July 2006 - Inkscape Devel - Inkscape Mailman

publicity materials for conferences, etc
by Jon Phillips 11 Jul '06

11 Jul '06

Hello all, I'm wondering what the procedure would be to get funding from our project savings for publicity materials we can all use for conferences, etc. I am hopeful to print up: 1.) brochure 2.) business cards 3.) stickers I would ideally like to get this done before Siggraph (www.siggraph.org) in early August. Myself and Andy Fitzsimon are both going to be at the first ever Open Souce Pavilion which is a large shared space for Open Source creative applications on the main show floor which will feature Blender, Gimp, Inkscape, Open Clip Art Library, Creative Commons and others. Also, I can get you all into the exhibition for free if anyone is interested (I am writing another email about this). What is the best procedure to go about seeking funds/reimbursements, and for making sure everyone can get access to these printed materials. I have some students from San Francisco Art Institute that will help me create them, which is cool. I'm thinking this for a procedure: 1.) make a wiki page proposing the publicity materials 2.) set a window of approximately 3 days for people to comment and get feedback on the proposal 3.) Get the materials printed if ok and do any other requests 4.) Provide a clear path for others to get materials for conference and distribution Does this sound like a good solution for this? Also, hopefully you all see the benefits in getting some things printed up like what I proposed. Jon -- Jon Phillips San Francisco, CA USA PH 510.499.0894 jon@...235... http://www.rejon.org MSN, AIM, Yahoo Chat: kidproto Jabber Chat: rejon@...896... IRC: rejon@...897... Inkscape (http://inkscape.org) Open Clip Art Library (www.openclipart.org) Creative Commons (www.creativecommons.org) San Francisco Art Institute (www.sfai.edu)

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Society
by Abortion outlawed 09 Jul '06

09 Jul '06

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Proposal: Merging Open Clipart Library into Inkscape
by Bryce Harrington 09 Jul '06

09 Jul '06

Hi all, This past year, the Open Clip Art Library has been both very successful, and very unsuccessful. From the standpoint of collecting clipart, it's been going like gang-busters, and currently has an incoming queue bursting with some very nice work. Unfortunately, it's also suffered from not having a sufficient development community behind it. By and large the project is simple: Just build a collection of clipart. However, the sheer quantity we gain poses its own set of technical challenges. There's also little issues like keyword translations, searching, detection of invalid SVG, etc. etc. On top of that, we've also been maintaining our own infrastruction (wiki, website, mailing list, accounts, etc.) The idea has been floated to merge OCAL back into Inkscape. OCAL was originally a spin-off from Inkscape, with the hope that we'd gain participation from other projects like OpenOffice, Sodipodi, KDE, etc. Unfortunately, that never really turned out, and it's mainly just been a few of us Inkscapers plus people not really associated with drawing program projects. Two other reasons why I think this proposal makes sense at this time: First, with Inkscape joining the Software Freedom Conservancy, it makes sense to bring OCAL under that umbrella as well. Second, with us looking at new hosting providers for Inkscape, it would be worthwhile to include provisions for OCAL, as well. OCAL will benefit from this merge in that it will consolidate the infrastructure administration into Inkscape, and will hopefully make it easier for Inkscape community members to work on clipart technology too. OCAL is in the process of bringing online a new tool called ccHost, which is a powerful tool for managing community-contributed media (it was originally designed for music, but it's in process of being adapted for handling clipart); Inkscape will benefit from having access to this tool as well - which could prove useful for managing community submitted screenshots, example files, tutorials, palettes, and other such things. Inkscape also gains by increasing the scope of its community, and of course gains the clipart library itself. Please let me know what you think of this proposal, assuming you've read this far. ;-) Bryce

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Proposal: Upgrading Gtk for Inkscape 0.45 (was Re: Gtk 2.8 for 0.45?)
by Martin Owens 08 Jul '06

08 Jul '06

It's certainly an interesting prospect, when I've looked at the open clip art libary I found it very uninviting from a developers point of view but quite inviting from an artists point of view. Although behaps Begal or Tenor will make the clipart more searchable and context heavy? Problems that I see: 1) Numberous Quality control failurers (or should that be none at all) 2) Duplicate listings 3) Not indexed by default 4) Problems with imbeded images and the curious way inkscape links instead of embeds. 5) Lack of developer transparency and direction. (leadership?) Best Regards, Martin Owens On Sat, 8 Jul 2006 14:58:16 -0700 , Bryce Harrington <bryce@...961...> wrote: >On Sat, Jul 08, 2006 at 12:06:21AM -0700, Jon A. Cruz wrote: >> >> On Jul 7, 2006, at 6:48 PM, MenTaLguY wrote: >> >> > On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 11:15 -0700, Bryce Harrington wrote: >> >> From the discussion, I gather that 2.6 *is* reasonably well >> >> supported on >> >> Mac. Thus, this suggests perhaps it would be wisest to do our 2.8 >> >> upgrade in two steps: >> >> >> >> 0.45 - Move our requirements to Gtk 2.6 >> >> Communicate our Gtk 2.8 ambitions to the Mac Gtk port >> >> maintainers. >> >> Encourage Inkscape Mac developers to experiment with 2.8 >> >> Around Sept, re-evaluate Gtk Mac 2.8 status >> >> >> >> 0.46 - Depending on evaluation, move to Gtk 2.8 >> > >> > I'm in favor of this proposal. >> > >> > -mental >> >> >> Sounds good to me too. > >Cool, if we can get a couple more people I think that'll be a sufficient >concensus. Does anyone have any concerns? > >It sounds like it will be helpful to have this plan in place, as it'll >define priorities for the port maintainers to focus on for the coming >months. > >> Oh, though I do want to point out that the move to 2.6 will give some >> pain on Linux for enterprise distros. So perhaps we'll end up with a >> few month's window where we keep maintaining 0.44.x a bit longer to >> cover base support, then get to move on come December. That way they >> get *something* supported, just not the latest new features. But then >> again, that's what you get with a corporate distro in general. :-) > >Yes, that's true. Does anyone know someone that works in the media app >maintenance area for SuSE or RedHat? It would be useful to hear their >feedback on how they plan to handle maintenance of inkscape in their >release, including what kinds of patches they would want (i.e. security >only? Bug fixes? Translations?) Anyone know SuSE / RedHat people they >could ask? > >Bryce > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? >Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier >Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo >http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 >_______________________________________________ >Inkscape-devel mailing list >Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel > > -- #::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::# #::.. http://www.doctormo.co.uk/ ..::# #::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::#

