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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Specification: Improved image properties dialog (0.48)
by Krzysztof Kosiński 28 Dec '09

28 Dec '09

W dniu 23 października 2009 17:18 użytkownik Jon A. Cruz <jon@...18...> napisał: > You are thinking of *your* intuition. There is roughly half the user > population who's intuition is the *opposite* of yours. You say that 50% of people prefer linking and 50% prefer embedding. I am certain this is not true. Most people expect the image to stay in place. When you send an email attachment, it is not a magical link to the data on your computer. When you paste an image into a Word / ODT file, it is not a link to that file on your hard disk. When you paste SVG elements from another document, they do not magically become a link to that second document. > However... I don't think the "Therefore" actually quite matches. Among other > issues, a drag-n-drop is actually a complex paste operation. So I think the > code is doing a few things you don't expect. Drag and drop is currently not related to pasting, because drag and drop is implemented in src/interface.cpp, and pasting in src/ui/clipboard.cpp. They don't use the same code path. In fact the import code is simpler, because imported / dragged items are put into a group. Not sure if that's what you meant. > Also for the import case, embedding will break things for many, many users. > We've looked at that a few times. For who, and in what cases? You sometimes say that a proposed solution will cause 'important issues for many users', but don't say what those issues actually are. > The good solution is to create a "media manager" that handles things like > images, linked css files, ICC profile files, etc. This would be great to have, along with UI improvements to enable using common styles. The image links manager proposed in this thread is a good start, and could be extended to Still, I think this is orthogonal to what the defaults are. > Things can then be worked > out with the UI and perhaps a "Publish" menu/command that does things a bit > more explicitly than "save as" or "export". I think that "Publish" is a stupidity cloned from Corel Draw. Why should saving a PDF be completely different from saving any other file? Moreover the name is misleading: you are actually not 'publishing' anything in the sense of showing it to the outside world. You are only saving a file. A better name is "save standalone document" or something like this, but I don't see a difference between this and Export. Regards, Krzysztof

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bzr - keeping the log linear
by Terry Brown 28 Dec '09

28 Dec '09

After the recent months worth of various people's commits becoming sub-revisions of one person's commits, I chatted on #bzr to see if there was a way to avoid this. Incidentally, the branch based workflow shown on the wiki will *cause* this problem, so I'll revise what's written there. Anyway, there is a bzr configuration flag which will prevent changes (other than extensions) to the log, i.e. it would refuse to accept the push which sidelines other people's commits. According to the #bzr people, this would set the flag on lp:inkscape python -c 'import bzrlib.branch as b; b.Branch.open("bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/path/to/branch").set_append_revisions_only(True)' (if the user has the required permissions) They also pointed out the current sidelining could be undone, I might see that's involved, but not really sure if it's worth it, seeing there's no real damage. Cheers -Terry

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Specification: Improved image
by Valerie 28 Dec '09

28 Dec '09

On the issue of linking vs embedding images: can't we just have 2 commands? - Embed an image - Link an image Those who don't understand what Link an image means probably expect the first behaviour anyway. I'm among those who was surprised by the behaviour. I use Inkscape as an image editor first. Even if Inkscape is used to create svg files which were initially destined for webpage content, the difference is inconsistent treatment of similar objects (from casual user POV). For html, there are: - Images (external objects, must be attached separately) - Text (part of the html file) For svg, for the really clueless user, there are: - Graphics - More graphics (just with fewer editing options) This is perhaps a simplistic view, but what do most users know about the subtleties of image objects? There's a whole segment of users out there for which Inkscape is "to create images, like Photoshop, except Inkscape uses vectors, which is like manipulating lines and moving around shapes instead of adding blobs of paint."

