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Re: [Inkscape-devel] DTD
by bulia byak 04 Mar '04

04 Mar '04

>Good idea. For Inkscape we listed 'full SVG compliance' as one of our >core missions & goals, so the DTD is extremely important. I don't know >if Inkscape's output passes the W3C DTD, but if it doesn't then those >items should probably be treated as critical bugs (as bad as crash >bugs). No it does not pass W3C DTD, and it will never be able to, simply because DTDs are not namespace-aware. In a DTD, you cannot say "pay no attention to anything outside svg namespace". DTDs are an extremely old and inflexible technology. The best we can do about it is ignore it. >We've also talked about having a DTD for the SVG additions. This is >definitely something that should be written and included with the >Inkscape package - wouldn't hurt to include the W3C SVG DTD too, for >completeness. Maybe we should have a share/dtd/ directory? Any schemas are useful when you have different suppliers and different consumers of information using a shared format. In our case, we have one supplier (Inkscape) and one consumer (Inkscape), so I don't see much use for a DTD or schema. When people will begin generating Inkscape SVG documents by scripts, or do some meaningful things to them outside of Inkscape, then a shema will be more useful. Right now it's ultimately Inkscape itself that defines what is "valid" and what not. Also, the inkscape: additions are very much in a flux, new ones are added often, and we still don't have a big enough body of SVG documents in Inkscape format. _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Re: 'dialogs' menu (screenshot inside)
by Alan Horkan 04 Mar '04

04 Mar '04

On Sat, 21 Feb 2004, Nestor Diaz Valencia wrote: > Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 10:38:57 +0000 > From: Nestor Diaz Valencia <nestordiaz@...207...> > To: Alan Horkan <horkana@...44...> > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Re: 'dialogs' menu (screenshot inside) > > You are right, gimp stock icons, plus openoffice stock icons. > The theme is not perfect but it looks integrated. I had a look. Rather than simply embed the new icons I would ideally like to see the icon theme specifications followed so that users can switch themes rather than being stuck with just one. I've been meaning for a long time to get the original vector graphics for the High Contrast theme and make a low (~16) theme out of it. The (gfig) star and spiral icons are pretty bad, but they were drawn too small originally because of the cramped gfig user interface and I think jimmac didn't change them much when he redrew them. If you are going to use the stock icons from OpenOffice I think it would be far better if you used the ellipse icon that doesn't have a segment sliced out of it (because the ellipse tool in inkscape cannot draw shapes like that yet). (I really hope I remember this right because I've deleted the mail with the attachment and although I tried to find it in the mailing list archives there is a signficant delay before Sourceforge updates the mailing list archives http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=36054 ) All the icons are on Jimmacs website http://jimmac.musichall.cz/i.php3?ikony=77 Stock Draw circle http://jimmac.musichall.cz/ikony/i77/stock_draw-circle.png Stock Draw square http://jimmac.musichall.cz/ikony/i77/stock_draw-square.png I should admit that I'm not a huge fan of Jimmacs Gnome 2 icons and I actually prefer clearer sharper icons however it is a great bit of work you have done and it great that someone tried this, just the other day on GnomeDesktop.org a user was asking for Inkscape to use the stock icons. http://gnomedesktop.org/article.php?sid=1653 I also considered taking the icons Inkscape was already using and colouring in the Square Circle and Star to the colours they are now using by default to make them more easily distinguishable at a glance. Hope that makes sense Sincerely Alan Horkan

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RE : call for sample pictures
by Cédric GEMY 04 Mar '04

04 Mar '04

I've put some SVG files here : http://www.le-radar.com/?art/galerie feel free to use them. A+ Cedric

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] Inkscape with coloured icons (fwd)
by bulia byak 03 Mar '04

03 Mar '04

>From reading the markup I have noticed that it is extremely verbose (more >accurately I was reminded having previously noticed this in Sodipodi) and >I cannot think of any reason why this markup needs to be written. For >example a lot of style information about fonts in groups that done contain >any text or setting the fill-style:none but and then still setting the >unneccessary fill-rule, so i filed an enhancement request asking for less >verbose markup and with some suggestions. >http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=909368&group_id=93… Text style is not added to non-text objects now. Since icons.svg was created long ago, it doesn't show that. More granular style management will be possible when we have AST (a new internal representation for XML and CSS) that's being worked on. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/features&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin…

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Mozilla SVG support info
by Bob Jamison 03 Mar '04

03 Mar '04

I saw this posted on /. http://www.mozilla.org/events/dev-day-feb-2004/mozilla-futures/title.html Use the <-- and --> keys to navigate. It would be absolutely wonderful if Mozilla supported SVG by default. Bob

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[Fwd: [OT] Re: Inkscape inclusion on w3 svg site]
by Jonathan Phillips 03 Mar '04

