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filter for inkscape and OpenDocument
by Jon Phillips 28 May '05

28 May '05

Heya, I just read your nice interview at groklaw (http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20050130002908154). First of all, this is really exciting, but I wonder if you could write up more about what is needed of Inkscape for this new format. I see in your interview you note that there is a needed filter for Inkscape, but it is not clarified what this means. I'm cc'ing the Inkscape development list about this. I just wonder how this OpenDocument format (the newly standardized open office xml format) relates to Inkscape and what you are asking to be done. Or do you want a filter that say one has an SVG file, then one can convert that to an OpenDocument file. I don't think that would be difficult. But, what about OpenOffice support for the SVG file format? Please copy me and/or the Inkscape-devel list and I will make sure they get the response. Or, please reply to me and the list if you are on Inkscape's list. Thanks, Jon -- Jon Phillips USA PH 510.499.0894 jon@...235... http://www.rejon.org Inkscape (http://inkscape.org) Open Clip Art Library (www.openclipart.org) CVS Book (http://cvsbook.ucsd.edu) Scale Journal (http://scale.ucsd.edu)

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Re: [Inkscape-user] Re: Nuevos Traducciones de Tutoriales/New Tutorials Translations
by unknown＠example.com 26 May '05

26 May '05

Quoting "R. Alan Monroe" <amonroe@...813...>: > Since it's vector art, couldn't you just put any additional > language texts in the svg file as a tiny micro-paragraph beside > the normal text? You could just zoom in to the alternative texts > or stretch them to read them. I don't think that would really be helpful, but it is an interesting idea. A similar approach would be to put all language texts in the same document (overlaying one another) and use the SVG <switch> element so that only the one matching the current language gets rendered. I'm not sure how well that would work, though, since different languages will have different paragraph lengths and to look nice might require the documents to be relaid-out depending on language (which <switch> can't do). Admittedly, we don't support the <switch> element yet, but it is planned. -mental

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dialogs cleanup
by bulia byak 26 May '05

26 May '05

Before we can think about a release, one thing we absolutely must do is clean up the current mess with dialogs. Everyone who did dialogs recently (and there were a lot) did it in their own incompatible way. (Personally, I attribute this to the lack of attention and leadership from the initiators of the gtkmm transition, but there's no use to argue about that now; let's just fix what we have.) Recently I've been working on the Dialog and DialogManager classes in ui/dialog, and I almost fixed them with regard to things like transientizing, remembering geometry, and F12 behavior. There are remaining issues still but I'm pretty sure I'll be able to fix them. Unfortunately, many dialogs do not use these classes or use them in a wrong way. The old gtk dialogs need not be touched at this time; they are OK as they are, and we can always convert them later. What needs to be fixed urgently is the recenty added gtkmm dialogs, all of which are broken in different ways. The simplest dialog to use as a template is ui/dialog/messages.cpp; another is ui/dialog/memory.cpp. To create a dialog, you need to pass the prefs path (path in the preferences.xml for the dialog settings; make sure it exists in preferences-skeleton.h) and the verb that creates the dialog (make sure it exists in verbs.h/cpp). E.g.: Messages::Messages() : Dialog ("dialogs.messages", SP_VERB_DIALOG_DEBUG) You also need to register the dialog's factory in DIalogManager constructor and to make sure its verb in verbs.cpp does the right thing: case SP_VERB_DIALOG_DEBUG: dt->_dlg_mgr->showDialog("Messages"); break; Also don't forget to remove your own F12 handlers, event handles, transientizing code, title setting, size setting etc. if you have it in your dialog classes. This is all in Dialog now. Not only will this stuff finally work as it must, but this will lead to a significant reducing of code. Here are the dialogs that need to be converted: Align: Unless Aubanel Monnier (who coded it initially) shows up, I think I'll have to take this one. View/Scripts and Path/Trace Bitmap: Bob, these are yours, so please take them. This needs to be done ASAP because currently these two are totally disfunctional - they don't show up when you call them. (This may be because they used ui/dialog code in some partial way and this is now broken after my changes there.) Object/Grid Arrange: John, this one is yours, please convert it - also ASAP because it's broken in the same way as Bob's ones. Object/Swatches and Help/About Extensions: Jon, these are yours. I know you did your own implementation but we now need to unify things. You can move whatever useful code you have into Dialog, but _that_ must be the root class of all dialogs now. No more duplication please. This will also fix the many problems your dialogs now have (such as popping up after being closed when any new dialog is opened). Jon, Bob, John: Please respond to this message with your estimate as to when you will be able to work on this. If you cannot handle this now or in foreseeable future, we'll need to call up volunteers for this work. Of course, please also voice any questions or objections you might have. Oh, and if anyone creates a new dialog now, please use ui/dialog/messages.cpp as a template. Don't copy from any other dialogs until they are fixed. -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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translatable strings
by Gazal, Geraud (GE Healthcare) 26 May '05

