February 2004 - Inkscape Devel

RE: Inkscape minor changes I'd like before the next release (if acceptable)
by bulia byak 02 Feb '04

02 Feb '04

>On most of the keyboards I have seen the right Alt key is labelled AltGr >(which as far as I can remember is short for Alternative Graphic which is >a holdover from back in the days of machines like the Commodore 64 where >holding down AltGr and a letter would print a graphical symbol). > >I tried using them, lots of crashing >http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=887327&group_id=93… Thanks for reporting, that crash is now fixed in CVS. > > No. Arrows are for moving. Rotation is different and needs different >keys. > >I disagree (rotation is still moving and I think) using differnt keys is >unnecessary. No. It's a very different kind of moving. If only because moving has four directions and rotation only two (as I wrote you before). You cannot unambiguously map rotation directions to (some of the) four arrows. And finally, arrows are already so busy with different kinds of moving/panning that adding rotation to them would produce a total mess. Nobody will be able to remember those shortcuts. >If i can get a working build I will be sure to try using the keys you >proposed but using both Alt keys as you have suggested seems like it >would be quite awkward. It's a bit awkward physically, but it's very easy mentally. It's easy to understand the logic behind these shortcuts and therefore to remember them. Try to invent another system where you can scale/rotate both handles or any single one of them, with two different speeds. Without using left/right alt trick, these keys will likely occupy half of your keyboard and will be impossible to remember. > > Panning must not depend on whether there is a selection. > >I dont understand. Can you explain why? Because I may want to pan regardless of any selection, of course! > > >I'm thinking maybe also that you cannot have a meaningful 'rotate' when > > >you are in Node Edit mode (as opposed to the standard select mode) > > > > Yes I can. Select a node and press [ or ]. > >I alway think of the node as being the point specifically, you mean to >rotate the bezier spline (i think spline is the word I'm looking for, you >know the lines that go throught the node and that you can adjust to change >the curve). Not spline, but the control handles of the bezier attached to the node. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoi…

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] fullscreen
by bulia byak 02 Feb '04

02 Feb '04

>On Sat, 2004-01-31 at 14:11, Johan Ceuppens wrote: > > I've put in a ctrl-F11 shortcut. I'm not familiar with Illustrator, so >I've > > put in ctrl-shift-F11 to revert back. Is that ok ? > >Well, probably just having a single keybinding to toggle to/from >fullscreen would be fine. Agreed, I think just F11 to toggle fullscreen would be nice, and it will line up with F12 which hides/shows dialogs. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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Inscape Status Jan 31, 2004
by Bryce Harrington 01 Feb '04

01 Feb '04

Project Status Saturday, January 31, 2004 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We're currently in a pre-feature freeze mode, focusing on closing bugs and doing some other cleanups to ensure the upcoming 0.37 release is solid. A full feature freeze will occur shortly, and we anticipate the final release occuring before the next status report. Much of the effort the past two weeks have focused on bug fixes, minor feature enhancements, and other tweaks. Here's just a brief synopsis of some of the work lately: Attention has been put into the handling of icons, including some fixes for Win32. Further discussion over keyboard shortcuts has identified some improvement tweaks. Some documentation updates/rewrites have been done. A discussion about a remove/apply transformations has resulted in some good ideas and sparked some coding effort in that direction. We've temporarily disabled the 'Filters' menu, with the plan to reactivate it later when we've gotten it more useful. Some discussion on renaming the Dialogs menu has also occurred. A code style document has been drafted after much debate and haggling, and we're looking forward to applying our new rules on the codebase well into the future. A full screen mode has been added. SourceForge has been problematic the past couple weeks, with both CVS and email being either extremely slow, or unavailable entirely. We expect the mailing list problems to resolve themselves once the MyDoom virus has passed; the CVS issue appears to be more chronic so we are considering alternative providers and will be switching once a suitable one is found. We recognized a need for a tutorial, and after considering some of the more typical options like firing off the default HTML browser or tying in with platform-specific help systems, we hit on a novel idea - why not use Inkscape's SVG text subsystem directly, like is done with the About Inkscape dialog box? What better way to teach SVG than to present it in SVG directly? :-) This has inspired a *bunch* more ideas that we hope to see folks explore in the future. Statistics Nov 15 Nov 29 Dec 15 Dec 31 Jan 15 Jan 31 ========== ====== ====== ====== ====== ====== ====== Lifetime Rank on SourceForge: 4391 3676 2452 2444 1928 1945 (68.5%) (73.6%) (82.4%) (82.5%) (86.1%) (86.1%) Max Week's Rank on SourceForge: 62 37 27 22 321 335 (99.6%) (99.8%) (99.8%) (99.9%) (97.5%) (97.8%) Total SF Page Views * 50,000 86,000 107,600 126,500 158,000 Total SF Downloads * 1700 3640 4,751 5,735 7,300 Total Freshmeat URL Hits 746 1121 2237 2567 2,958 3,178 Total Freshmeat Subscriptions 16 19 28 30 33 34 Lines of Code in src/: 115,901 116,970 132,134 165,664 166,914 164,140 Code lines 100,549 132,458 133,150 130,557 Comment line 11,591 12,234 12,468 12,424 Blank 20,559 21.540 21,929 21,796 Lines of Docs in doc/: 1,135 2,100 2,225 2,615 3,068 3,505 Lines of content in website: 1,173 1,624 2,090 2,261 2,885 2,994 Size of the Inkscape wiki: 3,700 5,737 7,385 11,062 11,284 11,897 Minutes since last ChangeLog mod: 360 120 1260 42 6 4 Bugs open/total: 9/15 40/51 67/111 66/130 74/160 61/166 Features open/total: 18/18 23/24 40/45 103/115 104/120 108/124 Patches open/total: 1/ 6 5/20 6/25 4/32 4/32 3/33 CVS Commits (as per inkscape-cvs): 481 963 * 1580 * 2343 Inkscape-devel membership: 49 61 64 65 64 63 Inkscape-announce membership: 9 14 16 20 22 23 Inkscape-user membership: 0 11 * - Statistics unavailable

