July 2006 - Inkscape Devel - Inkscape Mailman

Inkscape Board (was Re: Joining the Software Freedom Conservancy)
by Joshua Blocher 14 Jul '06

14 Jul '06

Just a few quick notes on what I think. Simple majority: We need to make sure we agree on the definition of this. Especially how to handle abstains. Are they counted for or against or not counted at all. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_majority defines most of this and I think it is the definition we should use. I think there should be a seperate mailing list for votes i.e. inkscape-vote. That way votes don't get lost in the daily mails on the dev list. It also allows the record/process to be transparent to anyone wishing to see it. Board Members should be on a 1yr/2yrs cycle. "Half" of the board should start with 1 yr terms and other "half" 2yr terms. At the end of the term the the board can call for a vote of confidence and by simple majority vote be extended into the next part of the cycle. i.e. if Ricky James is at the end of his 1yr term and the majority vote succeeds he moves on to a 2yr term or if it is a 2yr term onto a 1 year term. The voting period and procedure must be announced at least 7 days prior to the voting deadline . Thanks, Joshua L. Blocher verbalshadow

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] [Inkscape-cvs] SF.net SVN Commit: inkscape: [12665] Previously graph layout was done using the Kamada-Kawai layout algorithm
by Ralf Stephan 14 Jul '06

14 Jul '06

You wrote > Another big advantage is that we no longer need Boost. Very good. At this very moment, I was about to submit a revamped boost detection for configure, which was mistakenly ack'ing versions below 1.33. I will do this now for stable only. Meaning: connector layout requirement in 0.44.1 is >=boost-1.33. Comments? ralf

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Fwd: ill2svg.pl replacement
by Ted Gould 14 Jul '06

14 Jul '06

On Wed, 2006-07-12 at 10:00 +0300, Tuukka Pasanen wrote: > > On Tue, 2006-07-11 at 15:29 -0700, Jon Phillips wrote: > >> On Tue, 2006-07-11 at 12:43 -0500, Ted Gould wrote: > >> > On Mon, 10 Jul 2006, Jon Phillips wrote: > >> > > Heya, don't forget all the AI files I uploaded for testing any AI > >> > > things: > >> > > > >> > > http://rejon.org/projects/inkscape/sample/illustrator_samples > >> > > >> > Cool. Can I put these in the test files repository? > >> > > >> > https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/inkscape/inkscape_testfiles/ > >> > >> Totally. After you've done, tell me and I'll remove them from my site. > > > > Done. If anyone else has test files for Inkscape. Formats or other > > things, throw them in that repository. That way we don't loose them :) > > Nice Idea but there should be preview pixel image of each file. One could > look image to check is file looking correct? That sounds like a good idea. Does Illustrator have some sort of batch export that we can do to all the AI files? Can someone with Illustrator do that? --Ted

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SourceForge outage today
by Bryce Harrington 13 Jul '06

13 Jul '06

If you use SourceForge services, you may have noticed problems using SVN/CVS. SourceForge posted this message to their Status Page: ( 2006-07-13 09:23:52 - Project CVS Service, Project Shell Service, Project Subversion (SVN) Service, SourceForge.net Web Site ) A recent kernel exploit was released that allowed a non admin user to escalate privileges on the host pr-shell1. We urge all users who frequent this host to change their password immediately and check their project group space for any tampering. As a precaution, we have blocked access to all project resources by password until the user resets their password. After the password has been reset, project resources should be accessible within 5 minutes. http://sourceforge.net/docs/A04 Basically, to regain CVS/SVN/etc. access, you must change your password. This can be done here: http://sourceforge.net/account/change_pw.php After this, you will be prompted for your password once more when committing, then it'll work normally. Bryce

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SF.net dev accounts
by Bob Jamison 13 Jul '06

13 Jul '06

Apparently sf.net found some kind of potential security problem, so they want users of shell and Svn services to reset their passwords before committing again. Here is the status : http://sourceforge.net/docs/A04 bob

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ChangeLog
by Alexandre Prokoudine 13 Jul '06

13 Jul '06

Hi, Just for my curiousity: what has happened to updating ChangeLog? It's been more that 200 commits to SVN since 0.44 and only several changes are reflected, no changes in ReleaseNotes as well. Maybe it's just my schizophrenia of course :) Alexandre

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Gtk 2.8 for 0.45?
by Bryce Harrington 13 Jul '06

13 Jul '06

Up through 0.44 we've stuck to the Gtk 2.4 requirement, in order to minimize dependency problems for users. When we jumped from Gtk 2.0 to 2.4, a lot of users had installation troubles that we had to spend a lot of time helping with, so we wished to avoid that as long as possible. Yet 2.8 has been out a while, and has some new capabilities that would be nice to rely on. 2.8 would be more compelling of a change than 2.6, so if we have to put people through the trouble of upgrading gtk, it might be better to move them to 2.8. I'd like to propose that we change the dependency requirements for Inkscape to 2.8. Doing this right now gives us a maximum amount of testing time before 0.45. Would anyone see an issue with doing this in this next release? Bryce

