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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Getting the GdkWindow in which a verbwas invoked
by joel＠...1709... 26 Jun '07

26 Jun '07

Hey... I'm glad a couple of people agree with me, so I'm not going crazy. I think trying to embed GTK in Windows native in GTK seems like a very hard, risky, and potentially ugly way of solving the problem. I'm much more in favour of implementing an shell thumbnail extension to achieve our goal, mainly because it would be a more Windowsy solution, and would result in less hassle. This would solve the SVG preview problem for XP and Vista users, in Inkscape, and allow them to thumbnail across the whole system, which could be a significant selling point! Looking at the thumbnail API it all depends really in how hard it is to render an arbitrary SVG file into an arbitrary HDC/HBITMAP. ---------------------------------------- From: MenTaLguY <mental@...3...> Sent: 26 June 2007 10:48 To: Gail Banaszkiewicz <gbanaszk@...1686...> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Getting the GdkWindow in which a verbwas invoked On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 13:01:49 -0400, Gail Banaszkiewicz wrote: > Dang I hate those stupid open windows in Inkscape - I would personally > be happy to have the option to use the Windows dialogs! With previews, > of course ;) While I'm not a frequent user of Inkscape on Windows, I've had to do so occasionally for work; I think I'd also prefer a native file dialog (though I'd miss the Gtk dialog's bookmarks a little bit). Previews are another issue, though -- before we could implement them in the native dialog, we'd need to determine how to embed a Gtk widget in a Win32 window. If we can get that part sorted out, then the usual dialog customization approach should work: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms646960.aspx#_win32_Explorer_Styl… (Win32 programming is one of the few things that makes me miss working with Gtk...) -mental ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Getting the GdkWindow in which averbwas invoked
by joel＠...1709... 26 Jun '07

26 Jun '07

That's my suggestion ---------------------------------------- From: MenTaLguY <mental@...3...> Sent: 26 June 2007 11:37 To: Tobias Jakobs <tobias.jakobs@...128...> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Getting the GdkWindow in which averbwas invoked On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 20:34:55 +0200, Tobias Jakobs wrote: >> This is probably a naive question, but if the files are just SVG, it >> seems that the native Windows preview mechanism would be able to display >> them. But I could be wrong :) > > No, there is no SVG-Preview in Windows. I think what she and Joel are getting at is that on Vista (and XP?), it should be possible for us to provide it. -mental ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Getting the GdkWindow in which a verbwas invoked
by joel＠...1709... 26 Jun '07

26 Jun '07

New fangled - yes. But IExtractImage has been in since XP for thumbnails. ---------------------------------------- From: MenTaLguY <mental@...3...> Sent: 26 June 2007 11:34 To: Gail Banaszkiewicz <gbanaszk@...1686...> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Getting the GdkWindow in which a verbwas invoked On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 14:11:15 -0400, Gail Banaszkiewicz wrote: > I was thinking pretty much what Joel was talking about in a subsequent > email. Ahh, yeah. IPreviewHandler. All these new-fangled Vista things... :) -mental ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Getting the GdkWindow in which a verb wasinvoked
by joel＠...1709... 26 Jun '07

26 Jun '07

I would say that it definitely is worth the effort, because attention to detail *really* matters. You just need a willing volunteer - which is probably me! Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Getting the GdkWindow in which a verb wasinvoked On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 15:26:24 -0300, "bulia byak" wrote: > Easy access to the examples folder is also a very important selling > point, especially for newbies. As it is now, I'm sure many users don't > even suspect that we have such a folder. It is possible in principle to customize the Win32 places bar, though there's still the question of whether it's worth the effort: http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/03/03/CuttingEdge/ -mental

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Getting the GdkWindow in which a verb was invoked
by joel＠...1709... 26 Jun '07

