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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Missing nightly builds for Linux&MacOS
by Bob Jamison 12 Aug '08

12 Aug '08

Also, apparently OSX builds can only be made on an OSX box. How nice it would be if someone could find a box for us to set up for nightly trunk OSX builds. Native, even. ^^ Or is cross-compiling possible? Maybe if someone has actually seen this in action, it would be good to know, rather than speculation. bob -----Original Message----- >From: Bob Jamison <rwjj@...127...> >Sent: Aug 12, 2008 4:25 PM >To: Jiri Klement <jiri.klement@...400...>, inkscape-devel <inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net> >Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Missing nightly builds for Linux&MacOS > >Hi, > >The trick, of course, is having volunteers to create >the builds. Often I have considered halting the win32 >builds. :-) > >There are some almost nightly binreloc-enabled Linux >builds here: > >http://inkscape.modevia.com/btool/?C=M;O=D > >But since they are purely for testing, they do not >provide the required library dependencies. People >can download their own. > >Well, everything on that site is for testing (not >for a casual user), so they are a bit more >effort than a regular install. > > > >bob > > > >-----Original Message----- >>From: Jiri Klement <jiri.klement@...400...> >>Sent: Aug 12, 2008 2:41 PM >>To: inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net >>Subject: [Inkscape-devel] Missing nightly builds for Linux&MacOS >> >>Hi, >> >>I've found a little error in inkscape website. On page >>http://www.inkscape.org/download/?lang=en in section Compiled packages >>should be nightly builds, but nightly builds are available only for >>Windows, other systems have only compiled stable versions. >> >>-- >>Jiri >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge >>Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes >>Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world >>http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ >>_______________________________________________ >>Inkscape-devel mailing list >>Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge >Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes >Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world >http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ >_______________________________________________ >Inkscape-devel mailing list >Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel

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Missing nightly builds for Linux&MacOS
by Jiri Klement 12 Aug '08

12 Aug '08

Hi, I've found a little error in inkscape website. On page http://www.inkscape.org/download/?lang=en in section Compiled packages should be nightly builds, but nightly builds are available only for Windows, other systems have only compiled stable versions. -- Jiri

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] mass conversion to Geom::Point
by Diederik van Lierop 12 Aug '08

12 Aug '08

Op Di, 12 augustus, 2008 01:11, schreef J.B.C.Engelen@...1578...: > Often it is not needed to add to_2geom/from_2geom, so please don't! > The conversion goes automatically between NR::Point <=> Geom::Point and > NR::Matrix <=> Geom::Matrix. > Only ambiguities need a little more guideance: > void some_function(NR::Point nr) > Geom::Point geom; > Geom::Point ambiguous = nr - geom; > What about methods that require parameters by reference for getting data both in and out? Will the implicit casting work correctly for those too? Maybe I should just try that myself; there are quite some snapping calls requiring Geom::Point& (without being const). It would be great if I could just pass a NR::Point. So far I've used dummy variables for that. It's quite cumbersome indeed to transfer everything to 2geom. Last weekend I had a shot at the snapping code, but I have caused some regressions which need to be fixed first. I guess Johan could still use some additional hands. Regards, Diederik

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Spray tool discussion
by Pajarico 12 Aug '08

12 Aug '08

Here is the example showing how limits+randomness work: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Image:Spray-tool-attributes01.png I took my ideas and ideas from Steren. This hopefully resolves my issue with the concept of "randomness" which wasn't clear to me exactly how it should act (even when I was convinced that I wanted such parameter). The mechanics for the rest of attributes (S, L and O) and dimensions (rotation and scale) is exactly the same. Note that when randomness is set to 0, the value is always |(max-min)|/2 (it's an absolute value for cases where min>max). I've to revamp a bit the toolbar for this tool, since with these changes some of the buttons can be scrapped (like scattering radius). It lacks a way to select an original for spraying it. I thought about a button "pick original" in the main toolbar. When pressed the cursor changes to the normal arrow to click on an object/group and from then on that's the original (in clone mode all of the clones are linked to it, in the other two modes the object is just used for spraying but not linked to the sprayed items). Any (better) ideas? Another issue: clones inherit attributes so is not possible to set these parameters. Un less there is a way to make clones where the only feature inherited is the shape. Regards.

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mass conversion to Geom::Point
by unknown＠example.com 11 Aug '08

11 Aug '08

Hi all, I just started mass converting to Geom::Point, but then it struck me that this will conflict with many changes other people are creating. So I think it is best not to mass convert. It is the same with whitespace things. Let me know what you all think. NR::Point contains cast methods, so Geom::Point and NR::Point are interchangeable in 90% of the cases. It would help a lot if you'd just change NR::Point to Geom::Point in a line you are editing. Thanks! Johan

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Test suite directory structure
by Jasper van de Gronde 11 Aug '08

11 Aug '08

I've been talking to Johan about the directory structure used by the rendering tests (in gsoc-testsuite/tester/testcases). The following directories currently exist: - basic: a few tests that test Inkscape's SVG rendering capabilities (four of them are really quite "basic", the fifth is perhaps not very "basic") - bugs: some tests from bug reports - complex: currently just an LPE test - svgtestsuite-1.1: a selection of tests from the W3C SVG test suite If anyone has any suggestions for restructuring basic/complex, that would be great, they seem a bit awkward. The original idea was that basic just tests general SVG features.

