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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Photo Printing Kiosks
by Alexandre Prokoudine 21 Jan '08

21 Jan '08

On Jan 21, 2008 12:44 AM, z.pekar wrote: > Hi, > I'm looking for a (Gnome) program that provides functionality of a > photo printing terminal/kiosk (smth. like this: > http://www.richardfrankfurt.co.uk/index.php?productID=24 ). http://www.blackfiveservices.co.uk/photoprint.shtml Alexandre

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Usage of about screen
by khiraly 21 Jan '08

21 Jan '08

What about to use the second entry for the inkscape devel version? So the first entry would be for the official 0.46 version, while the second one would be for the development builds (svn version). What do you think? Khiraly

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release schedule?
by Felipe Sanches 21 Jan '08

21 Jan '08

I have never participated on a freesoftware project, so I dont know exactly how does the release schedule rolls. What comes after pre0 ? How many time does it take until pre1? Is pre0 the same that other projects call rc0 ? When do we have string freeze? How many time do translators have? At which date would you guess that we will have 0.46 released? One of the reasons that makes me ask these questions is the fact that I have been working on the filters more actively recently and I hope I am not messing the release schedule. Juca

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On-canvas editing of clips and masks
by unknown＠example.com 20 Jan '08

20 Jan '08

Hello all, Josh looked at the LPE parameters in the <defs> section and saw similarities with masks and clips. LPE path parameters are on-canvas editable, so why not clips and masks asked Josh. Well... they *are* very similar, and with minimal effort I made the attached patch. =) Bugs everywhere I think (did not test what happens when you delete the clip path when editing for example...), so definitly 0.47 :) Cheers, Johan

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Small enhancement of ellipse tool
by Maximilian Albert 20 Jan '08

20 Jan '08

Hi, I just discovered that the stuff I committed for the 3D box tool also contained a patch for the ellipse tool that had accidentally slipped in. I always found it a bit awkward that it's not possible to create circles/ellipses whose *boundary* (not a corner of the bounding box) passes through the the mouse cursor. Since the Alt-modifier seemed as yet unused in the tool, I added the following functionality. - Alt+drag creates the same ellipse as it normally would, but scaled by a suitable factor so that it passes through the click point and the mouse pointer; - Alt+Shift+drag behaves analogously with regard to Shift+drag (i.e., this creates an ellipse with center at the click point and passing through the mouse pointer); - Alt+Ctrl+drag creates a perfect circle with diameter the segment between click point and mouse pointer; - Alt+Shift+Ctrl+drag behaves the same as Alt+Shift+drag but with radii ratios constrained to integers. So basically pressing Alt just means "make the ellipse pass through the mouse pointer", apart from the exceptional case Alt+Ctrl, which I found very handy. Could you tell me if these shortcuts are intuitive to you or if you would like anything to work differently? Or maybe I missed something and it's already possible to draw these kinds of ellipses easily? If there is no objection, I'll add this to the Release Notes and also add the shortcuts to keys.xml. Thanks, Max

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Inkscape filter effects causing crash
by Brian Vanderburg II 20 Jan '08

20 Jan '08

I'm using XP SP2 Inkscape 20080118 snapshop. When creating a filter effect for an object and connecting the filter to the fill color, activating the effect on the object causes Inkscape to close. I can connect the effect to the source graphic, but not the fill. The problem may also exist in other places of the filter effects. I sent this to both the user and dev lists because the last time I sent something to the dev list it didn't make it and I got a reply of some problem. It should make it to one of them. Brian Vanderburg II

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Problem with real units (mm)
by khiraly 19 Jan '08

19 Jan '08

Hi! Problem 1: I have switched everywhere (in inkscape) to unit mm. I only want to use that unit (and not px), for everything. Now, when I move something on canvas (or just a node) inkscape still write into the svg file the coordinates without unit (so pixel) and it calculates back and forth between pixel and millimeter. This approach has two disadvantages: - almost impossible to hand edit the resulted file or correct some inaccuracies in it. (because I need a calculator when I want to touch the file) - inaccuracies inserted for sure Problem 2: If I specify the unit in svg file, inkscape does not handle it, and misinterprets the file! Two Examples: 1: <path d="M 0,0 L 30mm,0 L 30mm,30mm L 45mm,30mm" id="path7887" /> becomes in inkscape (after modifying something in xml editor (ex: style), or moving a node): <path d="M 0,0 L 30,0 M 30,0 L 30,0 M 60,0 L 45,0" id="path7887" style="fill:none;fill-rule:evenodd;stroke:#000000;stroke-width:1px;stroke-linecap:butt;stroke-linejoin:miter;stroke-opacity:1" /> Second example: <g transform="matrix(1 0 0 -1 0 297mm)">  </g> I want to use it for flipping my coordinate (to carteesian coordinate), so I could more easily hand-edit/correct my drawing. But it does not work (I assume because of the unit specificator) Does anybody know a workaround? Best regards, Khiraly

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Inkscape 0.46pre0
by Ted Gould 19 Jan '08

19 Jan '08

Hello, I've gone and rolled a 0.46pre0 package for everyone's delight. Mostly the goal here is to start the packaging process and give packagers a chance to get angry at the distribution makers (me). This also gives a nice line in the sand for bug reports. 80fc7b7c1fe56976b8a2d33ed952c454 inkscape-0.45+0.46pre0.tar.bz2 ea746cd7b679e7c9790b45393513db2d inkscape-0.45+0.46pre0.tar.bz2.sig b5fe65ed8db1c5b23b82d2cbc5cc0447 inkscape-0.45+0.46pre0.tar.gz 4c6807e0d7c90e9ad78a687ffba57a90 inkscape-0.45+0.46pre0.tar.gz.sig cff5a26997c51079d51731a612ff3d11 inkscape-0.45+0.46pre0.zip 63c8853f3ae5f6dd6861b0502340d005 inkscape-0.45+0.46pre0.zip.sig I went ahead and MD5 summed the GPG signatures. I'm not sure if that makes things more secure, but I do find it funny. https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=93438&package_id=991… Tell me where I messed up! --Ted PS - I'll get SVN all tagged nice tomorrow, I'm tired now.

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Inkscape 0.46 About Screen Contest - Developer choosing time
by Josh Andler 18 Jan '08

18 Jan '08

Hello all! Community voting results for the about screen contest: http://inkscapers.deviantart.com/journal/16414256/ As it goes, the developers are now choosing from the top 3 to decide which one best fits the upcoming release. If you click on the thumbnails of the about screens, on the page you are then taken to, there is a download link on the left to obtain the SVG files. Since I know that would be everyone's first question. ;) I imagine the decision can be made in 3 days so we can then request/discuss/make tweaks shortly thereafter. Cheers, Josh

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Attaching parasite information to an object (or group)
by khiraly 18 Jan '08

18 Jan '08

On sze, 2008-01-16 at 22:03 +0000, john cliff wrote: > if you add an attribute in the inkscape namespace such as > inkscape:whateveryouwant i believe it shouldnt get lost. I have read a bit of svg specification, and I have found what would be standard compliant. An container element (like 'g', the group) can have a <title> and a <desc> element. I have added this to my group, and inkscape preserves it. However, inkscape also adds an additional id to the <desc> which I dont think so is permitted. So when i copy my group, it becomes like this: <g id="g7890"> <desc id="desc9">this is my component</desc> <path id="path7884" d="M 168,215 L 397,215" style="fill:none;fill-rule:evenodd;stroke:#000000;stroke-width:1px;stroke-linecap:butt;stroke-linejoin:miter;stroke-opacity:1" /> <text id="text7886" y="264" x="217" style="font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;fill:#000000;fill-opacity:1;stroke:none;stroke-width:1px;stroke-linecap:butt;stroke-linejoin:miter;stroke-opacity:1;font-family:Bitstream Vera Sans" xml:space="preserve"><tspan y="264" x="217" id="tspan7888" sodipodi:role="line">component's name</tspan></text> </g> If somebody are interested, here is a bit more information about this: http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/struct.html#DescriptionAndTitleElements I tried validate my svg document through validate.w3.org, but there are many errors, so I cant be sure if it is valide or not. The question is: Is it permitted and desirable to attache an id tag into a title or desc element? So which one is preferred?: <desc>this is a description</desc> vs. <desc id="desc9">this is a description</desc> And the latter is still valid svg? Best regards, Khiraly

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Attaching parasite information to an object (or group)
by khiraly 18 Jan '08

18 Jan '08

Hi! Right now im developing a little extension, and I have a problem what I could not get workaround. I hope someone more knowledgeable can me give a hand. Im implementing cross referencing in inkscape (it can be found on many schematics), please take a look at this example: http://khiraly.googlepages.com/crossreference.png The problem is, when a group (or object) is copied, all the ids got a new random string, so it cant be determine the original ids or the original component's type. All the component is similar (from a svg point of view) so it consists lines and texts. So Im looking forward to attach infos to an svg group, which persiste, when the group is copied. Im interesting in any method, like defining a css style, adding a parasite information, or rename the resulting group's id back to its original form plus a random character. Can anybody help me here?

