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by fedemil＠...92... 29 Jan '07

29 Jan '07

Hello, my name is Federico Miliacca and I'm a student of engineering at the University of Roma "La Sapienza" in Italy. I'm to leading a bachelor thesis about the Animated Vectorial Graphics under INKSCAPE. I would have to realize a module that modernizes in real time the color of the edge and the background of the present objects on the canvas of job. The objects will have to be simple rectangles or circles. In the days it passes I have analyzed to the code source and I have characterized many interesting rows (repr-io.cpp - attribute-record.h - share.cpp - etc) in order to understand as INKSCAPE manages the rescue of the objects and to understand here like capturing the same objects from the memory. I asked if you could kindly clear to me as INKSCAPE represents the objects in memory and which rows are use you for this rapresentation. Then I would want to know what you can advise to me in order to realize this module that must read to the label of an object or its id and modify edge and background reading the data from a DBMS. Thanks all you for the aid that me give, if succeed to resolve this my doubt, can continue with the my thesis and complete the my course of bachelor. Sincerely yours Federico Miliacca Naviga e telefona senza limiti con Tiscali Scopri le promozioni Tiscali adsl: navighi e telefoni senza canone Telecom http://abbonati.tiscali.it/adsl/

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unclumping
by Romain Thouvenin 29 Jan '07

29 Jan '07

Hello, I'm Romain, born in France. I'd like to contribute to this great project, so I just subscribed to translator and devel (I study computer science), and started working :) I am working on translating fuzzy messages, and I found the message "Unclump tiled clones". I figured out that it was the message corresponding to undo pressing the "Unclump" button when making tiled clones. But when I try this button, the clones become closer and closer, that's quite different from "spreading out", isn't it ? Did I miss something or is it a mistake in the implementation of the unclumping process ? Maybe I didn't understand what clumping is ? Thanks for your help, Romain

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NEED: person to round-up troops for Inkscape for Libre Graphics Meeting 2007 in Montreal
by Jon Phillips 29 Jan '07

29 Jan '07

Hello all, LGM2007 is about to be launched in full force with PR and so forth and I'm hopeful that someone from Inkscape-land would step-up to help be the contact point for LGM2007 activity for Inkscape. I'm locking down Open Clip Art Library and helping with the conference, so want to get someone else involved with mobilizing the troops and trying to get as many Inkscape users and developers to Montreal May 4 - 6, 2007. Here is the temp site: http://lgm.scribus.net It would be an easy role that would involve helping promote the conference with Inkscape, keeping track of how Inkscape is represented on the LGM site/Create Wiki, and get you about 100 points in everyone's book :) Ping me if you are interested... Jon -- Jon Phillips San Francisco, CA USA PH 510.499.0894 jon@...235... http://www.rejon.org MSN, AIM, Yahoo Chat: kidproto Jabber Chat: rejon@...896... IRC: rejon@...897...

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Problem with gtk?
by Joshua Facemyer / Impressus Art 29 Jan '07

29 Jan '07

Bob, can you be my personal hero? That was perfect! (...looking around office for laurels...) Sorry, the only ivy I have here is a dried out one... I had tried recompiling gtk to a lower version just a bit ago, again to no avail. Then I moved "preferences.xml" to "bob" and it worked like a charm. Sweet! I'll let you know if it continues to do this intermittently in the future as it has in the past. JF Bob Jamison wrote: > Joshua Facemyer / Impressus Art wrote: >> I compiled inkscape .45-pre2 to no avail. I don't like this. I'm >> trying some posts elsewhere to see if I can figure it out. >> > > Joshua, > > This might not have anything to do with your problem, > but again, it just might. Try deleting your ~/.inkscape/preferences.xml > file and restart. It occasionally happens that as people have > newer and newer SVN builds of Inkscape, their existing > preferences.xml is no longer suited to the current build. This > has affected menus and dialogs in the past. It might be a > remote possibility that it affects your mouse and keyboard too. > > Just a guess, it might not be relevant at all. > > > bob >

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LGM 2 Website / freenode
by Plinnell 28 Jan '07

28 Jan '07

Hi, Thanks to Andy Fitzsimon, we have a mockup and we are adding content to LGM2 website at http://lgm.scribus.net .. This only a temporary location when it is more complete we will switch over to the LGM domain. Please forward any content you wish to Louis Desjardins <louis.desjardins@...400...> I have also setup #lgm on irc://freenode.net Cheers, Peter

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Non-translatable strings in "enum" type inextensions (was Re: textual problems in release 0.45 branch)
by unknown＠example.com 28 Jan '07

