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NEW: palettes
by bulia byak 24 May '06

24 May '06

(inspired by the recent palette improvements and with the help of Aaron Spike) * The new "Inkscape default" color palette was added. It contains a range of grays, standard HTML named colors, and a full range of colors sorted by their HSL values (475 colors overall). It is generated by a Python script which is also put into SVN in share/palettes. * A number of specialized color palettes, useful in color-coordinated projects, was borrowed from GIMP: Reds, Greens, Blues, Gold, Royal, Khaki, Hilite, and Topographic. -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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The horizontal scrollbar does not disappear in the newest swatch
by Khiraly 24 May '06

24 May '06

Hi! Just a minor remark about the new swatch dialog. If I set it to the size 'tiny', and switch to a palette like tango, where there not realy much colors, the horizontal scrollbar does not disappear, and the palette is scaled horizontally to fit all the space. I think the right behaviour would be: * no scrollbar, if not required * no horizontal scaling (the palette) Here is a demonstating screenshot, with a palette, which has only 3 colors: http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/2708/swatchnotscale2pb.png Khiraly

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Release Wardens for Inkscape 0.44
by Bryce Harrington 24 May '06

24 May '06

Follow up to the Feature Freeze announcement... For this release, Jon Cruz and Aaron Spike have accepted the roles of Release Wardens. Once we get to Hard Freeze, they will have the responsibility for determining what bug fixes will be included in releases, and which will be deferred to future releases. Thanks Jon and Aaron! Bryce

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Feature Freeze for Inkscape 0.44
by Bryce Harrington 24 May '06

24 May '06

Hi all, This is to announce that we are now officially moving into Feature Freeze. At this time, feature development work on HEAD should cease, in favor of bug fixing work. Any bug fixing work is welcomed. I will be maintaining a list of must-fix bugs, which I will publish within the next day. If you'd like to continue feature development work, you're encouraged to do so on an SVN branch. (If you don't know how to create a branch in SVN, just ask!) ACSpike will publish a -pre0 release ASAP. We will encourage all users to help us test out pre-releases and report issues found. Thank you to all who have been helping Aaron sort out distcheck issues! I would also like to take this chance to thank lucychili for her work at triaging our bug list. There are still some bugs left to be ranked, but due to her work we're close to having them fully ranked. Bryce

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Resize handle on bottom-right of Inkscape window missing
by Michael Wybrow 24 May '06

24 May '06

In recent SVN builds, i.e., the last week or so, the resize handle that was on the far right of the status bar has disappeared. The reason it was added to Inkscpae was that on OSX, every resizable window has a small handle in this position that is above any widgets in the window itself -- meaning the statusbar zoom controls could not be clicked on OSX. It was decided (previously on the mailing list) that we would put our own resize handle here, which shifted the zoom control slightly to the left. I looked at recent commits, but couldn't find where this happened or the relevant code that needs changing. Could someone please add the resize handle back and document in the code the reason for it being there. Thanks, Michael

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default shape style
by bulia byak 24 May '06

24 May '06

In the early days of Inkscape, njh changed the default style of shape tools to include fill-opacity:0.75. The motivation was "to make default shapes more interesting" and "to demonstrate that Inkscape can do opacity". Now, with a master opacity control in the statusbar, the second reason is much less relevant. Besides, we slightly discourage using fill-opacity and stroke-opacity in general, because they are somewhat more cumbersome to change - you can only do it in fill&stroke dialog. For these reasons, I have removed fill-opacity from the default style of the shape tools. -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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another change in defaults
by bulia byak 24 May '06

24 May '06

With all the recent improvements, the Calligraphic tool is becoming much more than just a calligraphic tool - it's now more of a general purpose paint tool. So I changed this tool to use the last set style by default, instead of the fixed black. This means that in a newly installed copy of Inkscape it will paint black, but as soon as you change the fill of anything it will use that new color. I think it makes it more usable for newbies. -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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New: Inkscape Stable Branch plans
by Bryce Harrington 23 May '06

23 May '06

Hi all, For the 0.44 release, we will be establishing a stable branch maintenance team, to release 0.44.1, .2, etc. as the 0.45 development proceeds. This is a somewhat different process than we've followed in the past, because while we've done point releases in the past to correct packaging or security flaws, or major bugs, we generally have not treated them as formally maintained branches before. The motivation for doing this is primarily driven by the vast number of new features in this release. It's almost guaranteed that there are hidden defects that we're not likely to find until well after release. Rather than have a very lengthy hard freeze period to find these, as last time, this new process will enable active development and stabilization to be done in parallel. In speaking with Mental and Bulia and some of the other developers, we feel it wise to establish the infrastructure and procedures that will allow us to actively backport fixes for these issues as they're found, so that users won't be forced to wait until 0.45 is released. There is nothing particularly exotic about doing this; many other large projects have split devel/stable branches, and the techniques and best practices are well known and well established: 1. When fixing a critical bug that may need to be backported, make SURE there is a ticket in the bug tracker (create a new one if needed). 2. Create a patch for the bug fix. Do not include any changes other than the fix. Keep the patch as terse as possible (no formatting changes or other cleanup.) Attach the patch to the bug ticket. 3. Notify inkscape-devel@ about the fix, and recommend that it be considered for the Stable Branch. If defect is a potential security issue, please contact the stable maintainer privately. 4. New stable releases with a detailed listing of changes will be produced periodically. It will be recommended that all users upgrade to these releases as soon as possible. We will also establish a Stable Branch Maintenance Team once 0.44 has been released. This team will have the responsibility to keep an eye out for fixes to critical bugs, integrate them into the stable branch, and perform the releases. Mentalguy has been the de factor stable branch maintainer for all of our past releases, and has agreed to be the team lead for the Inkscape 0.44 Stable Branch series. If you would like to be a member of the Stable Branch Maintenance Team, please speak with Mental. I am sure he can make particularly good use of folks with packaging or QA expertise. Of course, we can't say for certain how many stable releases there will be in the 0.44.x series, but I'm anticipating new releases could appear as frequently as every week or two. It will depend largely on how many critical bugs there are, and how many people will be available to handle them. Bryce

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Inkscape and Zero Install
by Thomas Leonard 23 May '06

23 May '06

Hi all, I'm Thomas Leonard, one of the main developers of the ROX desktop[1]. I'd like to make Inkscape the default vector drawing application for ROX. We provide a "ROX-All" package[2] with launchers for a number of programs. Each launcher automatically downloads the program the first time it is run, using Zero Install[3]. Zero Install is also used to fetch any required libraries and to check for updates, etc. I made a launcher for Tgif without any trouble[4], but Inkscape is proving more difficult. The binary RPM on your site seems to use hard-coded paths to get the icons. I looked at the source code to see about fixing it, and I notice that you're already using autopackage's excellent binreloc tool. But, it appears that the RPM was compiled with this turned off! I tried replacing the bin/inkscape file in the RPM with the one from the autopackage and it then worked fine. However, Zero Install can't extract from autopackages because they are implemented as 'executable archives' - extracting them requires running code inside them. This is OK for a program installed on a single-user machine, but Zero Install needs to support multi-user systems where the admin must be able to install a package without having to execute any of its code. [ Aside: The goal of Zero Install is to make installing software system-wide so 'safe' (for the admin) that the admin can actually be replaced by a SetUID script, letting users share software installs automatically without needing an admin and without requiring them to trust each other. This combines ease-of-use and security, rather than trading them off against each other as in most other systems. ] Would it be possible for you to build your binary RPMs with binreloc enabled, so that we can use them? Or, if you could host the "payload.tar.bz2" file from inside the autopackage then that would work too. Actually making Inkscape available is then extremely easy - I'll just create a short XML file giving the available versions, download locations and dependencies, as with the current Tgif XML file[4]. These XML files can be used by ROX (and Xfce) users by simply dragging the link from a web-page to the desktop's installer. They can also be run from the command-line using the '0launch' or '0alias' commands. Thanks, [1] http://rox.sourceforge.net [2] http://rox.sourceforge.net/desktop/ROX-All [3] http://0install.net/ [4] http://0install.net/tests/Tgif.xml -- Dr Thomas Leonard http://rox.sourceforge.net GPG: 9242 9807 C985 3C07 44A6 8B9A AE07 8280 59A5 3CC1

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Panel refactoring
by Jon A. Cruz 23 May '06

23 May '06

I just committed a bit of a larger change with much panel rework. The main visible changes are with the palettes. In the swatches dialog it will now remember the last palette selected and restore that on startup. In the docked palette at the bottom of the UI it will separately remember the palette used there (not quite per- document yet). The docked palette will also now shrink when it's "Wrap" menu item is unchecked. It respects the selected size, and places only a single row. In hand with this and the remembering the last palette, someone can probably now change the default preferences to use a small size, turn off wrap, and select the "SVG" palette. Then have the palette shown in the UI by default.