03 Mar '04

I've been trying to get us on w3.org, but look at one of the responses from their list. I guess we should look at the RFE's some more, but man we have a ton of RFE's!!! Jon -----Forwarded Message----- From: Tobias Reif <tobiasreif@...254...> To: Jonathan Phillips <jon@...15...> Cc: svg list <www-svg@...157...> Subject: [OT] Re: Inkscape inclusion on w3 svg site Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 10:31:05 +0100 Hi On Tue 2004-03-02 Jonathan Phillips wrote: > Could someone add Inkscape to this page as an acceptable SVG editor. > This site drives traffic in a major way and we've identified being > on this list as highly valuable. > [...] > Inkscape's main motivation is to provide the Open Source community > with a fully XML, SVG, and CSS2 compliant SVG drawing tool. > Additional planned work includes conversion of the codebase from > C/Gtk to C++/Gtkmm, emphasizing a lightweight core with powerful > features added through an extension mechanism, and establishment of > a friendly, open, community-oriented development processes. Given that there hasn't been any reaction to my RFE http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&atid=604309&aid=848230… since more than three months I didn't even bother trying it out. Tobi -- Jonathan Phillips <jon@...15...>

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] Problem with saved files in system with non UTF-8 locales
by unknown＠example.com 03 Mar '04

03 Mar '04

> -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [Inkscape-devel] Problem with saved files in system with non > UTF-8 locales > From: "Okhremenko Andrei" <andreo@...251...> > Date: Wed, March 03, 2004 12:04 am > To: "Inkscape-devel" <Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net> > > I use Fedora Core 1 with russian locale ru_RU.koi8r. > When I saved file (SaveAs) with russian letters in filename I have > some > problems. > > 1. I don't see filename in header of program. > 2. When I closed inkscape and start it again I have message That's a known bug, id #866197 I happen to be working on that litterally as we speak. (Well, tonight while I'm reading and responding to your mail). I'll probably have a fix checked into CVS soon. :-)

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] Problem with saved files in system with non UTF-8 locales
by bulia byak 03 Mar '04

03 Mar '04

> When I saved file (SaveAs) with russian letters in filename I have some >problems. This is a known bug. We're fixing it at the moment, it will work in 0.38. Thanks for reporting! _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoi…

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Problem with saved files in system with non UTF-8 locales
by Okhremenko Andrei 03 Mar '04

03 Mar '04

I use Fedora Core 1 with russian locale ru_RU.koi8r. When I saved file (SaveAs) with russian letters in filename I have some problems. 1. I don't see filename in header of program. 2. When I closed inkscape and start it again I have message /home/oau/.inkscape/preferences.xml either is not valid xml file or you do not have read premissions on it. Although inkscape will run, you are neither able to load nor save preferences. I viewed filename.svg and preferences.xml files and I found what Inkscape write some attributes in tags in koi8r locale, non utf-8. Example filename.svg tag <svg ... sodipodi:docname - koi8r locale sodipodi:docbase - koi8r locale preferences.xml tag <document ... uri - koi8r locale name - koi8r locale It's wrong. Andreo P.S. Sorry my english is so bad.

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] DTD
by bulia byak 03 Mar '04

03 Mar '04

Wait a second. What is the bug here? The namespace URI does not resolve into DTD? It doesn't have to. It must be formally correct URI but it must not necessarily correspond to any page. Besides, only the Sodipodi namespace alludes to a DTD, Inkscape's does not, and we cannot add a DTD to sodipodi.sf.net even if we wanted to. We may eventually provide a schema for the Inkscape/Sodipodi SVG extensions, but it is not top priority now, and it may not be a DTD (there are much more flexible and powerful schema languages than DTD). >From: Jonathan Phillips <jon@...15...> >To: Wendall Cada <wendallc@...248...> >CC: inkscape <inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net> >Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] DTD >Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 13:14:42 -0800 > >Cool...could you file it in Inkscape as a bug. > >Jon > > >On Tue, 2004-03-02 at 13:06, Wendall Cada wrote: > > I filed a bug with the Sodipodi project quite some time ago, it can be > > found here: > > > > Date: 2003-11-29 11:29 > > Sender: lauris > > Logged In: YES > > user_id=19294 > > > > No, DTD does not exist, because nobody wants to maintain > > it (and unmaintained DTD is much useless). > > Also, W3C guidelines only say, that xmlns indicator has to > > be valid URL, not really existing document. > > Also, there is 'plain-svg' saving option and --export-svg > > command line option, that should create pure W3C variant. > > So I move this to feature request category from bugs. >-- >Jonathan Phillips <jon@...15...> > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now. >Build and deploy apps & Web services for Linux with >a free DVD software kit from IBM. Click Now! >http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356&alloc_id=3438&op=click >_______________________________________________ >Inkscape-devel mailing list >Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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