28 Jan '07

Johan wrote: > Josef Vybiral wrote: > > due to the error that made the "Pattern along path" > > extension unusable I had to disable translations for string > options > >that the extension used and which are listed below > (instructions for > >translators follow): > >[...] > > These items are stored in an <item> tag of a new type of UI elements > > ("enum") that Johan (as what Aaron told me) introduced. > > [...] > > Johan: As I understand, you introduced this type of UI element. If > > so, is there any chance you could be able to add a new 'value=""' > > parameter to the <item> tag please? Or is it possible already? This > > would allow translators to translate description text between > > <_item></_item> tags and extension developers to specify > > values that > >they need. > > Very good point. Should have made it that way right from the start! > Fixing this ASAP. Fixed in SVN head now! I have not done enough testing to get this into 0.45 release, sorry. Please test this thoroughly in SVN, so we can get this in 0.45.1. Going to fix it now for radiobuttons. Cheers, Johan

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] [Inkscape-translator] Inkscape 0.45 Hard Freeze & String Freez
by Arpad Biro 27 Jan '07

27 Jan '07

Hi, > I have some questions related to some strings used in Inkscape, could > somebody ask the developer which is the meaning of the following? > Also, help form other translators is welcome! > msgid "Nudge vertically by pixels" > msgid "Nudge horizontally by pixels" No string like that anymore. Please download latest from SVN. > msgid "Backspace" I translated it as "delete a char backwards" > "Stack scans on top of one another (no gaps) instead of or tiling (usually " > "with gaps)" Stack: put on top of each other Tiling: filling with tiles > msgid "Increase to make the pen drag behind, as if slowed by inertia" > -- drag behind? Be slow to react > msgid "RGB Barrel" I translated it as "rotate RGB channels" > msgid "Lorem ipsum" Latin, I think we shouldn't translate. Try it out, it inserts some text starting with "Lorem ipsum". > msgid "Extrude" I translated it as "pull out" > msgid "Pattern along Path" Repeatedly draw a pattern following a path as if the pattern were the stroke for that path. Screenshot: http://www.inkscape.org/screenshots/gallery/inkscape-0.45-patternalongpath.… > msgid "Jitter nodes" Something like "move each one randomly" -- "scatter", "disperse", "diffuse" > msgid "Straighten Segments" Make segments more straight (less curved) Arpad Biro ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121

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Problem with gtk?
by Joshua Facemyer / Impressus Art 27 Jan '07

27 Jan '07

I've had a problem with inkscape fairly frequently when I start it the first time after starting X (I use XFCE on gentoo). It doesn't happen every time, but frequently, and if I restart X, it usually goes away. The problem is that I can't actually edit anything on the canvas, whether I open a new file or an existing one. All the buttons and dialogs behave correctly - except they don't do anything on the canvas. Is this a known problem? It's persistent for me through several versions, and I'm using both .44 and .45-pre1. Right now, however, I've just upgraded to XFCE4.4 and gtk2+-2.10.9 and I can't edit the canvas at all in either version, even after rebooting the whole computer. I'm not sure if I should recompile inkscape, but it doesn't seem right (I upgraded gtk from a previous 2.10 version, not sure exactly which). I searched bugs and didn't see anything like this. Thanks. JF

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textual problems in release 0.45 branch
by Arpad Biro 27 Jan '07

27 Jan '07

Hi, Found more textual problems in the release branch. I also have a few questions regarding certain strings. untranslatable strings ---------------------- "Note: The file extension is appended automatically." ("Extract One Image" extension) "This effect measures the length of the selected path..." ("Measure Path" extension) "Requires two selected paths. The second must be exactly four nodes long." ("Envelope" extension) "Fractalize" ("Fractalize" extension) "Subdivisions" "Smoothness" "This effect bends a pattern object..." ("Pattern along path" extension) "Single" "Single, stretched" "Repeated" "Repeated, stretched" "Snake" "Ribbon" appears in English, even if translated -------------------------------------- "None" (fill/stroke widget on toolbar, status bar and in prefs) "Unset" "The following functions are available:..." ("Function Plotter" extension) questions --------- "Trace along the boundaries of reduced colors" -- does "reduced colors" mean "less colors" here? "RGB Barrel" -- what does it mean? "Isotropic scaling (uses smallest: width/xrange or height/yrange)" -- does this mean: "use the smaller of those two values"? "Scale Factor (Drawing:Real Length) = 1:" -- what does "(Drawing:Real Length) = 1" mean? "Text Outline File" -- what's a "text outline"? Arpad Biro ____________________________________________________________________________________ We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265