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] RE: Inkscape minor changes I'd like before the next release (if acceptable)
by Jonathan Phillips 01 Feb '04

01 Feb '04

Usually when you see caps from me, its because my hand hit the caps key on accident :) Cool man...Do you live in Chicago? Someone on our list lives in Chicago. I'm gonna be there in 2 weeks...fyi Jon On Sat, 2004-01-31 at 17:13, Alan Horkan wrote: > On Sat, 31 Jan 2004, Jonathan Phillips wrote: > > > Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 17:07:36 -0800 > > From: Jonathan Phillips <jon@...15...> > > To: Alan Horkan <horkana@...44...> > > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] RE: Inkscape minor changes I'd like before > > the next release (if acceptable) > > > > Alan, > > > > I think our development crew value comments, suggestions and posts to > > the bug tracker. Please don't mistake my comments as against that, but > > rather as constructive-criticism for a debate that is in favor of the > > person who fixes the "engine," so to speak. > > > > We need developers of all skill-levels, and not just programmers. > > Sorry, I saw the All-Caps and my brain switched off temporarily and I > overreacted. > > If Inkscape wasn't so differnt from the GIMP and Dia in how it handles > it's shortcuts and I could get it to build I could probably with a little > difficulty provide patches for keybindings. > > It is difficult for me to convince developers I'm right at least in a > certain way. When confronted by the 'show me the attitude' all I can do > it politely state my case and try not to take it personally. > > I need to improve my 'building' skills if i want to get more of a chance > to prove my 'architecture' skills > > Thanks for the feedback. I do appreciate that you engage my arguements > and I sometimes overreact a little but I think I can safely put that down > to how difficult it can be to express oneself clearly using only the > written word. > > Sincerely > > Alan Horkan > http://advogato.org/person/AlanHorkan/ -- Jonathan Phillips <jon@...15...>

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Win32 path fix
by Bob Jamison 01 Feb '04

01 Feb '04

I added a fix to Win32 for Inkscape to load its resource files relative to the executable, from wherever Inkscape.exe is called. This is essential for calling Inkscape from other than the current directory, or double-clicking an icon. This is especially useful for associating ".svg" with Inkscape. If, for example, you used this Registry file (with the path name corrected for your box), you could double-click a .svg file and have Inkscape open it. Save it as inkscape.reg, and double-click it to add to the registry. The latest automated Win32 build has this enabled. I guess that in the future this Registry entry should be done by an installer. ======= SNIP ======= REGEDIT4 [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.svg] @="svgfile" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\svgfile] @="Scalable Vector Graphics File" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\svgfile\shell] [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\svgfile\shell\edit] @="" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\svgfile\shell\edit\command] @="C:\\inkscape\\inkscape.exe \"%1\""

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