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missing verbs
by Alexandre Prokoudine 18 Jan '08

18 Jan '08

Hi, Every time I start Inkscape from console I see this: $ inkscape Unable to find: FilePrintDirect ** (inkscape:26549): WARNING **: Unknown verb name: FilePrintDirect Unable to find: ToolCalligrphic ** (inkscape:26549): WARNING **: Unknown verb name: ToolCalligrphic Unable to find: ToolCalligrphic ** (inkscape:26549): WARNING **: Unknown verb name: ToolCalligrphic Unable to find: ToolCalligrphic ** (inkscape:26549): WARNING **: Unknown verb name: ToolCalligrphic Unable to find: EditCloneOriginal ** (inkscape:26549): WARNING **: Unknown verb name: EditCloneOriginal Unable to find: EditCloneOriginal ** (inkscape:26549): WARNING **: Unknown verb name: EditCloneOriginal Unable to find: HelpKeys ** (inkscape:26549): WARNING **: Unknown verb name: HelpKeys Is it normal? Alexandre

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remove fedisplacementMap ?
by Felipe Sanches 18 Jan '08

18 Jan '08

feDisplacementMap seems to be so useless if we dont have feImage that I think we could hide it from users while we dont have feImage Juca

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min/max values
by Alexandre Prokoudine 18 Jan '08

18 Jan '08

Hi, One of quite annoying usability issues is that in many cases min/max values are unknown and/or unpredictable. Few examples: - all LPE options - Gaussian blur - 0 to 100,0 of what - pixels? A hint for them could include the missing bit of information, e.g. "... (0 to infinity)." Should we be trying to fix those? Alexandre

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"Ask a Question" on help menu
by Felipe Sanches 18 Jan '08

18 Jan '08

I suggest that we add an entry on the help menu that links the user to the "ask a question" page at launchpad Juca

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disable some filters
by Felipe Sanches 18 Jan '08

18 Jan '08

we need to find out a way to hide some filters from the ui because they are not implemented yet. These filters are feFlood, feTile, feImage and feComponentTransfer feImage is only partially implemented. I wrote the patch that is attached to this email. It seems to work, but it crashed once when I tried to add a primitive to an opened SVG that contained one of these four filter primitives. Maybe we should instead let these 4 primitives listed on the combobox but display a message saying that they are part of the SVG specs but not implemented yet. Juca

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Impossible to correctly scale LPE stitch subcurves?
by unknown＠example.com 17 Jan '08

17 Jan '08

Hello all, I am trying to fix transformation behavior for LPE (translation, scaling, rotation). I think I found a fundamental problem. Take Stitch Subcurves. Let's say we are stitching between a straight horizontal line, and a line in the shape of: _________________ / / / For equidistance stitch spacing, the stitch start points would be: ____o_____________o / / / o o__________o___________o Note that the distance is taken *along* the length of the line, not just the distance in the x-direction as this would not work in general Now, after scaling in the Y direction: ____o_____________o / | | | | | | / / o o__________o___________o

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Fixed size Export Bitmap dialog
by Tavmjong Bah 17 Jan '08

17 Jan '08

Hi, I just noticed that the Export dialog is now fixed in width. This, in my opinion, is a not a good change as one cannot now expand the dialog to show the entire file name path. This means having to click on the file name and use the arrow keys to get to then end to customize the file name, a real pain if doing lots of exporting from one file. Tav

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Dockable dialog bugs
by unknown＠example.com 17 Jan '08

17 Jan '08

> -----Original Message----- > From: Engelen, J.B.C. (Johan) > Sent: woensdag 16 januari 2008 10:00 > To: Gustav Broberg > Cc: inkscape > Subject: RE: [Inkscape-devel] Dockable dialog bugs > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Gustav Broberg [mailto:broberg@...370...] > > Sent: woensdag 16 januari 2008 4:00 > > To: Engelen, J.B.C. (Johan) > > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Dockable dialog bugs > > > > On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 05:17:45PM +0100, > J.B.C.Engelen@...1578... > > wrote: > > > OK, I just came up with a solution for our problems and > > tested it on > > > one of the parameter types. This seems to work very very > nicely and > > > can be generalized to all "registered widgets". I will try > > to do this asap. > > > > That's great news Johan! After your changes I'm not able to > reproduce > > #179982 anymore. Me neither, marked it as fixed. > > Do you think you'll be able to rewrite the remaining widgets and > > completely deprecate the old RegisteredWdg in time for the release? > > > > Just tell me if I should prepare a Plan B, e.g. to make just the > > Document Properties and LPE dialog singleton as you suggested... I rewrote all widgets that LPE uses at this moment. This fixes the LPE dialog. The document properties window seem fixed (with a low prio bug still lingering), but there is a memory leak now until all registeredwidgets have been recoded. It is a very straightforward simple task to fix them, volunteers? (A nice way to get more familiar with the widgets!) Regards, Johan

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Valgrind Inkscape
by Joel Holdsworth 17 Jan '08

17 Jan '08

Hi Again, I just tried running inkscape in linux with valgrind for the first time ever, and it reveals some interesting results (attached). It seems that libgc's malloc function has a bug where the library will operate using uninitialised data. "Conditional jump or move depends on uninitialised value(s)" It might be quite cool to have a bit of a proper play with valgrind. It seems really quite hi-tech, and I'm hopeful it will be able to reveal quite a few memory related bugs. Joel

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Function plotter and notebooks
by Ted Gould 16 Jan '08

16 Jan '08

Attached I have a Function plotter INX file without the notebooks. The dialog is ugly, very ugly. But can someone check to see if it works on Win32 without the notebooks? Thanks, Ted

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cannot compile r17091
by bulia byak 16 Jan '08

16 Jan '08

configure.ac:12: option `tar-pax' not recognized what do I have to upgrade? -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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strange behaviour on feTile
by Felipe Sanches 16 Jan '08

16 Jan '08

Today I have tried to implement the feTile filter primitive renderer. What surprises me is that the renderer class does not seem to be even instantiated when I try to render the filters-tile-01-b.svg test from the W3C SVG 1.1 test suite. ( http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/W3C_SVG/htmlInkscapeHarness/full-filters-t… ) in this SVG test, the filter effect is applied to an empty <g> node. There is a comment about it:  <g filter="url(#feTileFilter)"/> I think that this is causing the problem: a void node would not invoke the renderer requiring an area to be rendered. Anyone can give me some hint? my current feTile implementation is attached to this message Juca

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Add to a blueprint?
by Rob Antonishen 16 Jan '08

16 Jan '08

How can I add comments to this blueprint at launchpad: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/inkscape/+spec/richer-extension-parameters I wanted to add a suggestion for an angle selector widget, like the one proposed for GIMP here: http://gimp-brainstorm.blogspot.com/2007/12/angle-widget-for-motion-blur.ht… -Rob A>

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inkscape gallery
by Alexandre Prokoudine 16 Jan '08

16 Jan '08

Hi, I really have no idea why users love writing their ideas for us to their Talk pages in the wiki, but here goes: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Planctus Alexandre

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Adding patterns to patterns.svg
by Rob Antonishen 16 Jan '08

16 Jan '08

Is there a trick to adding new patterns to the patterns.svg file? I created a new user pattern in an image using the objects to pattern option and saved the file. I then cut out the <pattern></pattern> in a text editor and added it into patterns.svg. It shows up in the pattern drop list, but does not actually work. Here is the pattern I created: <pattern patternUnits="userSpaceOnUse" width="40" height="40" patternTransform="translate(0,0)" id="pattern6158"> <path sodipodi:nodetypes="cccccccccccccccccccc" id="path6099" d="M 20.5,0.5 C 20.5,13.531254 40.5,13.531255 40.5,0.5 M 0.5,0.5 C 0.5,13.531254 20.5,13.531255 20.5,0.5 M 30.5,10.5 C 30.5,17.015628 35.5,20.25 40.5,20.25 M 10.5,10.5 C 10.5,23.531255 30.5,23.531255 30.5,10.5 M 0.5,20.25 C 5.5,20.25 10.5,17.015628 10.5,10.5 M 0.5,20.5 C 0.5,33.531255 20.5,33.531255 20.5,20.5 M 20.5,20.5 C 20.5,33.531255 40.5,33.531255 40.5,20.5 M 30.5,30.40625 C 30.5,36.921878 35.5,40.1875 40.5,40.1875 M 0.5,40.1875 C 5.5,40.1875 10.5,36.921878 10.5,30.40625 M 10.5,30.40625 C 10.5,43.437506 30.5,43.437505 30.5,30.40625" style="opacity:0.9;fill:#ffffff;fill-opacity:1;fill-rule:nonzero;stroke:#000000;stroke-width:1;stroke-linecap:butt;stroke-linejoin:miter;marker:none;marker-start:none;marker-mid:none;marker-end:none;stroke-miterlimit:4;stroke-dasharray:none;stroke-dashoffset:0;stroke-opacity:1;visibility:visible;display:inline;overflow:visible;enable-background:accumulate" /> </pattern> Suggestions (or pointers) on what is wrong with this pattern? In the original file it works file as a pattern. One note is that I edited the width and height to allow the strokes to overlap without gaps, but again, it works well as a pattern in the svg document. -Rob A>

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Creating guidelines from objects
by Diederik en Rezi 16 Jan '08

16 Jan '08

Hi Max, Op Vr, 11 januari, 2008 20:04, schreef Maximilian Albert: > I just committed a change to SVN (rev. #17022) which allows the user to > convert rectangles and 3D boxes to a collection of guidelines that are > aligned along these objects' edges. That's indeed a very cool feature! I could have used that today at work :-) I have not checked it out yet though, but I wonder: are the guides aligned with the nodes or with the bounding box? Or is there a way to specify this? I ask this because there are essentially two ways of working: either aligning objects at their visual boundingbox, or at their geometrical bbox (or nodes or stroke center). This distinction is being used in the preferences for the selector tool, and also when snapping. So we need it here also IMO. Diederik

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Dockable dialog bugs
by unknown＠example.com 16 Jan '08