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configure.ac and PKG_CHECK_MODULES (was Re: [Inkscape-devel] distcheck)
by Ben Fowler 23 May '06

23 May '06

On 23/05/06, Ben Fowler <ben.the.mole@...400...> wrote: > On 22/05/06, Aaron Spike <aaron@...749...> wrote: > [ snip ] > > ..., I am working on the basis that you run two > calls to PKG_CHECK_MODULES (instead of picking one). > > Does the second one over-write the results of the first one? > > Does your ./configure really do what you want? For the avoidance of doubt, I am not saying that it is wrong to have two calls to PKG_CHECK_MODULES, and one reason to do this is mentioned here: http://www.openismus.com/documents/linux/using_libraries/using_libraries.sh… Ben

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distcheck
by Aaron Spike 23 May '06

23 May '06

In preparation for the upcoming release, I thought I'd try `make distcheck`. $ make -k distcheck make[1]: *** No rule to make target `make.dep', needed by `distdir'. make[1]: *** No rule to make target `make.files', needed by `distdir'. make[1]: *** No rule to make target `make.ofiles', needed by `distdir'. make[1]: Target `distdir' not remade because of errors. make: *** [distdir] Error 1 make: Target `distcheck' not remade because of errors. I know the solution for this first problem is to run mkfiles.pl and mkdep.pl, but I wonder if those scripts should be thrown into the autogen.sh or configure mix somehow. After I generate those files `make distcheck` produces the errors that can be found at: http://www.ekips.org/comp/inkscape/inx/distcheck/stderr.txt Aaron Spike

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] transparency pdf export
by Martin Owens 22 May '06

22 May '06

All you do is remove the features and downgrade the version, that wouldn't help you because you'd be left with grey or unpainted items in the pdf. On Mon, 22 May 2006 02:54:06 +0200 , Peter Dedecker <Peter.Dedecker@...1292...> wrote: >bulia byak wrote: >> I think that it's much easier and better from all possible viewpoints >> to fix ghostscript/evince/whatever to fully support standard PDF than >> design hideous workarounds for this in Inkscape. > >Off course Evince should support the latest PDF version, but I think it >might be good if Inkscape should also support the previous one without >transparency to maintain compatibility with lots of applications and >printer drivers. But it shouldn't be on a high priority, I think. > >-- >Peter Dedecker Peter.Dedecker@...1292... >Studentenvertegenwoordiger Isabellakaai 124 - 9000 Gent > GSM: 0486/15.23.20 > > >------------------------------------------------------- >Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? >Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier >Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo >http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 >_______________________________________________ >Inkscape-devel mailing list >Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel > > -- #::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::# #::.. http://www.doctormo.co.uk/ ..::# #::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::#

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some questions about sf.net's RFE and bugtracker (statistical data)
by Khiraly 22 May '06

22 May '06

Hi! How can I obtain some statistical about bugreports and RFEs ? Im thinking of: * how many open bugreports/RFEs are at the moment * how many bugreports/RFEs was closed from a given date (ex: from the latest release) * how many bugreports/RFEs need info, etc Is sf.net is able provide me some of the aboves info? Khiraly

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transparency pdf export
by Peter Dedecker 22 May '06

22 May '06

Hi, I just checked out the snapshot release of Inkscape 0.44, wich is just great, thank you very much! I really love the new pdf export with transparency support and the "crop to image size" button in the page properties. But I also have a little question. Printing such pdf files with transparency isn't simple and transparency is removed. I think there should be two types of pdf export functionality. One of them is the one that's now included, the other one should be a mix between bitmap output and scalable pdf output. I mean: it should be great when you could let Inkscape "render" the image and count the resulting colors when the different semi-transparent layers are added to eachother. The result should be scalable but without transparency. This way, the image printed is the same as how you could see it at the screen. This could also be related to bug 1492670. Acrobat prints files with transparency the right way, Evince doesn't. I think it should be good when it's possible to export to different pdf-versions, with and without transparency. What do you think of this? After some positive feedback from Bryce, I submitted this one as feature request 1492661. Kind regards, Peter Dedecker

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Effects (aka extensions)
by Tavmjong Bah 21 May '06

21 May '06

Hi, I've been working through the extensions in updating my book and have the following comments: 1. The release notes uses "Extensions" while the menu label in the GUI is "Effects". 2. Extract one image: Dialog is confusing. It asks for "Path to save image". I initially though that it would get the file name out of the SVG file (maybe from the id name). The dialog would be more clear if it said "Filename (with path) to save image". (Aaron points out that it would be even better if it used a file chooser dialog.) 3. Envelope: Generates warnings of the type: "Format autodetect failed. The file is being opened as SVG." Otherwise the effect works. 4. Flatten Bezier: "Flatten Path" is the name used in the release notes. 5. Radius Randomize: Minor quibble: The "normal distribution" generated isn't really a normal distribution (as you would find in the error of measuring the position of a point). The x and y coordinates should be uncorrelated and thus one should write: x += abs(random.normalvariate(0.0,0.5*r) y += abs(random.normalvariate(0.0,0.5*r) 6. Latex Formula: pstoedit must be installed with the SVG plug-in. The plug-in is shareware and only available for Windows and Suse Linux 9.3 using g++ 3.4.5. (See: http://www.pstoedit.net/pstoedit.) 7. Fretboard Designer: These effects should really be grouped in a submenu under Render. 8. Effects menus: The new organization of the Effects in submenus is great improvement! I think I would have approached the problem of implementation differently. Rather than embed menu structure inside the effects, it might of been more interesting to extract the menu structure from a directory structure, obtaining the names of the menus and of the effects from the names of the directories and the inx files respectively. For example, the Fretboard effects would be place in a directory named Fretboard_Designer inside a directory named Render. The first Fretboard effect would have an inx file with the name: Single_Length_Equal_Temperament. If would then be easy for a user to add their own effects or to move them around. Of course, one would still have to come up with a method to handle translations. The code could be reused to organize the Templates menu. Tav

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tablet bugs
by bulia byak 21 May '06

21 May '06

I think I fixed now the various bugs reported by Mental and others about the use of tablet pen in various tools: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1455685&group_id=9… (and probably other reports too). Turns out "it's not a bug, it's a feature". This affected everything that dragged knots plus the rect tool; this also probably affected guideline dragging but nobody noticed that. The reason is that only knot.cpp, rect-context.cpp and the ruler/guideline code grabbed canvas with a mask that included GDK_POINTER_MOTION_HINT_MASK. And this mask, per documentation, is exactly for this: it passes only the first motion event and suppresses all others, until you call gdk_window_get_pointer. Only ruler code cared to call; there's also a call in canvas motion event handler but it seems to have no effect. Now, I have no time nor desire to figure out why this worked before (the hint mask was there since Sodipodi times), or why it broke with newer GTK versions, or why it broke only for tablet pens and not mice. Someone who likes GTK more than me might enjoy the exercise :) For now I simply removed the hint masks wherever I could find them, and everything seems to work fine for me (though for me it always worked fine, because I have a rather old gtk) and for a person on IRC who had troubles with pen before. Of course this change is somewhat risky, so please test all tools and all kinds of dragging thoroughly. Let me know at once if you find something broken. -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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Inkboard in 0.44
by Ted Gould 21 May '06

21 May '06

Okay, So, I know that everyone is excited about the growing maturity of the Inkboard code, but I'm going to suggest that it not be included by default in the 0.44 release. Why? I think that with David reworking the protocol, and the potential for a SoC project to help with that, it's likely that there will be some protocol changes between 0.44 and 0.45. I don't think we really want to support the 0.44 protocol forever (if nothing else, it won't be as well documented), so I think we should leave it for people who are actually on the mailing list and update their Inkscape binaries regularly. Thoughts? --Ted

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SWF Export - Supporting static library
by Brian 21 May '06

21 May '06

I was able to take the .swf export patch on the Sourceforge page and update it so it compiles with the current Inkscape/ming codebase. Now comes the fun of linking libming in as a static library. Out of the box, ming ships with a make target that builds a static version of the lib. I added the following entry into src/Makefile.am noinst_LIBRARIES = \ extension/internal/ming/libming.a \ But this wants to build libming. What do I need to do to simply link the libming lib in statically? Or would it be best to set up a Makefile_insert that builds a custom version of the Ming library? Brian

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license and attribution
by Aaron Spike 21 May '06

21 May '06

I'm a chronic code copier, I know. But I just realized that I have made a few mistakes moving code around in our codebase. I moved PointToCurvilignPosition from libnrtext/Layout-TNG-OutIter.cpp to livarot/Path.cpp as was indicated in the orignial comment, "this function really belongs to Path. I'll probably move it there eventually, hence the Path-esque coding style." In doing this I forgot to copy the original copyright in the code. But much worse, I just realised that the files that I moved this code between are under different licenses. I moved a GPLed function into a PD file. This cannot happen. The possibility for other accidents in our codebase seems huge. I don't think PD and GPL can coexist well in a codebase that desires so much refactoring. Can we and should we place the PD files under the GPL? As for attribution, what is proper and customary? I suppose I need to chase down the orignial author through the commit logs any time I want to move a function or copy code. Very often people alter code without adding a copyright notice. I haven't added a notice to any of the files I have edited. Am I endangering people of doing the same copying without attribution to me? When should I attribute myself? Right now the act of adding my name to a source file seems rather proud to me. And right now I can't imagine ill will tward someone copying my code without attribution, but as I put more and more sweat and tears into the code that may become possible. Aaron Spike

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object snapping (bug?), related RFEs
by Khiraly 20 May '06

