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toolbar menus
by unknown＠example.com 24 Oct '06

24 Oct '06

I just put in a first-cut of menus for the toolbar spinbuttons. You should be able to get them from the "more" menu when there is not enough room to show the spinbutton on the toolbar, and also by right-clicking on the spinbutton itself.

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[ANN] Linux Expo London 25/26th October
by Ben Fowler 24 Oct '06

24 Oct '06

Per http://www.linuxexpo.org.uk/, there will be a presentation at the .Org Village of the London Expo for Inkscape. Anyone based in the UK should consider visiting this event which is the major national Linux event of the year and is attended by many 'suits' but still has a slightly 'geeky' flavour. We should be alongside the Audio application Jokosher, and in the illustrious company of Gnome, Drupal and many others. Nearly every sizeable FLOSS project uses Inkscape for something even if only the creation of a humble logo or web page mock up and it a chance to speak to end-users even if rather an unrepresentative collection. See also http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Current_events . Ben

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character palette
by Alexandre Prokoudine 24 Oct '06

24 Oct '06

Greetings, A while ago Pierre-Luc Auclair and me created an illustrated proposal for advanced character palette in Scribus. I thought that since a user already requested this feature in Inkscape, somebody else could come around implementing it one day or another, so I copied it to the existing RFE: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=604309&aid=1306951&group_… So, if you are this one, feel free to use this proposal for a start ;-) Alexandre

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Failing to load .svg files on OSX
by Jasper 22 Oct '06

22 Oct '06

Hello all, I downloaded Inkscape for Mac OS X (I use 10.3.9) yesterday, and when I tried to open my saved inkscape files today, they didn't open. I joined the inkscape IRC chat and first ishmal and the JonCruz kindly helped identify the problem as a bug. JonCruz told me to report the bug, which I did (hopefully I did it right). He also said that if I asked politely, someone on the mailing list might be able to help me get a different build. If there's anyone who can help me getting a different build for 10.3.9, it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance, Jasper (woodman663)

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] 0.45 Release Plan
by Johan Engelen 22 Oct '06

22 Oct '06

> From: Bryce Harrington <bryce@...961...> > > Here is a release checklist for 0.45. I am not totally > caught up on what everyone's working on, so please fill me in > on what is missing or not up to date. > > - Axonometric grid must snap before its useful. Reorganize > grid classes and grid snapping stuff. > (Johan Engelen) > The next couple of weeks I don't have too much time to work on Inkscape :( sorry. At the moment the axonomgrid already snaps in X direction to the vertical gridlines. We have to think about how diagonal snapping should work (and in the process make diagonal guidelines :). Without too much hassle I should be able to make snapping work for the vertical gridlines and the points where 3 gridlines meet. After that I can debug the drawing code (zoom in close and see that the emphasis lines are bugged). The reorganisation of grids and gridsnapping gives me lots of frustration every time, because of the C-style gtk-classes :S sorry. So that'll have to wait for now, don't expect big changes on that matter soon. Cheers, Johan

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patches in the tracker
by Jon Phillips 22 Oct '06

22 Oct '06

Hi all, I went through all the patches in the tracker, applied what I could, made comments, assigned all to proper people, and now we wait for responses. Please, everyone take a look at what is still in there if you have special expertise required to accomplish some of the tasks: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=browse&group_id=93438&atid=604308 We got many cool little fixes like building on irix, tru64, thai language, many example illustrator files, file icons, etc from the patches...I'm on the patch tracker now to make sure we keep this thing flowing and get some new contributors (which keeping the queue clear helps majorly!) Jon -- Jon Phillips San Francisco, CA USA PH 510.499.0894 jon@...235... http://www.rejon.org MSN, AIM, Yahoo Chat: kidproto Jabber Chat: rejon@...896... IRC: rejon@...897...

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0.44 development status
by Bryce Harrington 22 Oct '06

