February 2004 - Inkscape Devel

User Comments?
by Michael Wheeler 24 Feb '04

24 Feb '04

Hi Everyone, I do design (mostly for tee shirts), and I love what you have been doing with Inkscape (although I must admit that I am still using Illustrator for most of my work). Anyway, is it appropriate for me to post to this list (not being a developer)? I have plenty of thoughts on the things that are being discussed here and on the wiki, but my programming skills are pretty weak. On another issue, I've noticed that making an item insensitive does not prevent it from being selected by a rubberband or a shift-click. Is this the intended behavior, or should I submit a bug? -Michael http://www.planet-zero.net

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auto scrolling
by bulia byak 24 Feb '04

24 Feb '04

* The canvas is now scrolled automatically when you drag an object/node or do a rubberband selection and go beyond the edge of the canvas. Comments welcome. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/features&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin…

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] Are these bugs?
by bulia byak 24 Feb '04

24 Feb '04

>...why are the values different for the two different dialogues: > >http://www.charlietech.com/tmp/inkscape-oo-er.png 404 Not Found /tmp/inkscape-oo-er.png was not found on this server. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoi…

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] Are these bugs?
by bulia byak 24 Feb '04

24 Feb '04

>1) Add a gradient fill to shape A, then combine it exclusively with > another shape B to leave the remainder of shape A. If you copy > then paste A, it gives you back the correct shape but filled only > with black instead of the gradient. I cannot reproduce this as described. This can be either bug 853858 or 901978. If neither of these two fits your situation, please submit a new bug with detailed steps to reproduce and an attached sample file. >2) Add a gradient fill to shape A, then combine it exclusively with > another shape B to leave a shape that is originally smaller than > the original shape A. The gradient fill is scaled to the new > shape rather than keeping it's settings relative to the new shape > size as is most likely desired. Again, I cannot reproduce this. Please file a bug with an attached sample. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] Are these bugs?
by bulia byak 24 Feb '04

24 Feb '04

>3) After creating a rectangle, I can highlight it and select 'rect > properties' from the context menu where I can edit the X/Y and > other properties. If I then combinethe rectangle with another > shape, I can not find any way to manually edit the X/Y properties > other than rather clumsily in the XML editor. That's because a shape after any boolean operation becomes a generic path, and ceases to be any special shape it was before (such as a rect). In a general case, you cannot expect a result of a boolean operation to be anything but a path. However, for X/Y you don't need XML editor. Switch to Selector - there are convenient spinbuttons for X, Y, W and H in the top panel under the menu. They work for any object. >Another thing I would note is that I really would like to be able to >have a dialogue open to show the currently selected shape details so I >can quickly sift through different shapes without opening additional >dialogues. As it is, I can only open up details for individual shapes >and must do so for every single one. But that's a 'feature request'. ;) That's what the top panel is for. Currently it's mostly empty but we plan to add all kinds of tool-specific controls to it. E.g. if you have a star selected, switch to the star tool and you'll have fields for the number of rays, ratio etc. in the top panel, and these fields will reflect and affect the currently selected shape(s). _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/features&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin…

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] inverse handles
by bulia byak 23 Feb '04

23 Feb '04

>One thing though. Do you think the handles are too large? Maybe. However if we stress usability, this is good. And it's difficult to make discernible and solid arrows in a smaller size. (You can try, it's in src/pixmaps/handles.xpm which can be edited in a text editor.) Personally I would prefer smaller and simpler ones (just little squares), but that's for power users. Maybe at some point in the future, we'll implement user-selectable (and user-definable) handle styles. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoi…

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Are these bugs?
by Charles Goodwin 23 Feb '04