16 Jan '08

Hello all, Because an (what I thought) important Inkscape-devel 'paradigm' is no longer valid, there are a lot of bugs concerning dockable dialogs: I am talking about having only a single instance of dialogs. Most widgets that I use (the Registered* widgets) are not designed to be managed by others than the creator I think. (like Gtk::Widget is, by using Gtk::manage) It causes for example this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/179982 How are we going to solve this for 0.46? Regards, Johan

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Frost exceptions status?
by Bryce Harrington 16 Jan '08

16 Jan '08

Hi all, I believe all frost exception development work should now be done, but would like to doublecheck. If you're on the following list, please reply with a status update: 1. Angled guidelines, by J.B.C.Engelen (DONE): Underlying code is complete, and guidelines are rendering, but it needs a UI to allow manipulating them. 2. Python module packaging (lxml, numpy) for OSX, by jiho (ETA ___): Needs wider testing. Needs someone to build PPC packages. 3. Compilation of lib2geom on OS X 10.3 (Panther), by John Faith (ETA ___): An error is preventing builds for Panther versions of Inkscape. If this can't be resolved before release, the alternative is to drop support for this OS version. 4. Font Spec Implementation, by Gail Carmichael (ETA Dec 27). Refactor patch to include some code review changes by Bulia. Also, the patch needs wider testing. 5. Win32 Uninstaller improvement, by Adib (ETA Jan 3). Fix current installer to not bug user for each changed file. 6. PDF, PS export improvements, by Adib (ETA Jan 3). Implement blur as bitmap, and display a dialog with options for text-to-path, blur-as-bitmap, alpha-as-bitmap. UPDATE: Option dialog for PDF/PS exports using cairo are implemented (PDF1.4 and PS3 only). Text-to-path works, for blur as bitmap need help with converting SPItem from vector to image, alpha as bitmap being done implicitly by Cairo 7. Clone Tiling dialog, by Tavmjong Bah (DONE): Add a few options to Shift, Scaling, and Rotation tabs. (TBD: Bug updating blur via Blur/Opacity tab.) (Also, TBD later: some small changes for default values for turbulence and composite filters.) I'd love to hear that all this work is either done, or being safely postponed for the release. If not, let me know, because we need to close all such work ASAP. Bryce

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Coding review requested
by unknown＠example.com 15 Jan '08

15 Jan '08

Hi all, Today I restructured/recoded some of the 'registered' widget classes. I'd like someone with C++ knowledge to review svnrev. 17065 and perhaps also svnrev. 17069. I understand it might be difficult because knowledge of how Inkscape uses those widgets is required, but still thanks a lot for just the slightest of critical comment. Thanks, Johan

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today's compile error
by bulia byak 15 Jan '08

15 Jan '08

In file included from ui/dialog/dialog-manager.cpp:31: ./ui/dialog/livepatheffect-editor.h:21:27: error: gtkmm/tooltip.h: No such file or directory ./2geom/path.h:74: warning: 'virtual Geom::Curve* Geom::Curve::reverse() const' was hidden ./2geom/path.h:319: warning: by 'Geom::Curve* Geom::SVGEllipticalArc::reverse(double, double) const' make[2]: *** [ui/dialog/dialog-manager.o] Error 1 please fix :) gcc 4.0.3 -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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Contributing to your project
by Timothy Yau 15 Jan '08

15 Jan '08

Hello, I'm a 3rd year computing science student and I would like to help out with your project because I think it's really cool, and your 'project of the month' page seems to suggest that newcomers are welcome. I've never worked on an open source project before; could someone please tell me how I can get started? Maybe I could try to do some small bug fixes. Thanks. Timothy

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Printing on XP
by Diederik van Lierop 15 Jan '08

15 Jan '08

Hi all, So far I haven't been able to print anything useful on Windows XP using recent Inkscape versions. My prints (both at work and at home) are 8.3x to small (=600/72 dpi) and have often large black fills or fully black pages. See for example https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/166561. Is anyone else experiencing this? I think this is pretty serious and should be milestoned, unless ofcourse I'm the only one experiencing this. This appears to be a Windows-only issue, but I'm coding on Linux so I'm not of much help here. Could someone confirm this and maybe even give Kees a hand? Diederik

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Function Plotter Effect
by Aaron Spike 15 Jan '08

15 Jan '08

Tavmjong Bah wrote: > Could you take a look at the Function Plotter effect? It has got lots > of problems which I can't figure out (it was working at the beginning of > 0.46 development). It seems to me that all the parameters on the Range > and Sampling tab are not working. It appears to be a problem the command line parsing. The command line passed to the script looks sorta like like (from ' '.join(sys.argv)): share\extensions\funcplot.py C:\DOCUME~1\NS\LOCALS~1\Temp\ink_ext_XXXXXX.svgVNX14T --id=rect2363 --tab="sampling" --xstart=-50 --xend=20 --times2pi=true --ybottom=-11.600000381469727 --ytop=24.600000381469727 --samples=180 --isoscale=false --polar=false --funcplotuse= --pythonfunctions= --fofx=sin(-x) --fponum=true --fpofx=x --remove=true --drawaxis=false But Python parses it as: ['share\\extensions\\funcplot.py', 'C:\\DOCUME~1\\NS\\LOCALS~1\\Temp\\ink_ext_XXXXXX.svgVNX14T', '--id=rect2363', '--tab="sampling" --xstart=-50 --xend=20 --times2pi=true --ybottom=-11.600000381469727 --ytop=24.600000381469727 --samples=180 --isoscale=false --polar=false --funcplotuse= --pythonfunctions=', '--fofx=sin(-x)', '--fponum=true', '--fpofx=x', '--remove=true', '--drawaxis=false'] And then optparse gets: {'polar': False, 'ytop': 1.0, 'funcplotuse': '', 'drawaxis': False, 'fpofx': 'x', 'ybottom': -1.0, 'ids': ['rect2363'], 'remove': True, 'fofx': 'sin(-x)', 'pythonfunctions': '', 'isoscale': True, 'fponum': True, 'tab': '"sampling" --xstart=-50 --xend=20 --times2pi=true --ybottom=-11.600000381469727 --ytop=24.600000381469727 --samples=180 --isoscale=false --polar=false --funcplotuse= --pythonfunctions=', 'xstart': 0.0, 'xend': 1.0, 'times2pi': True, 'samples': 8} But I think we need to put debug prints in Inkscape to see what the actual command line is that inkscape generates because when I give the same command line options to a simple python script like: import sys print sys.argv I get a properly parsed command line: C:\Documents and Settings\NS\Desktop>cmd_parsing_test.py C:\DOCUME~1\NS\LOCALS~1\Temp\ink_ext_XXXXXX.svgVNX14T --id=rect2363 --tab="sampling" --xstart=-50 --xend=20 --times2pi=true --ybottom=-11.600000381469727 --ytop=24.600000381469727 --samples=180 --isoscale=false --polar=false --funcplotuse= --pythonfunctions= --fofx=sin(-x) --fponum=true --fpofx=x --remove=true --drawaxis=false ['C:\\Documents and Settings\\NS\\Desktop\\cmd_parsing_test.py', 'C:\\DOCUME~1\\NS\\LOCALS~1\\Temp\\ink_ext_XXXXXX.svgVNX14T', '--id=rect2363 ', '--tab=sampling', '--xstart=-50', '--xend=20', '--times2pi=true', '--ybottom=-11.600000381469727', '--ytop=24.600000381469727', '--samples =180', '--isoscale=false', '--polar=false', '--funcplotuse=', '--pythonfunctions=', '--fofx=sin(-x)', '--fponum=true', '--fpofx=x', '--remove =true', '--drawaxis=false'] There must be some stray quotes somewhere. I also wonder why the temporary file is no longer the final argument to the script. I think this could screw up scripts with more primitive option parsing. It looks like the revision that I compiled here includes the .svg extension on the temp files. I never noticed that change. And lastly, can anyone tell me why "sampling" is quoted when it is passed to the script? I thought we had done something to address that. Aaron Spike

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Function Plotter
by unknown＠example.com 15 Jan '08

15 Jan '08

Not sure if this is relevant, but the Function Plotter uses a tabbed display, a "notebook" parameter, which could be causing a problem. I have yet to see a successful implementation of a "notebook" parameter Just submitted a bug on this about 30 seconds ago, Bug # https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/183030 Alvin Penner ------[ This message was sent using Vaxxine Webmail ]------ www.vaxxine.com - Niagara's Premier Internet Service Provider

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Inkscape 0.46 About Screen Contest - Voting time!
by Josh Andler 14 Jan '08

14 Jan '08

Hello all! The submission period for the contest has concluded. Now it is time for the community voting. To find out more and to cast your votes, please visit the following link: http://inkscapers.deviantart.com/journal/16298574/ We will count votes from the mailing list for people who do not have DA accounts, as we did last time. However, if you have a DA account or wouldn't mind signing up for one, it will make things much easier when it comes to tally time. Good luck everyone! -Josh

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whiteboard continuation
by unknown＠example.com 14 Jan '08

14 Jan '08

Actually whiteboard is not compiled by default, because there is no one to work on it, and then not enough resources to respond to a huge flow of bugreport. After a short discussion on IRC, the idea was, in a first time to know what is the actual state of the whiteboard, to undertand if it usable or if everything has to be throwed or restarted ? : I addeddocumentation on the wiki on how to compile and use it. I started it here : http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/WhiteBoard If someone found freetime to meet on inkscape whiteboard via jabber and list what work and what don't work today. Depending of the effort done by people able to compile it with the --enable-whitboard option activated the project could continue or be throuwed out of the inkscape trunk. I've myself compiled it, was able to connect to jabber server but don't know other one that have whiteboard enable Inkscape. I will not have time until saturday to test it. If someone can test it with me saturday, I will be happy to share funny crappy drawings. ;) Else if two people have time to test it and report the results on this page, that's good too... Regards, Popolon

