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Re: [Inkscape-devel] transient dialogs
by Cezary Biele 11 Nov '03

11 Nov '03

bb> Please test the CVS HEAD with this change and report any problems you may bb> have with this dialog (ctrl-shift-f). If there are none, I will make all bb> other dialogs and the toolbar transient too. at last! it works great for me! please add other toolboxes. best regards yemu

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export without antialiasing
by Yemu 11 Nov '03

11 Nov '03

i ve been talking on the jabber with nathan yesterday about exporting without AA, and he told me to try to remove "ifs" from libnr/nr-svp-render.c (make them always true) which should remove antialiasing globally i did remeve them, recompiled and here are the effects: - icons and all objects in document look ugly :-) no antialiasing :-) - exported png at high resolutions (i.e. 600dpi) look good. objects look ok, text looks a little bit worse, but is acceptable (you can check example here: http://www.yemu.website.pl/test3.png) concluding: maybe it would be possible to add an option to export dialog (no-antialiasing -EXPERIMENTAL) or something like that. best regards yemu ps. i've just checked out cvs and i must say InkScape rulez!

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I'm new here and I'd like to wish you best of luck with InkScape
by Alan Horkan 11 Nov '03

11 Nov '03

I'm new here and I'd like to wish you best of luck with InkScape, it really sounds like a good idea. Firstly congratulations on choosing a name I can immediately pronounce, that is not an acronym, that I'm not embarassed to admit I use or say out loud and that does not feature an over abundance of G, Q, or K that seem to plague so many other projects (I'm sure you all can guess the ones I'm talking about). I found out about Inkscape from a story on Gnomedesktop.org which from the various posts I'm sure you are well aware of but I think it might be worth linking from your news page (and this mail did invite suggestions http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=3434272&forum_id=360… ) I'm also having minor difficulty downloading this file, I only get the top chunk http://www.inkscape.org/mockups/export_dialog_02.png Which leads me to my next point, the Export Dialog. Rather than make specific criticism of each approach I would put it to you that it would be best to use a standard Save Dialog with an additional "Options..." Button. The Options button would prompt uses to change the export settings, these should probably also be available through some sort of Import/Export preferences dialog. Why do it this way? Other programs do it this way but more importantly that that I can promise you that users will not want to change the export settings each and every time, and being able to set them once (or just once for the current session or project) and keep reusing the same settings until you feel the need to change them and keep them out of your way. (This is an approach I have been advocating quite strongly on the Gnome usability list mailto:usability@...45... so that when the GTK File Open Save As dialog gets redesigned that developers will have a clear and standard way to extend it rather than cluttering the dialog with all manner of new features.) The website says "We aim for capabilities similar to Illustrator, CorelDraw, Visio, etc." I hope you will also aim for a user interface similar to those programs, except of course when there is a clearly better alternative. You'd be amazed how lost I feel in Sodipodi as it does(/did) not have a menubar or document toolbars. Keeping the interfaces similar makes it much easier to reuse existing books tutorials and other resources already targeting the dominant software and also helps kill off the distasteful "marketable skills in the workplace" crap that I'm forced to admit happens all too often. I'm a fan of portable cross platform software - who know what Operating System we'll be running in 5 years, but I'd like to still be able to use my favourite software - but at the same time I encourage you to not just get involved with Gnome and try to follow the Gnome Human Interface Guidelines (HIG) where you think it is appropriate but also help push for changes and more flexability where you really dont think the Guidelines are appropriate. I wish you the very best of luck with InkScape and I hope you can make the most of its potential and satisfy so many potential users out there. Sincerely Alan Horkan http://advogato.org/person/AlanHorkan/ PS I've subscribed to the list digest so that I can lurk and I'm fairly busy at the moment, but if you would like me to try and respond more promptly please CC me in your replies.

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OSX Patch
by T Ingham 11 Nov '03

11 Nov '03

I had mistakenly thought that my patch to remove the malloc.h includes ( replacing them with unistd.h ) had been applied. It hasn't, and I'd like to know if anyone else has trouble making without the includes to malloc. If this is not the case ( meaning no problems ) then can we get the cvs updated so I don't have to apply the patch myself every time I update :) Thanks, Thomas

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Release 0.36
by Ted Gould 11 Nov '03

11 Nov '03

Hey all, I think it's probably time to start planning the next release, or atleast decide when it's going to be. The GNOME folks rave about time based releases, and think they are the best way to do Open Source software. I think this mostly comes from giving everyone a timeline to get features into the repository. But, Bryce has done a really good job of making Milestones also - and I think that if we set "Milestone 2" as when we're going to do the next release that would be reasonable too. Thoughts? Ideas? --Ted

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Updating the site.
by T Ingham 11 Nov '03

11 Nov '03

I've added a wiki entry at: http://www.inkscape.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UpdatingWebsite Please review and provide feedback/ flames. -thomas

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inkscape_project module
by Bryce Harrington 11 Nov '03

11 Nov '03

I've established a new CVS module 'inkscape_project'. Same sort of idea as the project_config module we set up for Sodipodi: It's a place to put config files, scripts, docs, and other assorted goodies that aren't really directly related to the codebase but need to be kept revision controlled and backed up for the project. I've put a copy of the wiki into it, the config for the IRC bot we used for #sodipodi (anyone want to figure out how to set up a jabber bot?) and a readme. Bryce

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Inkscape debug output
by Robert Crosbie 11 Nov '03

11 Nov '03

After selecting Inkscape->About Inkscape and seeing 421 "ensure outline - outlines" and "finalize - outlines" fly by on the console, It got me thinking about debugging messages. It seems that many modules in inkscape turn on or off debugging by #defining a variable. It might be nice to be able to set a global debugging variable and/or debugging level through some method such as a command line option or an environment variable. You could call 'Inkscape --debug 3' or 'setenv INKSCAPE_DEBUG 1' As a developer it saves the time needed to undefine a variable and recompile, just to get debugging output. I've seen other applications with debugging levels such as 1 = LOW to 5 = HIGH, or from less detailed to very detailed. Another option is to have a './configure --DEBUG' to turn on or off debugging. This way you can still ifdef the debugging messages and have them displayed during development, but you can stop them from even being compiled for a release version. Cheers, Rob. http://members.rogers.com/rcrosbie _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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Problem with files not loading back in properly
by Jon A. Cruz 11 Nov '03

11 Nov '03

I tracked down the problem where I was having problems loading in files that I had made. It turns out that my config setup Makefiles with a VERSION of 0.0. This of course ends up being written in any files I save, and thus they are misinterpreted on reading. Since it's an autoconf issue, not code, I'm not up to speed enough to come up with a patch. :-( So I figure someone on the list can take care of it. Let me know if you need any follow-up info. Oh, and for detecting this in the future, I was wondering if checks for 0.0 and warning dialogs at startup and/or file loading might be handy. It would end up preventing lost time on strange behavior.

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Cafepress
by Ted Gould 11 Nov '03

11 Nov '03

The other night we were talking about setting up a cafepress store for the really cool inkscape logo - what do people think? Mental mentioned that he was concerned about where the money would go. I was thinking two things: 1) We just sell things at cost. I don't know if you can do this with Cafepress, but I would assume you could. 2) We donate all the profits (probably a couple bucks) back to Sourceforge. What do you guys think? I'm willing to set it up and get/write checks to make the second one happen. --Ted

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