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Mandrake 10 rpm & autopackage issues
by Lucas Vieites 23 Jul '04

23 Jul '04

Hi, if I get the src.rpm and rebuild it to get an rpm for my Mandrake 10 system, is that usable for other Mandrake 10 users? Just asking in case it's useful for the download area. Thanks, PS. I tried to install the autopackage version but I got an error: err:waitForHELLO() failed to synchronize with front end: UHOH VERSION_MISMATCH It downloaded version 0.6 of autopackage an then issued this error. I had installed a cvs version of the inkscape autopackage before. If someone would like to get the full output after the ./inkscape-0.39.package command I can send it to the list. -- Lucas 'Basurero' Vieites Dept. Desarrollo <lucas@...212...> Asix Informática <http://www.asixinformatica.com/> Tel/Fax: +34 986 54 26 98

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0.39 -> 0.40 + OLS
by Bryce Harrington 23 Jul '04

23 Jul '04

Hi All, With Inkscape 0.39 out the door, our next target is 0.40. Notice we're at #17 on SourceForge now :-) The 0.40 development process looks like it'll be pretty much like 0.39. We have a principle development focus - conversion to Gtkmm - plus as much freeform development as can be squeezed into the time we'll have. Gtkmm conversion looks like a lot of work, but then so did Pango, and look how swiftly the team knocked that out. ;-) I don't know if we need "a plan" for the Gtkmm conversion; if we do, then within a few weeks we can do so. Looking forward beyond 0.40, there are other big changes to come that we can start preparing for presently. The Extensions work is one example; the proposed spec will hopefully provide a starting point for this. Another example is the eventual rewrite of the style class and creation of a more complete CSS implementation for Inkscape. I'm also looking forward to seeing what we can do with improved testing systems and what potential Cairo holds. These are just a few of the cool things waiting in the wings. Speaking of Cairo, I've sat in on the two talks by Keith Packard and Jim Gettys on the rearchitecture of X. Keith did his presentation in SVG, but his Cairo-based viewer was very slow rendering it, compared with inkview. :-) A lot of interesting work is being done with X these days. In addition to Cairo (which they're hoping to see more apps pick up and use), they're also looking at LittleCMS (or something derived thereof) as a universal color management system (the one currently in X is very broken and nobody uses it.) As to my own presentation, if anyone's interested, it's here: http://developer.osdl.org/bryce/ols_testing_presentation/ Bryce

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Release status
by Bryce Harrington 23 Jul '04

23 Jul '04

On Thursday 22 July 2004 12:04 am, Daniel DC-az wrote: > I was just wondering where in the release process are we? It wasn't > totally clear to me whether or not it is already official and to be > announced in the wild. Is it? May I now? Yes, sorry, I meant to put out an announcement about this but connectivity here at OLS has been rather iffy. Now that all the packages are available and announcements have gone out, we're back to normal development. > The download page states that many packages are "coming soon", yet they > are in SF's filelist. Yes, that needs to be updated. I won't be able to work on the website until Sunday at the earliest, so if someone else could update it, that would be most appreciated. By the way, I'm wondering if we need to really put some work into making the download page quite specific. In the past, a link to the SF download page was probably sufficient, but now with fink, autopackage, dev autobuilds, etc. I am thinking we probably need a carefully laid out page pointing at the various packages people need. However, my first cut at doing so actually made it worse -- I'd very much appreciate it if someone with a good idea for how to make the download page clearer could come up with a scheme for us. > Also, Bryce, I just noticed today that I sat in front of the computer, > the MDK91 RPM shows Inkscape in the "Graphics" menu, yet MDK91 uses > "Multimedia -> Graphics" for that. Hmm, yes, you're right. When I next get a chance I'll updated it. Since this is distro dependent, we may need to figure out a way to variabalize this in the spec files. > I'm still receiving a lot of hits in the bleeding-edge autobuilds, but > they are all 0.39rc* builds. Should I put a note about SF there? Let's try to figure out what is causing people to select that file instead of the official build, and adjust links or whatever to promote the correct one. > Just for the statistics... > > # (egrep LATEST\|.nkscape-?[0-9]{10}\. /var/log/httpd/access_log | cut > -f 10 -d \ | grep -v \- | tr \\n \+ && echo 0) | bc > 34028559086 > > # egrep LATEST\|.nkscape-?[0-9]{10}\. /var/log/httpd/access_log | wc >-l > 4488 > > That is 34,028,559,086 bytes with 4488 hits (not including "C la >carte" > files.) Yow! That's pretty cool. :-) Bryce