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Inkscape Thread Safety
by Joel Holdsworth 14 Jan '08

14 Jan '08

Hi All, I'm wondering how easy it would be to make the whole inkscape back-end thread safe, so that for example, SVGs can be parsed and rendered from within worker threads. Does anyone have any idea why it's not thread-safe already? The reason I'm asking is because I've noticed a couple of scenarious such as PNG export, and quickly flicking between complex SVG files in the file dialogs, where the whole application locks up, in some cases for many minutes, with no way to cancel. Right now the renderer is required to run in the UI thread - even if it's a "headless" rendering such as in PNG export. That seems odd to me. Any thoughts on this subject? Maybe I should add it as a blueprint in launchpad. Thanks Joel

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Frost status (nearing end)
by Bryce Harrington 13 Jan '08

13 Jan '08

Hi all, Quick recap of where we're standing today with the release: * Complete frost exception development work. ALMOST MET - PDF/PS Blur as bitmap work is still in progress. Adib is working on this, but needs Simarilius' help. - Two packaging projects are still open (afaik), but they're not blockers for progressing to Freeze * Focus should be on bug fixes, packaging, documentation, and translation work, all of which may be committed to SVN normally. MET - The number of milestoned critical bugs has been reduced to 5, which puts us in a good position for Freeze. - Translation is making good progress, even though we've not hit string freeze yet. - I don't have a good view on how our documentation is at present. I assume it's in an acceptable state. * Gain some candidate submissions for the About Screen contest. MET - Voting concluded today on a number of quite good entries. - This should be wrapping up * Release Notes should be >90% filled in. MET - JonCruz, rejon, and gustav have some sections to fill in - Overview needs fleshed out a bit more * Bug Hunt ALMOST MET - Good progress here; we're nearing our point goal. If each of us can adopt and close one bug, we should be done soon. * Post inkscape-0.46-alpha0.tar.gz NOT MET - Ted has volunteered to package it up and post it soonish.

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Keyboard shortcuts in tooltips?
by Maximilian Albert 13 Jan '08

13 Jan '08

Hi, some time ago there was a discussion about adding keyboard shortcuts to the tooltips in the various toolbars (although I can't find the corresponding posts right now). I have done this in my local repository but wanted to ask before committing it to SVN because - I'm not sure if this causes too much overhead for translators - maybe I'm overlooking something about user-specific personal adaptions to shortcuts or localized versions, etc., that makes shortcuts in the tooltips useless for some reason. Just wanted to make sure that this is really desired. Max P.S.: I seem to remember that the consensus was also to display the mnemonic shortcuts in the toolbox (rather than 'F1', 'F2', etc.). I wasn't able to find the location where these are set, though. If this change is agreed upon, too, could someone point me to the corresponding file? Thanks.

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Win32 snapshots
by Bill Baxter 13 Jan '08

13 Jan '08

What's the canonical location for inkscape win32 snapshots? There seem to be several places to get them from and they aren't quite the same. This snapshot: inkscape-0801090900.7z from here: http://inkscape.modevia.com/win32-snap/ Will output pdf via Cairo, but text is flipped. (As I reported earlier.) However this snapshot: Inkscape0801091456.7z >From here: http://inkscape.modevia.com/win32/ Just crashes when you try to output pdf via Cairo. --bb

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help needed: my patch does not link properly
by the Adib 13 Jan '08

13 Jan '08

hello all, I prepared a patch that should do a blur_as_bitmap. simarilius introduced two new files but it fails on linking. Could please someone check why. The patch is on pastebin: http://pastebin.com/m6b26c006 I already did: ./autogen.sh && ./configure && make clean && make but no luck thx for any coments Adib.

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make dist fails
by theAdib 13 Jan '08

13 Jan '08

running make dists on current svn fails. This is because of to long filenames in /packaging/macosx/Resources/themes/Clearlooks-Quicksilver-OSX/gtk-2.0/Scrollbars_1 and other files in that directory. The maximum allowed number of characters for the full path is 99. Any solution? Should we use other technology instead of tar? (7zip or zip)? HTH, Adib. ---

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Inkscape Answers site
by Bryce Harrington 13 Jan '08

13 Jan '08

Hi all, I suspect a lot of people already know about this hidden corner of Launchpad, but for those that don't, we have an Answers site: http://answers.launchpad.net/inkscape/ Essentially, it's a tech support forum, for users to ask questions about using Inkscape. If it turns out their question is really a bug, they can be directed to file one "next door", (or you can do it for them, and then link the bug to the question.) It's nice in that it's more structured than a plain forum - you can mark questions as "Answered", "Solved", "Needs Info", etc. Also, answering questions of users also adds to your Launchpad karma score, especially if your answer results in "solving" the user's issue. Even though we've not advertised it much, I notice it's getting a good bit of use, with a couple dozen questions asked, well over half solved, and all but 3 answered. The answers people are giving are well considered and thorough. I get the sense that users are finding it a reliable way to get their questions addressed, and I bet it will serve as a good reference for users going forward. So, if you're ever bored looking at bugs, click on over to Answers and see if there's a question or two you think you can answer. Bryce

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An easy way to hide things?
by Bill Baxter 12 Jan '08

12 Jan '08

How about putting "Hide" (and "Lock") entries on the right-click context menu? Seems like it's a little bit of a pain to hide (and lock) things right now. Unless there's some secret key stroke that the manual doesn't mention. It's also odd to me that there's an "Unhide all" and "Unlock all" on the main Object menu, but no hide or lock options. --bb

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Selecting objects in tweak context
by Maximilian Albert 12 Jan '08

12 Jan '08

Hi, in tweak context it is not possible to select objects by simply clicking on them. When looking into this I realized that this seems to be intentional since clicking on something does perform a light change (at least, that's what the code and the additional entry in the undo history suggest). However, in my (very decent, admittedly) applications of the tweak tool I have never seen a case where this small change was actually visible. And imho not being able to click-select something is such a major deviation from the usual/expected behaviour that it should be considered enabling this in the tweak tool, too - at the expense of losing the hardly useful "do a light change" option (which can otherwise be achieved by reducing the force parameter). What do people think? Max

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Inkscape lag/low frame rate on OS X.5
by carl olsen 12 Jan '08

12 Jan '08

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Gridline coloring
by unknown＠example.com 11 Jan '08

11 Jan '08

Hi all, Please have a look at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/167422 "When zoomed out enough to hide minor grid lines, major grid lines get drawn with the minor grid line color." My comment: "I regret this was "fixed". Now you have major lines visible when there are no minors visible; now the grid is way too visible for my linkings when zoomed out. I feel there should only be highlighted lines when there is actually something to be highlighted. When zoomed out, you see all lines highlighted. So I either would like to have A. the old behaviour back: (only use major highlighting when minors are visible, otherwise use minor color for all lines). or B. have major/minor all the time. E.g. with a highlighted 'major' line for all zooms." Option B is not handy always and should be something can can be turned off. Option A might also be put under a checkbox (what will be the default?) Regards, Johan

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icons again :)
by Alexandre Prokoudine 11 Jan '08

11 Jan '08

Hi, Do we have a final decision on this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/169791/comments/12 Alexandre

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creating new layer
by Alexandre Prokoudine 11 Jan '08

11 Jan '08

Hi, What do you think about assigning a shorcut to "Layer - New Layer..."? Ctrl+Shift+N maybe? Also, is there any particular reason for not enabling dynamic shortcuts creation? Alexandre

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Bugs milestoned for 0.46
by Glimmer Labs 11 Jan '08

11 Jan '08

I wanted to let you know that I'm leaving town for a week this Saturday, and I will probably not have internet access. If there is anything you would like me to do concerning the patch before then, let me know. I don't know what the deadlines are for 0.46, but I have plenty of time tomorrow to work on the patch if you need help with something, and I will also have a good amount of time to work on it when I get back a week from Saturday. Here is the patch again: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/169967 Thanks for everything. I'm really excited to see our patch in 0.46. David On Jan 8, 2008 3:59 AM, Glimmer Labs <glimmer07@...400...> wrote: > I've created a patch for the Inkscape Scheme Console and added it to > the patch tracker: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/169967 > > Let me know if there are any problems. > > Thanks a lot, > > David > > On Jan 6, 2008 6:30 PM, Ted Gould <ted@...11...> wrote: > > > On Sun, 2008-01-06 at 13:42 -0800, Bryce Harrington wrote: > > > 169967 Scheme Scripting Console > > > > I milestoned this one for 0.46, but I'm worried I won't have enough time > > to get it done... is there someone else who'd be interested in > > reviewing this patch and putting it in. I think without the document > > locking there is not contention on the implementation, I was thinking > > that we could leave that out for now (it'd be slower) and it would still > > be a useful patch. > > > > --Ted > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Inkscape-devel mailing list > > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel > > > > >

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tb_s and tb_e in toolbox.cpp
by jiho 11 Jan '08