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] New web hosting? (Was Re: Wiki unusable)
by Joc 07 Jul '06

07 Jul '06

>As I'm sure everyone knows, hosting our website through SourceForge >kinda sucks since it's so dang slow. Particular pain points are wiki >and screenshots. SF is also continuing to prompt us about disk quota >limits. > >But the challenge to switching is that inkscape.org gobbles *tons* of >bandwidth - 130G last month! Back when we had some downloadable >packages from our website it jumped to nearly 400G. Why not using bittorrent? Torrent reduces the bandwidth on the host to almost nothing while allowing fast transfer of large files by sharing the transfer load among all the peers; those are features that are particularly useful when lots of people are downloading new releases. More info is available at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bittorrent Joc

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WEBFORM false positive
by Jens 07 Jul '06

07 Jul '06

Message from Inkscape submission form Please note, that the submitter may not read this list. CC your answer to the submitter name: Jens email: j.prasser@...1255... submitted the following: Hallo, der Fehlalarm im Installationspaket, konkret wurde sie \"uninst.exe\" als Trojan.Zlob gemeldet, tritt bei Symantec bzw. Norton nicht mehr auf. (The false positive \"Trojan.Zlob\" is fixed by Symantec) mfg Jens

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Gtk 2.8 for 0.45?
by Aaron Spike 06 Jul '06

06 Jul '06

Ben Fowler wrote: > On 06/07/06, Aaron Spike <aaron@...749...> wrote: >> Ben Fowler wrote: >> > I did have a Native GTK+ build of Inkscape around last November, but >> > threw it away when we switched to svn. Since then I have had hardware >> > problems and I am still in the process of re-creating it. I think that >> > the GTK code has improved in reliability over the last 8 months. I am >> > intending to continue with this, and will report any success that I do >> > have, but an energetic person could easily pip me to the post. >> >> That sounds like a lot of work. Would it be good to get that sort of >> work into SVN for others to build upon? Is this an incremental change >> thing that could be a compile flag in trunk? Or is it more suited to >> being worked on as a branch? > > I am not certain. You are right, and I am wrong; It is just that I > don't like making half-done stuff publically available. I haven't yet > resolved this in my own mind: I will freely admit that I prefer to > work quietly and modestly and post/commit code that works and is > correct, but I find it nice when others are really exuberant. Also. I > am still finding my feet with svn and workflow. I'm still learning versioning systems in general, let alone svn in specific. :-) I think that is a perfectly acceptable way to work. But because of the importance and difficulty of this specific project, I'd like to pressure you to publish your progress. Others could say better but Inkscape has had great success with projects that could be incrementally improved by different individuals when they had the energy and interest. This will allow the task to progress even during times when your energy for the project is waning. > Just to lift my skirts a little and show a shapely ankle, two things > that I think are needed are: > > 1. Add a --without-x-windows switch to configure.in for GUIs such as > native GTK which do not use X. > > and > > 2. Update those parts of the code where it assumes that GUI > applications that are not X Windows (exempli gratia, no DISPLAY > environment variable) are Microsoft. Perfect. Prioritized task lists are always a great help for getting volunteers. This really isn't a project I can assist with, so I'll just offer my encouragement. Aaron Spike

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ruler and cursor coordinate issues
by jtaber 06 Jul '06

06 Jul '06

In trying to trace over a raster and setting the scale to produce lat long coordinates, I've run across the following issues after setting x,y origins and spacing. I'm not sure which are user issues vs program issues. Either way it's not behaving as expected. 1) Assuming I set x origin as 19123 - X Ruler shows the origin as negative rather than a positive and then decreasing instead of increasing 2) Y Ruler behaves correctly assuming SVG standard of Y increasing down but it is often necessary (as in this case of lat,long) to behave as Y up. What about the idea of a user preference that allows Y up ? (sure it's not reflecting SVG but is definitely a user benefit) 3) Cursor coordinates reflect relative coordinates from the origin rather than matching the rulers - this is very confusing. If there is a good reason for the relative behavior, then how about if it is made a user preference? 4) The grid settings allow for x,y spacing but not sure if it is units/pixel or pixels per unit - can we add some text to the dialog to clarify this or at least to the user docs (see below) 5) There doesn't seem to be much documentation or user guides on this subject though a start is in Kevin Wixom's user guide - maybe this user guide should be in wiki form so users can directly input comments and user info (a la wikipedia) 6) At least in the Ubuntu version, there are no links from the help menu to the on-line user guide or wiki. I think there should be.

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Mentor mid-program evaluations due today
by Bryce Harrington 06 Jul '06

06 Jul '06

Bulia, Mental, Ted, and David, Today is the day the mentor evaluations are due. If you haven't already, please go to http://code.google.com/soc/mentor_home.html and fill it out (takes about 5-10 min). Also, please let me know once you've done this. If the evaluations are not filled out, the student will not be allowed to continue with the program. Thanks, Bryce

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