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bug 478157: Mid-markers are rendered above end-markers
by unknown＠example.com 28 Dec '09

28 Dec '09

Hi all, Who knows what determines the rendering order of the different markers? See https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/478157. Currently, endmarkers are drawn beneath midmarkers, although the code calls sp_marker_show_instance last for endmarkers. Perhaps this has to do with the 'key' that is passed to sp_marker_show_instance? (determines the layer?) Have a look at sp_shape_update_marker_view in sp-shape.cpp. Thanks, Johan

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Specification: Improved image propertiesdialog (0.48)
by Valerie 28 Dec '09

28 Dec '09

Just a small note on user cases: The lowest common denominator of Joe Schmoe out there (that can be expected to use Inkscape) is probably the Windows user who's only familiar with 2 programs: an internet browser and Microsoft Word. That's it. He's neither a webpage designer nor a raster graphics master. He's the type who (very regretfully) takes 2 MB photos, sends them as is to you by email, and doesn't even know (nor care) that he's doing it wrong (unfortunately, this is also about 90% of the people I've worked with...). Such a person's notion of copy/paste is: - Copy text. Paste in Word file. - Copy image. Paste in Word file. - If the image is modified, delete the original image and paste the new one in. - They don't expect anything they've pasted in to disappear when they move the file around or send it to their family/friends/boss. (and yes, that level of user may come to use Inkscape. I often use Inkscape to do charts for work, it's handy)

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Node tool progress
by Krzysztof Kosiński 27 Dec '09

27 Dec '09

Hello everyone. Good news: there are only three regressions left in the new node tool now. 1. Sculpting (Alt+drag) doesn't work. 2. Snapping nodes doesn't work. 3. Transforming one handle using the keyboard (left/right Ctrl and Alt + various keys) doesn't work Everything else should work like in the old one. I think 1 and 3 are not critical, so the only thing left to fix before the tool is ready for prime time is snapping. Bad news: snapping is a complex feature, particularly because I want to provide it for nodeset transforms. Additionally, there is some code in SnapManager that assumes only one editable path. It could be finished before the new year, but it could as well take another month. Regards, Krzysztof

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Passing data with sp_action_perform(SPAction *action, void * data)? [2]
by Alex Leone 25 Dec '09

25 Dec '09

Hello, (Sorry about the duplicate message - forgot to turn off rich text) I'm attempting to write a patch that adds a margin when setting page size through the "Fit page to selection" button in document properties. I've already added the ui elements (RegisteredScalarUnit's) for marginTop, marginLeft, etc, but I can't figure out how to get the values to the function that resizes the page. Here's how the page currently gets resized: 1. When clicked, "Fit page to selection" fires src/ui/widget/page-sizer.cpp: 487: PageSizer::fire_fit_canvas_to_selection_or_drawing() { Verb *verb = Verb::get( SP_VERB_FIT_CANVAS_TO_SELECTION_OR_DRAWING ); SPAction *action = verb->get_action(dt); sp_action_perform(action, NULL); } 2. sp_action_perform eventually calls src/verbs.cpp:2149: FitCanvasVerb::perform(SPAction *action, void *data, void */*pdata*/) { fit_canvas_to_selection_or_drawing(dt); } where the void *pdata parameter is the second argument from sp_action_perform. 3. This eventually calls src/document.cpp:601: SPDocument::fitToRect(Geom::Rect const &rect) My plan was to add marginTop, marginLeft, etc as parameters to SPDocument::fitToRect, and somehow pass these parameters through the void *data parameter in sp_action_perform. However, all the other calls to sp_action_perform in inkscape set the void *data parameter to NULL, and it looks like the action handler doesn't have any code to call free on the parameter after all the action listeners are serviced. Am I trying to do this completely wrong? Thanks, - Alex (Attached is a patch that adds the margin UI elements in document properties)

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A request and a thank-you to the Inkscape developers
by Michael Grosberg 25 Dec '09

25 Dec '09

Hello all, jsut wanted to thank all of you developers for creating this amazing piece of software, just made a nice Christmas card (sorry, "season's greetings" card, gotta be PC these days) for my boss with it and he loved it. Anyway, there's this feature request I made long ago and every so often some other guy pipes in with a "me too" and I get a reminder in my email about it. It;s a request to make inkscape remember dialogs window status: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/171579 That is, make dialogs such as layers, paint/stroke, align etc. stay open if I opened them in a previous session. This is really important guys! It's really helpful not to have to open them again whenever you open a file. It doesn't have to be a file-specific feature, it should be global, so once you set up the interface to your liking, it should just stay this way across all documents you open later. Also, the layers dialog always opens very small on my machine (showing maybe 2 layers) and I always have to resize it. I will thank you without end if you decide to implement this on 0.48.

