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Re: [Inkscape-devel] EXPERIMENTAL: gradient noise (Was: Re: Gradients.)
by joel＠...1709... 21 Aug '07

21 Aug '07

> the real source of the banding (besides buffer precision issues) is the > precomputed vector, but changing that means a pretty significant change > architecturally. Come on cairo!!! ---------------------------------------- From: MenTaLguY <mental@...3...> Sent: 21 August 2007 04:54 To: Inkscape ML <inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: [Inkscape-devel] EXPERIMENTAL: gradient noise (Was: Re: Gradients.) On Mon, 2007-08-20 at 15:49 -0700, MenTaLguY wrote: > Adding random noise to the gradients may help reduce the visibility of > artifacts to the human eye, however. Gradients are rendered by selecting > colors from a precomputed 1024-color vector, so adding a very small > amount of noise to that index calculation should be sufficient. Ok, as of r15880 I've added a little bit of noise to gradients using a linear feedback shift register. I would consider this pretty experimental and it might get reverted later. I'm mainly curious to see how much this helps perceptually; the real source of the banding (besides buffer precision issues) is the precomputed vector, but changing that means a pretty significant change architecturally. -mental ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ _______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Windows console
by joel＠...1709... 21 Aug '07

21 Aug '07

Yes and that's exactly what I need for my explorer thumbnail extension, so as to allow it to load the renderer. (Although I'm wondering if the renderer itself could be broken into it's own shared dll, rather than static linked to reduce memory footprint) ---------------------------------------- From: Bob Jamison <rwjj@...127...> Sent: 21 August 2007 03:28 To: Gail Banaszkiewicz <gbanaszk@...1686...>, inkscape-devel@...941...rge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Windows console The problem is, I guess, how to allow the console for some people but to not display the annoying console for everybody. It's probably time that we re-examine the Inkscape-as-a-DLL problem. This way we could provide several small executables, like Inkscape w/console, Inkscape w/o console, and Inkview, all calling the large main DLL. bob Gail Banaszkiewicz wrote: > Kent Tenney wrote: >> On 8/20/07, Gail Banaszkiewicz wrote: >> >>> I seem to have lost the ability to run Inkscape as a console app in >>> Windows. >>> >> Same here. I had console a build or two back, but it's gone now (r15870) >> >> Kent > > Looks like you have to "put it in -mconsole" - > according to Bob the FAQ is wrong ;) > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ _______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel

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GSoC Final Survey
by Bryce Harrington 21 Aug '07

21 Aug '07

Hi all, Today Google has posted the forms for GSoC surveys; they're due on the 31st. For more info, please see: http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-announce/web/midterm-s… And feel free to direct questions my way. Bryce

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] [Inkscape-user] disappearing gradients when moving/scaling
by bulia byak 21 Aug '07

21 Aug '07

On 8/11/07, MenTaLguY <mental@...3...> wrote: > On Wed, 2007-08-08 at 22:11 -0300, bulia byak wrote: > > You just have the "transform gradients" button toggled off in the > > selector toolbar. That's the mode in which transforming an object does > > not affect the gradients - they stay in the original place. Toggle it > > back on and it will work as you expect. > > Any ideas for reducing this problem? As a small improvement, I just added a label saying "Affect:" in front of the buttons. This should be beneficial in several ways: it attracts more attention to the buttons; it visually separates them from the rest of the toolbar; it gives an immediate hint on their purpose - configuring what is and is not affected by Selector tool transformations; and finally it gives these buttons a name ("the Affect buttons") that will make it much easier to explain to users what they need to toggle :) -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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Windows console
by Gail Banaszkiewicz 21 Aug '07

21 Aug '07

I seem to have lost the ability to run Inkscape as a console app in Windows. I have followed the instructions in http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/FAQ#Can_Inkscape_be_used_from_the_c… so is it possible that something has changed in the last while during the broken build period? Is anyone else on Windows having the same problem or is it just me (and therefore likely my own error)? Thanks! Gail

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SoC: Font Specification Implementation
by Gail Banaszkiewicz 20 Aug '07

