August 2020 - Inkscape Devel - Inkscape Mailman

Re: Regarding SVG Animation (cont.)
by NASA Jeff 21 Aug '20

21 Aug '20

Find a log of all my correspondence on the mailing list regarding animation <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_cam…> Virus-free. www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_cam…> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 at 13:01, NASA Jeff <tallboy258(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Sure, I've almost got the core functionality worked out it just has to be > turned into a road map with slime test cases. I may look at > https://monday.com/ to manage things, unless there is a good open-source > alternative > > > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_cam…> Virus-free. > www.avg.com > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_cam…> > <#m_-2106103548420495181_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 at 06:48, Utkarsh Dwivedi <dwivediutkarsh01(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Cool, that's good to know. So, I suppose it will be some time before we >> start working on the project - which makes sense. So, our current task is >> to find a viable implementable solution. Although I'm somewhat busy for the >> coming month, I'll try to look into it and maybe could invest more time >> after that. >> Still, I found the mailing somewhat scattered and difficult to follow >> what you have discovered so far. Perhaps you have discussed it with them >> through some chat. Anyways, could you take some time and send me a mail or >> a resource or screenshot showing/guiding me what's the current >> plan/problems? Thanks in advance. >> >> >> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai…> Virus-free. >> www.avast.com >> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai…> >> <#m_-2106103548420495181_m_-8715313228638969067_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >> >> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 6:30 PM NASA Jeff <tallboy258(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I'm a technical architect by trade, so I've been doing that bit. A >>> thorough investigation before any development work take place with a full >>> roadmap. >>> >>> >>> <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_cam…> Virus-free. >>> www.avg.com >>> <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_cam…> >>> <#m_-2106103548420495181_m_-8715313228638969067_m_42994926147689251_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >>> >>> On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 at 13:58, NASA Jeff <tallboy258(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> When I spoke to them, they said it would have to be team work, and they >>>> were going to be looking at it. They said SVG DOM was the major part. I've >>>> not written any coder as yet. >>>> >>>> >>>> <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_cam…> Virus-free. >>>> www.avg.com >>>> <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_cam…> >>>> <#m_-2106103548420495181_m_-8715313228638969067_m_42994926147689251_m_-9100674961075444458_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >>>> >>>> On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 at 04:03, Utkarsh Dwivedi < >>>> dwivediutkarsh01(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> This is the first time me emailing you directly to your mail, hope you >>>>> don't mind. >>>>> >>>>> I read your emails and am now trying to go through the mailing list to >>>>> get an idea what's going on. If you could give me a brief high-level >>>>> overview what's the plan that would also be great. >>>>> >>>>> Also, I think creating an informal slack workspace, or communicating >>>>> on some other media would be more productive than exchanging emails. >>>>> >>>>> Regarding your message, "Once that's done I'm sure other guys will >>>>> start to chip in", I am quite sceptical. Although I am really interested in >>>>> this project, I doubt the Inkscape devs would accept this huge of an update >>>>> on face value. The other day, I did actually ask in the rocketchat >>>>> regarding your work and the "official" reply I got was they. very likely,* >>>>> would not* integrate the code into the Inkscape project especially >>>>> since it has not been discussed and finalised by the devs. This should not >>>>> be shocking though, as big open-source names rarely accept important >>>>> changes in their software without extensive review and planning by the core >>>>> developers. >>>>> >>>>> Still, I think the vision of animation creation is revolutionary and >>>>> highly in-demand and your work valuable. That is why I suggest perhaps we >>>>> should discuss working on this project as an Inkscape extension rather than >>>>> an update to the main software. This is because the last thing we would >>>>> want after investing large amounts of time and energy is to let it go >>>>> futile with no way of spreading our work to the people. What are your >>>>> thoughts? >>>>> -- >>>>> With Regards >>>>> Utkarsh Dwivedi >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai…> Virus-free. >>>>> www.avast.com >>>>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai…> >>>>> <#m_-2106103548420495181_m_-8715313228638969067_m_42994926147689251_m_-9100674961075444458_m_-4617403965772355722_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >>>>> >>>> >> >> -- >> With Regards >> Utkarsh Dwivedi >> >

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retirement
by NASA Jeff 20 Aug '20

20 Aug '20

you'll be pleased to hear i'm going into retirement for a good while. so no SVG animation for now unless someone wants to continue where i left off. this is to work on personal projects.