22 Oct '06

Hi all, I've compiled the status for the 0.44 development checklist. I'm sure this is already out of date, so please email me updates and I'll update next weekend. Luckily, most everything people are working on sound like they could be wrapped up by the end of the month, however the quantity of things going on suggests that at least some efforts may require longer. Thus, I would like to propose the following schedule for getting to Feature Freeze mode: Now - Development continues on the ~24 items identified For non-0.44 feature work, please use branches May 1st - Achieve completion of at least 50% of the items. Work continues on the remaining 12. Work ceases on any other features. Notification to translators Begin focusing on bugfixes. Identify preliminary "must-fix" buglist May 15th - Feature Freeze All feature development work ends Finalize the "must-fix" buglist Issue pre-release packages for testing Focus on bug fixes, translations, & docs TBD - Hard Freeze Translation work finishes Final resolution on all "must-fix" bugs Issue one or more release candidates TBD - 0.44 Release How does this plan sound? Has anything been missed? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Inkscape 0.44 Development Checklist ICC Preview =========== Jon Cruz is working on this. Plans to have feature to a finished point for the release. * Update Release Notes CMYK support ============ Jon Cruz is working on this. Plans to have feature to a finished point for the release. * Update Release Notes ArtLibre named icon and cursor loading ====================================== Jon Cruz is working on this. Plans to have feature to a finished point for the release. * Update Release Notes Palette editing and per-file color sets ======================================= Jon Cruz is working on this. Plans to have feature to a finished point for the release. * Update Release Notes Tablet Bugs =========== MentalGuy is working on this. Says for the release he wants to get these resolved. Brush size adjustment on zoom toggle for calligraphic pen ========================================================= MentalGuy is working on this and plans to have it to a finished point for the release. Layer dialog ============ This is an important feature for the release, and on MentalGuy's todo list. However, work has been stuck getting Inkscape::LayerManager to compile due to a subtle detail with sigc::mem_fun(), and it's uncertain if there is sufficient time to unstick it and finish the feature prior to the release. Additional people's help may be needed here. [Beyond the memory issue, are there other aspects to the layer dialog that others could help with, such as UI work or coding helper features or whatever? --bh] * Update Release Notes Fit Canvas to Selection ======================= This is a feature ACSpike has been working on, and plans to complete for the release. The patch is here: http://www.ekips.org/comp/inkscape/inx/current.diff ODG Format Support ================== Ishmal is working on this currently. It basically works and is 90% done; the one issue at the moment that needs to be fixed for the release is that image rotations are backwards. [I think this might be fixed now. -- bh] DOM Support =========== Ishmal has been working on this. The newest code is all imported and builds. [Is there anything else needing to be done prior to release?] SIOX Support ============ Ishmal has this over half done. The code is all imported and building, and the selection mechanism is about done. Getting Inkscape and SIOX intercommunication working, but this can be built as a filter to potrace, which simplifies things. There are some transformation issues that need to be sorted out. Extensions ========== Ted is focusing on cleaning up extension parameters and felt he'd have this wrapped up by the end of the month. The plan is to have longer text (tool tips) available, and a few more widgets. More spacing in the autogui will be added to make it look nicer. * Ted reports there is an unverified bug in the ordering of the effects in the menu, to be investigated. The Extension Editor is further off, and not being planned for this release. Snapping ======== !!! More info needed - Carl and Mathieu (and maybe Ralf?) !!! * Need to fix the freeze when dragging multiple selected objects: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1429049&group_id=9… * Update Release Notes Rendering Performance Speedup ============================= Andrius has a very interesting rendering speedup patch. The feature is complete and accepted for the release. There is one known issue to address with scrolling, but Andrius feels this can be fixed. * Additional testing needs to be performed Screenshots =========== Scislac has taken this task on, and plans to have it done for the release. Two screenshots are done currently, and one more is in the works. There will be a call for more screenshots on the Deviant Art site. Tutorials ========= Calligraphy is mostly done, and a few of the other updates to the other tutorials have been drafted but that stuff definitely needs more work. Should be possible to have them done by the end of April. Calligraphic interface tweak ============================ Bulia is working on this change requested by MentalGuy, and feels they are minor and should have no trouble completing for the release. Windows font handling bugfixes (DONE) ============================== Richard (cyreve) has completed these bug fixes and updated the release notes. * Update ReleaseNotes Python Extensions on Windows ============================ !!! No owner has been identified for this task !!! Bulia reports that extensions that rely on PyXML still do not work on Windows. Due to the number of python extensions, this would be a major missing feature for Windows users. Text/Fonts UI ============= deadchip (aka Milosz Derezynski <internalerror at gmail dot com>) has written a font lister Gtkmm class, to enable re-use of the font list. He is planning to write a font picker dialog, and rewrite the current font picker to use the font _listing_ class. This enables using normal Gtk components (ListStore, etc.) for accessing the font info. He plans to have this work done by May 1st, or May 15th at the latest. Windows "dialogs on top" Patch for GTK ====================================== !!! No owner has been identified for this task !!! This is not exactly an Inkscape-specific problem, since the code changes wouldn't be to Inkscape, but it would be nice to have it finally fixed. This 0.44 release effort may be a good vehicle to tie it to, but we won't hold up the release if it doesn't get done. Scislac had contacted the author previously. * Send a reminder email to the author to find status on this Undo/Redo Dialog ================ !!! No owner has been identified for this task !!! We have a patch for this, but the author has not been reachable. Also needed is undo annotations. * Unless the author or another developer takes ownership of this patch within a week or so, perhaps the wise thing to do would be to incorporate it right after the release, to give maximum debugging time for 0.55. New File Chooser in Export ========================== We have a patch for this, but there were some thoughts of embedding it in the export dialog directly. In the spirit of "patch first, discuss later", the best approach may be to stick in the current patch for 0.44, see what folks think, and do the embedding later. Additional Release Tasks ======================== The following tasks will need to be done for the release, but are not required to be done prior to the Feature Freeze: * Identify the list of must-fix bugs. To keep the freeze phase from dragging out, we will need to be very choosy in what we allow to be must-fix bugs. * Set up a ReleaseChecklist wiki page or similar to keep track of The List. * Designate 2 release maintainers. * Keep and update the above list and encourage people to achieve completion of the items. * Notify translators to complete translation work * Wiki updates + Update Roadmap + Review/Update FAQ + Update InkscapeFeatures * PR / marketing efforts + Plan efforts + Draft press release + Finalize press release + Send out press release [rejon] * Packaging Bryce