20 Aug '07

Hi all! I uploaded a patch into the patch tracker with my work from the second half of Summer of Code: Patch #1778026 <https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1778026&group_id=…>. I did this instead of checking it in because although I have done a lot of testing, I think it would be prudent if you all give it a try as well. It should be non-obtrusive for you to try; the only real visual difference should be that the text and style dialog shows only those fonts that Pango can actually work with (so no more duplicates, and no more styles that aren't selectable). Everything else is under the hood so to speak. This work allows for us to separate font families and styles better in the text and style dialog. I held off implementing this for now as Miklos has some code he thinks will work well for this purpose in svgbuilder.cpp. I was hoping we could all have a look at his code and decide whether that's what we want to use for this purpose. I also wanted to make sure the framework I laid down for this is solid before going on to the next stage. I have also laid the foundation for being able to support fonts that CSS can't. At the moment this isn't possible given the fact that Pango only supports CSS fonts. However, I will be doing some more research in the near future into either getting that changed, or seeing if there is any way around using the PangoFontDescription structure that we rely on so heavily at the moment (which is the one that specifically does not support anything outside of CSS). Please let me know if you find any issues or annoyances! I am getting married this week, have a week off next week, and am travelling the week after. So communication could be sporadic - but don't worry, I have not abandoned you! ;) Gail

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.SVG filetype
by Thomas Worthington 20 Aug '07

20 Aug '07

I get EPS files from clients every week with existing logos and other design elements from their letterhead and other advertising in them. Problem is, most of these files are little more than wrappers around Illustrator-only code and can not be displayed by anything other than Adobe products, certainly Inkscape can handle maybe 1 in 10 of them and even then very poorly. This is not Inkscape's fault but the fault of products that save files in "<product>-eps" format. The practical upshot for me is that ".eps" is now a meaningless filetype, much like .tiff, and serves only to make it difficult to explain to clients why I'm having trouble with what they think of as very basic files. As this problem has grown, I've started to question the value of having "Save as inkscape SVG" produce ".svg" suffixed files. Is it not a better idea, design-wise, to indicate that a file is not "pure" SVG with a different suffix such as .isvg or something similar? I have already sent Inkscape-SVG files to other designers by mistake; with a different suffix this would be a mistake which would be apparent as I selected the files for attachment to my emails. Should Inkscape change the default suffix for its own filetypes? Thomas Worthington

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] [Inkscape-cvs] SF.net SVN: inkscape: [15827] inkscape/trunk/src/ui/dialog
by joel＠...1709... 20 Aug '07

