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Some help needed with making operand path invisible in bool op LPE
by Michael Soegtrop 17 Jun '17

17 Jun '17

Dear Inkscape Team, with my recent pull request, the bool op LPE should work properly. A few notes / questions: 1.) The operand (other) path is not made invisible. I typically have my operand paths in an invisible layer. Is this ok, or should the bool op LPE make the operand path invisible? If so, I wonder how this could be done. The main problem is that I have no idea how I could re-enable the operand path when the bool op LPE is disabled (with the eye button in the bool op list). As far as I can tell, the bool-op code doesn't run at all when the bool-op is disabled, only when it is enabled. Or should I change the bool op so that it works on groups of paths (as created with Ctrl+K)? This would obviously solve the problem, but then I would need a grouping LPE, because one of my operand paths is typically a result of an LPE stack, while the other isn't 2.) The cut boolops only make sense if one path is an open path and one path is a closed path. Should I disable the cut options, if this is not the case? How can I detect this? 3.) The LPE only works on paths, not on objects. Is this ok? I guess this is the case for all LPE. 4.) The LPE has options for the fill type (odd-even, non-zero, positive). For the operand path (the other path) I can find out the inherent fill type of the path. The problem is somehow that the fill type is stored in SPItem objects, but the LPEs operator on SPCurve. The closest point upstream in the call stack is SPLPEItem::performPathEffect, but the SpItem is not passed down the the specific LPE code. Any ideas? Btw.: fill type negative would be nice to have. Best regards, Michael

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Marketing/Advocacy/Outreach Team - Proposed Objectives
by Ryan Gorley 17 Jun '17

17 Jun '17

As perhaps a primer to forming a new team to serve the Inkscape project, I would put forward for discussion the following *objectives* for such a team: 1. *Increasing the project's contributor base,* as measured by code commits, non-technical contributions, cash contributions, etc. 2. *Improving the market position of Inkscape*, as measured by user and target-user opinion studies, favorable press coverage, increased usage, etc. 3. *Increasing community loyalty and engagement*, as measured by participation in physical meetups, online discussions, social sharing, etc. Finding consensus about objectives seems more productive at this stage than strategy and tactics. I'd love to hear what you all think or would add/remove/edit. *(Bryce: I had this largely written prior to your response to the other thread, so feel free to steer this conversation in a different direction if you wish)*

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Social Media Management
by Robert Sterbal 17 Jun '17

17 Jun '17

I'm interested in helping with the social media management of the project. I didn't see who to contact to help with social media on this link: https://inkscape.org/en/contribute/to-do-list/ Who do I ask, and how do I contact them? Thanks, Robert Sterbal robert@...3541... 412-977-3526 call/text

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Join Us to Discuss Marketing Inkscape
by Ryan Gorley 17 Jun '17

17 Jun '17

If you're interested in volunteering your time and talent to help promote Inkscape, join us on the Freenode #inkscape-devel IRC channel ( https://inkscape.org/en/*developer/chat/), next *Tuesday 20 June @ 20:00 GMT*. This will be an informal meet-and-greet and a chance to take an inventory of who is interested and what experience we can bring together to spread the word about this amazing project. If you can't make it but wish to be involved, don't worry, we'll also organize a follow-up meeting in July. I look forward to meeting you all there! Ryan Gorley @ Dijt <https://dijt.co/>

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svg-2 text gsoc project?
by Boudewijn Rempt 15 Jun '17

15 Jun '17

Hi, We're currently working really hard to improve interoperability between inkscape and Krita by rewriting all our vector support to svg. We're also doing a new text object, based on svg instead of odg. So we're really interested in following along the 2017 svg-2 text gsoc project to see what we can learn. Is there already a branch and a wiki page for this project we can follow? -- Boudewijn Rempt | http://www.krita.org, http://www.valdyas.org

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CI timeout for merge request
by Maximilian Gaukler 14 Jun '17

14 Jun '17

Hi, as I saw you are migrating to gitlab, I wanted to submit a merge request for a patch I already proposed on launchpad. Unfortunately, the build takes way longer than the 1 hour timeout and therefore all my commits are flagged as "build failed": https://gitlab.com/mgmax/inkscape/builds/18388005 The first run made it to 77%, the second run to 39% of the build :-( Greetings, Max

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Git submodule policy / address sanitizer
by Michael Soegtrop 14 Jun '17

14 Jun '17

Dear Inkscape Team, since gitlib is up and running, the question arizes if we want to use submodules, and if so which folder structure should we use. I want to add address / memory sanitizer support and use https://github.com/arsenm/sanitizers-cmake. It is just a few files and I could copy them verbatim, but it would make sense to add it as a submodule. In case you don't know what address/memory sanitizer is: it creates instrumented builds (about 2x slower) which check for all sorts of invalid memory usage, like access to freed memory or reading uninitialized variables. The cmake scripts above enable this by a cmake define, similar to switching between debug and release builds. In my experience it saves a lot of time in tracking down obscure bugs in complex C++ code. I right now have a debug/release deviation I want to track down. Best regards, Michael