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Re: Mandrake 10 rpm & autopackage issues
by Bryce Harrington 23 Jul '04

23 Jul '04

On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 10:13:45 +0200, Lucas Vieites wrote: Yes, if you create mdk10 rpm's, these can be added to the file tracker; I'll be happy to upload it for you if you send it my way (might be a couple days tho). Make sure to update the Groups variable in the spec file to install into Multimedia:Graphics instead of Applications:Graphics. On Thursday 22 July 2004 9:30 am, Mike Hearn wrote: > Please remove all trace of autopackage from your system before trying this > version. Previous versions of autopackage installed from the release > tarballs in the usual fashion will be upgraded for you - obviously we > can't do that with CVS installs, and this is what has gone wrong here. Can you write some documentation for "how to remove all traces of autopackage"? I think this issue was what was screwing up Carl's box too, but it was not apparent what to do to remove all the previously installed stuff. The docs would be quite helpful. > By the way, the Inkscape page still claims that autopackage is only for > "modern RPM based distros" ... there's nothing inherently RPM about > autopackage. We can update this as the downloads page gets fixed up. I wrote this because it seems to me that this is where autopackage's killer feature is. For Gentoo and Debian systems, the dependency resolution mechanisms are solid enough that autopackage may not be as necessary on those distros, IMHO. However yes we should clarify the download page to be more factually accurate. > I'd like to thank the Inkscape developers for bearing with us while we > iron out the teething problems here, I'm sure it must be annoying for > those who aren't interested in packaging to have the list filled up > with this stuff. It's appreciated though! I think the way we should think about autopackage is as an investment in our future - both for Inkscape and for Open Source in general. It addresses that big white elephant that few like to think about - it's painful for new Linux users to install ordinary apps like Inkscape. I think Autopackage is going to lead the way to inspiring the next generation of Linux installation technology. It's cool that Inkscape can help raise awareness for Autopackage while at the same time serving its own self-interest in making it easier for people to install the program. Anyway, so thanks back to you guys - keep up the good work! :-) Bryce

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] RFEs
by Gazal, Geraud (MED) 23 Jul '04

23 Jul '04

> On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 04:41:02PM +0200, Gazal, Geraud (MED) wrote: > > My idea, in the long term, is to identify let's say 20 main > categories, > > sort/group the RFEs in those categories and attribute a > score to each > > category according to the number of RFEs it contains and > their priority. > > I've added each of the suggested high-level groups. I've started > marking, commenting, and scoring the "build" ones... Wow, did not think it would be 'accepted' as is. :)

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Fwd: AW: [Inkscape-devel] win32 installer
by Daniel Díaz 23 Jul '04

23 Jul '04

Hello. Adib has just uploaded the Win32 installer here: http://cortijodelrio.net/~inkscape/win32/Inkscape-0.39-1.win32.exe Someone with CVS/SF access can now grab this one and the NSI script. Greetings! Daniel Díaz yosoy@...31... -----Forwarded Message----- From: "Taraben, Adib" <taraben.a@...50...> To: Daniel Díaz <al590349@...30...> Subject: AW: [Inkscape-devel] win32 installer Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 12:05:45 +0200 Done, thx. Cane someone also commit the installer script to the cvs? ________________________________________________________________________ Von: Daniel Díaz [mailto:al590349@...30...] Gesendet: Fr 23.07.2004 11:50 An: Taraben, Adib Betreff: Re: [Inkscape-devel] win32 installer Hi, Adib. You can upload it to my site temporarily. FTP to cortijodelrio.net, with ****/**** as username/password, and upload it somewhere in the public_html directory. After that, it won't be a problem for any developer to download it and push it to SourceForge. If you have any further comments, just drop me a line. Greetings! Daniel Díaz yosoy@...31... On Fri, 2004-07-23 at 04:41, Taraben, Adib wrote: > Hi All, > > I did an win32 installer. > > I took the installer script from the CVS changed the 38 to 39. > Attached the script. > > But I only have a geocities account that allows me upload-chunks up to > 5MB. The installer is 11 MB. > > How to proceed? > > HTH, > > Adib.