20 Aug '07

Oh good work; well done! ---------------------------------------- From: "Bruno Dilly" <bruno.dilly@...400...> Sent: 20 August 2007 05:15 To: joel@...1709... Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] [Inkscape-cvs] SF.net SVN: inkscape: [15827] inkscape/trunk/src/ui/dialog Hey Joel, I made the changes you've suggested. Thanks by the support. On 8/19/07, joel@...1709... wrote: > Great, and I just noticed one other thing. > > In ocaldialogs.h you have the line > FileDialogOCALBase(const Glib::ustring &title) : > Gtk::Dialog(title,true) > > where you call the constructor of Gtk::Dialog. Can you use instead the three > parameter > version where the parent window is specified as the second parameter? Like > this... > > FileDialogOCALBase(const Glib::ustring &title, Gtk::Window& parent) : > Gtk::Dialog(title, parent, true) > > This should be pretty easy considering the OCAL classes already get a > reference > to the parent window from file.cpp. The advantage of doing this for Windows > users, is > that it stops your dialogs sinking down behind the inkscape desktop if > someone clicks > on it. > > Best regards > Joel > > ________________________________ > From: "Bruno Dilly" > Sent: 19 August 2007 10:54 > To: joel@...1709... > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] [Inkscape-cvs] SF.net SVN: inkscape: [15827] > inkscape/trunk/src/ui/dialog > > OK Joel, I will do it soon. Thanks for the help =) > > On 8/19/07, joel@...1709... wrote: > > I figured out what the problem was now. In my version, I made changes in > > file.cpp, which I managed to miss comitting. I'm very sorry for all the > > inconvenience. I assumed you were asleep, and I was hoping to slip the > > change in quickly before you woke up - well that worked out just great! > > > > On the subject of file.cpp, the line in the current SVN version > > exportDialogInstance = > > Inkscape::UI::Dialog::FileExportToOCALDialog::create( > > was > > exportDialogInstance = new > > Inkscape::UI::Dialog::FileExportToOCALDialog( > > in my version. > > > > Can I suggest that you do the same, when you're ready? There's no need to > > have separate dialog and impl classes in this case. If possible I suggest > > you begin to merge the functionality of the two classes, do away with the > > class factory, and just expose the constructor directly. This sounds like > a > > big deal, but actually it only took me about 10 minutes to do. > > > > Hope that helps > > > > Best Regards > > Joel > > > > ________________________________ > > From: "Bruno Dilly" > > Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 10:09 AM > > To: joel@...1709... > > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] [Inkscape-cvs] SF.net SVN: inkscape: [15827] > > inkscape/trunk/src/ui/dialog > > > > But I think I didn't erased any modification. > > > > I just included in the file.cpp you have commited the following itens: > > - an #include "ui/dialog/ocaldialogs.h" > > - the password verification inside the export to ocal function > > > > But if you think is necessary to revert, do it, and I will fix it > > later, if necessary. > > > > On 8/19/07, joel@...1709... wrote: > > > Well it's good that you fixed it. I'm confused though, because I tested > > and > > > compiled my revised version *several* times. Did you guys try running > > > ./autogen ? Now file.cpp needs to be reverted, as my version did away > with > > > the class factories. > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Jon Phillips > > > Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 6:30 AM > > > To: Bruno Dilly > > > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] [Inkscape-cvs] SF.net SVN: inkscape: > [15827] > > > inkscape/trunk/src/ui/dialog > > > > > > On Sun, 2007-08-19 at 02:11 -0300, Bruno Dilly wrote: > > > > I was doing the same thing as Joel, and I was including the login > > > > dialog used to export to ocal. > > > > > > > > So I commited my ocaldialogs.ccp and ocaldialogs.h, and now things > look > > > fine. > > > > > > Whoa, you guys gotta inter-communi-kate ;) > > > > > > Jon > > > > > > > On 8/19/07, MenTaLguY wrote: > > > > > Joel, your recent commit appears to have broken the build. > > > > > > > > > > Please fix it so we can get back to work. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > -mental > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2007-08-18 at 17:29 -0700, > > > joelholdsworth@...58... > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Revision: 15827 > > > > > > > > > > > > http://inkscape.svn.sourceforge.net/inkscape/?rev=15827&view=rev > > > > > > Author: joelholdsworth > > > > > > Date: 2007-08-18 17:29:36 -0700 (Sat, 18 Aug 2007) > > > > > > > > > > > > Log Message: > > > > > > ----------- > > > > > > Separated the OCAL import and export dialogs into their own source > > > file - ocaldialogs.cpp and ocaldialogs.h > > > > > > > > > > > > Modified Paths: > > > > > > -------------- > > > > > > inkscape/trunk/src/ui/dialog/Makefile_insert > > > > > > inkscape/trunk/src/ui/dialog/filedialog.cpp > > > > > > inkscape/trunk/src/ui/dialog/filedialog.h > > > > > > > > inkscape/trunk/src/ui/dialog/filedialogimpl-gtkmm.cpp > > > > > > > inkscape/trunk/src/ui/dialog/filedialogimpl-gtkmm.h > > > > > > > > > > > > Added Paths: > > > > > > ----------- > > > > > > inkscape/trunk/src/ui/dialog/ocaldialogs.cpp > > > > > > inkscape/trunk/src/ui/dialog/ocaldialogs.h > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This was sent by the SourceForge.net collaborative development > > > platform, the world's largest Open Source development site. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > > > > > > Still grepping through log files to find problems? 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win32 building again
by Bob Jamison 20 Aug '07

20 Aug '07

Well, finally, we got Inkscape to build again. It is here: http://inkscape.modevia.com/win32/Inkscape0708190932.7z It is built with the new library bundle: http://inkscape.modevia.com/win32libs/gtk210-070819.7z The build.xml file has been tweaked to use this. You no longer need the separate boost installation. bob frabjous day!

