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Re: [Inkscape-devel] handling statusbar messages
by bulia byak 15 Dec '03

15 Dec '03

>If the actual check is done in SPText (I forget if it is), then it needs >to have some way of signaling that failure to its caller (an >SPTextContext method, in this case). OK, here's another one for you: knot.c, sp_knot_handler(), available are SPCanvasItem, GdkEvent, SPKnot. I want to explain in the statusbar when Esc cancels node drag. How do I get an SPView? (Sorry to keep bothering you, but I'm not too familiar with the hierarchy of objects.) _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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some questions/suggestions
by Alexander Kirillov 15 Dec '03

15 Dec '03

Hi, just checked out version 0.36 - great job! Still, there are 2 issues that have always bugged me in sodipodi and still bug me in inkscape. If some one can suggest a workaround, I'd be glad to hear it. If not, maybe i should file this as wishlist items in bug tracker... 1. Is there an easy way of creating a closed Bezier curve? Of course, one can create an open one and then connect endpoints, but it is a long process... 2. When copying an object, the copied object is put at exactly the same position as the original. Am I the only one who finds it inconvenient? I frequently need to have several copies of the same object in different places my drawings, and selecting one of the two objects which are literally on top of each other is awkward, especially if the objects are small. I'd much prefer that "paste" creates a floating object, which follows mouse cursor, and you click to show where to put it. What do the usability experts say about such an idea? Best, Sasha PS. Please cc me when replying: I am not subscribed to the list.

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The GPL'd database for Loads of Linux Links now includes http://www.inkscape.org/ (fwd)
by Bryce Harrington 15 Dec '03

15 Dec '03

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 12:33:16 -0800 (PST) From: Barbara E. Irwin <beirwin@...106...> To: bryce@...58..., buliabyak@...58..., mental@...107..., njh@...58... Subject: The GPL'd database for Loads of Linux Links now includes http://www.inkscape.org/ I've recently included the Inkscape website on the Loads of Linux Links project website, which can be found here: http://loll.sourceforge.net/linux/links/index.html Complete details of this project can be found here: http://loll.sourceforge.net/announce-1.1.0.html I have classified the website under: Graphics. Thanks for the link! Barbara ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Barbara Irwin beirwin@...106... Victoria, B.C. Canada The Roman Rule: The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it.

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absolute path
by bulia byak 15 Dec '03

15 Dec '03

Regarding this bug: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=860202&group_id=93… does anyone else think that document.cpp must store the absolute path already, i.e. instead of document->uri = g_strdup (uri); in sp_document_create we should have something like document->uri = abs_path (uri, base); That would fix the above bug. If so what standard function is there for creating an absolute path? I could not find one in glib. _________________________________________________________________ Shop online for kids� toys by age group, price range, and toy category at MSN Shopping. No waiting for a clerk to help you! http://shopping.msn.com

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] some questions/suggestions
by bulia byak 15 Dec '03

15 Dec '03

>1. Is there an easy way of creating a closed Bezier curve? Of course, >one can create an open one and then connect endpoints, but it is a long >process... In freehand and bezier tools, just press 'a'. It will then display anchors at both ends of the curve being created, and by drawing to these anchors you will close the curve. And closing a curve in node editor is in fact not difficult at all. >2. When copying an object, the copied object is put at exactly the same >position as the original. Am I the only one who finds it inconvenient? I >frequently need to have several copies of the same object in different >places my drawings, and selecting one of the two objects which are >literally on top of each other is awkward, especially if the objects are >small. I'd much prefer that "paste" creates a floating object, which >follows mouse cursor, and you click to show where to put it. What do the >usability experts say about such an idea? Actually you CAN move a pasted or duplicated object with arrow keys, because it's selected. Press ctrl-d and then arrows, it's very convenient imho. But I plan to change the paste command so it by default pastes in the center of the visible canvas, and a variant of this command (e.g. with shift or alt) pastes to where the object was copied from. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoi…

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] handling statusbar messages
by bulia byak 15 Dec '03