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RFEs
by Gazal, Geraud (MED) 23 Jul '04

23 Jul '04

In order to make my mind on the functionalities and the software, i've spent a few moments on the RFEs. -> Read them, sorted, grouped (etc etc) It's far from perfect, but if it can help someone as it has helped, here it is. It can maybe help some of you removing the redundancy within the list of open RFEs ( especially layers, node editing...) My idea, in the long term, is to identify let's say 20 main categories, sort/group the RFEs in those categories and attribute a score to each category according to the number of RFEs it contains and their priority. A kind of "voice of the user". Plus doing the same things with bugs. So feel free to submit me any idea of categorisation (knowing that sorting this kind of items will never be perfect) Regards, Matiphas * Build/Compile/Dependancies/Code/Design [ 840075 ] BUILD: Mac OS X release [ 979876 ] Better ID handling on object copy [ 926588 ] Disable autogeneration of ID [ 979481 ] unique X11 window names [ 972981 ] New File Chooser (file open save as dialog) [ 968647 ] gnome/gtk commandline options [ 968644 ] X display cmdline options [ 967753 ] Comments/Suggestions from USERS magazine (Argentina) [ 956520 ] remove unaccessible files from "recent" list [ 956476 ] Add a build date to the config.in ? [ 933684 ] merge identical patterns/gradients/markers [ 933555 ] Win32 Installer "no GTK" option. [ 902254 ] [win32] Install to Program Files [ 902252 ] [win32] Install shortcut into menu for Inkscape [ 892670 ] "veto" callback system for SPRepr change notifications [ 874493 ] qtgtk support. [ 864252 ] EASY: detect running inkscape process before starting a new [ 859134 ] Ugly Gtk triangle border [ 986052 ] -e option must overwrite without asking <--************************************************************************* ***************************--> * Content [ 862701 ] PALETTE: Object Library [ 966771 ] Stock gradients [ 956035 ] A set of templates [ 927912 ] library of objects [ 991044 ] Default options / Template <--************************************************************************* ***************************--> * Desktop integration [ 989220 ] How can i export to illustrator? Copy/paste [ 856082 ] Viewer component [ 856083 ] Editor component (Bonobo) [ 981785 ] gimp & inkscape [ 862655 ] GIMP: Integration with INKSCAPE [ 862692 ] GIMP: Import gradients [ 909735 ] Support for copy/paste with system clipboard [ 950969 ] INPUT: Wacom Tablet + Pressure Sensitivity [ 984964 ] Wacom support [ 965568 ] Drag images from nautilus to inkscape window to import it [ 974117 ] Image Cropping [ 978465 ] cmdline options for initial settings [ 981785 ] gimp & inkscape <--************************************************************************* ***************************--> * Ideas of extensions and plugins [ 862657 ] PLUGIN Support [ 984081 ] Auto-updated, visible timestamps in drawings [ 982795 ] Autojoin tool [ 967843 ] Add Bone System [ 967312 ] Add a blend Tool [ 938707 ] please provide a plugin for image/svg-xml [ 925198 ] detect/bundle Frontline [ 897638 ] Node fillet / chamfer tools [ 880120 ] NEW TOOL: Cloud Tool [ 862752 ] TOOL: rounding object, or filter [ 862750 ] Standard shapes + Algorithmic Shapes + Math Formulas [ 862723 ] OBJECTS: bevel for object properties [ 989884 ] Mesh - CAD like [ 862751 ] TOOL: Tangential circles/curves and lines [ 864292 ] Measure tool [ 844329 ] Dimensions <--************************************************************************* ***************************--> * Fonts [ 863323 ] FONTS: embedded SVG font support [ 932954 ] SVG Fonts [ 980840 ] Add support fot math fonts (greek symbols) <--************************************************************************* ***************************--> * Import/Export (maybe handled as extension/plugin in the future ?) [ 993210 ] Exporting to .jpeg [ 840345 ] EXPORT DIALOG: NEED EPS, PDF, SWF, etc [ 847365 ] Import SVG embedded in other XML [ 863383 ] EXPORT: xfig format [ 864110 ] IMPORT: OpenOffice.org Draw import [ 864260 ] IMPORT/EXPORT: PDF [ 865058 ] EXPORTING: Ability to export 16-bit PNGs and OTHER PNG adds [ 899574 ] Inkscape should embed bitmaps for gradients in PS [ 922750 ] Inkscape ignores file extentions when exporting a file [ 942328 ] relative image paths instead of absolute [ 957916 ] Import/Export