11 Jan '08

Hi all, We've just received a patch by Adam Strzelecki that improves Inkscape on OSX, and will probably enable us to make a native experimental build for 0.46. Part of the patch is not directly OS X related and suggests to remove some stuff from toolbox.cpp. In Adam's words: * src/widgets/toolbox.cpp: removes tb_s, tb_e spacers from the toolbars to they DON'T have ugly underlines (who did invent this anyway, this produces ugly look in most GTK themes where toolbars are 2x inset in the GUI, I believe this should be removed anyway in all builds (platforms)) and the part of the patch is: Index: src/widgets/toolbox.cpp =================================================================== --- src/widgets/toolbox.cpp (revision 16998) +++ src/widgets/toolbox.cpp (working copy) @@ -630,14 +630,9 @@ { GtkWidget *tb = gtk_vbox_new(FALSE, 0); - GtkWidget *tb_s = gtk_vbox_new(FALSE, 0); - GtkWidget *tb_e = gtk_vbox_new(FALSE, 0); gtk_box_set_spacing(GTK_BOX(tb), AUX_SPACING); - gtk_box_pack_start(GTK_BOX(tb), GTK_WIDGET(tb_s), FALSE, FALSE, 0); - gtk_box_pack_end(GTK_BOX(tb), GTK_WIDGET(tb_e), FALSE, FALSE, 0); g_object_set_data(G_OBJECT(tb), "desktop", NULL); - g_object_set_data(G_OBJECT(tb), "top_spacer", tb_s); gtk_widget_set_sensitive(tb, FALSE); @@ -667,11 +662,7 @@ { GtkWidget *tb = gtk_vbox_new(FALSE, 0); - GtkWidget *tb_s = gtk_vbox_new(FALSE, 0); - GtkWidget *tb_e = gtk_vbox_new(FALSE, 0); gtk_box_set_spacing(GTK_BOX(tb), AUX_SPACING); - gtk_box_pack_start(GTK_BOX(tb), GTK_WIDGET(tb_s), FALSE, FALSE, 0); - gtk_box_pack_end(GTK_BOX(tb), GTK_WIDGET(tb_e), FALSE, FALSE, 0); g_object_set_data(G_OBJECT(tb), "desktop", NULL); gtk_widget_set_sensitive(tb, FALSE); @@ -1439,10 +1430,6 @@ } gtk_widget_show(toolbox); - // need to show the spacer, or the padding will be off - GtkWidget *spacer = GTK_WIDGET(g_object_get_data(G_OBJECT(toolbox), "top_spacer")); - gtk_widget_show(spacer); - gtk_widget_show_all(shown_toolbox); } I have no clue about this. Is it safe? Should it be removed or not? Should it do it now or wait after the release? JiHO --- http://jo.irisson.free.fr/

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Bug Report and new Extension
by Rob Antonishen 11 Jan '08

11 Jan '08

Hi- I finally signed up on Launchpad, so I hope I did this correctly... I had written an extension to re-stack selected items (left to right, top to bottom, or vice versa) using a specified base point on each object. I posted about this on the inkscape users list. Recently I converted it to work with lxml.etree (Thanks Ted, Aaron, and Radek). It was really slow however, as it would call new instances of inkscape to get the location of the objects. Kurt pointed out this bug report/patch https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/174701 that provides a --querry-all command lie option, so I converted it. It now works, and it quite fast. In doing this, I found a bug in the live preview and optiongroups which I reported as a new bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/181799 I have attached the extension to that bug report, as I could find no other extension using the optionsgroup parameter type (other than the developer example that doesn't effect the drawing). My questions are: 1) Is it worth getting my extension added to the distribution? (This thread has an example of what it does http://inkscape-forum.andreas-s.net/topic/133367#594472 but using the old code) 2) If so, can someone check my python? I have never used python before this and it was a significant effort in trial and error (I am not sure if the csv to list conversion is really necessary, but couldn't get it to work otherwise) 3) Also if so, should I "submit it" as another bug report in launchpad (or is there a different way to offer up an extension to the project)? Thanks, -Rob A>

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Selection rubberband missing in some tools?
by Maximilian Albert 11 Jan '08

11 Jan '08

Hi all, is there a reason why the current selection is not indicated by a rubberband in (at least) Tweak and Calligraphy context? I keep stumbling across this issue when I want to tweak an object but the Tweak tool refuses to work - until I select the object in question (which I can't verify, though, since the selection is not visible). Thanks, Max

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a silent screenshots call :)
by Alexandre Prokoudine 11 Jan '08

11 Jan '08

Hi, We have a bunch of cool screenshots for 0.46 already, but we could have just two more: - demo of SVG filters in use (ScislaC?) - a Mac screenshot to demo a better integration (Jiho?) What do you think? Alexandre

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Python Extension Changes to getElementsByTagName?
by Rob Antonishen 10 Jan '08

10 Jan '08

Hi- I couldn't find this in the bugtracker, so signed up to ask here Hope this is appropriate... has there been a change to the SVG handling in recent devel nightlies (win 32 binary versions)? Several extensions I had written no longer work. I also discuvered the Hello World example from the wiki shares the same error. http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/PythonEffectTutorial The error is: Traceback (most recent call last): File "share\extensions\hello_world.py", line 57, in <module> effect.affect() File "C:\PF\Inkscape\share\extensions\inkex.py", line 154, in affect self.effect() File "share\extensions\hello_world.py", line 29, in effect svg = self.document.getElementsByTagName('svg')[0] AttributeError: 'etree._ElementTree' object has no attribute 'getElementsByTagName' Also, is there an option in the .inx file I can set to permanently disable the live preview check option? My extension take a long time to run (>30 seconds) and the live preview becomes a pain. Thanks. -Rob A>

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] grids, guides, snapping UI
by Guillermo Espertino 10 Jan '08

10 Jan '08

I filed a bug related to the "snap guides while dragging" behavior: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/181020 Diederik did a great job fixing its behavior, now it is more controllable and does what it should. The problem is that it's not clearly explained what sould it do. In the same bug report Diederik explained why it's not possible to snap to segments atm, so he had to apply the snapping to the points only. Knowing this, the snapping works perfectly. imo, the only thing that should be changed is the checkbox label: "snap guides to points while dragging". As it is disabled by default, people will have to read the label to turn that feature on, so there's no excuses like "people don't read tooltips". About the other Bulia's proposals... I agree. The snapping options should be unified and simplified to make the easier to understand. The features work great, but the UI is slightly confusing. Regards, Gez.

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News from Ecole Centrale de Lyon
by Steren Giannini 10 Jan '08

10 Jan '08

Hello, We started this week our work on the deformation envelope LPE. After our discussion with Johan, I created pages on the wiki to explain what is planned: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/MakingLivePathEffects#Current_Proje… Please have a look, and don't hesitate to comment. Steren

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WinXP - 0.46dev+devel: Crash on opening files (segmentation fault in msvcrt!_HUGE ())
by Rock Star 10 Jan '08

10 Jan '08

Hi, in nightly builds (for example 24th of December 2007 and previous) Inkscape almost always crashes when I want to open or import some file. I have filled a simillar bug report, but with segmentation fault in wxvault.dll (see https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/177618), but it turned out to be connected to EMBASSY software that ships with some DELL computers... Anyway, after uninstalling the software, the program is still crashing, but this time with the segmentation fault in msvcrt!_HUGE(). On my laptop this happens when I want to open or import some file. I click on button, and the program crashes. I can almost always reproduce this crash on my laptop, but some people said that they can not reproduce it (see the bug report). Any ideas what could be wrong here? Thanks, and just wanted to say that 0.46 will be just amazing :) This is a brilliant software. Rok

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File\Import not File\Open
by Alvin Penner 10 Jan '08

10 Jan '08

My first post to this list, so bear with me. I'm trying to develop an extension to import svg data, a follow-up to Bug #179560. Question: is there any way to specify, inside an .inx file, that it is to be used only on the File|Import dialog and not in the File|Open dialog. My extension, if it works, will be meaningless in a File|Open dialog, because I only want to import one specific path node. Currently the list of available file types in the two different dialog boxes appears to be identical, is this deliberate or accidental? Alvin Penner

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pdf crashes
by bulia byak 09 Jan '08

09 Jan '08

Like others I have been getting intermittent and unpredictable (though quite often) crashes when opening or importing pdf files. I found where it crashes but I have no idea why. So I just commented out one line, which seems to have fixed it for me - likely at the expense of a memory leak. Please test if this fixes the crashes for you. This is the line 711 in src/extension/internal/pdfinput/pdf-input.cpp: //delete pdf_doc; I'm at a loss when it comes to such mysterious crashes - there's definitely no double delete here and nothing obviously fishy. So if anyone can discover the true reason please share it with us. -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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default metadata in prefs?
by bulia byak 09 Jan '08

09 Jan '08

Can someone please explain to me why we need 2 new pages in prefs for default metadata and license? What's wrong with just changing the metadata and license in an empty document and saving it as a template? Saving as a template is not obvious? OK, just make it more obvious. Add a "save template" command for example. This solution is bad because it unnecessarily duplicates some very heavy pieces of UI, clutters the preferences, and generally makes the program look clunkier and less clean. It also utterly confuses the concepts of document preferences and program preferences, which should be kept as separate as possible. -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] pdf crashes
by Guillermo Espertino 09 Jan '08

09 Jan '08

PDF/AI import is working great since Rev. 16995 and I had no more crashes or problems saving the imported file. I can only add that import works much faster too, which is very good. Cheers, Gez.