15 Dec '03

>No, it just means that status bar messages need to be set from places >that know which SPView they're operating on behalf of (if any), or less >likely that an SPView needs to be passed in somewhere that it currently >isn't. > >Maybe we need to step back a moment though -- which g_warnings do you >want to turn into status bar messages, "Non-printable character" >and why? Because the user needs some feedback to understand why a character he typed in (most likely in Unicode mode, but not necessarily) did not appear on the screen. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/features&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin…

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C++ conversion
by MenTaLguY 15 Dec '03

15 Dec '03

The switch to C++ is essentially complete. Please do a clean checkout. -mental

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] handling statusbar messages
by bulia byak 15 Dec '03

15 Dec '03

>On Sun, 2003-12-14 at 22:19, bulia byak wrote: > > Here's a quick question. I want to display the warnings on the statusbar > > (instead of g_warning) in sp_text_insert in sp-text.c. What I have at >this > > point is just an SPText object. How do I go from it to SPView? I see no > > members in _SPText that I could usefully -> to. > >There is not a 1:1 relationship between SPTexts and SPViews. Which means, we need to set the status of the global current desktop, after all? _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/photos&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjo…

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] handling statusbar messages
by bulia byak 15 Dec '03

15 Dec '03

>The easy way would be to have sp_verb_get_action() create SPActions on a >per-SPView basis (currently only one SPAction is created for each verb, >globally). > >An SPView * can be stored in each SPAction, so the SPAction::perform() >callback will "know" which SPView * (i.e. SPDesktop *) it applies to. > >Voila. No more need for using SP_ACTIVE_DESKTOP in verbs. > >sp_verb_get_action() is only used in a very few places, so the change >should be very non-intrusive, but it will (among other things) finally >let us implement per-desktop tool states correctly. Sounds good. Please add this to the roadmap :) Here's a quick question. I want to display the warnings on the statusbar (instead of g_warning) in sp_text_insert in sp-text.c. What I have at this point is just an SPText object. How do I go from it to SPView? I see no members in _SPText that I could usefully -> to. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/features&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin…

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] sp_status_display()/sp_status_clear()
by bulia byak 15 Dec '03

15 Dec '03

> static SPDrawAnchor * > sp_draw_anchor_new (SPDrawContext *dc, SPCurve *curve, gboolean start, >gdouble dx, gdouble dy) > { > SPDrawAnchor *a; > > sp_status_display(g_strdup_printf ("Creating anchor at %g %g", >dx, dy)); > ... > return a; > } > >Admittedly, the "original" would have been overly complex. The thing >is, I think we have to be careful not to simplify the wrong things. > >For example, why did we need the last parameter to sp_view_set_status() >anyway? It's never actually used. It seems a good candidate to remove. Done. >Also, shifting half the burden of memory management off is not a bad >thing, but why not get both ends? Otherwise to people other than >authors of sp_status_display(), it looks like a memory leak. Sure, I would have done that myself, if only I knew how to define functions with variable number of arguments :) Now that you've shown me how to do that, I'll be able to avoid such things. I see you could not wait and removed my functions replacing them with yours :) Sorry I'll now overwrite your changes, replacing them with still better functions that have time control (but implemented using your _statusf internally). Right now I have one problem that I need help with. The stupid gtk_timeout_add can only pass one argument to the function it calls, but I need two arguments to remove the message: the statusbar * and the message_id. I tried packing them into a struct and passing a pointer to the struct, but here are two problems: - if the struct is static, things break when a new timed message is displayed while a previous one's timeout has not yet elapsed, because the new call of the message display function will overwrite the static struct contents, and only the last message will be removed and the previous one will stuck forever; - if the struct is local to the message display function, it does not work at all, because its content is lost when the function is over. What I want is a way to pack the contents of the struct itself, not a pointer to it, to pass to gtk_timeout_add. But it won't convert a struct into a gpointer that this function requires. What to do? A workaround might be to pass only message_id (converted to gpointer) and leave the statusbar stored in a global variable. But that is ugly and unreliable. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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