Encapsulated PostScript format [ 977339 ] default export image name for not-saved drawings [ 840030 ] CorelDraw Importer/Viewer (.cdr files) <--************************************************************************* ***************************--> * Object editing [ 969466 ] navigation through object in object properties menu [ 984961 ] Apply transformation to duplicate - Freehand/Calligraphic [ 965516 ] Abilty to draw splines [ 862725 ] CALLIGRAPHIC TOOL: units must be added (editable properties) [ 863375 ] CALLIGRAPHY TOOL: Tool Angle [ 902216 ] Freehand tool needs to work smoother [ 952134 ] A tool and a key [ 856085 ] curve editing and right click menu - Gradient [ 862708 ] GRADIENTS: improvements, and a bit more [ 979870 ] Gradient editor window does not show the gradients name [ 971415 ] gradient features [ 927490 ] non linear (exponential) gradient [ 897207 ] Gradient edit in-picture [ 863329 ] Gradient Angle and Aspect Ratio [ 986762 ] gradient and opacity - Marker [ 990860 ] Markers reference points should be moved [ 952769 ] MARKERS: Can't change marker color with line color [ 970270 ] UI: Browsing markers is too slow/inefficient [ 942486 ] make size of markers settable - Node [ 994975 ] Node transform [ 862691 ] NODE EDITING: Dragging curve segment [ 862753 ] DIALOG: Node Orientation [ 863731 ] NODE EDITING: Display start/end node [ 865050 ] NODE EDITING: properties, align nodes vert./horiz. [ 880110 ] TOOLS/NODE EDITING: Add/subtract nodes + scissor tool [ 898437 ] closed/unclosed state of path unclear [ 902731 ] Average nodes (node alignment) (w/screenshot) [ 903328 ] Snap to node/segment [ 907478 ] RFE: snap to nodes of existing objects [ 910817 ] NODE EDITING: Scaling, Mirroring, Rotation of Node Groups [ 933700 ] speed up node editing [ 949457 ] Node editing with mouse + layers [ 957936 ] selecting nodes as proper objects [ 976167 ] UI improvements and Node aligning [ 839065 ] Node Editing: Selecting nodes by clicking on path segments - Pattern [ 870837 ] pattern fills [ 980050 ] Repeat options in Fill and stroke dialogue for pattern fill - Shape [ 979490 ] "Whole object fill only" option [ 862731 ] TRANSFORMATION PREF: apply to several objects independently [ 863734 ] GUIDES: Copy+mirror with guides [ 863735 ] GUIDES: Snapping for 'shape editing nodes' [ 896514 ] Paint Brush / Eraser tool ala flash [ 926611 ] Circles and ellipses [ 936996 ] Group circles [ 954808 ] clockwise rotation of objects [ 957009 ] Splitting overlapping objects [ 856086 ] drag and copy - Text [ 986611 ] subscript, superscript [ 863325 ] TEXT bounding box and auto-wrap [ 863327 ] TEXT: Convert text to correctly-filled curve objects [ 865040 ] TEXT: Text on Path, in shape [ 952894 ] Text Effects like in Illustrator [ 966367 ] "Run length" text layout setting [ 857374 ] TEXT: Need support for text spacing properties <--************************************************************************* ***************************--> * Printing (maybe handled as extension/plugin in the future ?) [ 921531 ] Printing prints squares for gradients [ 965791 ] CUPS printing [ 967795 ] Multi-page printing <--************************************************************************* ***************************--> * SVG [ 949754 ] SVG Interactivity [ 862741 ] XML: put metadata in a metadata element; make valid [ 862744 ] SVG: animation [ 863380 ] Implementation of SVG Filters, specifically BLUR [ 864870 ] SCRIPTING: Sodipodi Script! or ECMAScript Support [ 864875 ] MASKING, or CLIPPING (CLIPPING PATH) NEEDED [ 865060 ] SVG: Implement support for data: URLs [ 893812 ] hyperlinking [ 899194 ] these svg dont render correctly (work in Abode SVG Viewer) [ 908792 ] NEW TOOL: Cloning/Spraypaint of Objects [ 909368 ] Less verbose markup, dont write unnecessary styles [ 944377 ] Inkscape .svg > plain .svg conversion tool [ 846335 ] allign coordinate systems - Styles [ 982095 ] CSS Support [ 862705 ] PALETTE: Object style chooser for primary toolbar [ 955788 ] Support Cascading Style Sheets [ 856716 ] STYLES: Giving styles a name and palette <--************************************************************************* ***************************--> * UI [ 994180 ] window size [ 863737 ] Snap indicator+ snap/guides dialog/palette [ 864868 ] UI: magnifying tool cursor, stock icons [ 865046 ] Inkscape REMOTE [ 899001 ] Use stock icons from Gnome [ 902217 ] Simpler process