26 Jun '07

That's a good tip. I agreee with you also that we need to do better with the parenting. The problem extends well beyond the file dialogs. I had just assumed that because Gnome works differently, it wasn't such an obvious problem for Linux users. ---------------------------------------- From: Ted Gould <ted@...11...> Sent: 26 June 2007 11:17 To: bulia byak <buliabyak@...400...> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Getting the GdkWindow in which a verb was invoked On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 13:07 -0300, bulia byak wrote: > > In the GTK version, sp_file_open_dialog (in file.cpp) is called from inside > > FileVerb::Perform in verbs.cpp. But how is it possible to get the GdkWindow > > object of the windows in which the verb was invoked? > > You can do SP_ACTIVE_DESKTOP, then use getToplevel to get GTK window, > and then use ->window to get from GTK to GDK (untested!) I don't think this is good, I'd like to see SP_ACTIVE_DESKTOP all but removed from the codebase. When the verb is called it is passed the information on the window that called it. That's currently not passed into sp_file_open_dialog, but should be. (infact, very few verbs use it, but they should). The desktop can be gotten in any verb "perform" function with the following code: SPDesktop *dt = dynamic_cast(sp_action_get_view(action)); That is, if it is called on a SPDesktop and not another subclass of an action. But I would imagine that FileOpen always is. --Ted

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Getting the GdkWindow in which a verbwas invoked
by joel＠...1709... 26 Jun '07

26 Jun '07

Hey... I'm glad a couple of people agree with me, so I'm not going crazy. I think trying to embed GTK in Windows native in GTK seems like a very hard, risky, and potentially ugly way of solving the problem. I'm much more in favour of implementing an shell thumbnail extension to achieve our goal, mainly because it would be a more Windowsy solution, and would result in less hassle. This would solve the SVG preview problem for XP and Vista users, in Inkscape, and allow them to thumbnail across the whole system, which could be a significant selling point! Looking at the thumbnail API it all depends really in how hard it is to render an arbitrary SVG file into an arbitrary HDC/HBITMAP. ---------------------------------------- From: MenTaLguY <mental@...3...> Sent: 26 June 2007 10:48 To: Gail Banaszkiewicz <gbanaszk@...1686...> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Getting the GdkWindow in which a verbwas invoked On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 13:01:49 -0400, Gail Banaszkiewicz wrote: > Dang I hate those stupid open windows in Inkscape - I would personally > be happy to have the option to use the Windows dialogs! With previews, > of course ;) While I'm not a frequent user of Inkscape on Windows, I've had to do so occasionally for work; I think I'd also prefer a native file dialog (though I'd miss the Gtk dialog's bookmarks a little bit). Previews are another issue, though -- before we could implement them in the native dialog, we'd need to determine how to embed a Gtk widget in a Win32 window. If we can get that part sorted out, then the usual dialog customization approach should work: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms646960.aspx#_win32_Explorer_Styl… (Win32 programming is one of the few things that makes me miss working with Gtk...) -mental ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel

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Closing #1739862
by Joel Holdsworth 26 Jun '07

26 Jun '07

How can I close feature request #1739862 now that I've added the requested feature?

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ellipse to bez constant
by Bill Baxter 26 Jun '07

26 Jun '07

Is there any reason why sp-ellipse.cpp uses .552 as the ellipse-to-bezier constant rather than something with a few more digits: 0.55228474983079356 I know it probably makes little visual difference, but why not use the exact number if you have it? I certainly wouldn't use 3.14 for PI. So why use .552 when you mean 4*(sqrt(2)-1)/3? --bb

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Compilation fails when using --with-python flag
by Vladimir Savic 25 Jun '07