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FYI: InkscapeLite in Puppy Linux
by Void 22 Oct '06

22 Oct '06

This is a courtesy email to let you guys know what has happened with "Inkscape Lite". Awhile back I received some help from this mail-list, to choose an appropriate version of Inkscape for use in Puppy Linux. I chose v0.36, which was the last that used C, not C++, and did not use GTKmm. I made some very small mods to the source and the result we named "InkscapeLite", or just "InkLite" and it appeared in Puppy version 2.10 and now in v2.11. Puppy home page: http://www.puppyos.com/ Download page: http://www.puppyos.com/download/downpage.htm The binary tarball for InkscapeLite is to be found at Ibiblio: http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/pupget_package… The source tarball is at: http://puptrix.org/sources/ We also have binary tarballs for the full Inkscape, v0.43 and it is interesting to compare sizes: Binary pkg Executable share/inkscape v0.43 shared gtkmm 3807K 1932K v0.43 static gtkmm 5619K 1932K v0.36.2 "InkLite" 1042K 928K ...interesting! Of course, the executables are all stripped. If anyone wants to do a bit of maintaining of InkLite, please do! Regards, Barry Kauler www.puppyos.com ________________________________________________ Dodo - an Official Sponsor of the 2006 FORMULA 1 (tm) Foster's Australian Grand Prix

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Thai Inkscape Translation?
by Jon Phillips 22 Oct '06

22 Oct '06

On Sun, 2006-10-22 at 20:00 +0100, Craig Marshall wrote: > Hi, > > I had trouble just now building Inkscape because there was a "th" file > missing in the po directory. I noticed on inkscape-cvs that you've made > a thai translation yesterday, could you have forgotten to add/commit, or > have I done something wrong? > > I'm in the middle of re-checking the entire repository out at the moment > (I have other problems!), but I managed to build the code before, after > removing th from the ALL_LINGUAS list in po/Makefile. > > Many thanks, > Craig Ooops...good catch, I added it and committed it...thanks! Jon -- Jon Phillips San Francisco, CA USA PH 510.499.0894 jon@...235... http://www.rejon.org MSN, AIM, Yahoo Chat: kidproto Jabber Chat: rejon@...896... IRC: rejon@...897...

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WEBFORM Install of new version 0.44.1 for Mac OS X
by lachaux 22 Oct '06

22 Oct '06

Message from Inkscape submission form Please note, that the submitter may not read this list. CC your answer to the submitter name: lachaux email: jl.lachaux@...1537... submitted the following: Enter your message or news here. Why this version don\'t install the French language ?

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stirring it up some more ... 0.45 ramp up?
by Jon Phillips 22 Oct '06

22 Oct '06

Bryce and others, what's the 411 on the Summer of Code projects and can we get a 0.45 out before the end of October? How does it feel y'all? What do you all think? Googl SoC'cers, how is your code in the codebase? Ideally, it would be great to ramp up this release as the commits are getting lower, message activity is lower on the lists and downloads are going down as well...thus, seems like a great time to put the press on...thoughts? Jon -- Jon Phillips San Francisco, CA USA PH 510.499.0894 jon@...235... http://www.rejon.org MSN, AIM, Yahoo Chat: kidproto Jabber Chat: rejon@...896... IRC: rejon@...897...

