April 2005 - Inkscape Devel - Inkscape Mailman

Re: [Inkscape-user] some pdf creation info
by Erik 07 Apr '05

07 Apr '05

Craig, I have used the pdf printer route with Inkscape numerous times but have always been a bit disappointed. I tried again this evening using a recent cvs with a test file containing a rectangle (+radial gradient) +star (+linear gradient) + spiral +some text. While this is hardly of mind shattering complexity there was an awful lot of huffing and puffing. Saved as svg the file size was 6KB. Saved as pdf the file size was 959KB. then I changed the gradients to uniform grey. Saved as pdf the file size was still 575KB. Some observations. I am using the PrimoPDF driver as downloaded, and saving in Screen mode. Win2000 and PentiumIII933. The saving takes ages - as in a couple of minutes. However, once it gets there the pdf contains the colour and the gradients. I remember trying transparency as well some time ago and that was ok too. The line quality onscreen is pretty bad but improves with magnification up until the jaggies come in. The slow speed and large file sizes are definitely a concern. I have not looked at what a "realistic" file would be like in terms of time. But if a svg file of say 60KB produced a pdf file of 10MB then I would doubt its use! Having said that, I must admit there are lots of issues with PDFs and even a very fast program such as Xarax. There the gradients/transparencies/other special effects are often changed into bitmaps and produce huge files. Interestingly, exchanging gradients for say 20% grey in Xarax brings the file size back down to sensible figures. We do not seem to have quite got there yet. Xarax also does not seem to suffer the time problems that Inkscape does. However, we know there are time problems and have done for some time. Maybe at this stage we should be thankful that we can get pdfs in this way at all. There are also many PDF printer solutions out there. It would be good for someone to look at a few of them and find out which is the most efficient at this stage. Certainly pdf capability is a limiting factor in my use of Inkscape at present. Erik ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Gotthardt" <craig2b@...782...> To: "'InkScape-Users'" <inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 8:54 PM Subject: [Inkscape-user] some pdf creation info > > I have found that on xp (0.41.win.exe) CutePDF works to create a basic pdf > directly from inkcsape. It installs as a printer. > NOTE: ("dependency") needs Ghostscript to convert. > I dont know about linux? But Im sure theres something out there to use. > http://www.cutepdf.com/products/CutePDF/writer.asp > > Craig

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Re: [Inkscape-user] 0.41 autopackage - missing dependencies
by unknown＠example.com 07 Apr '05

07 Apr '05

Quoting Bryce Harrington <bryce@...260...>: > I think it would be invaluable for 0.42 that this whole > approach should be rethought and reimplemented in a clearer way. Not just invaluable but mandatory, IMO. It's been a usability disaster. -mental

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Re: [Inkscape-user] icon theming
by MenTaLguY 07 Apr '05

07 Apr '05

> My 16x16px icon got scaled down to about 10px in the toolbar. What's the magic here? I would like to be able to tell you why the icons are the size they are, but the icon drawing code we inherited from Sodipodi is scary and nobody quite understands it... :P I'll CC the devel list in case perhaps the gtkmmification team has made any breakthroughs studying and/or rewriting that code. -mental

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Re: [Inkscape-user] autosave ?
by MenTaLguY 07 Apr '05

07 Apr '05

On Sat, 2004-06-19 at 18:04, Florent wrote: > So I'm appealing to anyone who can create an autosave :-) We already have autosave-on-crash already, actually. The one catch is that for crashes due to failed assertions (like this one), it isn't triggered yet. (I'm CCing the development mailing list, if anyone's interested in attacking this right now: At least on Unix, this is relatively easy to fix -- just set up a SIGABRT handler similar to the SIGSEGV handler we have now. The one catch is that the handler will need to disable itself as soon as it is triggered, because the autosave code raises SIGABRT when it is done. Also we should make sure we've got SIGBUS covered if we don't already.) -mental

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New dialog/panel junk
by Jon A. Cruz 07 Apr '05

07 Apr '05

I've started a bit of stuff on my "Panels" replacement for subclassing dialogs. It's on the Wiki, linked under "User Interface Discussion" http://www.inkscape.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?DialogReplacement Bulia, see? I have a plan. :-)

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Gristle down?
by Bob Jamison 06 Apr '05

06 Apr '05

Is it just me, or is Gristle.org down? (Normally I wouldn't post something like this, but I can't get onto irc.freenode.net to check) Bob

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Absurd stack bottom value\n inkscape v0.41
by jerry ondola 06 Apr '05

06 Apr '05

the subject line is what is recieved after attempting to run inkscape 0.41 from the command line. using the gui interface, it quitely dies, no error messages. this is on gentoo. i've filed bug report #1176668, this happens with the CVS version and the emerge version. there where no other errors reported with or during the emerge. any other troubleshooting that i can do before dumping this version and going back to 0.37, which works fine ? thanks for the suggestions jerry __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com

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New features in Illustrator
by Joshua A. Andler 05 Apr '05

05 Apr '05

Just thought I'd throw the link on the list so you can all see what they're up to... http://www.adobe.com/products/illustrator/newfeatures.html Boy does that "Control Palette" look awfully familiar. ; ) (yeah, I know Xara had it first, but still... goes to show how they're playing catch-up in some areas) The Live Painting and Enhanced Stroke options look interesting... I question how much better their new "live tracing" is, compared to their old tracing engine (as it is supposedly much better). The rest of the "new features" don't look too interesting to me (other than the custom workspaces, which might be handy... but it's something only a fringe crowd would benefit from). Just figured I'd see what others opinions were. -Josh

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Palette loading
by Jon A. Cruz 04 Apr '05

04 Apr '05

I got palette loading in last night. It now looks in the /usr/local/share/inkscape/palettes and ~/.inkscape/palettes directories for any Gimp-style palette files and loads them all up. Of course... that was just loading. :-) I'll check in soon to add UI changes to allow switching the palette displayed in the swatches window.

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undo crash
by bulia byak 04 Apr '05

04 Apr '05

Mental, I had to revert document-undo.cpp to 1.21 because your version crashes on any attempt to undo with: ** ERROR **: file xml/simple-session.cpp: line 45 (virtual Inkscape::XML::Event* Inkscape::XML::SimpleSession::commitUndoable()): assertion failed: (_in_transaction) aborting... Sorry I didn't discover this yesterday, was too busy with other things. But please do be more careful with testing before committing.

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