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Chat site down?
by Mihaela 20 Aug '20

20 Aug '20

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one bit in progress and the other bits an attitude about a person or thing.
by NASA Jeff 20 Aug '20

20 Aug '20

That about sums it up. <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_cam…> Virus-free. www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_cam…> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>

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undo redo stack enhancements
by NASA Jeff 19 Aug '20

19 Aug '20

I have another idea for the undo redo stack, effectively being able to roll back, make a change at a point in history then roll forward again. I think this would be most impressive in bitmap editing software such as krita. For instance, setting the stroke parameters, say colour to keep it simple. Drawing a line, doing some other stuff. Then deciding that you want to change the stroke parameters for everything from a point in history. This should be a simple roll back roll forward and performance can be achieved if snapshots are taken. I don't think snapshots are such a requirement for vector graphics and DTP but would be needed for bitmap graphics along with GPU acceleration to make the whole things as smooth as possible. <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_cam…> Virus-free. www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_cam…> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>

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here's the shape recognition plugin i've been working on
by NASA Jeff 19 Aug '20

19 Aug '20

I've done some work on the shape recognition plugin for inkscape... still have a little work to do (i may try a delta to get the best results) [image: shaope recognition.png]

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any ideas
by NASA Jeff 19 Aug '20

19 Aug '20

Any ideas for crating a standalone PDF editor? <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_cam…> Virus-free. www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_cam…> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>

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light weight vs fully fledged
by NASA Jeff 19 Aug '20

19 Aug '20

I think so far as animation and interactivity goes it may be an idea to keep a lightweight version of inkscape and a more fully fledged version. <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_cam…> Virus-free. www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_cam…> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>

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shape recognition
by NASA Jeff 19 Aug '20

19 Aug '20

Here's the original shape recognition plugin. I'll try and get a delta ready so that shape recognition is close to perfection. This is something that could be a handy real-time feature. https://inkscape.org/~qpad/%E2%98%85shape-recognition <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_cam…> Virus-free. www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_cam…> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>

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Question from left field
by Erik Robson 18 Aug '20

18 Aug '20

Hello, all. I'm sorry to spam the whole dev list with this, but I'm not sure how else to handle the situation. I'm not a programmer; I'm an artist (who has done a little bit of C++/C# programming.) My issue is that my workflow is dependent upon an interface that disappeared after mid-2014. So I've been running 0.48.5 since then. The interface is the Pen Tool, Spiro Spline setting. The essential interface is *click* for corner node, *drag* for smooth node. This workflow is extremely intuitive - so much so that it's proven more valuable to me than the numerous improvements made to Inkscape since 2014. With the release of 1.0, I thought I'd investigate making local builds and seeing whether I could modify my local source to behave like 0.48.5 with the Pen Tool. (Thanks to the Wiki instructions, I'm successfully compiling 1.0 locally!) What I've found, of course, is that everything's different. Where 0.48.5 had enum { SP_PEN_CONTEXT_MODE_CLICK, SP_PEN_CONTEXT_MODE_DRAG }; ...1.0 has: void _bsplineSpiro(bool shift); //creates a node in bspline or spiro modes ... void _bsplineSpiroStartAnchor(bool shift); //continues the existing curve with the union node in bspline or spiro modes So the shift modifier (as opposed to still mouseup vs. drag + mouseup) has permeated, and click/drag distinctions are discarded. My question is this: How would someone (particularly a non-programmer) approach re-implementing click/drag in the Pen Tool? Keep in mind, I'm not trying to disrupt the official source or product; I just need to make local builds for my own use. And it's not an emergency - 0.48.5 does everything I require, and if need be I can just stick with that. However, if there's a way to get the old Pen interface with all the 1.0 improvements, I'd like to try. Thanks, Erik Robson

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