20 May '06

Hi! Is object snapping supposed to work? Im talking about the recent svn version, and File->Document properties->[Snap] The options: [ ] Snap bounding boxes to objects [ ] Snap nodes to objects [ ] Snap to object paths [ ] Snap to object nodes Snap sensitivity: [-|-------------] [ ] Always Snap It took some time the figure out how it is working. 1. So If I want to snap one object node to an another object node I must check the following options: [ ] Snap bounding boxes to objects [X] Snap nodes to objects [ ] Snap to object paths [X] Snap to object nodes Snap sensitivity: [-|-------------] [ ] Always Snap 2. If I want to snap one object node to an another object path I must check the following options: [ ] Snap bounding boxes to objects [X] Snap nodes to objects [X] Snap to object paths [ ] Snap to object nodes Snap sensitivity: [-|-------------] [ ] Always Snap 3. If I check the above two cases it work a little buggy way. Particulary on a curved path. So I pull the mousepointer and sometimeworks sometime just jumping a little distance. Around the node is really hard to place the node. 4. If I check the following to options, it does snapping, but Im not able to figure out its snapping to what. [X] Snap bounding boxes to objects [ ] Snap nodes to objects [ ] Snap to object paths [X] Snap to object nodes Snap sensitivity: [-|-------------] [ ] Always Snap It does snapping, because the Snap sensitivity have its behaviour. 5. If I want to snap the bounding box around an object paths, I must check the following options: [X] Snap bounding boxes to objects [ ] Snap nodes to objects [X] Snap to object paths [ ] Snap to object nodes Snap sensitivity: [-|-------------] [ ] Always Snap ------------------ The problems: The bigger problem is the not clear UI design, its not marked anywhere what I must check If I want some behavoiour. And it does not marked, that one checkbox *depends* an another checkbox. 'Always snap' button does not seems to work. What is supposed to do? Its not clear that the 'Snap sensitivity' GtkHScale element affects ALL the other checkboxes. I was thinking yesterday, that the snappings are not implemented, because I was unable to figure out what checkbox must I checked. So I think it must seriously reconsider this ui design, because this EXCELLENT feature is really a MUSTHAVE. I have found and figured out accidently, and I have already written my feature request for this feature, which is already implemented! (just figured out a Snapping title in the recent changelog) ---------------- Question/rfe about the snapping issues: There is an option (like the new show/hide bezier handles option) to show the nodes of all the objects? It would be easier to snapping. And more speedy to create nice diagrams, flowcharts, etc. ---------------- This feature CLOSE the following RFE (I think): [1014477]Snap (is already closed, but now is fully implemented): https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=93438&atid=604309&func=detail&aid… [1326224] Snap to curve and snap to node: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=93438&atid=604309&func=detail&aid… [907478] Snap to (nodes of) existing objects: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=93438&atid=604309&func=detail&aid… [1252641] Snap objects to nodes of other objects (DUP of #907478): https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=93438&atid=604309&func=detail&aid… [1108238] snap bounding boxes to each other: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=93438&atid=604309&func=detail&aid… [1306873] In node tool, nodes/handles must always snap w/ grid on https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=93438&atid=604309&func=detail&aid… [903432] Snap selection to grid command: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=93438&atid=604309&func=detail&aid… [1424653] Snap behavior instability (This is not implemented, but it can easily achieve with the recent snapping possibilities): https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=93438&atid=604309&func=detail&aid… [1418315] Grid: option to snap to upper left corner only (DUP of #1424653) https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=93438&atid=604309&func=detail&aid… ----------------- Related RFEs, which is NOT IMPLEMENTED, but depends on the above implementation: [1104630] Special fixing points to allow objects to snap together (Its like in Microsoft Visio, or DIA, where one object can snap some autogenerated fixing points. It can workaround by adding additional nodes, but there arent any more elegant way?): https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=93438&atid=604309&func=detail&aid… [1421855] Snap to Grid (There should be an option to active/deactivate the Snap to Grid without going to Document Preferences): https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=93438&atid=604309&func=detail&aid… [1328200] snap icons in toolbar (DUP of #1421855) https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=93438&atid=604309&func=detail&aid… [863737] Snap indicator+ snap/guides dialog/palette (DUP of #1421855) https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=93438&atid=604309&func=detail&aid… [1213890] Guides to Snap to Grid (almost everything can be snapping except GUIDES to GRID/BOUNDING BOX/NODE): https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=604309&aid=1213890&group_… [1328174] snap guides to nodes (DUP of #1213890, we can merge the two rfe) https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=93438&atid=604309&func=detail&aid… [1213890] Guides to Snap to Grid (DUP of #1213890): https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=93438&atid=604309&func=detail&aid… [928027] advanced snap features (missing features, but it can easily workaround by adding some nodes to the object): Snap to Endpoint, Snap to Midpoint, Snap to Intersection): https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=93438&atid=604309&func=detail&aid… [1390687] snap to path imprecise in some cases: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=93438&atid=604309&func=detail&aid… ------------- RFEs what is related, but I cant decide is it resolved or not. [1215241] snap to guides with screen pixels (I cant understand what is the difference between screen and document pixels) https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=93438&atid=604309&func=detail&aid… [1119020] snap only to visible gridlines, snap distance in screen px (DUP of #1215241): https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=93438&atid=604309&func=detail&aid… [1390676] On-screen-pixel distance as snap to... unit (DUP of #1215241) https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=93438&atid=604309&func=detail&aid… -------------- Proposal: Can we consider to close ALL the feature request about snapping? And create one new feature request, where we summarize what snapping feautres was implemented, and what needs to be implemented. So we can close the feature request what is implemented, and mark as DUPLICATE of the above RFE all the other feature requests. However with this RFE, we can track all the snapping issues and roadmap. Sorry for my english, and thanks if you have read all my email;) Best regards, Khiraly

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Gradient ids change between 0.43 and SVN in my files
by Jean-François Lemaire 20 May '06

20 May '06

Hello, I've got a serious problem regarding gradients with last days' Inkscape SVN. Something changed that screws up the gradients ids of files I created with previous SVN builds. To make things clearer: If I create today an object with gradient fill with, say, Inkscape 0.43 stable and open it in Inkscape SVN, the gradient is correctly displayed. If on the other hand I open the files I created and worked on earlier with Inkscape 0.43 in Inkscape SVN, *all* the gradients are mis-attributed and do not display. They are present in the gradients drop down menu, but their ids no longer correspond to what is specified in <defs>. If I vacuum the defs, the gradients are deleted since they are not used by any object. Here's a link to a file that contains 24 objects, almost all of them with gradients: http://users.skynet.be/jflemaire/files/gradients_issue.svg (Incidentally, this file displays correctly in Konqueror.) I hope someone with more knowledge of SVG/Inkscape will be able to help, because I dread the moment I'll have to reassign all gradients to each objects manually! Cheers, JFL -- Jean-François Lemaire

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Inkscape UI
by Kevin Cannon 20 May '06

20 May '06

Hi all, I've been following Inkscape's development for some time, and it's always looked like it had quite a lot of promise. I was looking for an open source vector tool to recommend to someone today and thought I'd download it to see how it's coming along. I'm happy to say that it's improved a lot since I last used it. I've very impressed. The one thing I'm concerned about is the UI. I'm a web designer by trade and while Inkscape is quite full featured, the UI is a bit of a leap to what I'm used to, which makes transition very hard. I read your wiki, and I understand wanting an Inkscape specific UI is important and I agree that just aiming to be an Illustrator clone wouldn't be a worthy goal. However, I think you could win a lot of hearts and minds by conforming to general UI elements that are used in graphics packages. During Firefox's early development, they made the conscious decision to match some of IE's shortcuts (alt+d, backspace for example) and some of it's conventions. The aim was to reduce the barrier to entry, and to make it feel more familiar, and it was one of the factors in it's success. I would strongly suggest you make designers feel more at home when they give Inkscape a try. Things like pressing spacebar to pan around a page is a de facto standard amongst image editing tools. I'd say it would be trivial to make Inkscape work in the same manner. Similarly, your path nodes/handles tool are the same as the 'white arrow' tool in other apps. Changing that so it matches would again dramatically increase the accessibility of the software, and I believe seriously increase your usage figures. These are some small examples of what I'm talking about. As a designer, I'm designing interfaces every day, and creating a low barrier to entry is crucial for my clients. I innovate in certain areas, but know that some things need to stick to conventions or else people will never use the sites I build. Inkscape is a great tool, but it's broken some of those conventions, and that will frustrate and annoy users when they try to apply their current knowledge to this application, and that is a waste. You needn't lose potential users when Inkscape is so very good, just because they're confused. I would strongly suggest that you make efforts to remove those barriers while staying true to your goals. I'm not a coder so I cannot offer my services in that regard, but if you want to change some things to make the UI more friendly to new users, then I will happily offer my services in identifying issues. I sincerely hope you'll take me up on my offer, Kind Regards, - Kevin Cannon

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Testing the effects, and a crash report
by Khiraly 20 May '06

