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Re: [Inkscape-devel] MSI Packages
by Alan Horkan 29 Aug '06

29 Aug '06

On Tue, 29 Aug 2006, Bryce Harrington wrote: > On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 12:34:32AM +0100, Alan Horkan wrote: > > On Mon, 28 Aug 2006, Jon Phillips wrote: > > > On Mon, 2006-05-15 at 16:03 +0100, Antony J Mee wrote: > > > > I notice that the OpenOffice team have now made their Windows > > > > version into an MSI package which will greatly ease the adoption I expect that comes from Star Office developers paid be Sun Microsystms and is meeting the needs of their paying corporate customers. > > > > of the package in University departments for example (which more > > > > commonly nowadays) often run WIndows Domains with centralized > > > > installation systems. Is your University interested in installing Inkscape for all students are you making a speculative suggestion in the hope that they might do it if it were easier? > > There are two standard responses to that: [that being the question of MSI support] > > 1) Why? > > 2) Yes please! Do send patches ;) > > > > I believe there are some features in MSI which make it easier to automate > > installs and rollout a program across a large organisation as you > > describe. > > Just to ditto Alan's words - I haven't heard of MSI before, but in > general yeah, if it scratches your itch, please investigate and find a > solution, and then send it in for inclusion in Inkscape proper. This request against NSIS for MSI support may also be of interest http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=867084&group_id=22… As I first thought your best bet is to take a closer look at using the /SILENT option in NSIS. Sincerely Alan Horkan Inkscape http://inkscape.org Abiword http://www.abisource.com Open Clip Art http://OpenClipArt.org Alan's Diary http://advogato.org/person/AlanHorkan/

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Enhance file manager?
by T P 29 Aug '06

29 Aug '06

I have completed a first pass at updating the print dialog. It is modeled on the gimp-print dialog in having a radiobutton group to select between standard command, custom command, and print to file. I don't have a printer but printing to file works. There is no way to specify a non-default printer with the standard command, have to select custom command for that. Please check out the attached patch and let me know any issues. Adam On 8/23/06, Bryce Harrington <bryce@...961...> wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 12:45:29PM -0700, T P wrote: > > I see for milestone 11 one of the tasks is "Enhance file manager". What > > needs to be done here? > > I've largely forgotten the specifics, but as I recall there were some > complaints that the file open and save dialogs lacked certain > capabilities that most modern file dialogs have. It's more a Gtk issue > though, so it may be best to see how things go when we finish upgrading > to gtk 2.8 (probably by 0.46 or 0.47). > > If you are interested in working on improving system dialogs, I would > encourage you to take a look at the print dialog; it's suffered from > long years of neglect. I understand there are some new developments for > the print system in gtk 2.10, but unfortunately it will be a long while > before we can migrate to that version since it's not widely available in > distros. But meanwhile, it would be nice to improve our print dialog a > bit - maybe there are some aspects of the new print stuff that could be > backported or emulated? > > Bryce > > >

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Enhance file manager?
by T P 29 Aug '06

29 Aug '06

I would also like to help with the upgrade to gtk 2.8 if someone can help me understand the issues. Adam On 8/23/06, Bryce Harrington <bryce@...961...> wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 12:45:29PM -0700, T P wrote: > > I see for milestone 11 one of the tasks is "Enhance file manager". What > > needs to be done here? > > I've largely forgotten the specifics, but as I recall there were some > complaints that the file open and save dialogs lacked certain > capabilities that most modern file dialogs have. It's more a Gtk issue > though, so it may be best to see how things go when we finish upgrading > to gtk 2.8 (probably by 0.46 or 0.47). > > If you are interested in working on improving system dialogs, I would > encourage you to take a look at the print dialog; it's suffered from > long years of neglect. I understand there are some new developments for > the print system in gtk 2.10, but unfortunately it will be a long while > before we can migrate to that version since it's not widely available in > distros. But meanwhile, it would be nice to improve our print dialog a > bit - maybe there are some aspects of the new print stuff that could be > backported or emulated? > > Bryce > > >

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Enhance file manager?
by T P 29 Aug '06

29 Aug '06

I see for milestone 11 one of the tasks is "Enhance file manager". What needs to be done here? Adam

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blur filter slider suggestion
by Andy Fitzsimon 29 Aug '06

29 Aug '06

Hi guys, I've been messing with the blur tool today and noticed a few behavioural optimisations we could do to the slider to cut back on bloating our files. the slider should lock to Increments. for example : 0.25 0.50 1.00 2.50 5.00 7.50 10.00 20.00 the user is still allowed to specify an arbitary value but it may be useful to handle filters in a similar way as we do gradient definitions. Create the <filter> def for the stddeviation when it has been set and link to that same <filter> for all future blurs if the same value. The locking of the slider comes into place because it makes the default user behaviour more optimised when only casually playing with blur settings. I guess we should think about htis . oh, also attached is a quick example i made today to show an airbrushed style effect using blurs and gradients

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MSI Packages
by Antony J Mee 29 Aug '06

29 Aug '06

Dear Scribus & Inkscape developers, I love both your applications and would like to encourage my colleagues and students to use them. I notice that the OpenOffice team have now made their Windows version into an MSI package which will greatly ease the adoption of the package in University departments for example (which more commonly nowadays) often run WIndows Domains with centralized installation systems. Any chance you guys would consider doing the same? Kind regards, tOnY

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NEW: keyboard shortcuts for adobe illustrator and macromedia freehand + Low Hanging Fruit UI task + language task
by Jon Phillips 28 Aug '06