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Spray tool discussion
by Pajarico 10 Aug '08

10 Aug '08

Hi again. I just uploaded the GUI for the advanced options: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Image:Spray-tool-ui02.png Is a bit over the top and some of the combinations may not have a lot of sense in the end. Some explaining: - The checkboxes allow the change of the attributes. Is one is not activated it means the sprayed items will have that feature the same as the original, unaltered. In the case of spacing (which is not an attribute) I don't know how this should work. - Scale allows any value, positive or negative, as this will allow the motif to be bigger or smaller than original. - Rotation (and Hue) are always positive and the min can be higher than the max. Why you ask? because if this is not allowed, some configurations will be unavailable. If you want items to be rotated between 15-345º (a margin of 330º), you would use min=15º and max=345º. But what if you want them rotated on the other sector (345-15º=30º)? In that case you would use min=345º and max=15º. - X and Y spacing are there but I'm not sure of what units to use. Should it be a % of the stroke width on each axis? What behavior do people expect for spacing? I can't make my mind right now. - The color variation is activated independently for the stroke/fill for each HLSO attribute. With the intention of making the color selection easier and faster, I've placed two color swatches (on the min and max columns) so the user can call the color selector and pick the color or insert values manually. Again, for the same reasons, the min value can be higher than the max. - I'm not exactly sure how "use lightness from background" and "tablet pressure" does interact with the rest of the settings. My idea is that these two should vary the attribute between the set limits. But randomness doesn't make much sense when using a tablet or the lightness since you would want that attribute to be controlled and not random. Maybe the Randomness spinbox should be deactivated when "use lightness..." or "tablet" are checked. Regards. PS: I think my HD is dying :(

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Inconsistency of rotate/flip buttons behaviour
by Mattias 10 Aug '08

10 Aug '08

The rotate left/right and flip horizontal/vertical buttons are so close to each other on toolbar but behave different on multiple selected objects. When selected multiple objects and rotating, all objects rotate around their centre. To have them rotate as one, you first have to group them, rotate, ungroup. When flipping multiple selected objects, they already flip as group and see no option to flip these by themselves. I think these should behave similar. Most of other programs treat selection as group, and this is what I first expected of Inkscape. But considering the fact that grouping and rotating is quite easy, so having these actions both per object would make these actions more general and therefore more useful. And to mention, I would only file a bug, no actual coding yet, Inkscape codebase is a lot like Chinese for me (refering to something ultimately complex). Also, thanks for this good program Mattias

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POVRay and JavaFX output
by Bob Jamison 09 Aug '08

09 Aug '08

Although I really didn't want to do more work on those two outputs, I was curious how 2geom's transforms worked, so I spent the day updating POV and JavaFX output. Ok, I think that -this time- I am finished with the javafx stuff, and I'll let someone take it from here. Here is how our svg Tiger renders in javafx: http://inkscape.modevia.com/win32_inkscape_org/jfxdump.png I tested the POV output on POVRay 3.7a, and it seems to work fine. It is recoded to be recursive rather than iterative. Some POV users needed it to preserve groups, so this should help. bob

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pdf import crash
by Mihaela 09 Aug '08

09 Aug '08

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Easier unit testing on Windows
by Jasper van de Gronde 08 Aug '08

08 Aug '08

You can now run 'buildtool check' or 'buildtool dist-all-check' to run the unit tests (or build everything and run the unit tests). The dist-cxxtests target is gone.

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Tool Options Bar accessibility ideas
by Valerie 08 Aug '08

08 Aug '08

> Of course, another option (which would be a user-toggled > option) is to use a button to make extra tool options > bars available with the other options. Click it to toggle > them on, use what you need, click to toggle > off if you need the work space. Or, click to toggle on, > toggle off automatically on mouse-exit from the toolbar > (or entry onto the canvas). Say, I think that's a splendid idea! Most tool options can be grouped into sets: Pencil tool options include: - LPE (being implemented) - line style + marker style (would be handy for many) Text tool options include: - kerning (not yet implemented, many people want it) - buttons for flow into shape or text along path + padding (non-existing either) - and perhaps toggling between "simple" style options and advanced text options So basically, there could be some visibility buttons on the side for you to toggle what you want visible and what you don't. Apart from that, there could be an option for tool options to appear on two rows instead of one if it ever gets crowded.