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] [Bug 487038] Re: 0.47 build error with poppler 0.12.2 on Linux
by the Adib 25 Dec '09

25 Dec '09

So what about putting some effort in creating a poppler svg backend (as proposed earlier)? or should we move to plain poppler-glib connectors? my 2 ct. Adib. On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 1:00 AM, Launchpad Bug Tracker <487038@...1882...> wrote: > This bug was fixed in the package inkscape - 0.47.0-1ubuntu1 > > --------------- > inkscape (0.47.0-1ubuntu1) lucid; urgency=low > > * Merge with Debian testing (LP: #498150). Remaining changes: > - debian/control: > - promote python-lxml, python-numpy, python-uniconvertor to Recommends. > - demote pstoedit to Suggests (universe package). > - drop libssl-dev, no longer needed (Debian bug 484527). > - debian/rules: > - Handle parallel builds via -j (Debian bug 562226). > - Run intltool-update on build (Ubuntu-specific). > - Add translation domain to .desktop files (Ubuntu-specific). > - debian/watch: > - Correctly handle "pre" versions (Debian bug 562225). > * 50-poppler-API.patch, debian/control: poppler 0.12.2 changed the > GfxColorSpace API (LP: #487038). > > inkscape (0.47.0-1) unstable; urgency=low > > * Imported Upstream version 0.47 > * This is upstream version 0.47, I added the .0 because > I forget the ~ in the -pre versions. > * add proper Vcs-fields to debian/control > * upload sponsored by Guido Guenther <agx@...153...> > > inkscape (0.47pre4-1) unstable; urgency=low > > * Imported Upstream version 0.47pre4 > * upload sponsored by Guido Guenther <agx@...153...> > > inkscape (0.47pre2-2) unstable; urgency=low > > * fix installation of usr/share/application- > registry/inkscape.applications > * upload sponsored by Guido Guenther <agx@...153...> > > inkscape (0.47pre2-1) unstable; urgency=low > > * new upstream release (closes: #532277) > Improvements and new features include: > - code cleanups and refractoring > - autosave feature, configurable via Inkscape preferences > - new and enhanced tools, extensions and filters > - new path effects > - enhanced import and export features > - improved svg support > - many other improvements and new features. For a better and more > comprehensive decription of enhancements see the online release notes at > http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Release_notes/0.47 > * remove 04-only-use-valid-font-families-in-text-tool.dpatch > since there is a better fix in the code now (closes: #496784) > * remove other patches which are no longer needed: > - 01_mips.dpatch > - 02-poppler-0.8.3.dpatch > - 03-chinese-inkscape.dpatch > - 05_fix_latex_patch.dpatch > - 06_gcc-4.4.dpatch > - 07_cdr2svg.dpatch > - 08_skip-bad-utf-on-pdf-import.dpatch > - 09_gtk-clist.dpatch > - 10_belarussian.dpatch > - 12_desktop.dpatch > fix patch permissions in clean target > * upload sponsored by Guido Guenther <agx@...153...> > * build-depend on libgsl0-dev > * small adations to debian/rules > -- Kees Cook <kees@...1792...> Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:38:43 -0800 > > ** Changed in: inkscape (Ubuntu Lucid) > Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released > > -- > 0.47 build error with poppler 0.12.2 on Linux > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/487038 > You received this bug notification because you are a member of Inkscape > Bug Team, which is subscribed to Inkscape. >

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autopackage
by Alexandre Prokoudine 24 Dec '09

24 Dec '09

Hi, Any ideas what happened to the person who used to provide autopackages? :) P.S. Merry Christmas :) Alexandre

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