20 May '06

Hi! I think it would be a great idea, to have in the Effects menu a testing effects option. If someone click on this menuitem it will execute a simple python AND perl script, which test all the dependencies required for launching the effects, and it report OK/problem form. SO it would be easy for the users, if the effects is right installed or not. Im writing this idea, because there are many effects which require an external file, or an object to work on, or simply it does not seems to make anything (function plotter). So it would be nice to test, if the system right installed or not. There is a crash related to this issue. There is a View->Scripts menuitem, what launched thereis a simple python script, what can be executed. If I launch it, inkscape crash immediatly. Here is the gdb output: View->Scripts, File->launch python program gdb: (gdb) run Starting program: /usr/bin/inkscape [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] [New Thread -1228080768 (LWP 12929)] (inkscape:12929): Pango-WARNING **: Error loading GPOS table 4097 ** ERROR **: interpretScript: error starting Language '(null)' aborting... Program received signal SIGABRT, Aborted. [Switching to Thread -1228080768 (LWP 12929)] 0xb6e707c7 in raise () from /lib/tls/libc.so.6 (gdb) bt #0 0xb6e707c7 in raise () from /lib/tls/libc.so.6 #1 0xb6e7206b in abort () from /lib/tls/libc.so.6 #2 0xb7182240 in g_logv () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 #3 0xb7182279 in g_log () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 #4 0x084be1dc in Inkscape::Extension::Script::InkscapeScript::interpretScript ( this=0xbff0609b, script=@0xbff060a4, output=@0xbff060a0, error=@0xbff0609c, language=Inkscape::Extension::Script::InkscapeScript::PYTHON) at ../../src/extension/script/InkscapeScript.cpp:87 #5 0x081e7444 in Inkscape::UI::Dialog::ScriptDialogImpl::execute ( this=0xa6f6000, lang=Inkscape::Extension::Script::InkscapeScript::PYTHON) at ../../src/ui/dialog/scriptdialog.cpp:149 #6 0x081e75a9 in Inkscape::UI::Dialog::ScriptDialogImpl::executePython ( this=0xa6f6000) at ../../src/ui/dialog/scriptdialog.cpp:159 #7 0x081ea221 in sigc::bound_mem_functor0<void, Inkscape::UI::Dialog::ScriptDialogImpl>::operator() (this=0x980deec) at mem_fun.h:1787 #8 0x081ea238 in sigc::adaptor_functor<sigc::bound_mem_functor0<void, Inkscape::UI::Dialog::ScriptDialogImpl> >::operator() (this=0x980dee8) at adaptor_trait.h:251 #9 0x081ea254 in sigc::internal::slot_call0<sigc::bound_mem_functor0<void, Inkscape::UI::Dialog::ScriptDialogImpl>, void>::call_it (rep=0x980ded0) at slot.h:103 #10 0xb7b7db5a in Glib::SignalProxyNormal::slot0_void_callback () from /usr/lib/libglibmm-2.4.so.1 #11 0xb71fba2b in g_cclosure_marshal_VOID__VOID () from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #12 0xb71eecb9 in g_closure_invoke () from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 ---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit--- #13 0xb71ff134 in g_signal_stop_emission () from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #14 0xb7200490 in g_signal_emit_valist () from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #15 0xb72007f9 in g_signal_emit () from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #16 0xb78671c2 in gtk_widget_activate () from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 #17 0xb7785a1b in gtk_menu_shell_activate_item () from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 #18 0xb7785d38 in gtk_menu_shell_activate_item () from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 #19 0xb777b99f in gtk_menu_reorder_child () from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 #20 0xb7e237ce in Gtk::Widget_Class::button_release_event_callback () from /usr/lib/libgtkmm-2.4.so.1 #21 0xb7775900 in _gtk_marshal_BOOLEAN__BOXED () from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 #22 0xb71ee5f9 in g_cclosure_new_swap () from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #23 0xb71eecb9 in g_closure_invoke () from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #24 0xb71ff315 in g_signal_stop_emission () from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #25 0xb72001fe in g_signal_emit_valist () from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #26 0xb72007f9 in g_signal_emit () from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #27 0xb78673e4 in gtk_widget_activate () from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 #28 0xb7773d2d in gtk_propagate_event () from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 #29 0xb77741a3 in gtk_main_do_event () from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 #30 0xb7607bfa in _gdk_events_queue () from /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 #31 0xb71791ac in g_main_context_dispatch () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 #32 0xb717c63b in g_main_context_check () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 #33 0xb717c997 in g_main_loop_run () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 ---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit--- #34 0xb7773341 in gtk_main () from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 #35 0xb7dc1377 in Gtk::Main::run_impl () from /usr/lib/libgtkmm-2.4.so.1 #36 0xb7dc1222 in Gtk::Main::run () from /usr/lib/libgtkmm-2.4.so.1 #37 0x08071f8b in sp_main_gui (argc=1, argv=0xbff07094) at ../../src/main.cpp:642 #38 0x0819e3c5 in Inkscape::NSApplication::Application::run (this=0xbff06ff0) at ../../src/application/application.cpp:117 #39 0x08070aea in main (argc=1, argv=0xbff07094) at ../../src/main.cpp:477 (gdb) Best regards, Khiraly

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Minor bugs/lacks
by Khiraly 19 May '06

19 May '06

Hi! Im collecting some minor bugs what I was observing, hope there will some of them, which can easily fix for the release. # Alpha value does not work on page border and background The alpha value for the document border and document background does not work. If the alpha is 255, we have border, if the alpha is 1-254 wi dont have it. Document properties->Page->[Border]->Border color Document properties->Page->[General]->Background # Swatches Since there is lot of discussion about default enabling swatch in this release, I have collecting some lack of feature/bug. 1. swatch colors is not saved between inkscape session. So if I relaunch inkscape I must reset my palette to be used 2. palettes (in swatch) does not saved with inkscape .svg. Same as above 3. DnD does not work everywhere. For example in the stroke and fill dialog the DnD work only in the RGBA text input, and only in a limited way: a/ delete the active color from it (ex: a40000e1) b/ DnD the color from swatch c/ delete the '#' first character # minor tweaks needed on the command bars dialog buttons On the command bars, there are few dialog buttons (fill and stroke, text and font, xml editor, align and distribute, inkscape preferences, document properties). The first click show the dialog windows but the second click does not hide it. I think it would be the right behaviour. Best regards, Khiraly

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[noreply@...34...: SourceForge.net Support: Over-quota notice for project: inkscape]
by Bryce Harrington 19 May '06

19 May '06

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Crash while undoing pasted texts
by Mathieu Dimanche 19 May '06

19 May '06

I got a crash when doing the following : 1) open inkscape 2) select the text tool, click on canvas and type some text 3) do it once again in another part of the document 4) switch to select mode and select both texts 5) ctrl-C ctrl-V the selection 6) hit Ctrl-Z Crash with : ** ERROR **: file ../../inkscape/src/document-undo.cpp: line 128 (void sp_docume nt_maybe_done(SPDocument*, const gchar*)): assertion failed: (doc->priv->sensiti ve) aborting... Emergency save activated! am I the only one ? I'll look at that in a few hours I think mtou

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"${datarootdir}" not expanded correctly
by Wolfram Quester 19 May '06

19 May '06

Hi, I tried to build a new svn-version of inkscape yesterday and while compilation is fine, I get into some runtime trouble. When I run inkscape, it says: > ** (inkscape:6598): CRITICAL **: Inkscape::XML::Document* sp_repr_read_file(const gchar*, const gchar*): assertion `Inkscape::IO::file_test( filename, G_FILE_TEST_EXISTS )' failed > > ** (inkscape:6598): WARNING **: Unable to read keys file ${datarootdir}/inkscape/keys/default.xml > > ** (inkscape:6598): WARNING **: failed to load icon 'file_import' > > .... lots of faile to load icon... As indicated by the warning it seems the ${datarootdir} variable ist not expanded correctly during ./configure. Indeed, 'strings inkscape' shows a lot of occurrences of ${datarootdir} and config.h contains the lines > #define INKSCAPE_DATADIR "${datarootdir}" > #define PACKAGE_LOCALE_DIR "${datarootdir}/locale" To compile, I did the following: make distclean ./autogen.sh ./configure --prefix=/tmp DESTDIR=/tmp make make install A few days ago this worked flawlessly. Does someone have a clue what's going wrong here? BTW, not using --prefix and DESTDIR doesn't change anything. Thanks for your help, Wolfi PS: output from ./autogen.sh: --1. distribution------------------------------------------------------------ Debian GNU/Linux testing/unstable (etch/sid) --2. tools------------------------------------------------------------------- /usr/bin/m4: /usr/bin/autoconf: autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.59d /usr/bin/autoheader: autoheader (GNU Autoconf) 2.59d /usr/bin/automake: automake (GNU automake) 1.9.6 /usr/bin/automake-1.7: automake (GNU automake) 1.7.9 automake-1.8: not found /usr/bin/automake-1.9: automake (GNU automake) 1.9.6 /usr/bin/aclocal: aclocal (GNU automake) 1.9.6 /usr/bin/aclocal-1.7: aclocal (GNU automake) 1.7.9 aclocal-1.8: not found /usr/bin/aclocal-1.9: aclocal (GNU automake) 1.9.6 /usr/bin/intltoolize: intltoolize (GNU intltool) 0.34.2 /usr/bin/gettextize: /usr/bin/gettextize (GNU gettext-tools) 0.14.5 /usr/bin/libtoolize: libtoolize (GNU libtool) 1.5.22 --3. environment variables--------------------------------------------------- PATH=/home/wolfi/src/XCrySDen/:/home/wolfi/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games:/usr/X11R6/bin:/home/wolfi/src/XCrySDen//scripts:/home/wolfi/src/XCrySDen//util LANG=en_US.UTF-8 PYTHONPATH=:/home/wolfi/python:

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Re: [gnu.org #288440] Inkscape frustrations?
by Bryce Harrington 18 May '06