26 May '05

As you may know, Inkscape strings are facing a small problem : at the moment, the string _"H" is used in different contexts: as an abbreviation for Hue and for Height (see my clumsy patch proposal : http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1203796&group_id=9…) After taking a look at different mailing list and at Inkscape's wiki, it appears that the wiki links offers some good indications (cool). See http://www.gtkmm.org/gtkmm2/docs/tutorial/html/ch20s03.html in "Same strings, different semantics" But the solution suggested (adding some extra characters) is not really welcome. A much better approach can be foud here : http://developer.gnome.org/doc/tutorials/gnome-i18n/developer.html in "Don't use too short messages". So if you are OK with it, I'd be very interested at: - first improve the current state with short strings (XYWH, RGB, RGBA, HSV...): my plan would be creating some xywh_string = _"XYWH", rgb_string = _"RGB"... strings that would be translatable and then pick from those strings in the code replace H by xywh_string[4] or hsv_string[3] depending on the context - then improve our conformance against gnome HIG with : - increase the use of plural syntax (see "Plurals" in gnome-i18n) - improve the way Inkscape manages marked up string (see "Avoid markup wherever possible" in gnome-i18n) It would be a good opportunity for me improving my understanding of the code of Inkscape without the hazard of breaking everything. Regards, Matiphas

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Re: [Inkscape-user] Re: Nuevos Traducciones de Tutoriales/New Tutorials Translations
by bulia byak 26 May '05

26 May '05

Spanish translators suggest that we include the html/png versions of all tutorials into the Inkscape distribution as well. What do others think? I'm afraid this will blow the size considerably, especially if we include all languages (as we do for SVG tutorials). Maybe it's time to create language-specific distributions, at least for French and Spanish? Does anyone have experience with automating such things? On 5/25/05, jeffrey steve borbon sanabria <jeff_kerokid@...36...> wrote: > yes Bulia We want that- this translations would be > able to access in the inkscape application. Can you > include it on InkScape? > > "Por la libertad del hombre pensante, usemos software libre" > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Información de Estados Unidos y América Latina, en Yahoo! Noticias. > Visítanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is sponsored by: GoToMeeting - the easiest way to collaborate > online with coworkers and clients while avoiding the high cost of travel and > communications. There is no equipment to buy and you can meet as often as > you want. Try it free.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7402&alloc_id=16135&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-user mailing list > Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user > -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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Path Parsing
by unknown＠example.com 24 May '05

24 May '05

Bulia, this morning there was another path parsing bug in the tracker and so there is another patch. I have a path parsing question that I do not think is answered by the svg spec. All commands may be followed by any number of sets of parameters. So L0,0 3,4 7,2 is actually L0,0 L3,4 L7,2 Moveto implies Lineto. So M0,0 3,4 7,2 is actually M0,0 L3,4 L7,2 How should one interpret this: L0,0 L3,4 L7,2 Z 1,5 It would seem to me that it should be L0,0 L3,4 L7,2 Z M0,0 L1,5 Because Moveto implies Lineto and Closepath should imply Moveto because the spec says that any following commands begin a new subpath at the previous subpaths initial point. Answers? Aaron Spike

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Inkscape project status
by Bryce Harrington 24 May '05