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gdkmm-2.4 -- where do I find this
by Justin Gedge 09 Jan '08

09 Jan '08

I'm trying to compile inkscape on an older OS [RHEL4]. missing gdkmm. don't know where to find this and google turns up references to gtkmm. Any ideas where to find this? -jmg

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Cairo pdf output flips text
by Bill Baxter 09 Jan '08

09 Jan '08

Is it known that Save As... PDF via Cairo flips text upside down? This is on a Win32 snapshot from a day or two ago. Also why is PDF via Cairo output so slow to render in Acrobat? It renders so slow you'd think it was an ultra hi-res bitmap. But the size of the file, and zoomability, say otherwise. --bb

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2 silent data loss bugs when out of disk space -- milestone?
by Tom Davidson 09 Jan '08

09 Jan '08

Hi all, I'm new to bug triaging, and I came across (and confirmed in today's SVN under Fedora Core 6) a couple silent data loss bugs in the tracker. Both are caused by full disk/partition situations: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/167801 svg file truncated when target partition is full https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/168510 svg files, preferences.xmlsaved as 0 bytes if /tmp is full Wasn't sure whether these should be milestoned, so thought I'd bring them to the list's attention... -Tom

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Does PDF Import actually work?
by Bryce Harrington 09 Jan '08

09 Jan '08

Hi all, I am trying to test out the new PDF capabilities for Inkscape, as they're perhaps one of our most significant new features. Unfortunately, I'm not having luck getting PDF import working: I downloaded form W-4 from irs.gov and attempted File > Import, but got the following error on the console: /tmp/fw4.pdf:1: parser error : Start tag expected, '<' not found %PDF-1.6 ^ It looks like Inkscape's not detecting the file as a PDF, and trying to open it as an SVG. Anyone know what's going on? Bryce

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Some tool icon comments
by Bill Baxter 09 Jan '08

09 Jan '08

3 little design critiques for some aspiring icon designer to maybe consider: * I find the current 3D Box icon oddly jarring because uses a "looking-up-from-below" perspective. All the other tools can be interpreted as either being completely flat or as looking down on something (e.g. pencil, pen -- you're never looking up at your pen). It makes it feel to me like I'm jerking my neck up and down as I scan over the tools. I'm sure there's a comment in a Scott McCloud book somewhere about not jerking around the viewpoint like this. :-) * The gradient icon just read well for me. Being right next to the hierarchy thingy makes it look very much to me like it's some kind of connector gizmo. And having the gradient just be a simple white to green makes it look like it's just a button with cool shading, not a button *about* making cool shading. (The rectangle button has almost identical shading) I think a nonsquare background shape would help (rectangle maybe even) and a three band, or 2-band color->complement (eg orange->blue) gradient in the background would help make it clear that the gradient was the point. Oh and pixel align those handles (like in the pen icon) so they're not all blurry! * There seems to be a little inconsistency in the design of the shape icons. Rect and 3D Box have a little white inner border inside the black outline. Circle and stars do not. Also I think something more interesting could be done to tie their colors together. Different colors is good, but somehow the current cyan, purple, pink, yellow just don't look like a coherent colorscheme to me. They don't seem to form any sort of progression. Also the rectangle shape feels significantly bigger than the others. Perhaps making it a few pixels smaller and slightly more rectangular would be nice. I love the pencil / pen / calligraphy / bucket icons. Those have a very unified look and communicate their functions very well. --bb

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Truetype Collection fonts
by Donn 08 Jan '08

08 Jan '08

> Uses fc-cache to refresh your font cache after installation and verify > that ~/.font is managed. Thanks for the reply. I actually solved this last week and can't recall what I was doing wrong. It was something really dumb on my part. > Don't know if .ttc is managed by fontconfig Solved this one too; they seem to work just fine. I managed to get Fonty Python to find and display all the sub faces. \d -- I have a low-traffic blog for basic news: http://otherwiseingle.blogspot.com/

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Press news about Inkscape
by Helge Hielscher 08 Jan '08

08 Jan '08

Hello, Scribus has a page where it lists news reported about it: http://wiki.scribus.net/index.php/Press_news_about_Scribus Is there something similar for inkscape? If not, would you think that it makes sense to create a wiki page "News about Inkscape"? Regards, Helge Hielscher

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help needed: convert a SPItem into its gdk_pixbuf
by Adib taraben 07 Jan '08

07 Jan '08

Hello all, in order to show blur as blur in PDF we need to convert the shape into its rendered pixbuf. We need to place a piece of code in src/extension/internal/cairo-renderer.cpp that does this conversion. And then to include as pure image data. I have checked the /helper/png-write.cpp and in src/selection-chemistry.cpp (sp_selection_create_bitmap_copy ()). So far I do not really understand which functions needed in order to get the pixbuf. I need someone that can do the job. Any help? Adib. ---

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Inkscape 0.46 About Screen Contest
by Joshua A. Andler 07 Jan '08

07 Jan '08

Hey all, The Inkscape team and community is proud to announce the About Screen contest for the upcoming release of Inkscape (0.46). The contest begins on December 22, 2007 and the deadline is January 6th, 2008. As with the past few contests we've had, it is being done on DeviantART ( http://www.deviantart.com/ ). You can find out more about it at: http://inkscapers.deviantart.com/journal/16001755/ Additionally, if you have a DeviantART account, please show the news some "love" so we can hopefully get the story promoted to the front page. http://news.deviantart.com/article/39226/ Good Luck! Have fun! Draw Freely. -Josh

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About Inkscape authors list
by Bill Baxter 07 Jan '08

07 Jan '08

Hey there folks, I contributed a patch that was accepted and has an entry in the release notes. Does that make me an author? If not, then no worries -- it was not a huge patch -- but it would fun to see my name in lights. :-) --bb

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New translation stats
by Bryce Harrington 07 Jan '08

07 Jan '08

Hi all, We're still not yet to string freeze, but took a big step forward towards that today. I've updated the translation statistics on the home page. Twelve languages have been translated to >80% (up from 10 last time), although the average translation ratio dropped 1% from 49% to 48%. I notice the Italian translation went from 96% a week ago, to 0% today - luca, do you have an idea what might have happened? Also, for en_CA, it looks like it hasn't been filled in very much, and what is there seems to just be Britishisms (centre, metre, etc.) Could we simply copy the en_GB file to en_CA? It seems if we are going to provide Canandian language bindings, that would give better results than what we have so far. It looks like it hasn't been updated in over a year; maybe it could just be dropped? Bryce

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Call for Freeze Exceptions
by Bryce Harrington 07 Jan '08

07 Jan '08

Hi Adib, thanks for updating the status on this. On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 02:53:06AM +0100, Adib taraben wrote: > Hello Bryce and all, > > I finished the win32 (un)installer work (svn Revision 16898). I prepared > all additional message dialogs for translation. > Now the win32 (un)installer will not delete user defined files. It checks > by md5 checksum for each file if it has been changed and will ask for > deletion. > If the file (uninstall.log) containing the md5 checksums does not exists it > will abort the uninstallation process. > > I will update all Bugs and Release Notes accordingly. > > HTH, > > Adib. > --- > Bryce Harrington schrieb: >> On Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 10:45:27PM +0100, the Adib wrote: >> >>> Hi Bruce, >>> >>> I want to focus on two things: >>> 1. win32 installer >>> - improve the current uninstaller. Currently it bugs you for every single >>> file that has been changed. >>> 2. improve PDF, PS export >>> - implement blur as bitmap >>> - need to display an dialog and asking for several options (text to path, >>> blur as bitmap, alpha as bitmap) >>> >>> Nr. 1) I can do myself. >>> Nr. 2) I need help. >>> I think that two weeks from now (3rd Jan) this will be finished. >>> >>> I would like to see fixed in the next release the issue with the >>> calculation >>> of object sizes containing blur #168349 >>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/168349 . >>> >> >> Hi Adib, >> >> I've got you down with exceptions for both of the above tasks. >> >> The win32 uninstaller is technically packaging work, so is permitted to >> be done without an exception, but you've got one anyway. But it won't >> be a blocker for moving into Freeze if it takes longer than expected. >> >> Like others that have replied, it sort of sounds like the PDF/PS work >> may be a bit more ambitious than there is time for. However I've >> included an exception for you on this anyway. That said, I would >> encourage you to prioritize and organize the work such that there are >> good stopping points in case some of the work needs to be postponed. >> Improving PDF/PS support is very important, however this item has a >> longer time estimate than the other tasks that must be completed before >> Freeze, so is the riskiest item, especially since you think you'll need >> help. If you can prioritize/organize the work to reduce it something >> that can be completed by yourself in a shorter timeframe, that would >> help a lot. >> >> Thanks, >> Bryce

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Bugs milestoned for 0.46
by Bryce Harrington 07 Jan '08

07 Jan '08

Hi all, In the course of triaging, testing, and debugging, we've accumulated a list of bugs that were flagged for the 0.46 milestone. Below is a complete (unfiltered) list. We need to drastically reduce this list soon! (Either by fixing or postponing and living with them.) Please grab a couple and take a look... 167898 Grouping section with connectors attached crashes 168586 Crash related with ungrouping 169103 tooltip for menubar not localized 169791 application icon following the tango style guidelines 173116 Gtk::PixbufError exception not caught in Windows 177783 cairo-ps export creates empty ps files on win32 179452 export to openclipart.org in dev version 179640 Fill with color leads to a crash 168024 pattern + viewBox = no pattern (sometimes) 168614 SVN[070505] Regression:opening svg with svgz extension=crash 168623 export to svgz, missing suffix in exported file 168978 Compile problems with inkscape-svn with libsigc++2.0 168980 Inkscape doesn't build due to issues with the PDF importer 169985 Slicing pluging (for web and whatnot) 174721 Importing svg files brake references to bitmap files 176608 Effects update on parameter change even without "live effects" enabled 178022 python extensions fail on win32 178985 Crash/Assert when SaveAs... "PDF via Cairo" without converting text to paths 179478 3d box tool toolbar doesn't work 167132 effect changes inkscape:output_extension 168934 eps export does not cut out background properly 168957 export to PDF leaves white gaps between rects 169018 Information lost when saving as Plain SVG 169122 PDF import doesn't work when file name has accents (win32) 169623 Canvas color option 169886 Export SVG-metadata when exporting to PDF 169967 Scheme Scripting Console 171092 Autosave 171247 Tutorials Forum 174854 [PATCH] SVN doesn't compile without LCMS 174992 UnboundLocalError with perspective.py 176750 Perspective / Envelope errors on Vista machine 178215 menu icons size in Win32 dev builds is 13X13 179040 Update Ukrainian translation 179830 on-canvas gradient editor breaks adding a node 169127 Incorrect Finnish translation 171382 metadata information doesn't include jurisdiction (CC) 178471 Tooltips missing in the LPEs 170018 Dimensions 177387 XSLT "effects" extensions don't work (not implemented?) 178336 spin boxes increment values on filters UI need tweaking before 0.46 release Bryce

