possible to fix the font size box to show "nice" values and not some rounded numbers? Maybe just storing the pt value typed by the user along the converted px value and showing that? Or doing it the right way and putting the pt verbatim into the SVG as it used to be done? Currently it's really hard to do any serious work that involves text. [0] 6.72 / 25.4 = 0.264566929134 [1] 0.264566929134 * 96 = 25,3984251969 ~ 25.4

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Competition News
by Martin Owens 18 Feb '16

18 Feb '16

Dear Inkscapers, A competition to design a t-shirt has been announced: https://inkscape.org/en/news/2016/02/18/fossasia-and-openclipart-t-shirt-de… I'd like to use this as a test of our media handling network capabilities. If you look after our facebook, twitter, google+ deviantArt accounts, please post the news above and send me a personal email when complete. (some of these accounts are in the shared password file, but I'm interested in people's ability to post news) Website and Mailing Lists have been completed. Best Regards, Martin Owens

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unable to commit to lib2geom, or maybe just confused
by alvinpenner 18 Feb '16

18 Feb '16

I was attempting to correct a minor logic error that was causing LP Bug 1545632 see : https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/1545632/comments/2 - so I did a bzr pull on lib2geom in order to synch. - I got an error message saying the branches had diverged and I could not pull - so I did a 'bzr pull lp:lib2geom --overwrite' - this 'worked' but now the version-info is wrong: C:\Users\Alvin\AppData\Roaming\lib2geom>bzr version-info revision-id: git-v1:8c1148600de95edb26f6d6fd45c849a62ed77b88 date: 2016-02-10 23:24:32 -0800 build-date: 2016-02-18 07:37:01 -0500 revno: 2499 branch-nick: lib2geom According to : https://code.launchpad.net/~lib2geom-hackers/lib2geom/trunk the correct version number is 2483 on Feb 5, not 2499 on Feb 10. - also the committer is git, not sure why So now I am reluctant to proceed any farther because I do not know which version is correct, I will make the appropriate change in Inkscape trunk instead. confused, Alvin -- View this message in context: http://inkscape.13.x6.nabble.com/unable-to-commit-to-lib2geom-or-maybe-just… Sent from the Inkscape - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Web Chat Review
by Martin Owens 18 Feb '16

18 Feb '16

Dear Users and Developers, I've put together an integrated tutorial for the irc chat on inkscape.org and I'd like a few users and support contributors to give it a review: https://inkscape.org/en/*users/chat/ You should see a few things are different now: * You must be logged in to use the chat, previously you could be anonymous. You even must have an email configured, so facebook and twitter logins must update their user profile before chatting. * There is the above guide which add the can_irc permission to a user's account. Confirming they've seen every page (I shorted it to 4 pages). * There's a new IRC bot that offers these new commands: - webbot: whois [username] ; will tell you who a user is and a link to their website profile, in case someone joins the chat asks a question and then leaves without waiting. - webbot: tell [username] [msg] ; will send an alert to the user with a possible response. The default for website message alerts is to email them too. So you can respond to someone who just left. - Get Latest Art ; a bit of fun to return the latest item in the Artwork category on the live site. Returns the link. - If you want further integrations between irc and the website, this is now possible. (maybe good for meetings in the future) I'm hoping these tools will allow users to feel comfortable chatting with us and also provision support contributors with what they need when in chat. The exact text of the above tutorial is up for review here. Please let me know your suggestions by email on list. Thanks everyone! Best Regards, Martin Owens

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updated to rev 14658, problem in the make
by mathog 18 Feb '16

18 Feb '16

Hi, On a Ubuntu box just did: bzr update make it ran through configure (with no obvious problems) and began compiling but failed with: make[3]: *** No rule to make target `2geom/viewbox.cpp', needed by `2geom/viewbox.o'. Stop. The file 2geom/viewbox.o is still there from the last build a month ago. There is no viewbox.cpp in the 2geom directory. Just me? How to unjam this? I think it was at 14619 before the update, and it built with no issues. Thanks, David Mathog mathog@...1176... Manager, Sequence Analysis Facility, Biology Division, Caltech

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