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RE: [Inkscape-devel] Inkscape strings
by bulia byak 31 Mar '04

31 Mar '04

> > Tip radius is the distance from the center to the farthest handle. > > Base radius is the same for closest handle. Can you suggest better > > terms? > >They are OK, but then I can't see why it's called "sharpness". >(If someone starts to move the inner handle along a circle, he >will possibly be surprised to see the resulting objects have the >same "sharpness".) Right, strictly speaking sharpness also depends on the angular positions of handles - skewed tips are sharper than straight ones with the same radii. However the label must be one word, maximum two, as long explanations won't fit. Please feel free to propose a better one-word term than "sharpness". >I see it now. What I tried was to raise only 1 item of a group (after >Ctrl+clicking it), and Inkscape did not raise this item above an >ungroupped object -- but this was a bad thing to test with, because >Inkscape does not give this message then. There's no error message because it's not an error - it does in fact moves the selected object within its group. So this may be not what you expected, but it's a successful operation from Inkscape viewpoint, and we don't report on successes (with some exceptions, such as "Document saved."). >The point I was trying to make with all this is that we are talking >about "different groups or layers", but those objects do not both have >to be in a group, and we have only 1 layer in Inkscape right now. So >if you take a root-level, ungroupped object and try to group it with >an already groupped single item, then it's strange to receive this >message telling that they are from a different group (one of them is >ungroupped) or layer (there's no layer). Right, more correct would be "You cannot raise/lower objects from different groups or layers, or grouped objects together with ungrouped ones", but IMHO it's too wordy, and the part after comma adds nothing really useful for the user, it's kinda implied. What do others think? _________________________________________________________________ MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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Re: [Inkscape-user] (no subject)
by Daniel Díaz 31 Mar '04

31 Mar '04

[Hello all. This is mostly related to the project, so in case anyone understands Spanish, here it goes] Hola, qué tal. On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 19:47, Ricardo Ortiz Coronado wrote: > Mira, mi idea es algun dia poder pasarme al soft GNU algun dia no muy > lejano, Fíjate que ya hay quien se pasa prácticamente todo el día en Linux usando software libre para sus composiciones. Bulia Byak, uno de los desarrolladores, por ejemplo, dice que se pasa ahí las horas y lo usa para sus trabajos. Eso resulta bastante bueno porque donde encuentra que algo le duele al software, luego luego hace una modificación y lo mejora. ¡Ya quisiéramos todos tener su habilidad para programar tan bien! > soy diseñador grafico y como podras ver, realmente no hay mucho de > donde escoger, aunque veo sof con mucho futuro, ¡Bastante! Inkscape ha evolucionado de una forma increíble en el poco tiempo que ha existido. Desde que se separó de Sodipodi, el rol de Inkscape le da nuevos bríos al diseño gráfico con software libre. > podria ayudar en la parte de > traduccion, no por mi sino por medio de un amigo que me traduce. Eso sería bastante bueno. Ya Lucas Vieites Fariña <lucas@...212...> tomó las riendas de la traducción al español, y también dijo que le iba a dar atención al tutorial. Sería bueno que lo contactaras para ver si de esa forma se puede formar un equipo de traducción al español para Inkscape. > tambien > puedo testear el soft en un rip Postcript para ver la salida a preprensa. > (donde trabajo hay una fotocomponedora) pero el inconveniente es la salida > de impresion del InkScape. ¡Suena como que muy bien! Pero... ¿qué es un rip? Ahí disculparás, pero lo del diseño gráfico no es lo mío, y por ello no conozco la jerga. Me imagino que es algo particular de las imprentas, así que si puedes experimentar con eso e Inkscape, ¡pues sería fabuloso reportar los resultados en el grupo! Hasta donde yo sé, Inkscape sí tiene unos problemas para exportar a PostScript, y es que nadie se ha dado a la tarea de actualizar ese filtro de salida. Siempre que sale a colación en la lista dicen: "¿Alguien que quiera tomar ese pendiente?", así que habrá que esperar al menos a que esté en los planes, porque la versión 0.38 es más que nada para eliminar bugs. > Bueno por favor orientame donde puedo enviar mis > comentarios, o que te parece si te los envio. > Gracias por contestarme. Hombre, no hay problema. Me los puedes enviar a mí, pero yo soy sólo un amigo del proyecto. Lo mejor sería dirigir todas tus inquietudes al grupo. Es más, si puedes lanzarte al chat (está en Jabber, pero no recuerdo en dónde), mejor, para que platiques con Bryce y todos ellos. > Te comento que estoy probando el scribus y me ha > parecido fabuloso, bueno no es un Quark pero ahi vamos. Saludos ¡De acuerdo! No es lo mejor, pero sí que es bueno. Scribus también ha tenido bastante progreso, y lo mejor de todo es que hay buenas relaciones entre la gente de Scribus y la de Inkscape, porque quieren asegurar que exista buena comunicación de archivos entre uno y otro producto. Cosas muy buenas van a salir de esa relación, vas a ver. Espero que no te moleste que haya mandado copia de este correo al grupo. Así que aquí andamos para lo que se ofrezca. ¡Saludos! Daniel Díaz yosoy@...31...