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Native File Dialogs Update
by Joel Holdsworth 07 Jan '08

07 Jan '08

I just thought I'd check in about the native file dialogs. We're getting seriously close now. After the conversation last week, I added an icon (from Tango) to the toolbar to allow the preview to be switched on and off, and I've reworked the preview pane so it now runs on Cairo not the Inkscape internal renderer. I've done quite a lot of work testing the dialog over the past few days including fixing some problems with the interfacing between GTK's UTF-8 and Windows' UTF-16. Really everything works now *except* rendering of SVG files for the preview pane. All I need is to be able to use librsvg. The current version in the bundle relies on the absent bzip2 and so is unusable - can we satisfy that dependancy? If so I can finish the patch, and the native file dialogs will be finished! - probably too late for 0.46 though now. I'm away now until saturday, but should be free all day. So if I can get a working copy of librsvg.dll, I might even be able finish the patch once and for all on saturday! - only 10 months later than originally expected. Happy Days Joel

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Freezing/Thawing Complex Graphics (john cliff)
by Tony Vigil 06 Jan '08

06 Jan '08

> From: "john cliff" <john.cliff@...400...> > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Freezing/Thawing Complex Graphics > The export/reimport is there already do edit> make a bitmap copy. It doesnt > currently do the hide/lock of the vector tho. Please file an RFE if there > isnt one already. Ah ha! I looked in the file menu and I looked in the effects menu, but I didn't look in the edit menu. Seems like a weird place for that command. I'll try to come up with better wording for what I'm thinking of before I file an RFE. Now that I know where bitmap copy is, I'll be using it quite a bit! - Tony

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Freezing/Thawing Complex Graphics
by Tony Vigil 06 Jan '08

06 Jan '08

Using lots of blurred graphics in the same document can bring a computer to it's knees. Similarly, CPU intensive synths in a music sequencing application can do the same thing. In many music sequencers, there is a feature that allows you to freeze a music track by turning the synth's audio into a small WAV file and turning the synth off. Perhaps a similar feature could be introduced in Inkscape. By freezing an object (i.e. a group of blurred objects), it becomes a temporary PNG that is displayed in place of the real object. The real object exists in the document, but it is hidden from view. The temp freeze image can be moved around the canvas, but not edited at all. If you want to edit the object, simply unfreeze the object to delete the temp image and unhide the original object. Currently, you can hide and lock objects. What is missing is a means of exporting an object as PNG, locking and hiding the original object, importing the temporary PNG at the same size and location as the original object, then syncing the location of the original object with the temporary image. At bare minimum, a feature that would export a selected object as PNG and import the new PNG to a newly created layer (named "png copy of xyz_object") - all in one step would be a nice step in the right direction. Then, all I would need to do is hide the original object. If I want to edit the object, I can delete the PNG layer and unhide the original object.

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LPE: bend path Vs. Patter along path
by Michael Grosberg 06 Jan '08

06 Jan '08

(this is a repost due to lack of response to the previous post) Can someone explain to me what the difference between those two are? as far as I can see, both "bend path" and "pattern along path" do exactly the same thing! I'm adding a link to an SVG file that shows this: http://grosberg.michael.googlepages.com/path_effect.svg the only difference is that in one you copy-paste the control path onto a shape, and in the other you copy-paste the shape to be bent onto the path. But no matter which effect you use, if you use the same shapes you'll get the same result. The ONLY difference is in the procedure. So why do we have two ways of accomplishing the same thing? wouldn't it be simpler to just have a single effect? or am I missing some subtle difference?

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Inkscape 0.46~svn Ubuntu .deb snapshot
by Bryce Harrington 06 Jan '08

06 Jan '08

HI all, For those on Ubuntu who would like to install and test the latest development snapshot of Inkscape, I've rolled .debs for Gutsy: http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/Testing/inkscape-Gutsy/ and for Hardy: http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/Testing/inkscape-Hardy/ Bryce

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ReleaseNotes updates needed
by Bryce Harrington 06 Jan '08

06 Jan '08

The release notes look in pretty good shape. Please, everyone who has contributed a feature to Inkscape, doublecheck that it has an appropriate write up about it: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/ReleaseNotes046 Also, there are a few TODO's in the notes that need filled in: [faster gradients - mental] [sculpt profiles - bbyak] [Open Clip Art Library import and export - rejon] [toolbars - JonCruz] [calligraphy: menus, tooltips; star; ... - joncruz] [Switched to stock GTK+ toolbars. - joncruz] [Extra magic secret sauce added. - joncruz] [filedialogs - JonCruz] Please take some time this week to get these fleshed out. We need to get the ReleaseNotes finalized SOON so the translators can translate them! Bryce

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Submitted updated font specification patch
by Gail Carmichael 05 Jan '08

05 Jan '08

For those interested: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/169973 Please let me know if anything needs further discussion. Otherwise, you can give the word and I can submit it (or someone can go ahead and submit it if they feel like it). Gail

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Dead link to Sourceforge from inkscape.org homepage
by Tom Davidson 05 Jan '08

05 Jan '08

Not sure of the best forum for this: on the main menu at the left of www.inkscape.org, the 'Patches' button links to: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=93438&atid=604308 Which is an error page ("permission denied"). -Tom

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funded research project for animation in Inkscape
by Bryce Harrington 04 Jan '08

04 Jan '08

Does anyone have contacts with a university, research institute, or company that would be interested in a funded project to develop animation support for Inkscape? There is a proposal going in by April '08 for funding a project like this, to start in Dec '08 and running 30 months. Please contact me off-list if you know of a university, institute, or company that would be interested in this, and I'll put you in touch. Bryce

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New bug stats graph interfance
by Bryce Harrington 03 Jan '08

03 Jan '08

Hi all, For those following the bug charts, here's a new UI for viewing them: http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/Plots/ I'd finally gotten tired of browsing through a raw directory listing so hacked this together. Inkscape is under the Applications tab. Bryce P.S., Tested with Firefox and Konqueror.

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Inkscape taken as a reference for vector illustration on OS X
by jiho 03 Jan '08

03 Jan '08

Hi everyone, I thought I would share this fact with the whole development team: a french guy started a new vector design software called Drawberry[1] which basically leverages OS X technology (Quartz and CoreImage) to draw and export simple vector drawings. In its description, it takes Inkscape as a reference for a complete, high end vector design software: "With DrawBerry, you have all the possibilities the vectorial drawing offers you in a free, easy to use and powerful application. If you don’t need applications such Illustrator or Inkscape and you want to create some simple (or less simple) illustrations, DrawBerry is for you." I'm sure this has already happened plenty of times on Linux: on this platform, Inkscape is clearly the biggest player. However what I find interesting is that Drawberry is Mac OS X only by design, and that Inkscape, though being non native, GTK based and all, is still recognized as a big player on this platform, right next to Illustrator. This is quite an achievement. The ill-intentioned may argue that this could also means that Inkscape is becoming as bloated and unusable as Illustrator is but I'm sure that the amazing amount of new features currently brewing in Inkscape will finally settle down and find their place in a clear, intuitive UI... Inkscape-style. Congratulations to all the dev team, and happy new year. [1] http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/imaging_3d/drawberry.html JiHO --- http://jo.irisson.free.fr/

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using LPEs (take 2)
by Steren Giannini 02 Jan '08

02 Jan '08

Hello, The release is coming and I don't think the LPE tool is ready. I just wanted to notice some strange things that need to be discussed : 1. "Pattern along Path" is not a good name, it doesn't deal with "patterns" (on a svg point of view). 2. The "copy" problem see bug #179840 for description 3. flip, rotate or scale a LPE object : see bug #179842 for description And please watch this youtube video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0rx__lIlkg The Red path has a "bend path" lpe applied The green one is the same converted into path, it acts as a reference for us. This is the result we naturally expect for the transformation of the red path. 4. Once Johan coded a "width control line" for "Bend Path", I found it very useful but it has now disappeared. Hoping It will be useful. Steren

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test, please ignore
by Lucas Vieites 02 Jan '08

02 Jan '08

having trouble sending to the list, so i'm testing -- Lucas Vieites Fariña <lucas@...1852...> Got the code, got the connection... codexion.com

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Is OpenClipart export robust enough for 0.46?
by Bryce Harrington 01 Jan '08

01 Jan '08

Hi all, The import from openclipart function is pretty slick, and works fairly intuitively. I like it. However, the export function seems clunky, and isn't working for me. The dialog UI for export is quite primitive and doesn't work in an intuitive fashion. It also currently has the following (quite critical) bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/179452 I feel the amount of UI work alone to get export up to snuff is beyond what can be achieved at this point in the release cycle (unless some hero can really pound on it in the next 1-2 weeks). I imagine there may also be a non-trivial amount of work under the hood, too. What are other people's opinions on the idea of disabling OCAL export for 0.46? Bryce

