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Re: Final Voting for About Screen Contest for Inkscape 1.0
by Maren Hachmann 02 Dec '19

02 Dec '19

Hi Ben, reporting and triaging bugs is a valuable contribution. The project measures bug contributions by their number, completeness and general helpfulness. This works just like it does with our developer contributions, where code commits must be made towards the repository, and verified by other developers in order to make it into the AUTHORS list (list of Inkscape code and translation contributors) and to have the right to vote. We would like to count your vote, though. To do so, we have to see more bug-related contributions, e.g. bug triage in the tracker at https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inbox/issues/, or bug migration contributions as per http://alpha.inkscape.org/bug-migration/ . If you are using alternate usernames, be sure to mention all the names you work under (sometimes we can't find all the work people do due to different nick names). Thank you for all the work that you've done for Inkscape. Regards Maren Am 02.12.19 um 13:52 schrieb Ben Griffin: > Sorry Maren, I will explain.. > > For Inkscape, so far, I have been a bug reporter. As a job I am a > developer, and much that developers need and love bug reports, > generally it can be a PITA to have to deal with them.. > > So, I was making a joke for those who have had to deal with me > recently. > >> On 2 Dec 2019, at 12:46, Maren Hachmann <maren(a)goos-habermann.de> >> wrote: >> >> Ben, what's 'basic PITA'? >> >> Maren >

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by brynn 26 Nov '19

26 Nov '19

Hi Friends, I've noticed a lot of spam in the mailing list lately. Should the mailing lists be somehow linked in with website moderation? Or is there some other way? One way or another, I would ask this spam to be somehow controlled. Even just the 3 or 4 messages I've seen lately, are far too many. Thanks for listening. brynn

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Re: Inkscape 1.0 course for LinkedIn Learning
by Bryce Harrington 22 Nov '19

22 Nov '19

Hi Mike, Thanks for contacting me, and double-thanks for your work at helping increase the number of Inkscape exprts. It's lovely to see the solid health of the overall ecosystem around Inkscape. It is indeed exciting to know 1.0 is coming soon, and having your tutorials available and up to date in conjunction with this release is a great goal. Inkscape is a 100% free and open source software project, and as such there's no NDAs or confidentiality agreements to deal with. (Although yes, the actual release date is sometimes embargoed to synchronize PR with packaging. But I suspect you're looking for a general estimate not the exact date.) That said, unfortunately it is difficult to predict when releases will occur with any degree of accuracy. Inkscape is a fully volunteer-driven project, and as such when there are release-critical issues the schedule can be driven by particular individuals' limited freetime availability. I hate to say, "It'll be released when it's ready to," but that's how it has always tended to end up working in practice... Due to my own limited time availability, I've handed off the release management role to Mc, who hopefully can provide some better indications about the timeframes for 1.0. I do know that the team has been hard at work at final polish, and it sounds like they're keen to get it out the door within the coming months. Beyond that, I'm not sure if you're aware, but there is a vibrant Inkscape community involved with documentation, user training, and support. They coordinate with book authors, conference organizers, and online instructors. I would encourage you to join this group, as it sounds like you're offering educational opportunities within that same space. Hopefully Maren or one of the others active in these areas can contact you with an invitation. Thanks again for your work at supporting the Inkscape ecosystem, and I hope 1.0 will bring increased opportunities for us all to spread wider knowledge of this software. Bryce On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 05:00:34PM -0500, Mike Rankin wrote: > Hello- > > My name is Mike Rankin, and I'm the instructor for the LinkedIn Learning > course on Inkscape > <https://www.linkedin.com/learning/inkscape-essential-training/>. At > LinkedIn, I teach courses on free and low-cost alternatives to Adobe > software, like Inkscape, GIMP, and soon Affinity Publisher). The Inkscape > course has helped many users and I'm very excited that I'll soon be able to > update it for version 1.0. > > I'm writing to see if you can share any news about when 1.0 will be > released. Any information would be a huge help for me to get the new course > done and released at the same time as the software. I understand that this > may be confidential information, so I'd be happy to enter into a > non-disclosure agreement. > > In any case, thanks for making a great piece of software and giving folks > an alternative to Adobe. > > Regards, > > Mike Rankin

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Re: 8 Bugs - 1.0beta1 (32d4812, 2019-09-19) (New User - Mac OS Catalina)
by Ben Griffin 20 Nov '19

20 Nov '19

Hi folks, C Rogers, thanks for your reply. > Inkscape is a different program than Illustrator. Of course. It should be better than Illustrator, and it’s got some great features already. If you thought that was what I expected, with respect, your assumption was mistaken. > (1) Surprise Quit >> This is one thing that's just plain different about Inkscape…. Nope. It’s pretty normal for some operating systems, such as windows, where a window is an application. Not so on MacOS, where a window is (most times) merely a document within the application. It may be that you have not used MacOS much. Try opening any application on MacOS. Close the window - guess what? You have not closed the application. Not even with MS software. Why? Because to do so is a bug on MacOS. There’s nothing unique about Inkscape - it’s just either arrogance or laziness. Okay, so you’ve chosen to use a document window as your application root, and you don’t want to refactor your code to suit the UI guidelines of different OS - so, there is a is a 'lazy' way available to you - look at eg, GarageBand - which is a window-centred application. It starts, either with the last project, or it gives you a ‘choose a project to open/create new) window. You could do that. Not doing that is breaking your port to MacOS. Otherwise, it's a bug. > (2) Location of preferences menu item. > 1) BUG - Preferences is in the Edit menu rather than in the ‘Inkscape’ menu >> Inkscape is cross platform, which means that there may or may not be an Inkscape menu at all, which is a MacOS convention Again, this is laziness or arrogance, and it’s a bug. You telling me that Adobe software isn’t cross platform? Even if there is no ‘Inkscape Menu’, there’s the File menu - which is where I look for preferences. Why? Because “File” is about Files - ie, documents, - so yes, project settings, project preferences, they belong under File. Apple subsequently decided (imo correctly) that Application level preferences should be under the application. Again, go into any MacOS application that has and edit menu - and look to see what is there. ‘Preferences' isn’t one of them. It’s a bug. You may think this is merely my opinion. What you are forgetting is that there is a uniform approach to application user interface on MacOS. Every single time you make a decision to break the UX guidelines, you increase the complexity of your application, and you lose thousands - even hundreds of thousands - of potential users; you may think it’s an opinion of mine - but go look at the available UX / UI guidelines published by Apple (and Xerox before them), along with the absolutely vast budget they put into it, in order to make MacOS ‘easy’. So if you want a niche geek product, ignore what I say or just decide it’s a WONT-FIX / NOT-A-BUG. I will still use it. But I know plenty of people who will just say ‘I tried it, and it didn’t work’. Lastly, I was asked by your own documentation, to report bugs to inkscape-dev, which is what I did. If you now want me to post bugs on https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/issues <https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/issues>, the answer is sorry, bud., I did what was asked of me. I truly would like to see Inkscape become a killer app on Mac OS. But if your hearts are not into it, and you just want to keep it on Linux, fine - I’m all for free community driven software on community driven machines - it’s what I get paid to do, which is super cool. On the other hand, if you are committed to making Inkscape truly cross-platform, you have to make it conform to those platform’s own guidelines and conventions, otherwise it’s just a bad port for niche geeks like me. -B.

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