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google summer of code summit follow-up
by Jon Phillips 21 Oct '06

21 Oct '06

Hey all, here are my overdue notes about the google summer of code mentors summit meeting from last SAT, OCT 21, 9-5 PM. They picked up the tab for the event, hotel, etc: First Session: Screening Everyone seemed to have their own opinion and success, but it appeared overall that the experiences were similar. I talked about how to successfully get good students by setting up goals, possibly requiring a patch (like INkscape did), and requiring some initial barrier to get rid of the fakers. In the future, seems like it will be a requirement to get students to contact the community in order to become a summer of code student. I then attended the Google Code Hosting talk and heard from the lead developers who re-emphasized that the project is about co-existing with sf.net and others to increase the bus count. There is interoperability between the few...I'm anxious to try their service as it is very glitzy and will become a much bigger deal in the future I think. They also talked abuot Google BigTable and papers that anyone can read and how they should be looked at... After that I had lunch with several developers including Behdad Esfahdood, who leads the pango project and works for RedHat. He wants to get pango hooked into Crucible, so Bryce, you might want to follow up with him about this. I also hung out with Bart Massey who is professor at portland state and hosts freedesktop.org servers. I talked with him about some Open Clip Art Library business and other issues that we have in common. I am following up with him because he wants to and said it is really no problem to get us our own server that we can put Open Clip Art Library on...this addresses the lag we have been having on getting admin requests filled, which we talked about. All in all, he was very enthusiastic about OCAL and moving things over because we are pegging the FD.o server, ongoing security issues, and the need for more control over the server. Next up I participated in a session called "Google Summer of Research" trying to figure out how Google fits into academic research and vice-versa. Seems that Google is trying to sort this out as well, as they funded some academic projects that fit into the Summer of Code, but aren't code exactly...like the Mars Map project. Next up I went to the Poisonous People talk which underlined so many things I talk about about how to build community, keep it healthy, etc. The best part is what they speakers said are the most important commodities in Open Source: Focus and Attention. Thus, a project has to protect these at all costs (which further underlines the need to work in quiet spaces without tons of activity in the background). Here are the excellent slides from this talk, the highlight of the day: http://www.red-bean.com/dav/presentations/Poisonous-people.pdf I then helped lead and particpate in the Google Summer of Content presentation which included several Google-folk, including Leslie who led from Google's end under DiBona. She said they are putting big push on documentation, so this focus on "summer of content" is very important, as they want to have some more content-based commitment next summer. People kept trying to make this session more about documentation, but I reiterated that coding is more than just code and documentation by giving some nice soliloquys ;) http://www.red-bean.com/ospowiki/SummerOfContent Anyway, what is to come from this is that I am leading up following up on this with Karsten Wade, who headed up the Red Hat video project and works on Fedora Core documentation, etc. This is a very cool thing and will push hard to get all content licensed under CC licenses for this next summer, etc. Also, it will be great to push on getting more of the artists to work on tango, etc possibly...is anyone into this idea? Finally, the day had a wrap-up that answered a gazillion questions and kept the future of the program pragmatic. They had a very optimistic view and expect funding to continue. I started to zone off by that point in the day... The day seemed to be both a pressure valve and a great endeavour to try and involve the community in the project. Overall, it is a big success and we obviously should continue to work on it in the future. The best thing to come out of the event is the quick chat with Massey about OCAL, etc. My day also ended with getting to chat with Martin Sevior (abiword) about working closer between Inkscape, abiword, gnumeric, etc, to provide a better user experience and in the face of the closed community policies of OO.o. He and several other people brought up how unhappy they were with the printing functionality on Inkscape. I forgot about how this is such a need. Mostly, ppl. are stoked about Inkscape, but I underlined that we are working on this with Cairo, etc...who is working on this anyway? Seems like a pretty big area we need help on... All in all, I highly encourage more ppl. to attend this next year and bathe in the glory of free-ness at the google-plex (they flew ppl. from russia and other places for the one-day event). oh, I also met Mike Hearn (autopackage) who said he is going through Google's 3-month training program as a new employee. Insane! Pce! Jon -- Jon Phillips San Francisco, CA USA PH 510.499.0894 jon@...235... http://www.rejon.org MSN, AIM, Yahoo Chat: kidproto Jabber Chat: rejon@...896... IRC: rejon@...897...

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Blur todo
by bulia byak 21 Oct '06

21 Oct '06

On 10/2/06, Niko Kiirala <niko@...1267...> wrote: > Whoops, old info. Running inkscape in debugger, I just struck gold and > found the reason for this problem. (a rather stupid one, too, so I > won't go into further detail) Now fixed in SVN. Thanks! Finally the blur is usable with UI - please everyone check it out (it's in the Fill & Stroke dialog at bottom). Files saved with blur seem to render correctly in Batik though not in Firefox (which does not support filters yet). There are still things to be done. Here's what I have proposed, please everyone feel free to discuss and add to the list: - There is still some banding happening when I scroll the window with a blurred object so it scrolls in from beyond the screen. There's perhaps some error in determining how much the buffer needs to be enlarged so that the rendering strips tile up seamlessly. - When nothing selected, the blur slider should be grayed out, as is the Master opacity control. - I think it makes sense to set and display blur radius in % of the current object size (the diagonal of its bbox). Otherwise it's almost useless for small objects - a 0.01 increment is too much for them. I think 50% is a reasonable maximum value - any stronger blur just makes little difference visually. - If the radius set by the user is bigger than 10% which is the SVG standard filter area margin, you need to also set the corresponding larger margin, so that blur is never cut off. - Speaking of cleaning up console output: I see lots of (inkscape:7289): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: invalid cast from `(null)' to `SPGaussianBlur' on the console. - While not directly related to the slider, we need to make it so that the blur radius is scaled proportionally when the object is scaled. This can be coded similar to the way stroke width is now treated. Later we can add another button in the row of "scale with object" buttons on Selector controls bar for the blur (now it has buttons for stroke width, rounded rect corners, gradients and patterns). (I think I'll try to do this myself because I know this code.) -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] 0.45 release work (was Re: stirring it Inkscape-devel Digest, Vol 5, Issue 4
by Johan Engelen 20 Oct '06