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] annoying usability with selection
by bulia byak 30 Mar '04

30 Mar '04

>arguably* this is the correct behaviour and that if you want to rotate all >the objects as a group then you should group them and ungroup them when >you are done. (* i wouldn't argue this for myself, although the behaviour >is logical I cannot say I have ever wanted to use it that way) If we follow this logic, we'll also need to change scaling, skewing, flipping, and perhaps other operations all of which currently work on a selection as a whole. >the problem is that if you change the behaviour to rotate the whole group >and some one actually does want to rotate each of the selected objects >individually then they would be forced to do them one by one. True, this may be useful sometimes too, but it's not for a global verb. It would be nice to have it as a checkbox in the Transform dialog or next to the top panel's Rotate field. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Premium with Virus Guard and Firewall* from McAfee� Security : 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] annoying usability with selection
by bulia byak 30 Mar '04

30 Mar '04

>Does anyone else find it annoying that when using another tool, you >can't select all with ctrl-a You can. It's a global verb, although it works differently in node tool. , and shift into selection mode? Also, I >wonder if there could be shortcut keys associated with rotate 90 deg CW >and 90 deg CCW. There are. Look up Ctrl+[ and Ctrl+] in the reference. There is a problem with them, however: these keys are only valid in selector, while the buttons on the toolbar call a different function and are global verbs without shortcuts. Those global rotates are broken (try rotating several selected objects, it rotates each one separately instead of rotating the selection as a whole) and need to be removed anyway. And the reason why the [, ] rotates are not global is that they work differently in node editor (rotate node handles). So what needs to be done is this: - rewrite the global rotate verbs so that they find out the current tool and call different functions in node tool and in all other tools. An example of such tool-sensitive verb is Ctrl+A whence you can borrow the check code. - assign the Ctrl+[] shortcuts to these global verbs and remove these keys from select-context.cpp. This might be a good project for you :) _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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RE: Startup message
by bulia byak 30 Mar '04

30 Mar '04

This means it can't find some of the icons. This may happen if you updated your .exe but not icons.svg. >I am consistently getting the following startup messages with win32 28 >march >and 29 march. > >vellum ><< Startup040329.gif >> ><< Startup040328.gif >> _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN Premium http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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annoying usability with selection
by Jonathan Phillips 30 Mar '04

30 Mar '04

Does anyone else find it annoying that when using another tool, you can't select all with ctrl-a, and shift into selection mode? Also, I wonder if there could be shortcut keys associated with rotate 90 deg CW and 90 deg CCW. Jon -- Jon Phillips Graduate Researcher Visual Arts Department PO BOX 948667 LA JOLLA, CA USA cell.858.361.2811 jon@...247... http://www.jonphillips.info

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Re: [Inkscape-user] little buggy ?
by Jonathan Phillips 30 Mar '04

30 Mar '04

I will forward up stream to whomever creates the Industrial Theme. Arg. I really do not believe this is our bug, as we are using standard GTK widgets for the rulers, right? Jon On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 10:09, Vinh TONTHAT wrote: > Thanks for your reply :) > > I am using Arch Linux with Industrial theme on gtk 2.2.4. I tried with > other themes which work without problem. Industrial is my favorite gtk2, > how to get Inkscape works with ? > > Vinh > > On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 09:15:58 -0800, Jonathan Phillips <jon@...15...> > wrote: > > > Arg...I tested the newest Industrial theme which was giving us this > > problem and it seemed fixed. I do believe this is a problem with some > > themes, as others work. > > > > Could you tell me what theme you are using, your system, etc, so that I > > can look into this further. > > > > Jon > > > > > > On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 03:53, vinh@...286... wrote: > >> there is what I get when I scroll with mouse: > >> > >> http://www.opti-mind.net/tmp/buggy.png > >> > >> Do you have any idea ? > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> Vinh > >> > >> ******ADSL Tiscali, le Haut débit au meilleur prix ****** > >> Avec Tiscali, profitez de l'ADSL au meilleur prix partout en France ! > >> Pour profiter de cette offre exceptionnelle, cliquez ici : > >> http://register.tiscali.fr/adsl > >> Sous réserve d'éligibilité à l'ADSL. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------- > >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials > >> Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of > >> GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system > >> administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id70&alloc_id638&opÌk > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Inkscape-user mailing list > >> Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user -- Jon Phillips Graduate Researcher Visual Arts Department PO BOX 948667 LA JOLLA, CA USA cell.858.361.2811 jon@...247... http://www.jonphillips.info

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] Inkscape strings
by bulia byak 30 Mar '04

30 Mar '04

> > Right, strictly speaking sharpness also depends on the angular > > positions of handles. Please feel free to propose a better one-word > > term than "sharpness". > >Maybe "compactness"? Same problem as sharpness. A star with skewed rays is less compact even if the radii are the same length. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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Open/Save dialogs
by Ted Gould 30 Mar '04

30 Mar '04

Hey, I changed the open and save dialogs so that they have listings of all the extensions that are available to be saved with. Unfortunately, I don't have a win32 system to put the changes over there. I think that I have ported over the API changes (so it should build) - but not the code. Can someone port the changed code? I guess someone should also make sure that I didn't screw up the build too :) --Ted

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InkScape Icons (fwd)
by Bryce Harrington 29 Mar '04

29 Mar '04

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 23:19:27 +1000 From: Gerwood <gerwood@...289...> To: bryce@...58... Subject: InkScape Icons Bryce A quick explanation. I found out about inkscape less than a week ago and so far have found it a brilliant program to use. I am sending to you an icon I have created for it (for use in gnome). I figured you might like to start a collection or similar. Thank you for this program. Incidently I did also try sodipodi and I realise that they are from the same source originally. I chose inkscape though because I preferred the interface. I thought you would also like to know that I found inkscape to be very, very easy to use. I have already started on my own icon set as a result. Again thank you and the rest of those who are working on this program. Gerwood Stewart (p.s. do what you will with the icon).

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