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Hackfest catering and venue information
by Alex Valavanis 04 Apr '16

04 Apr '16

[Can ignore if you're not attending the Hackfest!] Hi All, Some information about the Hackfest venue, and a request for your dietary requirements... == Venue == The Hackfest venue will be in the Evans Room at Devonshire Hall in the Hyde Park area of Leeds [1]. It is a traditional "Oxbridge style" stone-built hall. Our meeting room will accommodate 10 delegates. == Catering == A buffet lunch will be provided each day. I will suggest that we break for lunch at 1300 each day, unless there are any objections. Please let me know by tomorrow if you have any special dietary requirements. There will also be an unlimited supply of tea, coffee and biscuits. Sugar, milk and soy milk will be provided. == Facilities == * Wireless networking * UK mains power (remember to bring your own socket adapters if you're coming from outside the UK!!) * Data projector & screen * Flipchart and pens == Nearby amenities == There are a few pubs, bars, cafes and coffee shops 5 minutes walk away from the venue if we want a change of scenery. There is also a small convenience store. The venue is located on the Woodhouse Ridge nature trail if you want to step out for some fresh air [2]. == Local contact == I live within walking distance of the venue. Send me a message if you get stuck! I'll also be free on the Sunday evening before the Hackfest if anyone would like to meet for food/drink in Leeds City Centre. Best wishes, Alex [1] http://www.meetinleeds.co.uk/devonshire-hall [2] http://www.woodhouseridge.org.uk/

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Proposal for building Windows devlibs and for windows build environment setup
by Michael Soegtrop 02 Apr '16

02 Apr '16

Dear LRN, > 1) I would suggest MSYS2 to be used (instead of Cygwin), as a shortcut, as > it cuts down the number of packages that need to be built. Using MSYS2 > might also be faster (because compatibility layer will be thinner than Cygwin). I made quite extensive tests of cygwin with MinGW cross vs MSys2 and came to the conclusion that cygwin requires much less patching and messing around than MinGW for building most libs. The only advantage of MSys2 is that GTK and all its dependencies are available pre-built, but the MinGW GTK build on cygwin is fairly straight forward, it just takes build time. On cygwin I mostly use a generic download / configure / make / install shell function for building. Some libraries need a patch or two, but with cygwin this is the exception, not the rule. I think that maintainability and cleanliness is more important than build time, since most people won't touch the libs and build them at most once a quarter. As long as it is fully automated, I don't care if it takes 3 hours. Another reason I finally settled with cygwin is that the scripts are 99% identical to what is needed for a cross build on Linux. The deviations with MSys2 tend to be larger. But I guess this is a topic one can argue about forever. How about we share our scripts, experience and ideas and work on both MSys2 and cygwin+MinGW in parallel and see what is easier in the end? Most of the work is solving specific build issues and it would be great to have someone to discuss this. I would suggest that we take this off list. I send you my scripts stripped down to what is shared between inkscape and my original project later today via private mail. Best regards, Michael

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Git
by Krzysztof Kosiński 02 Apr '16

02 Apr '16

Eventually we probably need to move to Git. The user interface is completely atrocious, but the fact it works from a single directory by default is very convenient when using Eclipse, and Eclipse is an elephantine monstrosity but has good code navigation. This could also encourage more people to contribute, since almost all OSS developers know Git, while a very limited number know Bazaar at this point. The bug tracker and answer tracker should definitely stay on Launchpad, but what about the code? Should we use Launchpad's nascent Git support, or some other site like Github? What people think? We can convert lib2geom first and apply the lessons learned to Inkscape. Best regards, Krzysztof

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Proposal for building Windows devlibs and for windows build environment setup
by Michael Soegtrop 02 Apr '16

02 Apr '16

Dear Inkscape Team, I have a proposal for improving the delivery for the windows libs and for setting up a build environment. The current method of delivering binary libs has two disadvantages: 1.) it restricts the user to a very specific binary gcc build (at least the docs say so). 2.) it is tricky to check if this delivery method is GPL compliant. According to GPL if you deliver binaries you also have to deliver sources, and it is a lot of work to check all libs licenses and to check if all required sources are in the delivery. Please note that it is NOT sufficient to say "this is standard GPL software and you can download the sources from the official sources". If you delivery binaries, you have to deliver the sources. Now to my proposal: for another open source project I created 2 scripts: one which automatically sets up a fresh cygwin with MinGW cross support and whatever else is needed and another one which downloads and builds a bunch of libraries and apps from sources, including GTK, cairo and pango. About 70% of the libs inkscape requires are built by this script, so it wouldn't be that much work to add the remaining 30%. This does not just setup a build environment and builds everything automatically, it also documents exactly what was used and how it was built (and possibly patched). So my proposal would be to instead of delivering the libs as binaries and lengthy instructions just deliver these two scripts. The scripts are fairly simple and well documented. The build for inkscape and all its libs from scratch would likely be 2..3 hours on a decent machine. Would others appreciate such a mechanism to build inkscape on windows? Usually it would be a single call to a DOS batch file to setup cygwin and start the download and build process. Best regards, Michael