18 May '06

On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 10:32:15AM -0400, Tony Wieczorek via RT wrote: > Hu Bryce. First, let me say that I love Inkscape! One of the sysadmins > in our office was blown back by all the funtionality it has. I use it > quite often these days, to design stickers and posters. Cool. :-) > My frustrations were with exporting the sign in a format that Kinkos > would understand. Perhaps I should have made it clearer that my > frustrations weren't with using Inkscape so much as they were with > dealing with all the various file formats. The format choices were > confusing - especially since I didn't know that Kinkos couldn't open the > Inkscape SVG, but seemed to be able to open the regular SVG format. It > might have been helpful to get a rough estimate of how large the files > would be once I saved them - certain Aha, yes this was my guess. The file format frustrations are very, very common. These are tough to solve because as you can imagine they're a tad outside our core scope, but you'll be happy to hear we've been speaking with others in the free software community (especially Cairo and Scribus) with more experience than us, and hope to have PDF and EPS working much more solidly in the future. Meantime, it's actually quite exciting to hear that Kinko's supports any variant of SVG at all - I would have guessed SVG to be too "niche" still for them. Note that the "plain SVG" format is stripped down form of SVG; Inkscape's SVG adheres 100% to the SVG standard. The "plain SVG" option avoids using otherwise valid SVG syntax that we have found that other programs have trouble with. Thus, it's there for exactly the situation you were in, and it's good to hear that it worked! > I appreciate you taking the time to write in and see if you've addressed > the problems I had. I certainly love the work you all do and the > progress you are making on an excellent project. Thanks so much. Sure thing, hope you don't mind if I cc the team. And thank you from us for all the important work the FSF does, to help ensure the rest of us can keep doing what we're doing. Bryce > > Someone pointed me at your 4/26 article, which mentioned some > > frustrations using Inkscape to create a sign. Would you mind > > elaborating on what those issues were? I'm one of the Inkscape > > developers, and since we're preparing a new release soon, would like a > > chance to see if we've addressed those problems. > > > > Thanks, > > Bryce > > > > > > > -- > Tony Wieczorek > Program Assistant > (617) 542-5942 > > Free Software Foundation > 51 Franklin St. Fifth Floor > Boston, MA 02110 USA

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Re: covermount cd-rom distribution request
by Nicu Buculei (OCAL) 18 May '06

18 May '06

Derek Hinchliffe wrote: > On 5/18/06, Nicu Buculei <nicu@...398...> wrote: >> >> Could the meaning of (3b) be stretched and the mention of the >> availability of the source code at http://inkscape.org be understood as >> a written offer to provide the source code? >> > > http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#TOCDistributeWithSourceOnInternet > > That FAQ specifically addresses CD via mail order vs FTP, but I think > the same would apply to a CD distributed on a magazine. Indeed, this is the letter of the FAQ, but it really shows the age of the 2.0 version of the GPL, not only we now use other protocols for downloading files (HTTP or p2p instead of FTP), but today downloading is much more convenient compared with mailing a physical disc. I work also with OpenOffice.org where the *official* redistribution policy is "include the source code *or* tell the users where it is (http://www.openoffice.org)" (emphasis mine), and this policy generated a huge redistribution network (and, arguably, a large number of users) -- nicu Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/

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Not about node sculpting, but UI...
by Vladimir Savić 18 May '06

18 May '06

In the spirit of node sculpting debate, I felt free to say something about Inkscape's UI in general. :) Just my observations (from user's perspective). 1) I would make Freehand drawing tool an option of Pen tool. Pen tool - Bezier curves and straight line (default) - Freehand drawing (top toolbar option and configurable auto-turning-on option when "stylus" or "eraser" input device is enabled and Pen tool selected) For about year and a half of using Inkscape this tool has been picked only 10-20 times. :) 2) Rename Star and polygon tool to Figure tool(?) Figure tool - Polygon - Star (- Comic book balloon - will be requested more of these in the future, I'm sure...) 3) On canvas gradient tool - if object has no gradient fill/stroke - should be able to detect if selected object has fill or stroke activated and edit existing one. In case of both activated do top toolbar selected editing. Current default adds unnecessary fill/stroke to an object. 4) Selector tool First LMB click - Scale Second LMB click - Rotation/skew Third LMB click - Perspective I see all of these as overall object editings. This way perspective should be relatively easy to find, I think. First thing I do when I try new graphic application is to click on some object few times to see if something's happening. Don't know about others... 5) Snap to... Would like to see snapping options in that top toolbar always easy accessible. Tools that will benefit: Node, Rectangle, Circle, Shape, Spiral, Pen, Bezier, Text and Gradient. Again, all written here are my aloud thinkings. I don't expect positive feedback on any but would like to hear comments. I think that adding more tools in toolbox will just make things worse and will clutter the desktop. And that's already happening. Cheers, Vlada

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Building Mac OS X .dmg packages
by Arjan Molenaar 18 May '06

18 May '06

Hi, I'm Arjan Molenaar, maintainer of the Gaphor (http://gaphor.sourceforge.net), a GTK+ based UML modeling tool. I'm getting several requests for an easy to install package (.dmg) for OS X. Since Inkscpae is also a pure GTK+ based application having a OSX package, I was wondering if one could tell me how to build such a package. I have an iBook at my disposal and have Gaphor up and running on OSX. Could you give me some pointers/examples/whatever on how to create a nice packages application for Gaphor? Thanks in advance, Regards, Arjan Molenaar

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Short Delay in Feature Freeze
by Bryce Harrington 18 May '06

18 May '06

Hi all, After checking into the status of the layer dialog and text toolbar, it looks like significant benefits will be had by delaying the Feature Freeze a few more days. So let's push it back to the 20th. It probably seems like we're being awfully tentative in pushing into freeze, but my feeling is that minimizing the length of time we are in feature freeze, the less painful the release process will be in general. So I would rather delay Feature Freeze to let things finish ripening, than to push into bug fixing mode, and end up needing to continually delay the Hard Freeze date or the release date. It's also been quite inspiring to see the team coming together and focusing on the major features - like the layer dialog and text toolbar - that we know users are really looking forward to in this release. Anyway, to reiterate: Currently, please refrain from adding new features in the main codebase (use branches instead), but keep putting time into polishing existing features. Plan to wrap up by Saturday the 20th. Bryce

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Love is a canvas furnished by Nature and embroidered by imagination
by malena rhonda 18 May '06

18 May '06

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Re: covermount cd-rom distribution request
by Bryce Harrington 18 May '06

18 May '06

Hi Johan, yes this is fine, as long as you also mention that it is Open Source, and that they can get the source code at http://inkscape.org. Thanks, Bryce On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 05:04:02PM +0200, Johan Vandecasteele wrote: > Hello, > > I'm Johan Vandecasteele, marketingmanager of Belgium's leading computer consumer magazines Clickx Magazine and PC Magazine. We are including a free covermount cd with our Clickx Magazine n? 122 (June 27 2006), and we would like to include Inkscape on that cd. > > Can you please tell us if we can have your permission to do so. Please visit our website www.clickxmagazine.be for information on our magazine. The download link to our mediakit is http://sales.minoc.com/newsletter/MediakitFull_Minoc_2006_ENG.pdf - it will give you some idea of our company and portfolio. > > Hope to hear from you soon, > > Kind regards, > > Johan Vandecasteele > > -------------------- > Johan Vandecasteele > marketingmanager Minoc Business Press > > Clickx Magazine | FWD | PC Magazine | Smart Business Strategies | ZDNet.be | GameSpot.be > www.clickxmagazine.be | www.fwdmagazine.be | www.pcmagazine.be | www.zdnet.be | www.gamespot.be > > Tel: 0032 14 44 20 61 | Fax: 0032 14 44 20 66 > Minoc Business Press NV | Everdongenlaan 15 bus 1 | 2300 Turnhout | Belgium

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RE: Inkscape-devel digest, Vol 1 #1878 - 12 msgs
by Joc 18 May '06

18 May '06

>Message: 12 >Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] NEW: node sculpting >From: Tavmjong Bah <tavmjong@...8...> >To: bulia byak <buliabyak@...400...> >Cc: Inkscape Devel List <inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net>, >Inkscape Users List <inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net> >Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 12:07:26 +0200 > > >> I'm not sure I understand this, can you draw an illustration? > >See the attached illustration of attempting to put text on a can. The attachment did not get decoded properly at my end, but the image can be seen by copying the base64 data (without the MIME info) to: http://www.toastedspam.com/decode64 Joc

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NEW: node sculpting
by bulia byak 18 May '06

18 May '06

http://www.inkscape.org/screenshots/gallery/inkscape-0.44-nodesculpting.png An entirely new way of manipulating paths in Node tool is added in this version: Node sculpting. Normally, when you have several nodes selected and you drag one of them, all selected nodes move by the same amount. Now, if you Alt-drag one of the selected nodes, only that node is fully displaced; other selected nodes are moved less than the full amount, so that those farthest from the drag point remain stationary. So, for example, if you select several nodes on a straight line and Alt+drag the middle selected node, the path will bend into a smooth bell-like curve. Nodes' handles are also adjusted correspondingly to keep the overall shape smooth and natural. (If you don't have enough nodes on a path fragment that you want to reshape in this way, just select the end nodes of that fragment and press Ins a few times to populate it with nodes.) Moreover, node sculpting is sensitive to pressure of your tablet pen. If you press slightly, your curve will have a narrow sharp tip (i.e. the nearest neighbors of your dragged node will move only a bit); if you press hard, the curve's tip will be wide and blunt (i.e. the nearest neighbors will move almost as much as the dragged node). (Hint: to stop dragging without losing your shape, first release Alt and then lift the tip of the pen.) There are many possible applications of the sculpting technique. To take a simple example, selecting all nodes of an ellipse-like shape and Alt+dragging one of them will smoothly and naturally stretch and skew the entire shape in any direction. Doing the same to a complex path, such as star or spiral, will twist and punch it without destroying its intricate structure - this is the way to get squashed or self-intersecting stars, eccentric spirals and other shapes not easily doable before. Selecting only part of all nodes allows you to smoothly reshape parts of the figure without disturbing the rest. Especially useful node sculpting is for complex natural paths, such as calligraphic strokes or bitmap traces, where you often want to do large-scale pushes and bends without destroying the small-scale features. Things like making a calligraphic stroke narrower in one place and wider in another, or extending the ear or flattening the nose of a head, or any other reshaping of complex paths - all this is now much faster and more natural to do using sculpting. Starting from en ellipse with added nodes, it takes just a few Alt+drags to tweak it into a silhouette of a head, or a map of Australia, or an Inkscape logo! -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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Re: [Inkscape-user] layer icons
by Jon A. Cruz 17 May '06

17 May '06

On May 16, 2006, at 10:23 AM, Jakub Steiner wrote: > I suggest simplifying those icons to the core of what they are > trying to > say. Use distinguishable silhouettes, color. An image is worth more > than > my poor writing: > > http://jimmac.musichall.cz/stuff/visual-noise.png That does make things look much prettier... ... however, do you have an idea how that can tie into the logical work being done with Tango and the ArtLibre stuff? http://standards.freedesktop.org/icon-naming-spec/icon-naming-spec- latest.html http://tango-project.org/ArtLibreSet The latter does have some names for layer raise, lower, etc. Basically, would you suggest to use the base "go-*" names/icons in the dialog, and the layer ones elsewhere (e.g. menus and toolbars)?