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Proposal: Merging Open Clipart Library into Inkscape
by Spyros Blanas 13 Jul '06

13 Jul '06

I haven't fully understood what you mean when you say 'merge OCAL in Inkscape'. If you mean simply to provide a bundled clipart library with inkscape (like most drawing programs have) I agree completely to that. If this is the case, we could also easily create a new tool which will show a preview of all the cliparts and will insert a selected one into the current drawing. Such tool would make Inkscape easier to use for diagram drawing, for example. However, it is clear that when you say merging you also refer to OCAL infrastructure (like ccHost). Did you actually mean that the Inkscape team will take responsibility for OCAL and host it as well? - Spyros Blanas Bryce Harrington wrote: > Hi all, > > This past year, the Open Clip Art Library has been both very successful, > and very unsuccessful. From the standpoint of collecting clipart, it's > been going like gang-busters, and currently has an incoming queue > bursting with some very nice work. > > Unfortunately, it's also suffered from not having a sufficient > development community behind it. By and large the project is simple: > Just build a collection of clipart. However, the sheer quantity we gain > poses its own set of technical challenges. There's also little issues > like keyword translations, searching, detection of invalid SVG, > etc. etc. On top of that, we've also been maintaining our own > infrastruction (wiki, website, mailing list, accounts, etc.) > > The idea has been floated to merge OCAL back into Inkscape. OCAL was > originally a spin-off from Inkscape, with the hope that we'd gain > participation from other projects like OpenOffice, Sodipodi, KDE, etc. > Unfortunately, that never really turned out, and it's mainly just been a > few of us Inkscapers plus people not really associated with drawing > program projects. > > Two other reasons why I think this proposal makes sense at this time: > First, with Inkscape joining the Software Freedom Conservancy, it makes > sense to bring OCAL under that umbrella as well. Second, with us > looking at new hosting providers for Inkscape, it would be worthwhile to > include provisions for OCAL, as well. > > OCAL will benefit from this merge in that it will consolidate the > infrastructure administration into Inkscape, and will hopefully make it > easier for Inkscape community members to work on clipart technology > too. OCAL is in the process of bringing online a new tool called > ccHost, which is a powerful tool for managing community-contributed > media (it was originally designed for music, but it's in process of > being adapted for handling clipart); Inkscape will benefit from having > access to this tool as well - which could prove useful for managing > community submitted screenshots, example files, tutorials, palettes, and > other such things. Inkscape also gains by increasing the scope of its > community, and of course gains the clipart library itself. > > Please let me know what you think of this proposal, assuming you've read > this far. ;-) > > Bryce >

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[Fwd: Participate in UIUC open source software study]
by MenTaLguY 13 Jul '06

13 Jul '06

Anyone get this and/or interested? -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: Eric Gilbert <egilber2@...1404...> To: mental@...58... Subject: Participate in UIUC open source software study Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 10:06:48 -0500 Hi MenTaLguY, I am a UIUC grad student running a study on collaborative software development. I need important developers to help me evaluate my visualization tool, CodeSaw. I thought you might be interested or know someone on your project you could refer to me. I included the original recruitment message below. Thanks very much for your time. Cheers, Eric ----original message------ I am a Computer Science graduate student at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. I need your help in a study I want to conduct. I have created a project called LifeSource that visualizes CVS repositories. You can find screenshots and info here: http://social.cs.uiuc.edu/people/gilbert (info on me) http://social.cs.uiuc.edu/people/gilbert/research.html (info on LifeSource, the CVS project) LifeSource appeared as a Work-in-Progress paper at ACM's CHI 2006 in Montreal (http://www.chi2006.org). I applied LifeSource to the Azureus and Gaim CVS repositories. I would like to apply the same visualization to your project. Next, I want to see if you as the visualized community find it accurate, helpful, disturbing, etc. In order to participate in the study, you will need to view the LifeSource visualization once a week (on the web) for four weeks and respond to two short online surveys. You will receive a $20 gift certificate for your participation. I can fully explain the process in the near future - just email me back. I will provide all of the information of the methodology of the study online. (We can set up a blog for study members to leave further comments.) Please let me know what you think. I plan on using the study in a long paper to CHI 2007.

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deptool.exe
by Daniel Díaz 12 Jul '06

12 Jul '06

Hello there! It looks like the autobuilds on my server have been breaking since June 18th because of this: cp config.h.mingw config.h cd src && i686-pc-mingw32-g++ -g -Wall -o deptool.exe deptool.cpp cd src && deptool.exe /bin/sh: deptool.exe: command not found make: *** [src/make.dep] Error 127 Maybe I wasn't paying too close attention to the list and missed a configuration thing, or a new library bundle. Or maybe something else, because my server is kind of reluctant to run that deptool.exe executable. In any case, what do I need to get the builds to be built again? Greetings! Daniel Díaz ddiaz@...1105...

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