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] [Inkscape-cvs] SF.net SVN: inkscape: [15827] inkscape/trunk/src/ui/dialog
by joel＠...1709... 20 Aug '07

20 Aug '07

Great, and I just noticed one other thing. In ocaldialogs.h you have the line FileDialogOCALBase(const Glib::ustring &title) : Gtk::Dialog(title,true) where you call the constructor of Gtk::Dialog. Can you use instead the three parameter version where the parent window is specified as the second parameter? Like this... FileDialogOCALBase(const Glib::ustring &title, Gtk::Window& parent) : Gtk::Dialog(title, parent, true) This should be pretty easy considering the OCAL classes already get a reference to the parent window from file.cpp. The advantage of doing this for Windows users, is that it stops your dialogs sinking down behind the inkscape desktop if someone clicks on it. Best regards Joel ---------------------------------------- From: "Bruno Dilly" <bruno.dilly@...400...> Sent: 19 August 2007 10:54 To: joel@...1709... Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] [Inkscape-cvs] SF.net SVN: inkscape: [15827] inkscape/trunk/src/ui/dialog OK Joel, I will do it soon. Thanks for the help =) On 8/19/07, joel@...1709... wrote: > I figured out what the problem was now. In my version, I made changes in > file.cpp, which I managed to miss comitting. I'm very sorry for all the > inconvenience. I assumed you were asleep, and I was hoping to slip the > change in quickly before you woke up - well that worked out just great! > > On the subject of file.cpp, the line in the current SVN version > exportDialogInstance = > Inkscape::UI::Dialog::FileExportToOCALDialog::create( > was > exportDialogInstance = new > Inkscape::UI::Dialog::FileExportToOCALDialog( > in my version. > > Can I suggest that you do the same, when you're ready? There's no need to > have separate dialog and impl classes in this case. If possible I suggest > you begin to merge the functionality of the two classes, do away with the > class factory, and just expose the constructor directly. This sounds like a > big deal, but actually it only took me about 10 minutes to do. > > Hope that helps > > Best Regards > Joel > > ________________________________ > From: "Bruno Dilly" > Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 10:09 AM > To: joel@...1709... > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] [Inkscape-cvs] SF.net SVN: inkscape: [15827] > inkscape/trunk/src/ui/dialog > > But I think I didn't erased any modification. > > I just included in the file.cpp you have commited the following itens: > - an #include "ui/dialog/ocaldialogs.h" > - the password verification inside the export to ocal function > > But if you think is necessary to revert, do it, and I will fix it > later, if necessary. > > On 8/19/07, joel@...1709... wrote: > > Well it's good that you fixed it. I'm confused though, because I tested > and > > compiled my revised version *several* times. Did you guys try running > > ./autogen ? Now file.cpp needs to be reverted, as my version did away with > > the class factories. > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Jon Phillips > > Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 6:30 AM > > To: Bruno Dilly > > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] [Inkscape-cvs] SF.net SVN: inkscape: [15827] > > inkscape/trunk/src/ui/dialog > > > > On Sun, 2007-08-19 at 02:11 -0300, Bruno Dilly wrote: > > > I was doing the same thing as Joel, and I was including the login > > > dialog used to export to ocal. > > > > > > So I commited my ocaldialogs.ccp and ocaldialogs.h, and now things look > > fine. > > > > Whoa, you guys gotta inter-communi-kate ;) > > > > Jon > > > > > On 8/19/07, MenTaLguY wrote: > > > > Joel, your recent commit appears to have broken the build. > > > > > > > > Please fix it so we can get back to work. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > -mental > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2007-08-18 at 17:29 -0700, > > joelholdsworth@...58... > > > > wrote: > > > > > Revision: 15827 > > > > > > > > http://inkscape.svn.sourceforge.net/inkscape/?rev=15827&view=rev > > > > > Author: joelholdsworth > > > > > Date: 2007-08-18 17:29:36 -0700 (Sat, 18 Aug 2007) > > > > > > > > > > Log Message: > > > > > ----------- > > > > > Separated the OCAL import and export dialogs into their own source > > file - ocaldialogs.cpp and ocaldialogs.h > > > > > > > > > > Modified Paths: > > > > > -------------- > > > > > inkscape/trunk/src/ui/dialog/Makefile_insert > > > > > inkscape/trunk/src/ui/dialog/filedialog.cpp > > > > > inkscape/trunk/src/ui/dialog/filedialog.h > > > > > > inkscape/trunk/src/ui/dialog/filedialogimpl-gtkmm.cpp > > > > > inkscape/trunk/src/ui/dialog/filedialogimpl-gtkmm.h > > > > > > > > > > Added Paths: > > > > > ----------- > > > > > inkscape/trunk/src/ui/dialog/ocaldialogs.cpp > > > > > inkscape/trunk/src/ui/dialog/ocaldialogs.h > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This was sent by the SourceForge.net collaborative development > > platform, the world's largest Open Source development site. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > > > > > Still grepping through log files to find problems? 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