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Adding more tags to svg files
by Kent Tenney 04 Aug '07

04 Aug '07

Howdy, A bit of fiddling leads me to believe that it's ok to add tags to Inkscape's top level <svg> tag. Inkscape seems to assign them an id and then ignore them. Is this correct? Is there danger of other svg applications discarding unknown tags, or Inkscape doing this in the future? Thanks, Kent

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] [Inkscape-cvs] SF.net SVN: inkscape: [15640] inkscape/trunk/src
by MenTaLguY 04 Aug '07

04 Aug '07

Hi, this commit broke the trunk build, as some required files were not added. Please also commit src/display/nr-filter-component-transfer.cpp src/display/nr-filter-component-transfer.h (and anything else missing) as soon as possible! Thanks, -mental On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 21:18 -0700, jucablues@...58... wrote: > Revision: 15640 > http://inkscape.svn.sourceforge.net/inkscape/?rev=15640&view=rev > Author: jucablues > Date: 2007-08-03 21:18:36 -0700 (Fri, 03 Aug 2007) > > Log Message: > ----------- > boilerplate code for the remaining filters. My next commits will > probably deal with setting default attribute values for these filters > > Modified Paths: > -------------- > inkscape/trunk/src/display/Makefile_insert > inkscape/trunk/src/display/nr-filter.cpp > inkscape/trunk/src/sp-fecolormatrix.cpp > inkscape/trunk/src/sp-fecolormatrix.h > inkscape/trunk/src/sp-feflood.cpp > inkscape/trunk/src/sp-feflood.h > inkscape/trunk/src/sp-femorphology.cpp > inkscape/trunk/src/sp-femorphology.h > > Added Paths: > ----------- > inkscape/trunk/src/display/nr-filter-colormatrix.cpp > inkscape/trunk/src/display/nr-filter-colormatrix.h > inkscape/trunk/src/display/nr-filter-flood.cpp > inkscape/trunk/src/display/nr-filter-flood.h > inkscape/trunk/src/display/nr-filter-morphology.cpp > inkscape/trunk/src/display/nr-filter-morphology.h > > > This was sent by the SourceForge.net collaborative development platform, the world's largest Open Source development site. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-cvs mailing list > Inkscape-cvs(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-cvs

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Window Manager Modifiers
by Ted Gould 04 Aug '07

04 Aug '07

On Sat, 2007-08-04 at 12:02 +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > well... this is no new problem. it's been around for years. in the end - the > wm's win, because you need one for a sane desktop. whatever they steal in terms > of key (and mouse) bindings is what a user comes to EXPECT from functionality > on ALL their windows (eg - alt+left mouse to move, alt+right mouse for wm > window menu etc.). there is a kind of pseudo-standard (just by virtue that a > lot of wm's come this way by default) that there seems to be a common convention > that alt + button is what wm's take - anything else if open for apps. I guess my real concern is that it's alt today, meta tomorrow and control next week? It seems like in general that there should be some consistency here. That way someone knows where their mouse events are going (though I doubt they'll think about it that way). > now i ask - why do u think it's bad apps use met - but you now promote wm's to > use it instead of alt? you are basically saying "i don't want to use meta - so i > want to force wm's to do the thing i am not willing to". at the end of the day > - this is highly unfair as your point about the meta key being "not always > there" is valid - and all you do is put the problem onto the wm's. No, the reason that I was suggesting that a WM use meta is because in general, I think the desktop knows a lot more about the hardware that it's working with. Application do, and should, know very little. Things like accessibility and keyboard configuration are done at a desktop/WM level -- so I thought it would make more sense to also use, or not use, the meta key at that level. I believe that there are also internationalization issues here, though I'm ignorant to other keyboard layouts myself. > personally- i think you need to find a way to do what you need without needing > more and more modifier keys. i know a lot of wm's will keep being shipped using > alt+button because they have been shipped that way for 10+ years. it's been a > default feature for a decade and it's not going away. you need to find a way to > work with it. i would SOONER specify "alt + button is reserved for wm's - apps > need to use anything else" because wm's "were there first", "steal the buttons > before your app can do anything about it" and "it's an incredibly useful > feature to have on ALL windows" as opposed to losing it on ALL windows just so > 1 app can have more bindings. If that's the case, I think FreeDesktop should have something that says that. I think we should give as many bindings as possible to apps in general. > the only sensible suggestion here i think is some form of hint on the window > that says "i use alt+button 1, alt+button 2, ctrl+button 1 etc." so the wm > MIGHT be nice and disable any of its own bindings if they conflict - just on > that window. the problem here now is inconsistent UI experience and control - i > go to my inkscape window and press alt+button 1 to drag the window and it > doesn't - it does something else. the element of least surprise is violated. > every window i have does it - except this one now. so though it is technically > solvable to give you bindings back - it now leads to a bad UI experience and > users i think will be better off if you try and stick to the pseudo-conventions > in-place? remember this problem exists for key bindings as well - you could > complain that "wm's steal alt+tab from apps - i want wm's to stop that so i can > get more key combinations for my app". it's not going to happen - there are > many common key-bindings too that wm's use and there are pseudo-conventions > there. I agree that the bindings should not be overloaded. The only way I could see this making sense is if the WM provided some sort of feedback to the user that they have been overloaded -- and icon on the title bar or something. But, I think in general that would be confusing. I general, today we are seeing that confusion. People regularly e-mail the Inkscape lists complaining they can't get features to work (not only alt-mouse) because those keys are stolen by the WM or Desktop or whatever. This is a more than minorly annoying support issue. --Ted

