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Effects on Windows
by unknown＠example.com 11 May '05

11 May '05

It looks like the Win32 snapshot builds linked on the downloads page have been absent for the last few days. But Bob Jamison had one from May 11, 2005. I just tested it and Effects now work unmodified on Windows. Thanks Ted. On a related note can anyone tell me how to install XML::XQL::DOM with ActiveState Perl on Windows? It is required for the DropShadow effect, so it might be a useful bit of info to have hanging around in the mailing list archives. Aaron Spike

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Inkscape 0.42 and gtkmm
by Bryce Harrington 11 May '05

11 May '05

Hi all, Recently I've been appraising how much work it's going to take to achieve the goal we set for 0.42 to get converted to gtkmm. The choice to switch to gtkmm was made at the very start of the project, so it's always been one of our biggest goals. Several actions we took in our earlier releases were geared towards this end. In fact, we've been planning to convert to gtkmm for several releases now. Of course, this is not a trivial undertaking. Initially we approached doing it piecemeal, one dialog at a time. Several dialogs got converted, but we noticed that each dialog turned out surprisingly different than the others. This is where I got involved - to try to help establish some common practices for implementing dialogs. I also figured that even though I had other stuff I wanted to work on (i.e. markers and extensions), for project priorities it was probably more valuable to pitch in with getting progress on the gtkmm stuff. Today I think the new dialog code is pretty good. There is a base class we can use for dialogs, that provides the common behaviors, and a DialogManager to better track their memory and instantiation. The individual dialogs still need to all be converted over, but we've already got a handful converted, and there's another handful that are already in gtkmm but just need to be restyled to work with the new code. So now, the rest of the dialog conversion work *can* be done piece by piece, without risking problematic inconsistencies. However, converting to gtkmm means much more than just converting each dialog; the main interface (toolbars, buttons, canvas, etc.) also needs to be turned into gtkmm code. This requires conversion of SPView, SPSvgView, SPDesktop, and SPDesktopView. SPDesktop alone is a pretty big project; I've been hammering at it bit by bit for the past few months but feel like I've barely made a dent. It's pretty frustrating; I feel like I'm pulling the proverbial thread from the sweater. Anyway, given what it looks like needs to be done, I don't really have the time/patience/energy to see the View/Desktop work through to completion by myself. There are other things I want to do for Inkscape and Open Clip Art that are higher priority to me. If someone else wants to work on it, I can share what I've learned and explain what it looks like needs to be done. Finally, given this, I see no point in continuing with the goal of completing gtkmm for 0.42. It's just too much effort, compared with the number of people committed to working on it. I hate the idea of having to yet again bump it to the next release, though. If it couldn't be achieved for 0.39, 0.40, 0.41, and 0.42, why would we think it could be done for 0.43? I think that given the lack of activity, the most logical thing is to just postpone it indefinitely. The work just seems to get in the way of making releases, and given that people are more interested in working on misc. individual things rather than gtkmm, anyway, there's little value in setting it as a goal; it just sets up expectations that are proving unachievable. The desire for a release is clearly much higher than the desire to finish implementing gtkmm at this time. Thus, I would like to propose we scrap the remaining plans for 0.42 in the roadmap, and go ahead and start the 0.42 release process. Opinions? Bryce

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[bryce@...260...: Re: inkscape/po/POTFILES.in]
by Bryce Harrington 11 May '05

11 May '05

Peter, FYI -- ----- Forwarded message from Bryce Harrington <bryce@...260...> ----- Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 15:41:11 -0700 From: Bryce Harrington <bryce@...260...> To: Arpad Biro <biro_arpad@...36...> Subject: Re: inkscape/po/POTFILES.in Hmm... Sorry, I didn't realize it had been put in intentionally. That line was causing several of us compile errors yesterday; is there any other way we could address the underlying issue? Bryce On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 03:28:29PM -0700, Arpad Biro wrote: > Hi, > > I needed to revert your change in $SUBJECT, which means I added > "[encoding: UTF-8]" again to that file. I need that line because > otherwise the following happens: > > # ../intltool-update --pot > ERROR: xgettext failed to generate PO template file because there is > non-ASCII > string marked for translation. Please make sure that all strings > marked > for translation are in uniform encoding (say UTF-8), then > *prepend* the > following line to POTFILES.in and rerun intltool-update: > > [encoding: UTF-8] > > > > > Because of this, I cannot update PO files without that line. > > > Arpad Biro > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > ----- End forwarded message -----

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Inkscape 0.42 release plans
by Bryce Harrington 11 May '05

11 May '05

Hi all, After talking several developers, I think the idea of a release is good, but folks still have development work to finish up. I think we should leave the rest of this month to development, and move into a bug fixing phase starting around June 1st, with a goal of producing 0.42 some time in June or early July. Bryce

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simple bug fix for configure.ac
by Jeremy C. Reed 11 May '05

11 May '05

Please fix the test = conditional in configure.ac. -if test "x$gc_ok" == "xyes"; then +if test "x$gc_ok" = "xyes"; then This == is not portable. If replying, please carbon-copy me. Jeremy C. Reed BSD News, BSD tutorials, BSD links http://www.bsdnewsletter.com/