for theming icons [ 950128 ] A window for editing dash arrays [ 950537 ] Zoom out with right mouse button [ 959819 ] Tabbed interface for multiple documents [ 965592 ] fit drawing to page/fit page to drawing [ 981243 ] Allow to select units for displaying coordinates [ 992070 ] Interface Quirk [ 993367 ] UI for SVG accessibility features [ 862715 ] Initial value for "apply to:" in object style dialog - Dialog/Toolbars [ 995066 ] UI improvement [ 862662 ] Tear-off + dockable Menus (like gimp2) [ 874729 ] dialogs are too big [ 897187 ] Persistent/Custom Toolbars [ 978586 ] Abilily to choose font size for menu and dialogue [ 981544 ] [Win32] : dialogs always on top [ 992082 ] Tabbed Browsing Anyone? [ 838693 ] saving toolbars positions - Guide/Grid/Ruler [ 964668 ] Setting Zero Points on rulers [ 874731 ] GUIDES: Placement, Transformation [ 896820 ] "Lock guides" option [ 900270 ] isometric GRID type [ 903432 ] Snap selection to grid command [ 903437 ] Guides snap to grid [ 933675 ] double click on ruler opens guides dialog [ 933707 ] multi color grid [ 948307 ] guidelines rotate&clone [ 963828 ] gridlock instead of the cursor [ 859982 ] Inverted ruler co-ordinate system [ 928027 ] advanced snap features [ 933706 ] press alt to not snap - Lock [ 902729 ] Make insensitive/lock/unlock [ 979276 ] A "Unlock all" option [ 984633 ] A way to unlock a locked object - Palette/Color [ 994177 ] CMYK 0 - 100 not 0 - 255 [ 859147 ] Color Palettes [ 864545 ] HOWTO for Color Picker [ 865053 ] COLOR Preview (EASY ADD) [ 898822 ] wishlist: Palette Tool [ 903531 ] Makeshift palette [ 924655 ] user-defined named colors in fill/stroke dialog [ 969371 ] Named colors combo [ 973774 ] ability to copy color from dropper to clipboard [ 979214 ] a pot of painting tool [ 982981 ] Extended Color options [ 988419 ] Color picker doesn't bring color into gradient editor [ 989939 ] color components should be independent [ 856080 ] PALETTE: custom color swatches - Preferences [ 973295 ] storing main window size [ 932676 ] Save Preferences [ 937137 ] Set document defaults in preferences. [ 953325 ] pixel units [ 857373 ] PREFERENCES: New document setup prefs - Preview [ 985323 ] wireframe preview [ 862746 ] Document window icon [ 848230 ] editable viewBox, SVGs without width="" or [ 864290 ] Navigation window [ 955196 ] preveiw in file open/save dialogues [ 984071 ] preview window [ 839695 ] PRINTING: Need Preview - Selection/Group/Layer [ 991425 ] ADD LAYER MANAGEMENT, PLEASE! [ 856710 ] GROUPS: Enter and leaving groups [ 857357 ] LAYERS: Various ideas combined [ 897628 ] group extending for boolean operations [ 927908 ] REQ: display start.x,y end.x,y width height length angle [ 967363 ] Gray out unavailable commands [ 971537 ] visually distinct selection in focused/unfocused windows [ 971544 ] sets (named selections) [ 979866 ] "Extract from group" command [ 851464 ] Inconsitency in object style for multiple selects vs. groups [ 962564 ] lasso, polygon lasso selection tools - Shortcuts [ 989881 ] Customisable Shortcuts [ 877745 ] Keyboard shortcut to repeat last operation [ 902736 ] Shortcuts in button tooltips [ 914856 ] UI: Left-handed users [ 974180 ] Keyboard Mapping [ 863386 ] USABILITY (EASY) Tool options by double clicking tool button - Text [ 994189 ] text highlighting [ 864095 ] FONTS: Specifiy font size in mm, cm, m, in, ... [ 876892 ] no baseline-shift attribute [ 926591 ] Adding a text editor to inkscape [ 959816 ] Dropper tool for font attributes [ 962175 ] Add text search and replace feature [ 965421 ] A GUI to modify letter spacing [ 977533 ] text and font dialog redesign [ 979871 ] Text Editor lacks scrolled view [ 979875 ] Text editor: proposal new button "import text" [ 860118 ] TEXT: Text-tool properties toolbar - XML [ 847504 ] Ability to use external XML editors [ 899722 ] XML Editor changes [ 862720 ] XML EDITOR: RealTime Sync of Working and XML [ 960371 ] Syntax highlighting <--************************************************************************* ***************************--> * Others [ 848530 ] Wiki does not handle zero-space situation [ 865043 ] Illustrator Pathfinder [ 900436 ] Shape masking of objects and groups. [ 902711 ] PDF reference card [ 903342 ] Toggle visibility of object handles (View menu) [ 957129 ] Progressbar while opening files [ 956030 ] Welcome screen [ 956039 ] Make it faster [ 902519 ] Timed saves for backup