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Screencasts of new features...
by ryan lerch 03 Aug '07

03 Aug '07

Hi all, just thought i would hit the list to tell you all that i have been doing a set of blog posts recently covering the upcoming neat features in 0.46. So far i have covered: On Canvas Gradient Editing: http://ryanler.wordpress.com/2007/07/25/inkscape-on-canvas-gradient-editing/ Touch Selection: http://ryanler.wordpress.com/2007/07/26/147/ Flood Fill (Bucket Fill) http://ryanler.wordpress.com/2007/07/27/inkscape-upcoming-feature-flood-fil… Engraving Toolbox (Tracking a Path) http://ryanler.wordpress.com/2007/08/02/upcoming-inkscape-features-engraver… Engraving Toolbox (Node Sculpting) http://ryanler.wordpress.com/2007/08/03/upcoming-inkscape-features-engraver… If you have any more ideas / requests, just shoot me an email, and ill see what i can do... Cheers, ryanlerch

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siggraph last minute presentation in san diego?
by Jon Phillips 03 Aug '07

03 Aug '07

Heya, does anyone in LA/Southern California area want to present at siggraph tomorrow about Inkscape in a panel? I was supposed to present at this conference, but am stuck in taipei at wikimania. Yes, I should've emailed before, but maybe Ted or Jon Cruz might be tempted ;) I can ship off my slide show on the subject. http://sandbox.siggraph.org/program.html http://sandbox.siggraph.org/panels.html The presentation is around noon and would get you into this confernce. It is the largest graphics conference in the world. Jon -- Jon Phillips San Francisco, CA USA PH 510.499.0894 jon@...235... http://www.rejon.org MSN, AIM, Yahoo Chat: kidproto Jabber Chat: rejon@...896... IRC: rejon@...897...

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siggraph last minute presentation in san diego?
by Jon Phillips 03 Aug '07

03 Aug '07

Heya, does anyone in LA/Southern California area want to present at siggraph tomorrow about Inkscape in a panel? I was supposed to present at this conference, but am stuck in taipei at wikimania. Yes, I should've emailed before, but maybe Ted or Jon Cruz might be tempted ;) I can ship off my slide show on the subject. http://sandbox.siggraph.org/program.html http://sandbox.siggraph.org/panels.html The presentation is around noon and would get you into this confernce. It is the largest graphics conference in the world. Jon -- Jon Phillips San Francisco, CA USA PH 510.499.0894 jon@...235... http://www.rejon.org MSN, AIM, Yahoo Chat: kidproto Jabber Chat: rejon@...896... IRC: rejon@...897...

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rev 15630 linking error
by bulia byak 02 Aug '07

02 Aug '07

Any ideas? It compiled fine a couple days ago... ui/dialog/libuidialog.a(filedialog.o): In function `Inkscape::UI::Dialog::FileOpenDialog::create(Gtk::Window&, Glib::ustring const&, Inkscape::UI::Dialog::FileDialogType, Glib::ustring const&)':ui/dialog/filedialog.cpp:40: undefined reference to `Inkscape::UI::Dialog::FileOpenDialogImplGtk::FileOpenDialogImplGtk(Gtk::Window&, Glib::ustring const&, Inkscape::UI::Dialog::FileDialogType, Glib::ustring const&)' ui/dialog/libuidialog.a(filedialog.o): In function `Inkscape::UI::Dialog::FileSaveDialog::create(Gtk::Window&, Glib::ustring const&, Inkscape::UI::Dialog::FileDialogType, Glib::ustring const&, Glib::ustring const&)':ui/dialog/filedialog.cpp:57: undefined reference to `Inkscape::UI::Dialog::FileSaveDialogImplGtk::FileSaveDialogImplGtk(Gtk::Window&, Glib::ustring const&, Inkscape::UI::Dialog::FileDialogType, Glib::ustring const&, Glib::ustring const&)' ui/dialog/libuidialog.a(filedialog.o): In function `Inkscape::UI::Dialog::FileExportDialog::create(Gtk::Window&, Glib::ustring const&, Inkscape::UI::Dialog::FileDialogType, Glib::ustring const&, Glib::ustring const&)':ui/dialog/filedialog.cpp:74: undefined reference to `Inkscape::UI::Dialog::FileExportDialogImpl::FileExportDialogImpl(Gtk::Window&, Glib::ustring const&, Inkscape::UI::Dialog::FileDialogType, Glib::ustring const&, Glib::ustring const&)' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[2]: *** [inkscape] Error 1 -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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referencing elements within an external SVG
by Felipe Sanches 02 Aug '07