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dxf import
by Alexandre Prokoudine 17 May '06

17 May '06

Greetings, In release notes for 0.43 it is mentioned that there is a standalone utility to import DXF files that was developed by Matt Squires. This code has moved to Inkscape's trunk since then (three months ago). I'm curious if it should be mentioned in release notes for 0.44, since Inkscape has only DXF export for desktop plotters officially now ;-) Alexandre

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Minor bug on layer dialog
by Khiraly 17 May '06

17 May '06

Hi! I use inkscape-20060517-0200.tar.bz2 tarball. So the most annoying layer bugs are corrected (or it seams at least;). I have found one minor problem and a minor weakness: * when you click multiple time on the 'Raise current layer' icon (or the 'lower current layer'), only the first click seems to working. The second click does not move the current layer above an another one layer. However I you click on an another icon and reclick the 'Raise current layer' it works again. I hope its clear;) * double clicking on layer does not popup a dialog to rename it. You are forced to use the menu. It's really a minor weakness, normally rarely rename the layer;) Khiraly

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Re: [Inkscape-user] layer icons
by Bryce Harrington 17 May '06

17 May '06

On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 07:23:00PM +0200, Jakub Steiner wrote: > Howdy. > I'm very pleased by the introduction of a layer window. Will help > greatly to manage more complex artwork. [Setting Reply-to to inkscape-devel@] > I noticed however the button icons are quite poor in doing what they > should - being easier to distinguish than text labels. They all include > the rectangle signifying "layer". But the fact that this element appears > on evey single one of them makes it nothing but visual noise. > > I suggest simplifying those icons to the core of what they are trying to > say. Use distinguishable silhouettes, color. An image is worth more than > my poor writing: > > http://jimmac.musichall.cz/stuff/visual-noise.png That does look quite a bit clearer. > Having said all that, I don't think the metaphor for delete you see on > the mockup is particularly strong. Could you explain what might be better? Bryce

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build problem
by Khiraly 17 May '06

17 May '06

Hi! I have downloaded this source snapshot: http://inkscape.modevia.com/svn-snap/inkscape-20060516-0400.tar.bz2 I have debian sid, what I did: tar -xjvf inkscape-20060516-0400.tar.bz2 cd inkscape-20060516-0400 cat debian/control |grep -i build # install all the dependencies chmod +x debian/rules dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b It fails with the following compile error: if i486-linux-gnu-g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../../src -I.. -I/usr/include/freetype2 -pthread -DORBIT2=1 -I/usr/include/gnome-vfs-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/include -I/usr/include/bonobo-activation-2.0 -I/usr/include/libbonobo-2.0 -I/usr/include/gconf/2 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/orbit-2.0 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -DPOTRACE=\"potrace\" -pthread -I/usr/include/gdkmm-2.4 -I/usr/lib/gdkmm-2.4/include -I/usr/include/glibmm-2.4 -I/usr/lib/glibmm-2.4/include -I/usr/include/pangomm-1.4 -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/sigc++-2.0 -I/usr/lib/sigc++-2.0/include -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/gtkmm-2.4 -I/usr/lib/gtkmm-2.4/include -I/usr/include/atkmm-1.6 -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/libxml2 -I/usr/include/gtkspell-2.0 -I../../cxxtest -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Wsign-compare -Woverloaded-virtual -Wswitch -Wno-unused-parameter -g -O2 -MT dialogs/layer-properties.o -MD -MP -MF "dialogs/.deps/layer-properties.Tpo" \ -c -o dialogs/layer-properties.o `test -f 'dialogs/layer-properties.cpp' || echo '../../src/'`dialogs/layer-properties.cpp; \ then mv -f "dialogs/.deps/layer-properties.Tpo" "dialogs/.deps/layer-properties.Po"; \ else rm -f "dialogs/.deps/layer-properties.Tpo"; exit 1; \ fi /usr/include/gtkmm-2.4/gtkmm/treeview.h: In member function 'int Gtk::TreeView::append_column_editable(const Glib::ustring&, const Gtk::TreeModelColumn<ColumnType>&)': /usr/include/gtkmm-2.4/gtkmm/treeview.h:1424: warning: statement has no effect /usr/include/gtkmm-2.4/gtkmm/treeview.h: In function 'void Gtk::TreeView_Private::_connect_auto_store_editable_signal_handler(Gtk::TreeView*, Gtk::CellRenderer*, const Gtk::TreeModelColumn<ColumnType>&)': /usr/include/gtkmm-2.4/gtkmm/treeview.h:1681: warning: statement has no effect if i486-linux-gnu-g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../../src -I.. -I/usr/include/freetype2 -pthread -DORBIT2=1 -I/usr/include/gnome-vfs-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/include -I/usr/include/bonobo-activation-2.0 -I/usr/include/libbonobo-2.0 -I/usr/include/gconf/2 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/orbit-2.0 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -DPOTRACE=\"potrace\" -pthread -I/usr/include/gdkmm-2.4 -I/usr/lib/gdkmm-2.4/include -I/usr/include/glibmm-2.4 -I/usr/lib/glibmm-2.4/include -I/usr/include/pangomm-1.4 -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/sigc++-2.0 -I/usr/lib/sigc++-2.0/include -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/gtkmm-2.4 -I/usr/lib/gtkmm-2.4/include -I/usr/include/atkmm-1.6 -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/libxml2 -I/usr/include/gtkspell-2.0 -I../../cxxtest -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Wsign-compare -Woverloaded-virtual -Wswitch -Wno-unused-parameter -g -O2 -MT dialogs/layers-panel.o -MD -MP -MF "dialogs/.deps/layers-panel.Tpo" \ -c -o dialogs/layers-panel.o `test -f 'dialogs/layers-panel.cpp' || echo '../../src/'`dialogs/layers-panel.cpp; \ then mv -f "dialogs/.deps/layers-panel.Tpo" "dialogs/.deps/layers-panel.Po"; \ else rm -f "dialogs/.deps/layers-panel.Tpo"; exit 1; \ fi ../../src/dialogs/layers-panel.cpp:27:30: error: src/widgets/icon.h: No such file or directory /usr/include/gtkmm-2.4/gtkmm/treeview.h: In member function 'int Gtk::TreeView::append_column_editable(const Glib::ustring&, const Gtk::TreeModelColumn<ColumnType>&)': /usr/include/gtkmm-2.4/gtkmm/treeview.h:1424: warning: statement has no effect /usr/include/gtkmm-2.4/gtkmm/treeview.h: In function 'void Gtk::TreeView_Private::_connect_auto_store_editable_signal_handler(Gtk::TreeView*, Gtk::CellRenderer*, const Gtk::TreeModelColumn<ColumnType>&)': /usr/include/gtkmm-2.4/gtkmm/treeview.h:1681: warning: statement has no effect ../../src/dialogs/layers-panel.cpp: In member function 'void Inkscape::UI::Dialogs::LayersPanel::_styleButton(Gtk::Button&, SPDesktop*, unsigned int, const char*)': ../../src/dialogs/layers-panel.cpp:70: error: 'sp_icon_new' was not declared in this scope make[3]: *** [dialogs/layers-panel.o] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/lama/Desktop/down/inkscape-20060516-0400/builddir/src' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/lama/Desktop/down/inkscape-20060516-0400/builddir' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/lama/Desktop/down/inkscape-20060516-0400/builddir' make: *** [build] Error 2 Can somebody help me what is wrong? For the record the simple ./configure && make success, without error. What information should I provide for further help? Best regards, Khiraly

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Re: [Inkscape-user] layer icons
by Jon A. Cruz 17 May '06

17 May '06

On May 16, 2006, at 8:40 PM, Never you mind wrote: > go-up > go-top > go-down > go-bottom > edit-delete Updated in SVN with revision 11815

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Layers Dialog
by Jon A. Cruz 17 May '06

17 May '06

I just committed the layers dialog UI based on the Layer Manager that Mental had done. We know there are some compile issues with sigc++ up to 2.0.10 and gcc 4.0.x. We think that by sigc++ 2.0.16 things were corrected in sigc++, as an autopackage build using that worked on a box where the base build failed. For me, I'm using sigc++ 2.0.11 and gcc 3.3 and all is happy-happy. Known issues: * gcc 4.0 compile problems * plain checkboxes instead of little eye and lock icons * layers not listed in proper order The order issue is coming from something in the layer manager itself, and the UI stuff in the layers dialog is properly displaying what it's been told. I figure that's a short debug session on the ordering in the layer manager itself. Thus it's a minor bug.