28 Aug '06

That's right, I committed some more patches earlier this week (which sf.net's mailing list seemingly did didn't deliver). There are now the options for adobe-illustrator-cs.xml and macromedia-freehand-mx.xml in the inkscape share/keys/ folder. It would be really great to have UI in our preferences to select a different keyboard shortcuts preference. This would be a nice low hanging fruit task. Has anyone started this? If no one has started this, there are a few of steps: 1.) create a preference for which keys xml file to use 2.) create ui for selecting the keys in our Inkscape Preferences... dialog 3.) add necessary code to get keyboard shortcuts selection to work 4.) EXTRA CREDIT: for you UI to be able to create, edit and duplicate current configs so that they may be user created... Also, along these lines would be to create some simple UI for setting a default language for Inkscape from the languages we have translated. While ppl. may set this from the commandline, this would help our translators and basic users. Basically, you would take the same approach as step 1-3 above...for languages, we would have to make the change active on restart...however, for keys, I'm not sure if we could make them reset during an active Inkscape process. Does anyone know if this is possible? It would actually be great to do both while Inkscape is running... Jon -- Jon Phillips San Francisco, CA USA PH 510.499.0894 jon@...235... http://www.rejon.org MSN, AIM, Yahoo Chat: kidproto Jabber Chat: rejon@...896... IRC: rejon@...897... Inkscape (http://inkscape.org) Open Clip Art Library (www.openclipart.org) Creative Commons (www.creativecommons.org) San Francisco Art Institute (www.sfai.edu)

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Decoupling rendering
by Bob Jamison 28 Aug '06

28 Aug '06

Here is a simple Observer-style separation of document traversal and output-specific rendering. If people don't disagree with this too much, I can spend more than 5 minutes on it and flesh this out further. If this seems reasonable, the first Context would naturally seem to be wrapped around Cairo. This would be very cool. :) bob #ifndef __RENDER_H__ #define __RENDER_H__ class RenderInterpreter; /** * The base class for all rendering output types. This class * follows the Observer model, where there is a single * subscriber to all of the Target's methods. In this case, the target * is the RenderInterpreter, and the observer is the RenderContext. Inherit * from this and overload the methods to provide the format-specific * rendering for each of the callback types. * * An example of how to call this: * * class PDFOutput : public RenderContext * { * * Overload all of RenderContext's methods..... * * bool myOutputMethod() { * RenderInterpreter ri(*this); * if (!ri.render(document)) { * //error message * return false; * } * return true; * } * * }; * */ class RendererContext { public: virtual bool drawRect(double width, double height, const Style &style); virtual bool drawEllipse(double x0, double y0, double x1, double y1, double major, double minor, const Style &style); virtual bool drawPath(blah......); }; /** * * This is the class that traverses the SPDocument's object tree, * reading all of the necessary information to render the image with * a given set of graphic primitives. * * As the tree is descended, all of the nested transform calculations * are performed, and style inheritances are analyzed. This allows * the RenderContexts to only worry about absolute coordinates and * styles, and keep their implementations simple. * */ class RenderInterpreter { public: RenderInterpreter(const RenderContext &context); bool render(const SPDOcument *doc){ /** * Traverse the tree, calling the primitive drawing * methods in the context */ return true; } private: RenderContext &context; }; #endif /* __RENDER_H__ */

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Contributing some CAD tools to Inkscape.
by Redefined Horizons 28 Aug '06

28 Aug '06

I've been using Inkscape for a couple of years now. I had inquired about adding some object snaps to Inkscape when I first started using the program, but I didn't know any C++ at the time, and didn't want to tackle the language. That has changed, since I'm now using a Linux box at home and work, in addition to my MS Windows boxes. I've been learning some C programming, and even bought a 900 page book on C++ programming. :] I volunteer as one of the project admins for an open source GIS/Mapping program. I was planning on creating a map drafting and printing extension for the program from scratch. However, someone wrote a plug-in for our program that allows us to export the data in SVG, and one of the users began producing cartographic quality maps in Inkscape! That really got my wheels turning. I am considering the possibility as using Inkscpape and perhaps Scribus as the main cartographic map production tools for our program. If this works out, I'd like to begin contributing to Inkscape as a developer. My primary areas of interest are object snapping and precision drafting/drawing tools. I'd also be interested in some advanced labeling tools, DXF import/export, layer management, and sheet layout for printing/plotting. I saw Matthew Squires was working on DXF support for Inkscape as part of Google's Summer of Code, but I didn't see any files on his SourceForge site yet. Is that project still ongoing? Is anyone else working on the areas I mentioned? (I took a look at the roadmap on the Inkscape site, but didn't see any of these things mentioned.) If you would be willing to put up with my questions, I'd be willing to help implement some of these features. :] I must warn you ahead of time, I do have a good knowledge of programming and XML, and even own a couple of textbooks on SVG, but I am a C++ rookie. I'm going to read over the Inkscape Developer's Manual posted on the wiki tonight. I'd look forward to some advice on how to get started. I think I'd like to start with the object snaps tools first. At any rate, I look forward to hearing from you guys about this, and hope I'll have the chance to improve a great open source tool I've been using for a long time. Scott Huey

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0.44.1 release
by MenTaLguY 28 Aug '06

28 Aug '06

Could someone please finish up the 0.44.1 release for me? It doesn't look like I'll have time to finish it anytime soon. At this point it's mostly done, though, I just need someone to: - work with the folks on inkscape-translator to get any remaining translation stuff in - do an 0.44.1pre2 release - make a final 0.44.1 release if there aren't any issues with 0.44.1pre2 -mental

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