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[GitLab Migration] Make old repository read-only
by Eduard Braun 14 Jun '17

14 Jun '17

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GitLab Issues Tracker
by Martin Owens 14 Jun '17

14 Jun '17

Dear Bug hunters and Developers, GitLab contact Connor Shea has asked us what we might need in the GitLab issues tracker to consider using it as our bug tracker instead of launchpad. After talking with su_v and bryce on IRC, I've drafted this possible email detailing some of the issues: https://inkscape.org/en/paste/11094/ We need your input too, if there are things that the launchpad system does, or even if there are things you wish it did but GitLab could do. Or if there are specific issues with the GitLab user interface. We can detail them here and send them to GitLab. I've love specifically to hear more from Mc and jazzynico as they've done a lot of bug work. Thanks for your help. Best Regards, Martin Owens

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Social Media Management
by Ryan Gorley 13 Jun '17

13 Jun '17

http://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php Ryan Gorley @ Dijt <https://dijt.co/> On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Robert@...3541... <rsterbal@...714...> wrote: > Do you have a link to the forum? > > On Jun 13, 2017, at 2:21 PM, Ryan Gorley <ryan@...3508...> wrote: > > I'll put forward that we meet at either 13:00 or 20:00 GMT on the Tuesday > 6/20 on either IRC Freenode #inkscape-devel channel or > https://meet.jit.si/inkscape. > > I'm open to alternative times. If we need to we could have an asynchronous > meeting on the forum as well. > > > Ryan Gorley @ Dijt <https://dijt.co/> > > On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 10:37 AM, Bryce Harrington < > bryce@...961...> wrote: > >> On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 03:29:35AM -0600, brynn wrote: >> > I'm also of the opinion that many users feel ignored. Even though >> Inkscape >> > is provided to them for free, many people like to feel some kind of >> > ownership, or partnership (can't think of the right word that I want to >> use >> > here). They want to feel like they have a stake in the program or >> project. >> > For 2 or 3 years now, I've been trying to keep forums "in the loop". >> But >> > not being a social media participant, I can't do much there. >> > >> > In any case, I'm glad that you want to step in and help in this way. >> I've >> > saved your address, so that whenever Bryce is ready to extend >> invitations >> > again, for starting the advocacy group, you'll get the message. >> >> If people are interested in getting organized now, that's really the >> only piece that's been missing. And I've noticed some interest in >> outreach efforts bubbling stronger lately, so maybe the time's ripe? I >> was thinking a get together type meeting would be a fun way to kick >> things off, and just get to know everyone; if that sounds like it'd be >> useful why don't you guys suggest a place and time? >> >> I don't have fixed ideas for what the group would do, but it's been very >> evident that we have some deep needs in this department, and Inkscape >> needs an official team chartered to address them. >> >> > It will be AWESOME to get this group going! >> >> You guys should also decide what you want to call yourselves. We've >> kicked around "marketing", "advocacy", "outreach", and more, but I >> figure it would be a good decision for the team to make for itself. >> >> > Did you see Bryce's message listing all the people who are involved >> with the >> > various outlets? It's just a few messages above this one, in my inbox >> (if >> > that helps you to find it). It was sent to the list, without any >> specific >> > people addressed. (So maybe is somewhere else in your inbox?) >> > >> > I think probably you can find the email addresses for all of them, in >> this >> > devel list. Here's the archives, in case some of them haven't posted >> since >> > you joined. You can get their addresses from there: >> > https://sourceforge.net/p/inkscape/mailman/inkscape-devel/ >> >> Robert mentioned he's also working on assembling a list of outlets. >> >> There may be interest to tap in adding more; on the facebook group today >> someone asked about an official youtube channel. I'm sure there's no >> shortage of great ideas, as Brynn said the trick will be recruiting and >> building a solid team and nailing down some solid plans. >> >> Bryce >> >> > All best, >> > brynn >> > >> > -----Original Message----- From: Robert Sterbal >> > Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 8:26 PM >> > To: Ryan Gorley ; robert@...3541... >> > Cc: brynn ; Martin Owens ; Inkscape Devel List >> > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Social Media Management >> > >> > >> > >> > My sense is that users feel left out of the community. What is helpful >> is to >> > reach out to them, natively to the platforms they are on. Twitter, >> Facebook >> > and Google have very different voices. Putting out some content on a >> regular >> > basis and measuring engagement is a good step for any project. >> > >> > Again, all the references to actually projects are somewhat vague. Who >> works >> > with Facebook? How do I contact them? >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > >> > Robert Sterbal >> > robert@...3541... >> > 412-977-3526 call/text >> > >> > On 6/12/2017 1:33 PM, Ryan Gorley wrote: >> > >> > Facebook is probably the easiest platform to have Robert contribute to, >> > since you just need to make him an editor to the page. Through >> TweetDeck we >> > can accomplish essentially the same thing with Twitter through account >> > contributors, though it is going to require a little setup (no cost) >> from >> > someone with the admin login. Google allows for editors on pages, like >> > Facebook does (I haven't tried on a community yet, but I'm sure it is >> > essentially the same). LinkedIn and DeviantArt probably need to be >> addressed >> > a little differently, and can be a topic for a different discussion. >> > >> > Is the facilitation of contributors to the social platforms and the >> creation >> > of a messaging strategy a good first task for the yet-to-be-created >> Inkscape >> > marketing team? >> > >> > >> > >> > Ryan Gorley @ Dijt >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 5:24 AM, Robert Sterbal <rsterbal@...714...