02 Aug '07

SVG 1.1 spec says that: http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/struct.html#URIReference 5.3 References and the 'defs' element 5.3.1 Overview: *the 'use' <http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/struct.html#UseElement> element can reference any local or non-local resource http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/struct.html#ImageElement Section 5.7 The 'image' element: *Unlike 'use' <http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/struct.html#UseElement>, the 'image' element cannot reference elements within an SVG file. So... I imagine that the 'use' element should allow me to reference elements within an external SVG (i.e. a non-local resource) but I try to do that and I get nothing! Any clue on that? **************** This is my use.svg file: <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="no"?> <svg xmlns:svg="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"> <use xlink:href="file:///home/aluno/Desktop/circle.svg" /> </svg> **************** This is my circle.svg file: <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="no"?> <svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"> <circle id="mycircle" cx="300" cy="225" r="150" fill="red"/> </svg>

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lxml on OS X: test and compilers needed
by jiho 02 Aug '07

02 Aug '07

Hello, I just compiled lxml on OS X 10.4 Intel and created a new Python packages bundle there: http://inkscape.modevia.com/macosx-snap/?C=M;O=D I would need: - someone with a Mac Intel and an svn version of Inkscape (or willing to download one from the same address) to test if lxml works precompiled as pyxml did - someone with a PPC Mac (10.3 or 10.4) to compile lxml there and send it to me for distribution (compiling it is as simple as download, extract, ./setup.py build, ./ setup.py install) Download link: http://codespeak.net/lxml/index.html#download Thanks in advance. JiHO --- http://jo.irisson.free.fr/

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New drawing tool idea
by Joey Marshall 02 Aug '07

02 Aug '07

I posted this to the inkscape-users list and was suggested to post it here. So here it is, please tell me what you guys think: -------------------- Hello, For the past month I have been thinking over an idea I would really like to see made in an opensource vector program. Inkscape is my favorite so I'm posting this here. I think this would be a really great tool but would also take quit a bit of work (or at least I think it would, feel free to prove me wrong.) What I want: The tool is somewhat of a line tool. Similar to the freehand tool in that it creates a vector line, but enhanced. The differences would rest on the that is drawn. Instead of the curves that the freehand tool draws, the line would be composed of joints evenly spaced apart (the spacing would in general be small, but be user customizable). Each joint should have their x,y cords as well as a width property (it may be better to organize that different, but each joint needs to have this property, which would be a variable number set by a stylus used to display the line, I'll get to this in a moment). In addition a joint must be able to reside in multiple lines. The reason being so that two lines can "connect" to each other. Each line would simple be a stroke; the button clicks, the mouse moves, the button lets up - a line. So say you draw a line in the shape of a big C. Then you want to join the open end and have tails sticking out on ether end. You would start above the C shape on the rightmost side and draw your line down. As you draw you can hold down on CTRL to connect the line to any other you pass over (Or maybe have it so after you draw the line you can press a hotkey and it connects itself to any other lines it intersects with). That's all for the user drawing the lines, now for how it would display it. I'm not totally sure about how to do this (as if I am on any of this) but I was thinking it should draw out to look like a pen or pencil stroke (maybe have the general width be user defined so it could look big and fat to like a brush stroke). This is what I was wanting the width attr in the joint for. Maybe for displaying it create a line (or rather a complex polygon shaped like a line) that moves through all the points with the width (distance between the two edges on the sides of the line) changing with the width attr in the joints. Did any of that make sense? Ok, two more things. Coloring and editing. For editing I want something cool :) What I was thinking was that you can press down on CTRL or right click or something near a line and start drawing. As you go it moves and morphs the line to how you are drawing. It would have to automatically add and remove joints to keep evenly spaced. Is that at all clear? Lastly the coloring. I don't know how this could be made into inkscape easily (not that any of this would be easy) but I would want the ability to be able to fill in enclosures in the lines (also be able to change the color of a line but that wouldn't be difficult.) I could only really think of one way to do this. It would find all the joints of the lines that it needs to fill in and create a polygon from them (the joints). Perhaps have them be the actual joint objects (is this very feasible in C/C++?) so that when a line is moved after it is filled in the fill would update with it. Anyway, that is what I would really like to see in a vector editor like inkscape (I would love to see it in inkscape.) There are probably still several design holes that I overlooked but I think I conveyed what is in my mind. This would take a lot of work but I think it would be a very valuable tool to have. I tired playing around with it myself using cairo and PyGTK but wasn't able to get very far (I need to learn to stay as far away from the DrawingArea and Pixbuf/Pixmap as possible... ether that or get it figured out once and forall). If anyone thinks this would be cool and might want to implement it that would be awesome! At the moment I couldn't really fund anyone to do this and I'm not even sure this is something that would be wanted in inkscape. Please let me know anyone if you're interested or I'm unclear about something or what ever! Thanks for listening! Joey

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