20 Oct '06

> From: Bryce Harrington <bryce@...961...> > > Is anyone in the middle of any development work that must > be finished before we freeze? The axonometric grid still needs a lot of work. I have to reorganize grid classes and grid snapping stuff. I am on it, but haven't got that much time; I can definitely not complete it soon. Almost everytime I log on to IRC, someone mentions a bug/feature which I instantly want to fix to keep me from working on it! :P Shall I insert compiler directives to easily disable all axonometric grid code? (simply removing the UI radiobuttons to enable is easier but stupid :) Since this is the first release I am actively involved in, how exactly does it work? You freeze the code at a certain moment (by creating a 0.45 branch?); then new development can still continue on the SVN trunk, and bughunting is done on the 0.45 branch? Cheers, Johan

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WEBFORM Thot parle de vous
by Martine Jaudeau 20 Oct '06

20 Oct '06

Message from Inkscape submission form Please note, that the submitter may not read this list. CC your answer to the submitter name: Martine Jaudeau email: redaction@...1536... submitted the following: Bonjour, Les 28 900 abonnÃ©s professionnels de Thot, Nouvelles de la formation Ã distance, ont reÃ§u cette nouvelle rÃ©cemment : Inkscape : logiciel de dessin vectoriel Open source sous Linux, Mac et Windows. N\'a rien Ã envier aux logiciels commerciaux. Documentation en franÃ§ais fournie. Lien: http://thot.cursus.edu/rubrique.asp?no=24853 Machine translation in English: http://thot.cursus.edu/en/rubrique.asp?no=24853 Bonne continuation et au plaisir, Martine Jaudeau RÃ©dactrice en chef de Thot Thot - Nouvelles de la formation Ã distance - http://thot.cursus.edu Cursus - Le rÃ©pertoire de la formation en ligne - http://cursus.cursus.edu Abonnement : http://thot.cursus.edu/abonnement.asp Gestion de l\'abonnement : http://thot.cursus.edu/modif_infos.asp Ãdition intÃ©grale- Abonnement : http://thot.cursus.edu/rubrique.asp?no=19995

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toolbar refactoring
by unknown＠example.com 20 Oct '06

20 Oct '06

I've committed the first step in refactoring the toolbars. So far only the calligraphy toolbar has been updated. Andy's given it an initial shakedown, and suggested turning it on by default. If anyone wants to turn it off, adding this under the "options" group in preferences should do the trick: <group id="options"> ... <group id="stocktoolbars" value="0" /> Give it a spin and see how it works with the platforms, themese, etc.

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SVG validity wants a few minutes of your coding or SVG expertise time
by Ruud Steltenpool, http://svg.startpagina.nl 20 Oct '06

20 Oct '06

Open ClipArt and Inkscape do a pretty good job in promoting SVG. However quite a bit of content on the web that is called SVG, is actually only something that looks very much like SVG, but is not. "Not valid" breaks the principle of a standard. Therefore activities are started and some first code is hacked together to start changing that: http://openclipart.org/wiki/SVG_Testing#Previous_Tools Next to code detecting errors based on DTDs and later also RNGs there's also code that gives the content coder advice, also to help workaround viewer implementation errors. If you have some expertise in SVG or general XML, please invest a little bit of your valuable time. Thanks

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Scripting cchost
by Kevin Driscoll 19 Oct '06