> >> wrote: >> > That would be fine. >> > >> > This project has great resources and helping people find them would be >> the >> > main focus of the effort right now. >> > >> > I'd be happy to help with the project. >> > >> > Please note that it is not recommended practice in social media for >> only one >> > person to know the login credentials of any single social media >> presence. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > Robert Sterbal >> > robert@...3541... >> > 412-977-3526 call/text >> > >> > >> > On 6/12/2017 4:23 AM, brynn wrote: >> > Hi Robert, >> > I don't use social media myself. But I certainly recognize the >> value >> > to a project like this. I have the impression, from the posts we get >> now >> > and then (in both forums and mailing lists), that there doesn't seem to >> be >> > anyone participating on a daily (or even just regular) basis, making >> sure >> > connections get made, questions answered, rumors squashed, etc. I >> think one >> > person holds the accounts (as Martin mentioned), but doesn't have time >> for >> > the day to day management. >> > >> > I do know there is (at least) one FB group which has been fairly >> > active lately, holding drawing contests or challenges. I could look up >> a >> > link to it, if you need it. Although you probably already know about >> it. >> > >> > One thing that's in the plans, is an advocacy group or team, which >> > would make sure all the various necessary announcements get made, >> through >> > all the project's web outlets. And as well, it would probably manage >> some >> > outreach or "marketing" plans (in quotes, since there's no "buying or >> > selling"). >> > >> > I'm hoping we can get that going as soon as the activity after >> > hackfest calms down. Would you be interested in being on that team? Or >> > even if you could just be the team's contact person for social media, it >> > would be a big help. I can't say for sure, since we haven't organized >> yet, >> > but probably the team would create small announcements, and send them >> to you >> > to post. >> > >> > Thanks for your offer to help! Let us know if you're interested >> in the >> > advocacy group, and at what level :-) >> > >> > All best, >> > brynn >> > >> > -----Original Message----- From: Robert Sterbal >> > Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 9:59 PM >> > To: Martin Owens ; robert@...3541... ; Inkscape-devel@...142... >> ge.net >> > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Social Media Management >> > >> > My main expertise is in Facebook groups. I co-admin a group with 19,000 >> > people about a TV show. I moderate a group for an iOS developer with >> > about 70 people in it. I've used social media since the 1990s and I >> > really enjoy connecting users to each other and to relevant resources >> > about their interests. >> > >> > I'd be happy to help organize your efforts. I'm a big fan of documenting >> > resources. >> > >> > Thanks for your reply, >> > >> > Robert Sterbal >> > robert@...3541... >> > 412-977-3526 call/text >> > >> > On 6/11/2017 11:13 PM, Martin Owens wrote: >> > Hi Robert, >> > >> > It's great to hear from you and your help with social media. >> > >> > Our working document for tracking project resources is here: >> > >> > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kilt4tm1KDCNysd5oy5M5wJnCCS45fq >> > a7VIoEyBl090/edit#gid=0 >> > >> > The social media list as you can see is a bit all over the >> > place. scislac has the most keys, but I'm hoping we can get more people >> > involved and get a process for news propergation and the reverse (from >> > social media to project) >> > >> > Which parts are you most interested in helping with? Are you interested >> > in working with me to make sure we have project wide admin access to >> > these accounts? >> > >> > Best Regards, Martin Owens >> > >> > On Sun, 2017-06-11 at 22:32 -0400, Robert Sterbal wrote: >> > I'm interested in helping with the social media management of the >> > project. >> > I didn't see who to contact to help with social media on this link: h >> > ttps://inkscape.org/en/contribute/to-do-list/ >> > Who do I ask, and how do I contact them? >> > Thanks, >> > Robert Sterbal >> > robert@...3541... >> > 412-977-3526 call/text >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > ----------- >> > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >> > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Inkscape-devel mailing list >> > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel >> > >> > --- >> > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >> > http://www.avg.com >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------ >> > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >> > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Inkscape-devel mailing list >> > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------ >> > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >> > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Inkscape-devel mailing list >> > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel >> > >> > >> > >> > Virus-free. www.avg.com >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------ >> > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >> > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Inkscape-devel mailing list >> > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel >> > >

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