24 May '05

Project Status Sunday, May 15, 2005 Coding activity appears to have picked up quite a bit over this past month, with 20,000 lines of code added. Looks like there's also been a surge of code documentation activity, with 7,000 lines added, or a 10% increase from what we'd had. Very cool! I hear SourceForge is getting ready to roll out their new statistics system, but apparently this hasn't happened yet. ;-) We're going to continue in development mode for the remainder of the month, and then around June 1st will enter into a bug fix mode to start preparing for a release. We've got over 200 bugs open. I'm not sure what we should set as a goal for the release, but hopefully we can knock that count down significantly. Statistics Feb 15 Mar 15 Apr 15 May 15 ========== ====== ====== ====== ====== Lifetime Rank on SourceForge: * * * * * * * * Max Week's Rank on SourceForge: * * * * * * * * Total SF Page Views * * * * Total SF Downloads * * * * Total Freshmeat URL Hits 16,448 17,186 17,930 18,691 Total Freshmeat Subscriptions 169 173 177 181 Lines of Code in src/: 333,139 342,852 340,515 373,651 Code lines 234,651 241,177 238,522 259,984 Comment line 58,239 60,354 60,382 67,053 Blank 46,859 47,978 48,152 53,244 Lines of Docs in doc/: 26,848 26,848 26,848 26,848 Lines of content in website: 9,776 10,067 35,937 39,865 Size of the Inkscape wiki: 24,925 25,900 26,363 27,052 Bugs open/total: 155/972 182/1047 194/1126 208/1196 Features open/total: 370/579 397/ 619 429/ 671 442/ 712 Patches open/total: 5/167 7/ 173 5/ 186 11/ 221 CVS Commits (as per inkscape-cvs) 10,312 10,868 11,368 11,897 Inkscape-devel membership: 151 158 166 173 Inkscape-announce membership: 169 177 189 197 Inkscape-user membership: 193 220 234 242 Num Translations: 33 33 33 33 Ave Translation Ratio: 47.8 45.0 47.5 47.0 * - Statistics unavailable

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Inkscape crashing on "open file" on Mac OS X
by Marcus Silva 23 May '05

23 May '05

When I am running Inkscape in GNOME on my Mac (installed through fink), I cannot open any files unless I specify files from the command line from the --file option. If I try to use the "open file" dialog, inkscape freezes, eventually a dialog box opens up saying that Inkscape encountered an error, but that is also frozen, and if I am lucky another dialog opens up giving me the option to force quit (i guess this is a GNOME dialog box). Using the "kill" command works otherwise without a problem. 1 - Start Inkscape in GNOME running on fink 2 - Click "File Open" Icon OR 1 - Start Inkscape in GNOME running on fink 2 - Go to "File" menu, and click "Open" The odd thing is that this only happens when I run Inkscape from GNOME (within Xnest, or when running X11 in full screen mode). If I run Inkscape with quartz-wm, no GNOME, things work fine (except, of course, that drop down menus appear behind the windows). Has anyone encountered this before? Marcus

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LaTeX Export
by Michael Forbes 23 May '05

23 May '05

I have attached my initial draft of a LaTeX export internal extension I wrote. It currently uses PSTricks so is very similar to the PostScript extension. It currently does not implement gradients, transparency, text, images and has some problems with unit conversion and seems to be rotated awkwardly. Can anyone pitch in with some of these problems? -Michael Forbes ------------------------------------------------------------ Student System Operator binx.mbhs.edu BEN Manager http://ben.mbhs.edu BNC Internet Division http://bnc.mbhs.edu MBHS Webmaster http://www.mbhs.edu BlazerNet President http://blazernet.mbhs.edu Computer Team Co-President http://computerteam.mbhs.edu MBLUG President http://mblug.mbhs.edu ------------------------------------------------------------

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Updated inkscape.nsi
by Bob Jamison 23 May '05

23 May '05

I committed the Czech and French strings that Cornelius and Matiphas provided. (Thanks! ;-) Someone might want to check it out in NSIS, if they have time. (I am Unix-only while at the office). Bob

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