19 Oct '06

Has anyone done a batch upload script for cchost? We have literally hundreds of lesson plans to put up on TeachForward over the next few months. Kevin On 10/16/06, Jon Phillips <jon@...235...> wrote: > On Mon, 2006-10-16 at 11:52 +0200, Luc Estebanez wrote: > > And what about uploading artwork directly from inkscape to open-clipart ? > > > > This would certainly push me to contribute ! Imagine : I have made some > > cool shapes (an animal for instance) as part of a poster I'm doing with > > inkscape. I just select these shapes and select "export to open-clipart", > > and it is included in the library... > > Yep, there are two strategies for this: > > 1.) there is a commandline script as part of ccHost, which we could use > to create an extension that would let inkscape upload to ccHost. > > 2.) Another approach which isn't so hacky is to help me add webdav > support to ccHost so we could simply use webdav in gnome-vfs (which > inkscape already supports) for posting up files > > 3.) Use the soon-to-come ccHost upload API for uploading to ccHost...I'm > cc'ing the cchost devel. mailing list on this one, so if anyone wants to > track this, please join the cchost mailing list... > > > Actually, I think with this functionality, you would see a surge in > > contributions coming from all the people not doing clipart, but producing > > artwork a part of which can be considered as a clip-art (and that's > > basically every inkscape user, every time he uses inkscape) > > Yes, I completely completely agree! Would you like to help with this? It > would be great to get more help :) > > Jon > > > best, > > > > luc > > > > > On Sun, 2006-10-15 at 09:32 -0700, John Cliff wrote: > > >> we had a google SOC project last year that worked on pretty much > > >> exatcly this functionality, except it was done as an external utility > > >> that linked in through the extensions code. > > >> > > >> http://developer.berlios.de/projects/ocalhelper/ > > > > > > Yep, I would definitely use this code as a starting point, because it > > > worked prior to using ccHost and allowed one to pull from the website > > > and/or from a locally installed package. > > > > > > Thus, now the way to go is to use ccHost because there is an API for > > > doing just what you are hoping, called the Sample Pool API: > > > http://ccmixter.org/media/viewfile/pool_api_doc.xml > > > > > > This will make doing what you are hoping very easy. > > > > > > Bryce really summed up how to tackle this project and I think that if > > > you take a look at and/or use the previous summer of code code, then you > > > will be on the fast track to getting this done. > > > > > > Please also look at how our SoC student from last summer made a > > > standalone app with python and then created an extension so we could > > > just make use of what already exists...this will help this be usable by > > > other apps. > > > > > > If you are interested in building on the previous student's project, I > > > would like to move that over to Inkscape SVN to progress it and help to > > > get more developer's eyes onto the project. Bryce, do you think this is > > > cool? > > > > > > Michael, this sounds like an awesome project and I will help out however > > > I can :) > > > > > > Jon > > > > > >> --- Michael Moore <stuporglue@...400...> wrote: > > >> > > >> > > While neat, an "Import Clipart" would be a duplication of a current > > >> > > functionality, that is, drag and drop from a nautilus/konqueror > > >> > window that > > >> > > is connected to the clipart internet resource. > > >> > > > >> > That is partially true, there are definately currently ways to import > > >> > clipart that work. The new functionality would be in ease of use, and > > >> > integration with OCAL. > > >> > > > >> > Ease of use: > > >> > > > >> > If you're working with Inkscape full screen, you have to resize and > > >> > move windows to drag and drop import clipart. Drag and drop import > > >> > doesn't seem to work with OSX since Inkscape is running in X11 and > > >> > Finder is an native program. > > >> > > > >> > To non-technical Windows users, I imagine it's slightly confusing to > > >> > import OCAL work since you have to decide which file based on the > > >> > PNG, > > >> > then import the SVG of the same name -- I don't think that this is > > >> > very user friendly. > > >> > > > >> > Integration with OCAL: > > >> > > > >> > Instead of thinking of the OCAL library as a bunch of nested folders > > >> > of SVGs mixed with PNGs and text files, the user can just think of it > > >> > as "Import Clipart --> Browse categories". Currently when using > > >> > drag-and-drop importing, I have to double check that I'm not > > >> > importing > > >> > the PNG since I get both thumbnails (in Nautilus). > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > So, yes, there is some duplication, but I think there may also be > > >> > some > > >> > real gains in functionality and ease of use as well. > > >> > > > >> > Michael > > >> > -- > > >> > Michael Moore > > >> > ------------------------- > > >> > Creative photography for any occasion > > >> > http://elementsbycaroline.com > > >> > Full quality proofs > > >> > Online album > > >> > > > >> > > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, > > >> > security? > > >> > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your > > >> > job easier > > >> > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache > > >> > Geronimo > > >> > > > >> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> > Inkscape-devel mailing list > > >> > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> __________________________________________________ > > >> Do You Yahoo!? > > >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > >> http://mail.yahoo.com > > >> > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, > > >> security? > > >> Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > > >> easier > > >> Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache > > >> Geronimo > > >> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Inkscape-devel mailing list > > >> Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel > > >> > > > -- > > > Jon Phillips > > > > > > San Francisco, CA > > > USA PH 510.499.0894 > > > jon@...235... > > > http://www.rejon.org > > > > > > MSN, AIM, Yahoo Chat: kidproto > > > Jabber Chat: rejon@...896... > > > IRC: rejon@...897... > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > > > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > > > easier > > > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo > > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Inkscape-devel mailing list > > > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel > > > > > > > > > > -- > Jon Phillips > > San Francisco, CA > USA PH 510.499.0894 > jon@...235... > http://www.rejon.org > > MSN, AIM, Yahoo Chat: kidproto > Jabber Chat: rejon@...896... > IRC: rejon@...897... > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Cctools-cchost mailing list > Cctools-cchost(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/cctools-cchost >