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Does PDF Import actually work?
by Joshua Facemyer / Impressus Art 01 Jan '08

01 Jan '08

you can git the latest version at: git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/poppler/test If you still need me to send the files, I can, but it's an old version. JF kaver wrote: > Joshua, > Can you send me the Poppler pdf test suite files that you cannot open? I > would like to test them on Inkscape and CorelDraw. > > Thanks. > Erik > kaver@...68... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joshua Facemyer / Impressus Art" <faceman@...1574...> > To: "kaver" <kaver@...68...> > Cc: <inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net>; "Bryce Harrington" > <bryce@...961...> > Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 7:06 PM > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Does PDF Import actually work? > > > >> Revision 16895 doesn't open any of the Poppler pdf test suite files for >> > me. > >> JF >> > >

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[NEW] blend modes moved to layers
by MenTaLguY 01 Jan '08

01 Jan '08

Because SVG has problems dealing with blends on non-top-level children (in our case, that generally means non-layers), I've moved blend modes selection to the layers dialog and made it per-layer rather than per-object. If you have existing artwork with blend modes on individual objects, or want to create new artwork with blend modes on individual objects, that can still be done from the SVG filters dialog. -mental

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Does PDF Import actually work?
by Guillermo Espertino 31 Dec '07

31 Dec '07

It works fine for me. I'm opening most of the AI and PDF files successfuly. I don't know if it's simply a coincidence, but it seems to be more stable to drag and drop files instead of importing them via menu (i've experimented some core dumps doing that). But I can't reproduce that problem easily to be sure. The problem that is indeed reproducible is the one that happens when you import a PDF/AI in an empty document and try to save. Inkscape hangs and you can't save the file or close the application. But if you create a new document, create an object (a rectangle, for example) and save it BEFORE importing the PDF, it works fine. The error you get in the cli when you open the file in an empty document is this: (inkscape:9124): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.14.1/gobject/gsignal.c:1654: signal `response' is invalid for instance `0x9d1d458' Anyone can confirm this? I'm filing a bug report about this right now. Regards, Gez.

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Printing
by Thomas Worthington 31 Dec '07

31 Dec '07

Is printing supposed to be working in rev.16673, or is it a known work-in-progress? It simply sends the CPU to 100% until inkscape is killed from the command line on my Linux machine; closing Inkscape using the normal Quit menu item is not enough. Thomas

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Call for Freeze Exceptions
by Bryce Harrington 30 Dec '07

30 Dec '07

Hi all, Tomorrow we're going to be progressing to the next phase of the release, but beforehand I want to check if anyone is doing feature development work and wish for a freeze exception. This isn't necessary for bug fixing work - if you're just doing bugs, please keep on trucking. Also, this is not for *new* features - if you are starting on any new ideas (even if they're just enhancements to existing features), PLEASE do this work on a branch, or locally; do not commit them to SVN head. So, if you're working on a feature, can you please tell me at this time? Also please report: * Current status * Anticipated date of completion * Issues that must be solved before release I'll assemble these exception requests into a list, so as people watch the SVN traffic and see changes that are not merely bug fixes, they can use the list to see if the changes are acceptable. If you're not on the list, your changes will risk being backed out. I don't anticipate rejecting any exception requests, although if the anticipated date is too far out, or the list of issues is lengthy, we may need to pow wow on how we can put additional focus on getting the thing ready in time. Bryce

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NEW: cross-platform print dialog
by Kees Cook 30 Dec '07

30 Dec '07

Using the Cairo renderer that was written for PDF and PS export, I've hooked up the GTK print dialog system. This provides Inkscape with a cross-platform printing dialog (finally). In the past, we have had two methods of printing: vector and bitmap (for things that don't render correctly in PS). In the new print dialog, the "Rendering" tab exists to control this. In "Cairo" mode, it uses the Cairo renderer, and in "bitmap" mode it uses the PNG export code to populate a Cairo surface. The bulk of the new code is in: src/ui/widgets/rendering-options.* src/ui/dialog/print.* src/print.cpp There is some strange behavior in bitmap mode (offset from origin) that I haven't narrowed down yet. -- Kees Cook @outflux.net

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Oversized dUI elements on Ubuntu
by Michael Grosberg 30 Dec '07

30 Dec '07

Since I've been working on Ubuntu lately I noticed that all the icons have excessive sizes on this system. It seems the toolbars, which AFAIK were desiged to used 16X16 icons, actually use 24X24 icons instead (obviously this is taken from the Ubuntu GTK theme). Also, docked dialogs are extremely wide. I'm using a 1280X1024 resolution desktop, and the dialogs still take up almost a third of the width of the screen. they are on the largish side on Windows as well, but not as large as on Ubuntu. This is a problem, usability-wise. It leaves very little space for actual work, and unless you work on almost full screen, you usually won't even see all the icons on the toolbar because the last ones on the right are clipped. Is it possible to somehow make inkscape ignore the current global gtk theme and use its own icon and widget sizes?

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Absence notification
by Maximilian Albert 29 Dec '07

29 Dec '07

Hi all, just wanted to leave a note that I'll be away for a week and won't have internet access so anything requiring my interaction will have to wait until I'm back. There are still a couple of things to do - most notably, updating the Release Notes (sorry that I haven't got around to it yet) and making the toolbar for the 3D box tool functional (currently only the shortcuts work), apart from a few other odds and ends. I'll do this as soon as I'm back. Best wishes and a Happy New Year to all in advance! Max

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Path Effects shortcut mixed with Division (Shift+Ctrl+7)
by unknown＠example.com 28 Dec '07

28 Dec '07

>From bug #178738: "Opening it from the menu Path > Path Effects works fine but when I hit Shift+Ctrl+7 the only thing I get is a note in statusbar: Select at least 2 paths to perform a boolean operation. If I have 2 paths selected and they overlap I get Division (Ctrl+/) if I hit Shift+Ctrl+7 I guess this is a regional keyboard problem, cos my / is above number 7" To fix this probably we should come up with another key than the 7/ampersand for the LPE's. I do not know all keyboard layouts that apparently exist. :-( Regards, Johan

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Tango icon theme take 3
by joel＠...1709... 28 Dec '07

28 Dec '07

Hmm....this is proving quite difficult! How are we going to get a conensus? It seems like the group is pretty evenly divided between those who (like me) love the new icons, and those who hate them. Really I agree with the points Bryce made yesterday. He talked about consistency across the free desktop, and consistentcy with host desktops. But if you look at this screenshot I made yesterday: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/11076114/C%3A%5CDocuments%20and%20Settings%5C…, I'd go one step further: We need tango, because it makes inkscape consistent with itself. Notice that now the standard GTK Icons - New, Open, Save, Cut, Copy, Paste are all tango style. I love the consistancy across the top row now. Also, strangely, I actually like the tango theme. I don't understand why so few do. People keep talking about pastel shades in the new theme: http://www.inkscape.org/images/tango_theme.png, but if you look at the old theme - the Rectangle, Elipse, Polygon, Paint Bucket, and Gradient tools each of them looks more pastelly (to my eye) than the new set (I think now perhaps that Rectangle, Elipse, Polygon are a little too vibrant) I wonder how we'll resolve this difference of opinion. Joel ---------------------------------------- From: Dan H <dunno@...1090...> Sent: 28 December 2007 10:11 To: inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Tango icon theme take 3 Hello there, I'm going to start with a statement that will give raise to misunderstandings, so please read on before getting too worked-up about it. Here goes: I don't like the Tango icons at all. Uff, I said it. But don't get me wrong: I think it is essential for such a great application as Inkscape to look "modern" and to blend in with the look we see on current desktop computers. To this end I think Michael has done a great job. When I say that I don't like the Tango icons it's probably more to the point to say that I don't like the way desktop aesthetics are headed in general. I abhor the whole "pastelization" tendency and I'm happier with more "stark-looking" icons. Remember Atari TOS? Those were the days. Now for some constructive criticism. Neither have I closely followed the icon discussion so far, nor have I contributed anything to it, so please feel free to flame me for jumping in so late. But I've got one or two points to make. My reference is this image: http://www.inkscape.org/images/tango_theme.png , so I may be completely out of touch with current development. 1. The Circle, Box and Polygon tools look very different on account of their different colors, although they are quite similar in functionality (they all create a "flat", optionally filled shape). Also they don't convey the impression of something "drawn", but they look more like finished, plastic objects. In v. 0.45 the black outline suggested more of a "filled, drawn object" look. A red circle with a set-apart red outline just isn't something one would or could draw with the primitive circle tool. I don't know what the 3D cube is for (my version doesn't have that), but I'd group it apart from the "flat object" category of tools. 2. The double outline in the spiral, pen and pencil line doesn't really make any sense. I know that it probably was added so the icon works on a black background, but I don't know to what extent this requirement should be pampered. 1+2. In combination, I miss the "black outline" and "colored fill" consistency across all drawing tools that the old icons had. 3. The angled pen positions on the old icons looked more dynamic and natural. But then, of course, it doesn't really matter. Icon aesthetics are primarily to get newbies hooked. Once one gets used to a tool, one wouldn't switch to one with better-looking icons unless it offered a substantially better functionality (and in in the case of Inkscape, which one could?). I must admit that it was the intriguing aesthetics of sodipodi that got me onto the SVG train in the first place, and I still remember them as the best-looking set of all. Now if only Inkscape offered workaround-free colored arrowheads and a less extravagant pattern generator tool I'd happily embrace the Tango icons. --D.

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