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problem with parasite cross over in translations
by unknown＠example.com 10 May '05

10 May '05

Hi A few days ago, I've submitted small patch and Bulia has kindly commited it. This patch was focusing on /src/select-toolbar.cpp so that X, Y, W (idth), H (eight) strings become translatable. The problem is that now, in all .pot file, H can conflict with H (ue) of the color tab of clonetiler.cpp dialog. See the following extract of fr.po # Hue (in HSV) # Dialog item #: src/dialogs/clonetiler.cpp:2170 src/select-toolbar.cpp:424 msgid "H" msgstr "T" and the attached screenshots So I'm afraid my idea of having those strings translatable was not so good, and my patch, a dummy one... Maybe Arpad or another experienced translator has already faced the same kind of problem and knows a workaround (I hope). I apologize for the annoyance. Regards, Matiphas

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LaTeX Export
by Michael Forbes 10 May '05

10 May '05

I am trying to develop a barebones LaTeX export extension. I have wrote the code mostly based of the PovRay export and included the .h and .cpp file in src/extension/internal/Makefile_insert. libinternal.a includes the extension but the main program does not. Can anyone help me with this? Thank you. -Michael Forbes ------------------------------------------------------------ Student System Operator binx.mbhs.edu BEN Manager http://ben.mbhs.edu BNC Internet Division http://bnc.mbhs.edu MBHS Webmaster http://www.mbhs.edu BlazerNet President http://blazernet.mbhs.edu Computer Team Co-President http://computerteam.mbhs.edu MBLUG President http://mblug.mbhs.edu ------------------------------------------------------------

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Defaulting gnome-vfs to yes
by Bryce Harrington 10 May '05

10 May '05

I've committed a change to configure.ac which defaults the GNOME VFS feature to 'on' if automake detects that the Gnome VFS library is present on the system. Keep an eye out for bugs; I've fixed all the ones I've known about. As a reminder, the GNOME VFS feature makes it possible to specify a URL on the commandline when starting inkscape. I.e.: $ inkscape http://mysite.org/foobar.svg It will load the svg file via http into memory and launch Inkscape. There is no support for this in the File Open dialog at this time; it still works only with local files. I don't have any plans to change that, so if you want it, feel free to add it. Bryce

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NEW: <style> rendering support
by Peter Moulder 10 May '05

10 May '05

Inkscape now understands <style> elements: it correctly renders the following simple document: <svg> <defs> <style type="text/css"> .strokeblue {stroke:blue;stroke-width:5} .fillred {fill:red} </style> </defs> <rect x="10" y="10" width="50" height="50" /> <rect x="70" y="10" width="50" height="50" class="strokeblue" /> <rect x="130" y="10" width="50" height="50" class="fillred" /> <rect x="190" y="10" width="50" height="50" class="fillred strokeblue" /> </svg> There are a number of limitations: - Allows a single <style> element in the document. Doesn't allow external stylesheets, doesn't allow more than one <style> element. (Or rather it ignores all but one of the <style> elements, possibly changing which one it respects based on which was most recently re-read.) See notes below. - No editing interface other than the XML editor. (There are two parts to this: (i) editing the stylesheet; (ii) specifying what classes each object belongs to.) - Doesn't respect media restrictions (e.g. ignores "this rule applies only to non-visual media" directives, and doesn't allow having one style for print and another style for on-screen). - Someone more familiar with how to subclass an SPObject (i.e. what methods need to be instantiated and how) should have a look at sp-style-elem.cpp. - Not tested much. > > As members of the s4-p18, me Mamdouh El Tabech and Nicolas Jacquey, we are > > interested now in trying to solve the bug of global style. > > > The problem is divided into two, whether the style was included in the > > beginning of the document or it was in an extra file. > > > Do you have any idea to help us in where and what to change? The limitation of just one author stylesheet per document is an oversight in libcroco datastructures. Dodji (libcroco maintainer) agrees it's a libcroco bug, and the CRCascade or CRStyleSheet data structure can be changed accordingly. (The way most of libcroco implements `list of T' is for the T struct to get next/prev members, i.e. add next & prev members to CRStyleSheet, add cr_stylesheet_* functions for accessing this list, and leave CRCascade unchanged. Not saying I like the current scheme, but I think we should use the same scheme throughout libcroco, and consider changing the scheme throughout libcroco at once.) Meanwhile, Inkscape will also need changing: SPStyleElem's read_content method will need to update just its own CRStyleSheet, and we'll need to make sure that the list of stylesheets in the CRCascade matches the order of their occurrence in the document, so that we get the right precedence when stylesheets conflict with each other. I don't know the right way of handling external stylesheets. Does any other part of inkscape allow external xlink:href's ? libcroco's CRInput either already allows URLs or at least has it planned. (I don't have the source code handy here.) Handling @media rules and <style>'s media attribute is a Simple Matter of Programming. Existing code: SPStyleElem has a media field defined in media.{cpp,h}, initialized to all media. pjrm. -- bbyak: swatches, rich text, gradient on canvas... JonCruz: The answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe, and everything... JonCruz: Inkscape 0.42!!!!!!!

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10 May '05

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