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RE: [Inkscape-devel] Proposal: "inkscape-user@" mailing list
by bulia byak 24 Jan '04

24 Jan '04

>If this sounds good, I'll set it up, and we can push membership in it >as part of the 0.37 announce. Good idea I think. Please don't forget to mention it in the release notes. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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HELP SYSTEM: scrollkeeper + yelp
by Jonathan Phillips 22 Jan '04

22 Jan '04

In regards to implementing a cross-platform help system, we can use docbook in conjunction with scrollkeeper/yelp on Linux and OS X, and then convert to Microsoft HTML Help from docbook for win32 based systems. Check out the docbook formats: http://docbook.org/wiki/moin.cgi/formats More about docbook: http://docbook.sourceforge.net/ Any other findings? Jon -- Jonathan Phillips <jon@...15...>

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] RE: keyboard shortcuts + man page
by bulia byak 22 Jan '04

22 Jan '04

>For Windows, you need to consider converting the files >to Windows help files. That is all, as the OS has its >own viewer. Which is why I wonder if we'd be better off with HTML files. There's a browser on any system, and no conversions are necessary. Actually some Windows programs use HTML too, instead of Windows help. The only issue is determining the default browser. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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RE: keyboard shortcuts + man page
by bulia byak 21 Jan '04

21 Jan '04

>From: Jonathan Phillips <jon@...15...> >I have not done much looking into adding the keyboard shortcuts and man >page to the help menu for the next release. I really want to do this >task, but could you use any help pointing me how to do this. > >I wonder what the best way to accomplish this task would be? I guess we >could add a link to the keyboard shortcuts page to the webpage where the >shortcut keys are located, or we could set up a file where the keyboard >keys are located in the source and you could edit that file so that on >CVS build, all keys are updated accordingly. I think Inkscape should ship with its own copy of help files in HTML, corresponding to the release. I think I will move the shortcuts from Wiki to XML and set up generating HTML in makefile. So, you can assume that the distribution includes an HTML file; your task is to run browser on it. As to the best way to run browser, I'm not sure. I doubt there is a cross-platform reliable way to detect the default browser and run it, but I may be wrong - anyone? If we cannot access default browser, perhaps we should store a browser executable path in preferences. But that's ugly. >Another idea is to start to use YELP from GNOME world. Never seen it. Anyone has an opinion on Yelp? >Another thing, did you realize that Inkscape can open files from URLs. I >opened a few svg examples from croczilla.com/svg/ from the commandline. Sounds like this could be added to Tips-and-tricks page. >I think we should add an open file from url menu item. Why not, try to do it - it should not be difficult. _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

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NR::Point data
by MenTaLguY 21 Jan '04

21 Jan '04

Just a quick note that NR::Point's 'pt' data member is now private; use its operator[]() instead. (since NR::Point::operator[] returns a reference, it can be used as an lvalue, thusly: somepoint[NR::X] = somevalue; ) -mental

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] more [] <> fun
by bulia byak 21 Jan '04

21 Jan '04

>Hold down on one of the rotate keys with the XML editor open (watching the >object coordinates) and the object will quickly fly off the screen with >large compounded errors in the cordinates. Indeed. This may be related to https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=879249&group_id=9… It may be that XML editor slows dows something enough for this effect to become worse, but it looks like the same problem can be observed without the XML editor open. I'm almost sure that my code is not the culprit; probably it just makes some deeper problem more obvious. With mouse, nobody could make so many transformations so quickly, and so this problem remained unnoticed. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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news: page options, dialogs
by bulia byak 21 Jan '04

21 Jan '04

I ported the support for page background color and border color from sodipodi. It uses sodipodi:namedview for storing them, so I also moved the recently added page shadow option from preferences to namedview for consistency. This means it may be different in different documents and is saved with the document, as is the page size, background color, etc. To set all these options for newly created documents, edit the sodipodi:namedview template in your ~/.inkscape/preferences.xml. I also ported the color selectors for the page and border colors; they are now on the Page tab of the Document Options dialog. And while at it, I finally moved the former "document settings" dialog stuff here and removed that dialog. No more confusion: now we have one Document Options dialog (Ctrl+Shift+D) which sets everything that will be saved with the document (as opposed to Inkscape Options which is supposed to set options independent of documents). Now the Dialogs menu contains just two "stray" dialogs that are planned for elimination, and is generally much less confusing than before. Of course the dialogs need a lot of work still, but that could wait until Gtkmm. _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] zooming by wheel
by bulia byak 20 Jan '04

20 Jan '04

>Please use keybindings consistantly. Please use Ctrl+Wheel for Zooming >instead of Shift+Wheel. I was not proposing shift-wheel to zoom; it was coded already, I just changed the centering behavior. We have this item in the roadmap: * Decide on mouse scrollwheel modifiers [everyone, see mailing list archives] So, once you raised the issue, could you please review the current wheel behaviors: # Mouse wheel scroll canvas vertically # Ctrl + Mouse wheel scroll canvas horizontally # Shift + Mouse wheel zoom in or out and propose a change to conform to HIG, but without losing any of the three functions. After you publish your proposal here, if no one objects, I will code it. _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

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zooming by wheel
by bulia byak 20 Jan '04

20 Jan '04

I used cursor coordinates (instead of window center) when zooming in/out by scrollwheel with Shift. So you can position mouse over any object and zoom into it without moving mouse. But I can't test it as I don't have a wheel mouse. Could anyone with a wheel mouse please test it? _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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more [] <> fun
by bulia byak 20 Jan '04

20 Jan '04

Today my daughter enjoyed Inkscape thus: draw a freehand line, click the node tool, select all nodes, and press-and-hold <, >, [, ] randomly. Lots of fun from the "dancing zuka." ("Zuka" means approximately "an unidentifiable funny shape".) The new shortcuts listed below more or less close my list of planned new features for the release. From now on I'm focusing on bugs and urge everyone to do the same. There's one problem I discovered in X keyboard handling: pressing both Alts with some other keys results in Alt being stuck, and you'll have to press single Alt plus something to unstick it. I don't know if this is a bug in X (it works this way everywhere, so it's certainly not an Inkscape problem) or some sort of feature that I don't know how to turn off. Any ideas? Node tool shortcuts (F2, n) * [, ] rotate both control handles around the node by the global rotate step (default 15 degrees) * Left Ctrl+[, Left Ctrl+], Right Ctrl+[, Right Ctrl+] rotate one of the controls by the global rotate step * Left Alt+[, Left Alt+], Right Alt+[, Right Alt+] rotate one of the handles by the angle corresponding to 1 pixel (actual angle depends on zoom) * Left Alt+Right Alt+[, Left Alt+Right Alt+] rotate both controls by the angle corresponding to 1 pixel * <, > make both control handles shorter or longer by the scale step (default 2 pt) * Left Ctrl+<, Left Ctrl+>, Right Ctrl+<, Right Ctrl+> make one of the control handles shorter or longer by the scale step (default 2 pt) * Left Alt+<, Left Alt+>, Right Alt+<, Right Alt+> make one of the control handles shorter or longer by 1 pixel (actual distance depends on zoom) * Left Alt+Right Alt+<, Left Alt+Right Alt+> make both control handles shorter or longer by 1 pixel Note: Instead of the < and > keys, you can use the , (comma) and . (period) keys respectively _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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