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Hackfest Topics and Agenda
by Tavmjong Bah 01 Apr '16

01 Apr '16

Hi all, We're getting close to the Hackfest. Please add your topics and agenda items to: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Hackfest2016_Topics You don't have to be participating in the hackfest to add things! Thanks, Tav

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Fwd: CMake Windows build: should it work?
by Michael Soegtrop 01 Apr '16

01 Apr '16

Dear Inkscape Team, I was on travel an wanted to work a bit on my embroidery stuff on the way. Unfortunately I just had a Windows laptop with me and I found that building the latest trunk version on Windows with CMake doesn't work out of the box. First question: is this supposed to work or is CMake for Windows work in progress? I could only get it to build after adding a few libs. Also the order in which libs are given to the linker I had to change. The make install target just installs gettext stuff, nothing else, which makes it tricky to run the built exe. In case this is known to not work, any nobody is working on this, I could work on fixing this (I am already quite far). Otherwise are there some docs on how to configure it correctly with CMake on Windows? Best regards, Michael

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Board Meeting @ Friday Mar 4th, 2016
by Bryce Harrington 31 Mar '16

31 Mar '16

Let's plan on doing a short meeting tomorrow, March 4th. It'll be in #inkscape-devel at noon Pacific time (2000 UTC). http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Board_Meetings Shortened Agenda is: * Hackfest 2016 * GSoC 2016 * Other business If time permits we'll tackle some of remaining topics from last meeting, but I'd like to keep the meeting to under an hour for folks, and to reserve as much as necessary for the hackfest and gsoc planning work. Bryce

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Participation in LGM [Design]
by Xaviju Julián 29 Mar '16

29 Mar '16

Hi everyone! Since this year is the LGM and the hackfest it could be a good moment to meet personally with some of you and talk/learn about the Inkscape interface design. In a conversation with Ilmari, from the LibreOffice team, he pointed out that they currently have a design team with great results. A design team could (should!) also include developers, who like to hack on the UI and how functionality is presented to the user. We are also part of the Open Source Design community with tons of designers with interest in contributing but have little idea on how to start contributing to projects like Inkscape. This Design team could help new contributors to be useful on the current development. We really want to contribute to Inkscape with our skills :) Do you think it would be good to create an official Design team inside Inkscape? In a conversation with Jabier he suggested us to meet in the hackfest in Leeds, we are a group of 2-3 designers going to the LGM and, if you think it would be useful to meet in the hackfest, we could make it to Leeds on 13th (arriving 12th night). Thanks, looking forward to meet at the LGM! Xavi

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Inkscape with touch screens?
by Brynn 29 Mar '16

29 Mar '16

Hi Friends, Occassionally we've had a message in forums about using Inkscape with a touch screen. And in the past I've always answered "not yet". But now I'm shopping for a new laptop, and approx 90% of the laptops available in my RAM range (16 gb) are "2 in 1" types which have touch screens. I've had to search rather closely to find a non-touch screen! If I look in the lower range of RAM (around 6 gb) the available systems are roughly split between touch and non-touch screens. But even then, it gives the impression that touchscreen computers are much more common than I had imagined. The last time I bought a new computer, touchscreens were rare! Anyway, I wanted to ask the development community -- will Inkscape ever be made to work using a touch screen, or will it always be mouse (or graphics tablet/pen) driven (also commandline)? Or is using a touch screen essentially the same as a graphics tablet, and Inkscape is already touch-capable? Thanks for some clarity (answer doesn't need to be very technical) :-) Thank you very much, brynn

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Dbus implementation
by Raphaël Bournhonesque 27 Mar '16

27 Mar '16

Hello, I've noticed that a Dbus application was written during a former GSOC event (2009), and I was wondering why it was not included by default in Inkscape. Does the implementation still need some work? I would be glad to work on this if needed. Best, Raphaël

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