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Re: [Inkscape-devel] new keys for the panel
by bulia byak 11 Jan '04

11 Jan '04

>Here's a readers' digest summary of how Inkscape accelerators work: Thanks! I put this into wiki for developers to benefit. Please everyone, if you have grokked some aspect of the program well enough, please take time to document it on wiki. So, Mental, what is your advice for alt-x and alt-z - add gtk accelerators or manually send focus to specific widgets? I tend to think the latter would be simpler, and I don't think that much more "activate widget" actions will be needed anyway. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/photos&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjo…

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] Patch to tidy up the print destination dialog
by bulia byak 11 Jan '04

11 Jan '04

>Just checked out inkscape and noticed that the Print Destination dialog >that does three things Thanks, applied. Actually printing has more severe problems at the moment (see bug 850936), but any help is appreciated :) _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoi…

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Patch to tidy up the print destination dialog
by iain 11 Jan '04

11 Jan '04

Hi guys, Just checked out inkscape and noticed that the Print Destination dialog that does three things 1) Capitalises the whole dialog name "to Print Destination" rather than "Print destination" 2) Removes the separator 3) Switches the Print and Cancel buttons around to fit with the GNOME HIG (Dunno if you're wanting to follow it, but the Open/Save dialogs are using it for their button arrangements) iain

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Survey: Motivations to Contribute
by Ralph Spitzer 11 Jan '04

11 Jan '04

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More cosmetics
by bulia byak 11 Jan '04

11 Jan '04

* More screen real estate: you can now hide rulers (Ctrl+R) and scrollbars (Ctrl+B). These settings are not yet stored in prefs but are planned to. I also added three toggle commands (grid, rulers, scrollbars) to the View menu. One missing command is toggle guides - it's still broken. Someone needs to look into it. I also removed the 3D border from the canvas frame, so now the rulers (when they're on) look less bulky and intrusive. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/photos&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjo…

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] screenshot-ready
by bulia byak 11 Jan '04

11 Jan '04

>>>It seems like the icon for the far left "Zoom drawing if window size >>>changes" is not taking up all the space of the widget. >> >> >>This button is planned for elimination anyway, there will be a global >>switch to that effect in preferences instead. > >Do you think so? I think both behaviours are common and would be better >serviced by an accessible button. Of course, I'm not a big user of >inkscape, so I am happy if I'm wrong. This switch makes sense for an SVG viewer - in it, if you resize a window, you want the drawing to resize as well, if only because you have no other ways to zoom or pan it. With an editor, your window is indeed a _window_ showing you the part of the landscape you're working on; and of course when you open your window wider or narrower the landscape does not change. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoi…

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] screenshot-ready
by bulia byak 11 Jan '04

11 Jan '04

>It seems like the icon for the far left "Zoom drawing if window size >changes" is not taking up all the space of the widget. This button is planned for elimination anyway, there will be a global switch to that effect in preferences instead. >Also, it seems like the status bar text should be vertically aligned in >the center to flow with vertical alignment with the other elements at >the bottom of the document window. That would be perfect, but I could not find a way to affect the vertical padding or alignment of a gtk_statusbar. Any advice from the GTK experts in the audience? :) BTW, Jon, any progress with the Help menu? I would love to have at least the keyboard shortcuts and the man page there for the upcoming release. The keyboard shortcuts page is the most important - it may well be sufficient for clueful users to learn the entire program even without the manual. Will the help menu commands call a browser on an HTML page? If so I wll prepare a better formatted version of the shortcuts page in HTML. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/photos&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjo…

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screenshot-ready
by bulia byak 11 Jan '04

11 Jan '04

I've just committed a few cosmetic changes to the document window, mostly reducing the font size of things. IMHO it looks very awkward and unprofessional when everything uses the same font size. Another advantage is a bit more screen space for the image itself. Comments welcome. In particular, I simplified the ruler pango code by Daniel Borgmann so that now it uses a fixed font size (defined in widgets/widget-sizes.h) instead of trying to determine the default GTK font size. This makes sense, because everything else in the ruler has fixed pixel sizes, so the font must be fixed too. The zoom spinbutton is now finally editable again (using the same code as the top panel spinbuttons). I will assign alt-z to jump to it when I figure out the gtk accelerators (or decide that they are not worth the trouble and implement it via a verb). The coordinate display now uses gtk_label instead of statusbar. This gives better alignment and removes the border which helps differentiate it from the real statusbar (which now has more space to itself). Mental, will you please comment out the detachability of the top panel for now, as we discussed? Anyone has any idea of this bug: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=874205&group_id=9… This looks like a GTK problem to me, but maybe there's a smart trick that would get rid of that. It's minor but annoying. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoi…

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] 4 signals sent from sliders
by bulia byak 11 Jan '04

11 Jan '04

>The color sliders emit four different signals: > >grabbed >dragged >released >changed > >However, comparable GTK+ widgets only emit a single signal: > >changed > >and follow up with a gboolean xxx_is_adjusting() function. I'm not sure, but the best way to test is to try disabling the extra signals and see if something will break. Commit the change and we'll try to find anything wrong with it. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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new keys for the panel
by bulia byak 11 Jan '04

11 Jan '04

The panel The panel at the top of the document window displays a different set of fields and controls for each tool. * Alt+x jump to the first editable field in the secondary toolbar * Enter set the current field's new value (if changed) and leave the secondary toolbar * Esc cancel any changes in the current field and leave the secondary toolbar * Ctrl+z cancel any changes in the current field * Tab, Shift+Tab jump between fields in the secondary toolbar (the value in the field you leave, if changed, is set) * Up/Down arrows change the current value by 0.1 * PgUp/PgDn change the current value by 5.0 This is the basic set of keybindings that makes the panel (aka secondary toolbar, but I like the "panel" term better) usable. Some of this functionality was provided by GTK but had to be cleaned up, some was implemented from scratch. Not to start a flamewar, but my impression of GTK so far is not too favorable: messy, underdocumented, somewhat similar to GIMP itself in its "interface" (I mean the programmer's interface, not only GUI). I don't know if other toolkits are much better, though. Questions for everyone: - alt-x: I like this shortcut, but if anyone will propose a better one I will be glad to hear. - Is alt-x plus tab/shift-tab enough for navigating the toolbar, or do we want each widget to have its own shortcut? Or will this be too much, with potentially tens of widgets in all tools? Of course such shortcuts would use consistent modifiers and would correspond to the widget labels, e.g. for the selector toolbar: ctrl-alt-x, ctrl-alt-y, ctrl-alt-w, ctrl-alt-h. - Now alt-x is implemented very stupidly, through grab_focus of a specific widget. I tried to use GTK "accelerators" but was unable to make them work. Does anyone know if Inkscape uses GTK accelerators? If not, how are the global verbs implemented? If I manage to add an accelerator group to the top-level document window, will it conflict with verbs? Can one point me to a not-too-complex GTK app that uses accelerators so I could figure it out? (The documentation is very scarce.) P.S. I've tried to send this message several times. Guess what, sourceforge was rejecting it as spam because in the phrase "through grab_focus" I had "via" instead of "through" - which matched the regexp for some well-known substance name! Oh my. Hope it will pass through this time. _________________________________________________________________ Check out the new MSN 9 Dial-up � fast & reliable Internet access with prime features! http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=dialup/home&ST=1

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