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Inkscape Booth at SCALE
by jtaber 27 Jan '07

27 Jan '07

First, does anyone else who cannot make it have any good slides they would like us to show at either the booth or BOF ? Especially on advanced features ? Booth notes: 1) Let's remember to bring a digital camera this year to post some booth photos (I'll try to remember to bring mine). 2) Any luck with drawing tablets ? 3) I'll bring my old LCD projector - does anyone have a better one ? 4) Let's all remember to bring power strips. 5) Does anyone have a 19" monitor ? If Wal-Mart still has them on sale for $199 maybe I'll get one. 6) our BOF is scheduled for Sat night 19:00 - 20:00. Shall we plan our dinner for Fri or Sat after BOF ? or both :) 7) We need to turn in our list of booth (free pass) volunteers. So far it looks like Ted, Josh, and myself. Anyone else coming ? Jon Cruz ? Ted, did you need a booth pass or do you get one as a featured speaker ? Josh, does your wife need a full pass or just an expo pass ?

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Inkscape 0.45-pre2 Released
by Bryce Harrington 27 Jan '07

27 Jan '07

The second preview release of Inkscape 0.45 is now released. The changes between pre1 and pre2 are mostly translations plus a few bugfixes. Hopefully we will not need any further pre-releases before the final release. Bryce On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 04:35:41PM -0800, Bryce Harrington wrote: > Hi all, > > Our first official preview release of Inkscape 0.45 is now available for > download: > > https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=93438&package_id=991… > > Note that I've just posted the source package; hopefully soon packagers > will begin uploading packages for specific platforms. > > This release is intended for beta testers. There will be no further > functional change between this and the 0.45 final release. Expected > changes after this include translations, bug fixes, and packaging > cleanup. > > Please give it a try, and if you spot issues please make sure they are > listed in our bug tracker. > > Thanks! > Bryce

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Xara and Inkscape comparison on Linux ActionShow
by Jon Phillips 26 Jan '07

26 Jan '07

Yes, this would be superior functionality. Also, would be good for the color of the mask outline to correspond to a generic layer color. So, similar to illustrator, each of our layers should have corresponding selection color which we could use for this type of notification. Also would be great to have ui to allow for selection of this layer selection color. What do you guys think? Jon -----Original Message----- From: "MenTaLguY" <mental@...3...> To: "bulia byak" <buliabyak@...400...> Cc: "Joshua A.Andler" <joshua@...533...>; "Jon Phillips" <jon@...235...>; "Inkscape Devel List" <inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net>; "Bryce Harrington" <bryce@...961...> Sent: 1/25/2007 11:03 AM Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Xara and Inkscape comparison on Linux ActionShow On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 14:40:45 -0400, "bulia byak" <buliabyak@...400...> wrote: > In a similar vein, we should enable the Node tool to edit both the > object itself and its clipping path at the same time, probably > displaying the clippath with a different color/shape of nodes. I really like this idea. We should probably also draw the outline of the clipping path shape when editing. -mental

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Gradient tool
by unknown＠example.com 26 Jan '07

26 Jan '07

If you find yourself with some offtime, I'd like you to check out my work on the gradient tool for 0.46. I fixed the crashes, so it's actually worth a look now! :D Go to the wiki page Josh made, and add whatever you like. http://wiki.inkscape.org:8080/wiki/index.php/Inkscape/gradientgoodness (I reckon a complete clean build is necessary after patching with my diff, but not sure) Cheers, Johan

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] [Inkscape-translator] Inkscape 0.45 Hard Freeze & String Freeze
by Arpad Biro 26 Jan '07

26 Jan '07

Hi, > I would also like at this time to declare String Freeze, to assist > translators in finalizing their translations. If there are any > remaining string issues such as non-translatable strings or fixes to > existing strings, please send patches in ASAP. I made a bug report of all string problems I'm aware of: http://sf.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1645093&group_id=93438&atid… Could other translators please check if they also see the "string translated, but appears in English" problems described there? Plus I have the following questions for translation: "Trace along the boundaries of reduced colors" (in "Trace bitmap" dialog) -- does "reduced colors" mean "less colors" here? "Isotropic scaling (uses smallest: width/xrange or height/yrange)" (in "Function Plotter" extension) -- does this mean: "use the smaller of those two values"? "Scale Factor (Drawing:Real Length) = 1:" (in "Measure Path" extension) -- what does "(Drawing:Real Length) = 1" mean? "Text Outline File" (in "Outline 2 SVG" extension) -- what's a "text outline"? Arpad Biro ____________________________________________________________________________________ Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097

