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Updated spanish translation
by Lucas Vieites 30 Jun '04

30 Jun '04

Hi, I updated the spanish translation again, I hope to get a deep revision done before it gets into 0.39. Bye -- Lucas 'Basurero' Vieites Dept. Desarrollo <lucas@...212...> Asix Informática <http://www.asixinformatica.com/> Tel/Fax: +34 986 54 26 98

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GTK+ Info
by Bob Jamison 30 Jun '04

30 Jun '04

I saw this on NewsForge. Thought it might be of interest here. http://lists.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2004-June/msg00125.html Bob p.s.: No, I'm not one of those guys who emails you every URL he reads.... honest! :)

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Inkscape Manual
by Cédric GEMY 30 Jun '04

30 Jun '04

Hi, I've added today to the CVS a first part for the Inkscape Manual. To files : one for french : inkscapeUTFfr.xml one in poor english : inkscapeUTFen.xml These are first tests. We should take some time on this to improve our method. at least : English should be improved. If informations have to be changed, or if there are errors, please keep me informed to update the versions (may be should add a 'wish/error' list to the wiki). Give your mind. Cedric

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Creature House Expression 3 available for free
by vellum 29 Jun '04

29 Jun '04

Alan, > I dont have a Passport account that Microsoft seems to require. Getting one is straightforward. The site form is not well written though and reads as if you need a previous copy of Creature House. Actually all you need to give is your email addy. Takes about three minutes. > Is there anychance you could put a copy up somewhere temporarily? No, sorry. The download is 57.5MB and took me four hours on dial-up. :-) vellum

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Metadata dialog localization
by Arpad Biro 29 Jun '04

29 Jun '04

Hi, In the metadata dialog, the captions from "Title" to "License" (9 strings) always appear in English, even if they are translated in the PO file. "License:" and "Proprietary" appear localized. Inkscape 0.39cvs (Jun 29 2004) Arpad Biro __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

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Toolbar issues
by Arpad Biro 29 Jun '04

29 Jun '04

Hi, Inkscape 0.39cvs (Jun 29 2004) KDE 3.2 GTK 2.2.4 After detaching (making it floating) a toolbar, it does not stay on top - it disappears on the next mouse click and can only be re-enabled with View->Show/Hide. In the case of the Tool Controls toolbar, there's another thing: after hiding and then re-enabling it (both with View->Show/Hide), it loses its functionality: some of the tools will not have their controls displayed. Arpad Biro __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

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commands bar
by bulia byak 29 Jun '04

29 Jun '04

OK, so the Commands Bar is in. The icons look really ugly and inconsistent when lined up in a toolbar, but that's the way they are. I wanted to add a few more commands but they don't have any icons at all now. Still I think some may find this new toolbar convenient; those who hate it, just hide it via the View menu and forget. P.S. As for terminology, all variants except "commands bar" seemed to be too vague or confusing for the new toolbar. And for the former top panel, "Tool options bar/panel" might be OK but is confusing because we have tool preferences tabs in the Preferences dialog, so I'm sticking with "Tool controls [panel]". Feel free to disagree. P.P.S. In reponse to loud complaints from the public, the nasty "Hide Menu" command is hunted down and killed mercilessly. Enjoy its absence :)

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Pango development
by Emanuele Aina 28 Jun '04

28 Jun '04

Reading Planet GNOME (http://planet.gnome.org) I've found that Christopher Blizzard (http://www.0xdeadbeef.com/) is working on custom encondings for Pango. Perhaphs it can be interesting for those who are working on the characters enconding translation (the details are on Christopher's blog). -- Buongiorno. Complimenti per l'ottima scelta.

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] commands bar
by bulia byak 28 Jun '04

28 Jun '04

> dont destroy the hide menu button. just add a shortcut key combo to > show/hide it ;-) Well, those who know what they're doing can still hide it by editing preferences.xml. I'm still undecided though. Maybe enabling F10 to show and activate menu, plus a warning on hiding it, will be enough protection? What do you think?

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Re: [Clipart] new inkscape dialogs
by Alan Horkan 27 Jun '04

27 Jun '04

[moved from Clipart back to Inkscape] On Thu, 24 Jun 2004, Jon Phillips wrote: > Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 03:47:18 -0700 > From: Jon Phillips <jon@...235...> > To: Andrew Fitzsimon <andrew@...420...> > Cc: clipart-list <clipart@...330...> > Subject: Re: [Clipart] new inkscape dialogs > > These are rocking man!!! I can't wait until they are fully implemented. > It would be great if they could be ready by AUGUST so that I can present > them at a couple of conferences and in time for OSCON2004! > > It will be great to show the linkages between metadata in OCAL and in > Inkscape directly!!! You are cool!!! > > Jon > > > On Sun, 2004-06-20 at 23:14, Andrew Fitzsimon wrote: > > Hi guys, just a few mockups comming from inkscape. > > > > bryce mentioned you'd like to see them > > > > http://andy.fitzsimon.com.au/obman/obman2.png > > http://andy.fitzsimon.com.au/obman/docset.png > > http://andy.fitzsimon.com.au/obman/docset2.png I realise these dialogs fit in with Inkscapes current design, the are clear compact and well arranged but I think it is important to consider integration with Gnome. The way I see it Sodipodi tried to make all dialogs as small and as compact as possible, and for non-modal dialogs that are expected to be left permantly open this makes sense. (Other graphics applications refer to these types of Dialogs as Palettes, and I try to do so too). I can understand that the Object Manager is probably something you would want to leave open. These should be considered distinct and seperate from Transient dialogs (modal or non-modal, it doesn't matter) that are not intended to be left open. Transient dialogs are not under the same space constraints. As far as I know the Inkscape developers do want to follow the Gnome Human Interface Guidelines (mostly), so I hope I'm not out of line asking for a more standard layout. The Document settings (document properties?) seems more like the latter type of transient Dialog. The reason I bring this up at all is that I immediatly wondered where the Cancel, OK buttons were. By positioning the "clear" button on the bottom right where the action/OK button usually is I expect some users will absent mindedly clear the data they just typed in when in fact they wanted to dismiss the dialog not clear the information. I believe that the Reset button and Icon the GIMP uses is a stock item, using it instead might help. The abbreviation "Info" should not be used, abbreviations make English harder to understand for non-native speakers and even native speakers will need to take an extra fraction of a second to mentally unscramble it. Anyway from an Internationalisation point of view there needs to be enough space in the user interface to accomodate other languages that are more verbose, so there is no advantage to be gained by the abbreviation. (You might also consider putting the Custom name,value pairs into a seperate tab as it would provide much more room as there could potentially be many other bits of metadata. Offhand I can think of Date, Copyright (which includes licensing), keywords, being needed for OpenClipart.org content). The item "Insert OpenClipart.org RDF" is very specific and could be confusing to new users who have discovered Inkscape through their Linux distribution, perhaps this could be changed to insert metadata from file/template and one of those templates would be the OpenClipart.org metadata? I am not suggesting you redo these dialogs now but I hope you will take on these suggestions and incorporate them whenever you next need to revise the dialog. Hope that helps. Sincerely Alan Horkan

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