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Inkscape for OS X on a demo CD in SVM Mac
by jiho 19 Oct '06

19 Oct '06

just a quick message to let you know that the OS X version of Inkscape is included in the demo CD that ships with SVM Mac[1] this month. SVM Mac is a french magazine specialized on the Mac (as the names says... SVM stands for "Science et Vie Micro" by the way). It is presented as "A clone of Illustrator... but free". I hope people trying it will see that is is much more than a clone. http://www.svmmac.fr/ JiHO --- http://jo.irisson.free.fr/

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LWN Article on SFC w/ Inkscape mention
by Bryce Harrington 19 Oct '06

19 Oct '06

LWN is running an article right now about the Software Freedom Conservancy, explaining what it's for and why to join. They mention that Inkscape is a part of it. http://lwn.net/Articles/204870/ Since it is subscriber-only, I've attached the article for those not subscribing to LWN. Bryce

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your change to Makefile.mingw.common
by bulia byak 18 Oct '06

18 Oct '06

Bob, after this change http://svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/inkscape/inkscape/trunk/Makefile.mingw.co… Inkscape fails to run on Windows 2000, saying "cannot find entry point freeaddrinfo in ws2_32.dll". I tested this on two different builds made by ACSpike and Scislac. Please fix or revert. Thanks! -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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Investor.com Blockbuster performance
by Clare clothbound 17 Oct '06

17 Oct '06

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Structure to store Z-ordered shapes
by Jean Morissette 17 Oct '06

17 Oct '06

Hi all, I would like to know what structure do you use to store shapes in Z-order. It seems to me that a simple linked list would perform poorly for a large number of shapes, since it has a time complexity of O(n) to find the index (the z-value) of a shape. So, I was thinking at two other structures. The first one would be similar to a linked list except that each node would store its own z value. However, since the Z order is only a "less than or equal to" relation, Z values don't need to be equal to their index in the list or even be continuous. So, this class would not waste time to reuse the indices from removed/moved shapes. Operations like add-last, bring-to-front, send-to-back would allocate a new Z-value each time they are called. And operations like remove would not adjust the indices of the other nodes. So, all operations would perform in O(1) time cost! However there is a disavantage of not resuing indice. This class cannot perform an illimited number of some operations (because these operations allocate a new Z value each time they are called). However, this should not be a limitation in real world applications, because that I would be surprised that a user performs more than 2^31 operations (for an integer z value). Another disavantage is that it's not possible to know the real value of the Z order; a Z value makes sence only by comparing it with another. The second structure doesn't have these limitations but it's more complex to implement and a little bit less performant. This structure is a balanced tree where the predicate to insert a node is the in-order index in the tree. The main idea is that the index of a node (thus it's Z value) can be computed by traversing the tree upward to the root, thus in O(log n). So, the nodes don't have to keep its own Z value, and don't need to adjust them. All other operations perform in amortized O(1), since we may need to make some rotations to balance the tree, which should be really fast in practice. Note that these structures assume that a shape *is* a node, i.e. having a reference on a shape means that we have a reference on the node. Thus, we don't need to find the node corresponding to a given shape. What so you think of these structures? What structure InkScape actually uses? Thanks for your comments, Jean

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Import Clipart function
by Jon Phillips 16 Oct '06