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Spray tool discussion
by Pajarico 08 Aug '08

08 Aug '08

Hi, I've just started to write a blueprint for a Spray tool. You can find it here: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/SpecSprayTool I need input on the following topics: 1) I propose that 3 parameters can be controlled (scaling, rotation and color). Every parameter has limits and a randomness to fine tune how the variation works. I need to know your thoughts about this and any nuances that might appear while coding, or on the UI... which leads me to the second question. 2) Having so many boxes and buttons on a toolbar is going to take a lot of space. I suggest to have the settings placed like in the UI example and where 'Other options...' is put another button that unrolls a window with the variations controls (check boxes for activating scaling, rotation and color variations, limits and randomness). Any other viable suggestion with the purpose of reducing clutter will be welcomed ;) 3) I've put the use 'lightness of background' as an available option but I'm not sure what should affect exactly: width? scattering? Ideally, I would like to see that every parameter (width, scattering, scaling, rotation and color) could be altered by this switch independently (I'm going to aim high ;): and also by the tablet pressure). 4) This tool uses two radiuses: outer one is the Scatter radius, it's the maximum area in which the tool has effect. Inner one is the Width radius, it's the are in which most of the items are sprayed. I made the mockup this way but now I dislike it a bit. I think is more intuitive to adjust the maximum affected area with the Width parameter, and let the Scatter radius be a % of it but going towards the center (i .e.: always Width radius>Scatter radius). Tell me what you think of this behavior. I think that's was all. Regards.

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python: example in wiki
by Daniel Hornung 07 Aug '08

07 Aug '08

Hello, I hope this list is the correct one for this kind of question: Has anyone managed to get http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/PythonEffectTutorial to work without major changes? It failed for me both on a gentoo system and on a pretty vanilla Ubuntu 8.04 box. I don't know if I will find the time to edit the wiki page according to the current lxml behaviour, but I might give it a try. Additionally Ishmal(I think) said on irc/jabber that lxml might not be used in the future anymore anyway. Now for the list of problems I encountered: * Simply making the file executable and putting it into ~/.inkscape/extensions/ is not sufficient, it won't find inkex there, but no problem, simply add import sys sys.path.append('/usr/share/inkscape/extensions') # or another path, as appropriate for your installation to the top of it. A minor problem. * All the getElementsByTagName, getAttribute, createElement,... methods are unknown to lxml, at least in the versions here (1.3.6). Inkscape returns the python error message ending with: File "/home/dhornun/.inkscape/extensions/helloworld.py", line 32, in effect svg = self.document.getElementsByTagName('svg')[0] AttributeError: 'etree._ElementTree' object has no attribute 'getElementsByTagName' If this is not a problem on the distributions' side, those can probably be fixed by adapting the code to reflect lxml's current API. Thank you very much for any useful advice! Daniel -- GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du Leute mit Deinen Interessen! Jetzt dabei sein: http://www.shortview.de/wasistshortview.php?mc=sv_ext_mf@...1921...

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Spray tool discussion (Population)
by Tony Vigil 07 Aug '08

07 Aug '08

Pajarico, Is Population the number of objects sprayed out over a specific amount of time? - Tony

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NEW: Clone/original visualization
by bulia byak 07 Aug '08

07 Aug '08

When you press Shift+D to find and select the original of the selected clone, Inkscape draws a dashed line between the centers of the bounding boxes of the clone and the original. This line disappears after one second. -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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GTK build error
by Andy Fitzsimon 07 Aug '08

07 Aug '08

hey guys I've just come into this. what's up with GTK ? widgets/sp-widget.cpp: In function 'GtkType sp_widget_get_type()': widgets/sp-widget.cpp:58: warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to 'gchar*' depbase=`echo widgets/sp-xmlview-attr-list.o | sed 's|[^/]*$|.deps/&|;s|\.o$||'`;\ g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -I/usr/include/freetype2 -pthread -I/usr/include/gnome-vfs-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/include -I/usr/include/gconf/2 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/freetype2 -DPOTRACE=\"potrace\" -pthread -I/usr/include/gdkmm-2.4 -I/usr/lib/gdkmm-2.4/include -I/usr/include/glibmm-2.4 -I/usr/lib/glibmm-2.4/include -I/usr/include/pangomm-1.4 -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/cairomm-1.0 -I/usr/include/sigc++-2.0 -I/usr/lib/sigc++-2.0/include -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/gtkmm-2.4 -I/usr/lib/gtkmm-2.4/include -I/usr/include/atkmm-1.6 -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/libxml2 -I/usr/include/libpng12 -I../cxxtest -Werror=format-security -Wall -Wformat -Wformat-security -W -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Wsign-compare -Woverloaded-virtual -Wswitch -Wno-unused-parameter -g -O2 -MT widgets/sp-xmlview-attr-list.o -MD -MP -MF $depbase.Tpo -c -o widgets/sp-xmlview-attr-list.o widgets/sp-xmlview-attr-list.cpp &&\ mv -f $depbase.Tpo $depbase.Po In file included from /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtk.h:222, from /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtksignal.h:33, from /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtkclist.h:35, from widgets/sp-xmlview-attr-list.h:17, from widgets/sp-xmlview-attr-list.cpp:22: /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtkctree.h:110: error: 'GtkCList' does not name a type /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtkctree.h:127: error: 'GtkCListClass' does not name a type /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtkctree.h:149: error: 'GtkCListRow' does not name a type /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtkctree.h:342: error: 'GtkCellType' does not name a type make[2]: *** [widgets/sp-xmlview-attr-list.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/afitzsim/Build/inkscape/src' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/afitzsim/Build/inkscape' make: *** [all] Error 2 whats happening with