25 Jun '07

Configure doesn't complains, but still inkscape building fail although I have python installed. Two versions exactly: 2.4.4 and 2.3.5. This is the error message: if g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/CORE -I/usr/include/python2.4 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -pthread -DORBIT2=1 -I/usr/include/gnome-vfs-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/include -I/usr/include/gconf/2 -I/usr/include/orbit-2.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -DRELAYTOOL_CRYPTO='static const int libcrypto_is_present = 1; static int __attribute__((unused)) libcrypto_symbol_is_present(char *m) { return 1; }' -DRELAYTOOL_SSL='static const int libssl_is_present = 1; static int __attribute__((unused)) libssl_symbol_is_present(char *m) { return 1; }' -DHAVE_SSL -I/usr/include/freetype2 -DPNG_NO_MMX_CODE -I/usr/include/gtk-unix-print-2.0 -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/libpng12 -DPOTRACE=\"potrace\" -DPNG_NO_MMX_CODE -pthread -I/usr/include/gdkmm-2.4 -I/usr/lib/gdkmm-2.4/include -I/usr/include/glibmm-2.4 -I/usr/lib/glibmm-2.4/include -I/usr/include/pangomm-1.4 -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/sigc++-2.0 -I/usr/lib/sigc++-2.0/include -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/libpng12 -I/usr/include/gtkmm-2.4 -I/usr/lib/gtkmm-2.4/include -I/usr/include/atkmm-1.6 -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/libxml2 -I/usr/include/gtkspell-2.0 -I../cxxtest -Wall -Wformat-security -W -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Wsign-compare -Woverloaded-virtual -Wswitch -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -Wno-unused-parameter -g -O2 -MT extension/script/InkscapePython.o -MD -MP -MF "extension/script/.deps/InkscapePython.Tpo" \ -c -o extension/script/InkscapePython.o `test -f 'extension/script/InkscapePython.cpp' || echo './'`extension/script/InkscapePython.cpp; \ then mv -f "extension/script/.deps/InkscapePython.Tpo" "extension/script/.deps/InkscapePython.Po"; \ else rm -f "extension/script/.deps/InkscapePython.Tpo"; exit 1; \ fi extension/script/InkscapePython.cpp: In member function 'virtual bool Inkscape::Extension::Script::InkscapePython::interpretScript(const Glib::ustring&, Glib::ustring&, Glib::ustring&)': extension/script/InkscapePython.cpp:466: warning: unused variable 'line' make[2]: *** No rule to make target `extension/script/cxx/cxxextensions.c', needed by `extension/script/cxx/cxxextensions.o'. Stop. make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/vlada/inkscape/src' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/vlada/inkscape' make: *** [all] Error 2 localhost inkscape #

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website, take two :)
by Alexandre Prokoudine 25 Jun '07

25 Jun '07

Hi, Back in March I sent a mail [1] on changes on inkscape.org that probably should take place. Here is the updated list of proposed changes. 1. "Documentation" section: 1.1. "Translation" subsection should be a link to http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Translation_information 1.2. "Publications (Overviews)" subsection should be a link to http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/ArticlesAndPresentations 1.3. "Example SVG Files" subsection should be removed 1.4. "Tutorials" subsection should be renamed to "Official tutorials" 1.5. New "Contributed tutorials" subsection should appear and contain links to http://inkscapetutorials.wordpress.com/ and http://www.inkscapetutorials.com/ These new sites already list all available tutorials, so there is no need in a wiki page. 2. "Showcase" page should be removed and become a link to http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Galleries. The Galleries wiki page should be reorganized (more on this later) 3. "Status" page should be either removed completely or be updated automatically (November 15, 2005 doesn't sound like the project is alive :)) 4. "Discussion" section should have a new "International communities" subsection and contain links to: http://www.inkscapeforum.com/ (English) http://www.inkscape-forum.de (German) http://www.open-draw-community.de (German) http://twiki.softwarelivre.org/bin/view/InkscapeBrasil/WebHome (Brazil) http://www.linuxgraphic.org (French) http://www.linuxgraphics.ru (Russian) If you know other local communities, please add them to the list In an unbelievable case eveyone agrees :) would anyone volunteer to do this? [1] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.graphics.inkscape.devel/19960 Alexandre

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