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Inkscape 0.45 Release Plan
by Bryce Harrington 26 Jan '07

26 Jan '07

With the completion of the Bug Hunt, we are nearly ready to move to Feature Freeze, however there are a few tasks we must complete first: Frost: *** + (DONE) Wrap up development work + Select an about screen + Release Notes is 90% filled in + (DONE) Bug Hunt: 300 points + Identify the Release Wardens for 0.45 + Post inkscape-0.45pre0.tar.gz Feature Freeze: + SVN is branched + No further development work on release branch + Focus on critical bug fixing + Finalize all tutorials, docs, extensions, etc. + Translators create translations + Inkscape must pass 'make distcheck' + Packagers encouraged to test package creation + Post inkscape-0.45pre1.tar.gz Hard Freeze: + Focus on 'MUST FIX' bug fixing + Finalize translations + Finalize release notes + Test installation of packages for all major platforms + Post inkscape-0.45pre2.tar.gz Release + Final verification of late work, packaging, release notes, etc. + Post inkscape-0.45.tar.gz + Post packages for major platforms + Post official announcements Bryce

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attention windows packagers
by bulia byak 26 Jan '07

26 Jan '07

There are two issues that must be addressed in the next prerelease. 1. We need GTK at least version 2.10.7. Reason: in that version they fixed bug which causes a pretty bad crash in Inkscape: 374378 Crash as GTK tries to blink cursor in defocused spinbutto... Take the latest from http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/gtk+/2.10/. 2. We really need to package numpy (numeric python) with python on windows, otherwise the perspective extension does not work. Thanks! -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Xara and Inkscape comparison on Linux ActionShow
by MenTaLguY 25 Jan '07

25 Jan '07

On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 13:10:01 -0600, Aaron and Sarah Spike <spike@...749...> wrote: > The ability to draw those outlines will also be useful for blurred > objects and objects that have live path effects applied. :-) One thing we will need to be aware of, though, is that the render-only-the-displayed-portion-of-the-path optimizations apply only to NRArenaShape, not SPCanvasBPath (which is currently what we have to use for "annotations" like nodes and these hypothetical outlines). Kind of a shame since the two classes do essentially the same thing, and one of the reasons I think the canvas code needs to have the two layers unified somehow. -mental

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Xara and Inkscape comparison on Linux ActionShow
by bulia byak 25 Jan '07

25 Jan '07

On 1/25/07, Aaron and Sarah Spike <spike@...749...> wrote: > The ability to draw those outlines will also be useful for blurred > objects and objects that have live path effects applied. :-) Yes, and it's been in a todo list for a long time as well. Should not be terribly difficult though, we already have the necessary building blocks, just combine them. -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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INX definition of description text
by unknown＠example.com 25 Jan '07

25 Jan '07

Clearifying labels in an extension's UI are now defined in INX like: <_param name="cmdlinename" type="description">The description</_param> The external program, e.g. python, is called with a list of commandline options, among which: --cmdlinename="The description" I think this is not desired and that there are no cases where this cmdline option is actually used. funcplot.inx for example has a huge description parameter. The description isn't really a parameter; should we recode this to enable a syntax like: <_description>The description</_description> Or <label> or something else. (underscores to make it translatable, which is sometimes not necessary, e.g. in the case of funcplot.inx's help function listing) The easier solution is to add a check whether the param is a description and not add it to the cmdline. This would also benefit the notebook parameter whose cmdline text is also often superfluous (the cmdline specification of which notebook tab was selected). Implementing this is peanuts. Ideas? Johan

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Numerical input of node coordinates
by Aron Stansvik 25 Jan '07

25 Jan '07

Hello Inkscape developers. I recently started looking at how to add support for numerical input of node coordinates when editing a path, and it seems it will be a bit trickier than I initially though. My first question is how would you want this feature to work? There are two approaches that I can see: * Inputs in node editing tool bar - Values are updated while dragging a node? - Values are updated when a node is released after dragging? * Inputs in a dialog - Dialog is shown when double clicking a node? - Dialog is shown by pressing a button in the tool bar? After mentioning this on IRC, it seems the first approach is the favored one. So a couple of questions regarding this approach: 1) What's the best way to make the node editing tool bar aware of what goes on in nodepath.cpp (node selected, moved, N of selected nodes et.c.). Can I fire off signals and the tool bar will see them? The approach that the select tool bar uses to get notified of object modifications does not really seem to work for this (though I'm not sure). 2) Is it really important that the input values are updated _while_ dragging a node (like with object dragging), and not when dragging stops? (Latter seems easier to implement). Any advice and pointers from people more familiar with this part of the Inkscape code is appreciated, since this is my first stab at hacking Inkscape and I might be poking at the wrong places. Best regards, Aron Stansvik PS. ACSpike on IRC suggested that bbyak is probably the man I'm after. You there bbyak? :) DS.