23 Feb '04

Sorry about asking here. I just wanted to check before tracking down my sf login details to do it there. 1) Add a gradient fill to shape A, then combine it exclusively with another shape B to leave the remainder of shape A. If you copy then paste A, it gives you back the correct shape but filled only with black instead of the gradient. 2) Add a gradient fill to shape A, then combine it exclusively with another shape B to leave a shape that is originally smaller than the original shape A. The gradient fill is scaled to the new shape rather than keeping it's settings relative to the new shape size as is most likely desired. 3) After creating a rectangle, I can highlight it and select 'rect properties' from the context menu where I can edit the X/Y and other properties. If I then combinethe rectangle with another shape, I can not find any way to manually edit the X/Y properties other than rather clumsily in the XML editor. Another thing I would note is that I really would like to be able to have a dialogue open to show the currently selected shape details so I can quickly sift through different shapes without opening additional dialogues. As it is, I can only open up details for individual shapes and must do so for every single one. But that's a 'feature request'. ;) -- - Charlie Charles Goodwin <charlie@...208...> Online @ http://www.charlietech.com

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Joining GNOME Office
by Charles Goodwin 23 Feb '04

23 Feb '04

On Thu, 2004-02-19 at 23:56, Martin Sevior wrote: > Well from an AbiWord perspective we're doing pretty much these things > too. We're certainly exploring new ways of improving the UI and adding > features and functionality not found in OOo or MS Word. ...which is what makes GO (or, more accurately for the moment, GO applications) so damned good. We're not cloning, we're innovating; we're doing things the right way as we see it even if it differs from the current normal. > They're far from [a fully integrated suite that is a drop-in > replacement for MSO] but they do have good MS Word filters. I pity the > poor secretary forced to use OOo after years of MS Office. To me the > point is that with OOo it is possible to exist without MS Office. Well, I was talking more about their philosophy and goal as opposed to the current state of OOo. > Charles would like us to produce a roadmap. From my perspective such > things are really hard. I find it hard enough to know when I personally > will complete things in my goals. Predicting what other people will do > is even harder. Yes, I would like to see a roadmap. But you seem to be referring to something as detailed as the Mozilla roadmap or the OOo roadmap. Currently there really is nothing other than the developers' intentions which are shared relatively privately (probably unintentionally) through various emails and are very difficult to track down. Which, in reality, amounts to nothing publicly. I'm not expecting a thorough document. But something would be better than nothing. Just a list of the applications aspiring to be part of GO and what their main goals are in order to achieve that. A bulleted list of the overall goals is what I'm asking for. Something simple but something solid and easy to understand. Eg: (and this is my hypothetical example, nothing official) Gnumeric: - fully foster plugin framework to libgoffice - separate out and charting engine into library Just like that for each application; short and simple. I don't think that's much to ask, do you? Then, at a glance, everybody knows where they stand in regards to their project and everybody else's. Then it can be built up from there as we identify and agree on ways in which GO can benefit from further integration between applications and those goals can also be listed. We are not a complex organisation like OOo or Mozilla. But without defining basic goals (even broad ones) then how do the projects know what to work towards? If we define nothing then projects will go in their own direction on some fundamental issues, which may lead to problems down the line. I think that identifying basic goals and priorities early, _now_, will be the key to making GO a suite in the near future. Otherwise it will be a long, long time before we can call GO a suite instead of a collection of loosely-related applications. -- - Charlie The future of the net - www.xwt.org Charles Goodwin <charlie@...208...> Member of the XWT Foundation

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bugs on one page
by Jonathan Phillips 23 Feb '04

23 Feb '04

BTW-our bug tracker bugs all fit on one page now! Yea! Jon -- Jonathan Phillips <jon@...15...>

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os x packages
by Jonathan Phillips 23 Feb '04

23 Feb '04

Has anyone built a mac os x dmg package? Several of my artist friends are wanting to install/try Inkscape for OS X and need a simple way to get it up and running? It would be great if an OS X user/developer could spend like 10 minutes on this page: http://inkscape.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?MacOSXPort Thanks, Jon -- Jonathan Phillips <jon@...15...>

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