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Bug Organizer person needed
by Bryce Harrington 16 May '06

16 May '06

For the 0.44 release, we will be making an attempt to close critical bugs in the bug tracker. However, first those bugs need to be prioritized. We have a system for prioritizing bugs, and it's pretty straightforward to do, even by someone with minimal technical experience. Thus this makes an excellent task for someone who wants to contribute to Inkscape but haven't found other tasks they're comfortable doing. Basically, you go through the bug tracker and review bugs set to priority 5 (the default). If it involves a crash, data loss, or other serious issues, mark it critical (9). Otherwise, mark it 6 if it looks important, or 3 if it looks like a lower priority issue. If you're interested in helping in this area, contact me either on IRC or by email, and I can set up your access and help you get started! Thanks, Bryce

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composite-related crash
by Johan Forsberg 16 May '06

16 May '06

Hi, I'm using xorg 7.0 with the composite extension and inkscape is very easy to crash. I do the following: 1) start inkscape 2) use e.g. the rectangle tool to draw a shape 3) open the fill&stroke dielog 4) change the width of the stroke for the rectangle 5) click outside the rectangle to de-select it. Inkscape crashes immediately every time, after giving the following error: ------------------------------- (inkscape:22744): Gdk-WARNING **: Attempt to draw a drawable with depth 32 to a drawable with depth 24 (inkscape:22744): Gdk-WARNING **: gdkpixbuf-drawable.c:1257: Depth of the source drawable is 32 where as the visual depth of the colormap passed is 24 (inkscape:22744): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_copy: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed (inkscape:22744): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_saturate_and_pixelate: assertion `GDK_IS_PIXBUF (src)' failed Emergency save activated! -------------------------------- Actually, the first two messages I think are appearing right before, when I change the width of the stroke. If I disable the composite extension, the identical procedure gives no crash. Is xorg still buggy, or is his a "proper" inkscape bug? I'll do a gdb trace if it's interesting. Cheers, /Johan

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Proposal for Feature Freeze today?
by Bryce Harrington 16 May '06

16 May '06

Hi all, How do you feel about our readiness to go into Feature Freeze mode today? There's still some development work not finished, but with the recent progress on the layer manager and other features that people have been working on, it feels like things are getting suitably wrapped up. Is there any remaining development work that you think we should wait for? Or do you think we are ready to enter the next phase of the release? During the Feature Freeze, we will discourage any further feature work in the main development branch, instead encouraging everyone to turn attention to the high priority items in the bug tracker. The more bugs we can fix during this next period, the better. Also, if you haven't already, please make sure to add a description of your feature work to the ReleaseNotes in wiki. Our translators will wish to get these notes translated, so the closer they are to done, the more likely they'll be able to complete their work on time. Bryce

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Layers Dialog
by bulia byak 16 May '06

16 May '06

The long wait is over. A workable Layers dialog was committed last night by Jon Cruz. Hurray! Just press Ctrl+Shift+L and enjoy. Jon, so far I found two bugs: - if the actual order of layers (from bottom) is 1, 2, 3, 4 then in the dialog they go like this: 3, 2, 1, 4. - when you toggle visibility/lock in the dialog, the drop-down selector in the statusbar is updated, but the toggle buttons next to it are not. -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Re: Font embedding and subsetting
by Martin Owens 16 May '06

16 May '06

You seem to know your thing about PS, perhaps you can add this feature. On Tue, 16 May 2006 01:18:12 +0200 , Olivier Lefevre <lefevrol@...36...> wrote: >It will be great if this is supported in the PDF export. >Meanwhile I don't see why it is not already supported >in the PS export, as it is perfectly possible to embed >and subset both Type 1 and TFF (wrapped as Type 42) >fonts into PS documents. This text-to-path thing is a >real debacle for SVG documents with a lot of text. > >Regards, > >-- O.L. > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? >Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier >Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo >http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 >_______________________________________________ >Inkscape-devel mailing list >Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel > > -- #::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::# #::.. http://www.doctormo.co.uk/ ..::# #::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::#

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Font embedding and subsetting
by Martin Owens 15 May '06

15 May '06

Hello Olivier, I am developing a new svgtopdf tool/plugin and I was just looking at that feature today, pdf has the ability to import the ttf or ps font directly and I think this is what I will do. Somehow I will have to link to Linux/Mac/Windows installed Fonts, this might take a bit of work to figure out but the main inkscape guys might know some things. Hopefully this will solve your problem in time, but my work is far from compleat and I need time to address many many bugs. Best Regards, Martin Owens On Mon, 15 May 2006 23:03:05 +0200 , Olivier Lefevre <lefevrol@...36...> wrote: >I was a bit surprised to read that if you don't use text-to-path >you will need the font to be resident on the machine. Using >text-to-path is very undesirable because it leads to gigantic >PDF files yet if you don't neither GhostScript nor Acrobat >(after conversion of the PS to PDF) can find it. This is true >of both TTF or Type 1 fonts and even though the fonts are >installed. What does one have to do??? > >Anyway, are there any plans to implement font embedding in PS >output (and in PDF later), both for Type 1 and TTF fonts? IMO this >is not a minor issue and I was surprised that Inkscape does not >already support font embedding. Font subsetting would be great, >too: otherwise you'll be limited to free fonts. > >Regards, > >-- O.L. > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? >Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier >Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo >http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 >_______________________________________________ >Inkscape-devel mailing list >Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel > > -- #::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::# #::.. http://www.doctormo.co.uk/ ..::# #::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::#

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svgtopdf progression
by Martin Owens 15 May '06

15 May '06

OK, we have now cleaned up and commited this sub-project to inkscapes svn. please feel free to checkout and review, there is a makefile and everything should be familiar. Best Regards, Martin Owens -- #::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::# #::.. http://www.doctormo.co.uk/ ..::# #::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::#

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Font embedding and subsetting
by Olivier Lefevre 15 May '06

15 May '06

I was a bit surprised to read that if you don't use text-to-path you will need the font to be resident on the machine. Using text-to-path is very undesirable because it leads to gigantic PDF files yet if you don't neither GhostScript nor Acrobat (after conversion of the PS to PDF) can find it. This is true of both TTF or Type 1 fonts and even though the fonts are installed. What does one have to do??? Anyway, are there any plans to implement font embedding in PS output (and in PDF later), both for Type 1 and TTF fonts? IMO this is not a minor issue and I was surprised that Inkscape does not already support font embedding. Font subsetting would be great, too: otherwise you'll be limited to free fonts. Regards, -- O.L.

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SVG to PDF progress
by Martin Owens 15 May '06

15 May '06

Dear Inkscape, Everyone can now keep track of my progress here: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/drmo/svgtopdf/progress.txt And download here: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/drmo/svgtopdf/pdf.tar.bz2 Please do let me know if you find bugs and if you can see missing things in the to do, it's a rather preliminary assessment. Best Regards, Martin Owens -- #::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::# #::.. http://www.doctormo.co.uk/ ..::# #::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::#

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NEW: Zommed in rendering speedup
by Andrius Ramanauskas 15 May '06

15 May '06

As mentioned in some previous mail, I have finished rendering optimisation, which gives best results for zoomed in drawings with complex (multi-node) paths. Optimisation focus - eliminating cubicTo and LineTo nodes outside of visible area, so no unneeded calculations is needed and less memory is consumed (this avoids crashes which were occurring previously if zooming into a complex drawing). This can be improved even more (for example ArcTo nodes are not affected and is still slow if zoomed in; etc). This might affect all the rendering, so please report any broken rendering issues. Andrius

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Tangofied inkscape icon
by Andreas Nilsson 14 May '06

14 May '06

Hello everyone! Hope this is the right place to send this stuff. Here is a tangofied Inkscape-icon in the sizes scalable, 22 and 16. Been on my harddrive for quite a while now, but I figure you might have use for it. http://ramnet.se/~nisse/diverse/temp/inkscape-icon.tar.gz - Andreas

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debian package
by Khiraly 14 May '06

14 May '06

Hi! Maybe this is a little offtopic question, but there are any debian/ubuntu package from the recent cvs? (A src.deb would be perfect) (When I build from source, I dont have extension menus) Khiraly

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WEBFORM mailing-lists
by Hubert Kleis 14 May '06

14 May '06

Message from Inkscape submission form Please note, that the submitter may not read this list. CC your answer to the submitter name: Hubert Kleis email: info@...1275... submitted the following: I\'m following - and using Inkscape- now for a while and I\'m wondering what is happening to the mailing-list archieves. Nothing new since the 5th, and this in a period of finishing a version. Worried Hubert

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distcheck
by Aaron Spike 13 May '06

13 May '06

(I don't think this came through the first time.) In preparation for the upcoming release, I thought I'd try `make distcheck`. $ make -k distcheck make[1]: *** No rule to make target `make.dep', needed by `distdir'. make[1]: *** No rule to make target `make.files', needed by `distdir'. make[1]: *** No rule to make target `make.ofiles', needed by `distdir'. make[1]: Target `distdir' not remade because of errors. make: *** [distdir] Error 1 make: Target `distcheck' not remade because of errors. I know the solution for this first problem is to run mkfiles.pl and mkdep.pl, but I wonder if those scripts should be thrown into the autogen.sh or configure mix somehow. After I generate those files `make distcheck` produces the errors that can be found at: http://www.ekips.org/comp/inkscape/inx/distcheck/stderr.txt Aaron Spike

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Test Test
by Aaron Spike 13 May '06

13 May '06

Is this thing on? Aaron Spike

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NEW: INX additions
by Ted Gould 13 May '06