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Inkscape 0.45 Release Plan
by Arpad Biro 25 Jan '07

25 Jan '07

Hi, > 2. For committing translations during the Hard Freeze, Aaron and I > would like to have an official Translations Integrator to handle > committing of all the translation patches. Arpad, do you have time > to take this role again this release? If not, then Cornelius, would > you be willing to take the role? OK for me. Still better would be to have both of us (Cornelius and me) in that role... Arpad Biro ____________________________________________________________________________________ Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545367

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+ Inkscape::SVG::PathString
by MenTaLguY 24 Jan '07

24 Jan '07

I've noticed a number of places in the codebase where people have been painstakingly building SVG path strings by hand. There had to be a better way. And now there is: Inkscape::SVG::PathString. It accumulates SVG path operations and is convertable to a Glib::ustring. Inkscape::SVG::PathString str; str.moveTo(0, 0).lineTo(100, 0) .lineTo(100, 100).lineTo(0, 100) .closePath(); return str.c_str(); (You don't have to do all the operations in one go, but you can if you want.) Check out the before and after of using it in sp-ellipse.cpp: http://svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/inkscape/inkscape/trunk/src/sp-ellipse.cp… So, the next time you're tempted to break out a raw SVGOStringStream (or worse, sprintf) to build a path string, consider SVG::PathString instead. -mental

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Path optimizations?
by MenTaLguY 24 Jan '07

24 Jan '07

Now that we've got all our path building going through one class (SVG::PathString), we've got the opportunity to do some syntactic optimizations if we want -- for instance, using H or V instead of L for axis-aligned segments. Think that's worthwhile? Any other optimizations you all would like to see? -mental

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Fwd: SVG icon proposal
by ryan lerch 23 Jan '07

23 Jan '07

just checked it up, and yes they did decide on a winner: http://svglogo.com/finalists.html cheers, Ryanlerch On 1/23/07, Jon Phillips <jon@...235...> wrote: > On Tue, 2007-01-23 at 08:45 +1000, ryan lerch wrote: > > on a somewhat different note, a couple of months back, rejon and > > myself whipped up a few idea for an SVG logo that could be used on the > > web similar to the RSS feed icon and such.... > > The ideas can be viewed on the openclipart libarary... > > > > http://openclipart.org/cchost/media/files/ryanlerch/1029 > > > > cheers, > > > > ryanlerch > > Didn't stelt and SVG crew come up with a final winner in that SVG logo > debate? Stelt, maybe you can comment... > > Jon > > > On 1/23/07, Alan Horkan <horkana@...44...> wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 J.B.C.Engelen@...1578... wrote: > > > > > > > Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:25:22 +0100 > > > > From: J.B.C.Engelen@...1578... > > > > To: fede.caceres@...400..., inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > > > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] SVG icon proposal > > > > > > > > Federico Caceres wrote: > > > > > You will find a preview of the icon along with an icon ".ico" > > > > > file available for download at the following address: > > > > > http://fredpyo.pandela.net/inkscape/index.htm > > > > > > > > I like it :) However, I would remove 'inkscape' to make it more generic. > > > > Maybe add a little color? > > > > > > I must agree, Text in an icon is not generally a good idea. > > > > > > The icon does have the advantage of looking quite simliar to those used by > > > Adobe Illustrator (although there is some reserve snobbery and some wont > > > like it for the same reason). > > > > > > The 16x16 size is unusable, it would be better to have a different simpler > > > icon for that size. > > > > > > -- > > > Alan > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > > > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your > > > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash > > > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Inkscape-devel mailing list > > > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your > > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash > > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > > _______________________________________________ > > Inkscape-devel mailing list > > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel > -- > Jon Phillips > > San Francisco, CA > USA PH 510.499.0894 > jon@...235... > http://www.rejon.org > > MSN, AIM, Yahoo Chat: kidproto > Jabber Chat: rejon@...896... > IRC: rejon@...897... > >

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command line operation to reduce document boundry
by ryan lerch 23 Jan '07

23 Jan '07

i am wondering if there is a command for the inkscape command line that allows an svg's document boundry to be reduced to fit tight around all the elements. If there is not one, it sure would be handy for us over at the openclipart library... cheers, ryanlerch

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