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drag/click mode in pen tool
by Maximilian Albert 06 Aug '08

06 Aug '08

Hi, for a while I have been wondering what the 'mode' variable in SPPenContext means. It seems that it can assume the two values SP_PEN_CONTEXT_MODE_DRAG and SP_PEN_CONTEXT_MODE_CLICK. But now I discovered that its value is read from preferences-skeleton.h where it is set to _DRAG, and there doesn't seem to be any way to change that. Can anyone enlighten me what _CLICK is useful for and if it is settable at all? Thanks, Max

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] [Inkscape-user] Snap to grid when pasting
by Diederik van Lierop 06 Aug '08

06 Aug '08

Vincent Hennebert wrote: > Pasting at a multiple of the grid-pitch looks like a reasonable solution > to me. It's been re-invented and committed to SVN. Please be alert for any bugs I might have introduced. Regards, Diederik

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NEW: Paraxial mode in pen tool
by Maximilian Albert 06 Aug '08

06 Aug '08

Hi, apart from the recent "zigzag" mode there is now a "paraxial" mode in pen tool. In this mode, the user can only create straight line segments that are parallel to one of the coordinate axes. Normally, each line segment is drawn perpendicular to the previous one. The direction of the line segment being drawn can be toggled with Shift. When clicking on the start anchor, the path is closed with an L-shaped segment (the direction of which can also be flipped with Shift). Let me know if you have any issues with it. [1] Max [1] Known bugs: When creating the initial segment with Shift, the second segment is parallel to the first one instead of perpendicular to it (although all subsequent ones get drawn correctly). Moreover, when closing a path the final segment is sometimes drawn slightly slanted.

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W3C SVG test suite available as rendering tests in SVN
by Jasper van de Gronde 06 Aug '08

06 Aug '08

A large part of the W3C test suite, stripped of all its text elements is now available as rendering tests in SVN. It does not include anything that relies solely on text, animation or scripting (at least I've tried to make sure it doesn't). Compared to the latest test suite compliance results on the Wiki there either have been quite a few regressions or I've been more strict. In any case, there are plenty of failure cases (63 out of 151). See http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/TestingInkscape for information on running the tests.

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cutter control discussion
by Patrick 06 Aug '08

06 Aug '08

I have not seen any posts on this topic for a week or so. I would like to help but I am terribly slow to get things done. I am just wondering if we could hammer out what needs to be done so I can add it to my "to-do list" volume 3 I could buy a cutter in July or August and I should be able to finish reverse engineering the command protocol sometime in the fall. I know there are different formats used to send information to the cutters, would it be good to work on a more robust DXF export option too? I don't know the first thing out GSD, does does someone want to work on this ? I am unfamiliar with Inkscape internals, if I provided the commands could someone integrate this into Inkscape? Or do we even want to do this? Is there a better way? Thanks-Patrick

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NEW: auto relinking clones on duplicate
by bulia byak 06 Aug '08

06 Aug '08

If you turn on the "When duplicating original+clones: Relink duplicated clones" option on Clones tab of Inkscape Preferences (default is off), duplicating a selection containing both a clone and its original (possibly in groups) will relink the duplicated clone to the duplicated original instead of the old original. -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] cutter control discussion
by Alvin Penner 06 Aug '08

06 Aug '08

this is a request for feedback from anyone who uses a vinyl cutter and uses ROBO Master software. I just submitted a proposal for a ROBO Master output format : https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/255157 and would welcome any feedback as to whether this helps or *not* as the case may be.... APP -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/cutter-control-discussion-tp17809314p18842137.html Sent from the Inkscape - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Kerning pairs not working on Windows
by Kyungjoon Lee 05 Aug '08

05 Aug '08

Hi, https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/219864 Kerning pairs don't work on Windows; could someone have a look, and tell me if this is a dupe, please? Thanks. Cheers, Kyungjoon Lee

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