16 Oct '06

On Mon, 2006-10-16 at 11:52 +0200, Luc Estebanez wrote: > And what about uploading artwork directly from inkscape to open-clipart ? > > This would certainly push me to contribute ! Imagine : I have made some > cool shapes (an animal for instance) as part of a poster I'm doing with > inkscape. I just select these shapes and select "export to open-clipart", > and it is included in the library... Yep, there are two strategies for this: 1.) there is a commandline script as part of ccHost, which we could use to create an extension that would let inkscape upload to ccHost. 2.) Another approach which isn't so hacky is to help me add webdav support to ccHost so we could simply use webdav in gnome-vfs (which inkscape already supports) for posting up files 3.) Use the soon-to-come ccHost upload API for uploading to ccHost...I'm cc'ing the cchost devel. mailing list on this one, so if anyone wants to track this, please join the cchost mailing list... > Actually, I think with this functionality, you would see a surge in > contributions coming from all the people not doing clipart, but producing > artwork a part of which can be considered as a clip-art (and that's > basically every inkscape user, every time he uses inkscape) Yes, I completely completely agree! Would you like to help with this? It would be great to get more help :) Jon > best, > > luc > > > On Sun, 2006-10-15 at 09:32 -0700, John Cliff wrote: > >> we had a google SOC project last year that worked on pretty much > >> exatcly this functionality, except it was done as an external utility > >> that linked in through the extensions code. > >> > >> http://developer.berlios.de/projects/ocalhelper/ > > > > Yep, I would definitely use this code as a starting point, because it > > worked prior to using ccHost and allowed one to pull from the website > > and/or from a locally installed package. > > > > Thus, now the way to go is to use ccHost because there is an API for > > doing just what you are hoping, called the Sample Pool API: > > http://ccmixter.org/media/viewfile/pool_api_doc.xml > > > > This will make doing what you are hoping very easy. > > > > Bryce really summed up how to tackle this project and I think that if > > you take a look at and/or use the previous summer of code code, then you > > will be on the fast track to getting this done. > > > > Please also look at how our SoC student from last summer made a > > standalone app with python and then created an extension so we could > > just make use of what already exists...this will help this be usable by > > other apps. > > > > If you are interested in building on the previous student's project, I > > would like to move that over to Inkscape SVN to progress it and help to > > get more developer's eyes onto the project. Bryce, do you think this is > > cool? > > > > Michael, this sounds like an awesome project and I will help out however > > I can :) > > > > Jon > > > >> --- Michael Moore <stuporglue@...400...> wrote: > >> > >> > > While neat, an "Import Clipart" would be a duplication of a current > >> > > functionality, that is, drag and drop from a nautilus/konqueror > >> > window that > >> > > is connected to the clipart internet resource. > >> > > >> > That is partially true, there are definately currently ways to import > >> > clipart that work. The new functionality would be in ease of use, and > >> > integration with OCAL. > >> > > >> > Ease of use: > >> > > >> > If you're working with Inkscape full screen, you have to resize and > >> > move windows to drag and drop import clipart. Drag and drop import > >> > doesn't seem to work with OSX since Inkscape is running in X11 and > >> > Finder is an native program. > >> > > >> > To non-technical Windows users, I imagine it's slightly confusing to > >> > import OCAL work since you have to decide which file based on the > >> > PNG, > >> > then import the SVG of the same name -- I don't think that this is > >> > very user friendly. > >> > > >> > Integration with OCAL: > >> > > >> > Instead of thinking of the OCAL library as a bunch of nested folders > >> > of SVGs mixed with PNGs and text files, the user can just think of it > >> > as "Import Clipart --> Browse categories". Currently when using > >> > drag-and-drop importing, I have to double check that I'm not > >> > importing > >> > the PNG since I get both thumbnails (in Nautilus). > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > So, yes, there is some duplication, but I think there may also be > >> > some > >> > real gains in functionality and ease of use as well. > >> > > >> > Michael > >> > -- > >> > Michael Moore > >> > ------------------------- > >> > Creative photography for any occasion > >> > http://elementsbycaroline.com > >> > Full quality proofs > >> > Online album > >> > > >> > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, > >> > security? > >> > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your > >> > job easier > >> > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache > >> > Geronimo > >> > > >> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Inkscape-devel mailing list > >> > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel > >> > > >> > >> > >> __________________________________________________ > >> Do You Yahoo!? > >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > >> http://mail.yahoo.com > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, > >> security? > >> Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > >> easier > >> Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache > >> Geronimo > >> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Inkscape-devel mailing list > >> Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel > >> > > -- > > Jon Phillips > > > > San Francisco, CA > > USA PH 510.499.0894 > > jon@...235... > > http://www.rejon.org > > > > MSN, AIM, Yahoo Chat: kidproto > > Jabber Chat: rejon@...896... > > IRC: rejon@...897... > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > > easier > > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > > _______________________________________________ > > Inkscape-devel mailing list > > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel > > > > > -- Jon Phillips San Francisco, CA USA PH 510.499.0894 jon@...235... http://www.rejon.org MSN, AIM, Yahoo Chat: kidproto Jabber Chat: rejon@...896... IRC: rejon@...897...

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vancouver area connection
by Jon Phillips 16 Oct '06

16 Oct '06

<slightly-offTopic /> Hello all, do any of you on this list live in the Vancouver area? I'm going to be heading up to Vancouver in DEC and am trying to make contacts... Thanks! Jon -- Jon Phillips San Francisco, CA USA PH 510.499.0894 jon@...235... http://www.rejon.org MSN, AIM, Yahoo Chat: kidproto Jabber Chat: rejon@...896... IRC: rejon@...897...

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