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cannot compile
by bulia byak 23 Jul '04

23 Jul '04

I finally installed all the new libs and tried to compile CVS: Makefile:2804: *** missing separator. Stop. The line 2804 is: @am__fastdepCXX_TRUE@ if $(CXXCOMPILE) -MT $@ -MD -MP -MF "$(DEPDIR)/$*.Tpo" \ any ideas?

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align comments
by bulia byak 23 Jul '04

23 Jul '04

I finally tried the new align dialog. I realize it's a work in progress but still here are some comments: - BUG: when I open the align dialog, then switch to another non-Inkscape window and then back to Inkscape, the dialog disappears. Even when I switch focus to the editing window, the dialog disappears (not only sinks but disappears completely). This does not happen with e.g. Fill&Stroke dialog, and it must be fixed as soon as possible. - merging the two tabs into one makes sense, but then remove the lone "Align" tab - the new title "Docker" tells me nothing - Align and Distribute is what it does, so that is the title it should use; also don't lose the shortcut listed in the dialog title, as in all other dialogs - the anchor menu must have an appropriate label, e.g. "Relative to:" - the anchor meny only applies to alignment, not distribution, and therefore must be inside the Align frame - the old behavior corresponds to Selection, and therefore Selection must be the first and the default selected item in the anchor menu; it's also the most intuitive - the Last/First Selected items may be confusing, because in many cases the order or selection is undefined (e.g. when you do a rubberband around several objects), so please remove them and add Top/Bottom Object (referring to z-order) instead - in the node mode, none of the anchor menu items make sense (nodes have no bigger/smaller, no z-order, etc) so the menu must be removed, instead it should always align within the bounding box of the selected nodes It looks very promising, so I look forward to your further work on this! :)

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Re: freehand smoothing?
by Gazal, Geraud (MED) 23 Jul '04

23 Jul '04

Ainsi parlait Bulia Byak :" People keep complaining about the unsmooth freehand drawing in Inkscape and point out Sodipodi"s smooth drawing as its advantage over us: http://linuxfr.org/2004/07/20/16864.html (see comment "Sodipodi meilleur que Inkscape ?") " ------------------------------------------------------------------------ For info/tracking, RFE for this is [ 902216 ] Freehand tool needs to work smoother

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