13 May '06

These have actually been in subversion for a while, but I'm just getting to documenting them. Sorry about that. - Parameter type "description". This parameter contains text for it's default value and will put that text in an autogui window. You can't set or get it, it is really only useful for adding text to a dialog. - Descriptions can be translated by using the XML node <_param/> - Effects can have a <menu-tip> node which contains the message that will be placed in the status bar when that menu item has the mouse over it. - Effects can have a <menu-name> node which will overwrite the name of the effect as the name in the submenu. --- Implemented in INX parsing, but not working --- - All parameters can have a "gui-description" attribute which will be the tooltip for that parameter. - All parameters can have a "scope" attribute that has three possible values: "user", "document" or "node". This sets where the value for the variable gets set. The default is "user", which is how parameters work today. In the future the settings will be written into a particular document, or nodes if appropriate. Wow, parameters are getting close to being feature complete :) --Ted PS - Yes, release notes are next :)

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Attn: Translators regarding Tutorials
by Joshua A. Andler 12 May '06

12 May '06

I have committed the re-generated svg versions of tutorials to SVN. I will be committing the changes to the Advanced and Calligraphy tutorials in the doc-docbook module shortly. All existing translations will need to be updated for those two tutorials (especially Calligraphy). I will send another message to the list after committing the docbook files to give the go ahead. There were also some recent updates to the Catalan tutorials submitted in SVG to the Patch tracker. It would be great to get updated text in the docbook module if possible so they can be re-generated (with updated header and footer). Also, I noticed that in the main inkscape module, we have a Russian translation for the "basic" tutorial. If that could be converted to docbook as well it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! -Josh

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Inkscape on Spanish / Inkscape en Español
by Juan Miguel Ramirez 12 May '06

12 May '06

First I want to thank you (developers, translators, designers, etc) for your brilliant effort to improve Inkscape. I'm a designer, member of differents free software associations like Iniciativa Focus <http://www.iniciativafocus.org> or Linux-Malaga <http://www.linux-malaga.org> who some time ago chose to bet for free software like present and future on the world of graphic's design. Until now i only have contributed to the inkscape's community with some works and designs and some presentations and workshops around Spain: 2ª Jornadas Tecnológicas Andaluzas de Software Libre <http://jtasl.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=52&Itemid=99>(How to begin to design with free software: Inkscape and Gimp), Congreso Hispalinux 2005 <http://congreso.hispalinux.es>(Collaborative design with Inkscape) and Jornadas de Software Libre de Linux Malaga 2006 <http://jornadas.linux-malaga.org> (How to begin to vectorial illustration and make websites and corporate identities with Inkscape). Even though i want to promote inkscape on spanish and help with this task. This is the cause i want to help not only the project itself but to look for more interested people (there is some volunteers on the spanish's mailing list). I would to do it officially through the website because do it apart it would harmful for all and this is all i propose: * Translate the entire website (there is some parts without translations): o Translate all the news (old an new) o Translate the FAQ o Translate all the documentation (nowdays there is only translated the tutorials that comes with the program) o Translate Tools Section * Translate the interface (nowdays it is at 100% but i think the new version has going to have new terms) * Translate the mailing list(there is a spanish's mailing list but when you, for example, have to register all the messages are on english) * Generate new content for the website: o Create new tutorials o Create a planet inkscape on spanish o Insert new screenshots o Insert new elements into the gallery (illustrations, designs, etc) * Improve Inkscape's website trying to do it more autonomous on certain aspect (for example users can upload new designs, news,etc even though has to be supervised by another) To do all this i need to know who are the people in charge of the differents sections (i think it would be useful to create a section with the differents names and mails to contact them) and begin to coordinate with them on how we can do all this. (some sections like galleries, screenshots, some tutorials, presentations,etc are already made) Regards, Juan Miguel Ramirez (yomizmo) And now on Spanish ... Y ahora en español ... En primer lugar agradecer a todos y cada uno de los desarrolladores, colaboradores, diseñadores, traductores, etc por vuestro brillante esfuerzo en mejorar Inkscape. Soy un diseñador, miembro de diferentes asociaciones relacionadas con el mundo del software libre como pueden ser Iniciativa Focus y Linux-Malaga que hace ya algún tiempo decidió apostar por el software libre como presente y futuro en el mundo del diseño gráfico. Lo poquito que he aportado hasta ahora a la comunidad de inkscape han sido algunas presentaciones y talleres sobre inkscape en diferentes eventos en España: 2ª Jornadas Tecnológicas Andaluzas de Software Libre <http://jtasl.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=52&Itemid=99>(Iniciación al diseño gráfico mediante software libre: Inkscape y Gimp), Congreso Hispalinux 2005 <http://congreso.hispalinux.es>(Diseño colaborativo con Inkscape) y Jornadas de Software Libre de Linux Malaga 2006 <http://jornadas.linux-malaga.org> (Iniciación a la ilustración vectorial y Creación de páginas webs e identidades corporativas con Inkscape). Sin embargo después de llevar un tiempo suscrito a la lista de correo de Inkscape en español me he dado cuenta de la necesidad de promover inkscape en mi lengua materna, el español, y ayudar a la comunidad de inkscape en ello. Por eso me he propuesto no sólo a ayudar al proyecto sino a buscar más personas interesadas en hacerlo para ir sumando día a día(hay algunos voluntarios en la lista de correo española). Me gustaría hacerlo de manera oficial a través de la web de inkscape puesto que hacerlo de manera independiente sería perjudicial para todos los usuarios y por ello propongo: * Traducir la web de inkscape completamente al castellano (hay partes sin traducir): o Traducir las noticias (las ya existentes y las que vayan apareciendo) o Traducir la FAQ al español o Traducir la documentación al español (tan sólo están los tutoriales que vienen con el programa) o Traducir la sección herramientas * Traducir la Interfaz al español (ahora mismo está traducido pero hablo pensando en la nueva version, la 0.44 que sé que trae nuevas novedades que habrá que traducir) * Traducir la lista de correo al castellano (ya existe una lista de correo en castellano pero por ejemplo los mensajes a la hora de suscribirte están en inglés) * Generar nuevo contenido para la web: o Crear nuevos tutoriales o Crear un planeta inkscape en español o Insertar nuevas capturas de pantalla o Insertar nuevos elementos en la galeria (ilustraciones, diseños, etc) * Mejorar la web de inkscape intentando hacerla lo más autónoma posible en ciertos aspectos(que los propios usuarios puedan subir diseños, noticias, etc aunque estas tengan que ser aprobadas por alguna persona) Para todo esto necesito saber quienes son las personas encargadas de las diferentes secciones (creo que sería interesante no sólo para mi, el crear una sección con las diferentes personas encargadas de las diferentes secciones y como contactar con ellas) y empezar a coordinarme con ellas cómo realizar todo este proceso. (algunas cosas como graficos para la galeria, capturas de pantalla y algunos tutoriales están ya hechos) Saludos, Juan Miguel Ramirez (yomizmo)

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] [Fwd: InkScape at LugRadio Live]
by Martin Owens 12 May '06

12 May '06

I'll attend :-) On Fri, 12 May 2006 08:31:56 +0100 , "Ben Fowler" <ben.the.mole@...400...> wrote: >On 11/05/06, Bryce Harrington <bryce@...1...> wrote: >> Anyone in the UK interested in organizing a booth for inkscape at this >> conference? > >> ----- Forwarded message from Matthew Revell <matt@...1274...> ----- >> >> Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 16:08:50 +0100 >> From: Matthew Revell <matt@...1274...> >> To: bryce@...1... >> Subject: InkScape at LugRadio Live >> >> Hello Bryce, >> >> I'm one of the guys behind LugRadio Live - the UK's community open source and free >> software event. We're holding it on 22 and 23 July in Wolverhampton, England. >> >> We'd like to have Libre Graphics area of the exhibition space. Does Inkscape have a UK >> team that could run an exhibition stand at the event? Exhbition space is free of charge. > >You can certainly count on me. I'm guessing that this is a 'Libre >Graphics' event/exhibition/stand and Inkscape is invited as part of >it. It is to be hoped that some of their artwork (even if not the name >badge) could be done in Inkscape. See >http://lancaster.lug.org.uk/modules.php?name=Guiki&MODE=SHOW&PAGE=Lug%20Pos… >http://www.mec.cf.ac.uk/~vlado/laura_cd/README.txt >http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Required_PDF_Support >(I've a feeling that many people printing at A3 or bigger, render to >printer resolution bit maps and print those) > >Who else is available? > >Ben > > >------------------------------------------------------- >Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? >Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier >Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo >http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid0709&bid&3057&dat1642 >_______________________________________________ >Inkscape-devel mailing list >Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel > > -- #::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::# #::.. http://www.doctormo.co.uk/ ..::# #::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::#

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Signed vs Unsigned warnings in removeoverlap
by Ben Fowler 12 May '06

12 May '06

I get these warnings: ../../src/removeoverlap/remove_rectangle_overlap.cpp: In function `void removeRectangleOverlap(unsigned int, Rectangle**, double, double)': ../../src/removeoverlap/remove_rectangle_overlap.cpp:43: warning: comparison of unsigned expression >= 0 is always true ../../src/removeoverlap/remove_rectangle_overlap.cpp:49: warning: comparison between signed and unsigned integer expressions ../../src/removeoverlap/remove_rectangle_overlap.cpp:55: warning: comparison between signed and unsigned integer expressions ../../src/removeoverlap/remove_rectangle_overlap.cpp:65: warning: comparison between signed and unsigned integer expressions ../../src/removeoverlap/remove_rectangle_overlap.cpp:83: warning: comparison between signed and unsigned integer expressions ../../src/removeoverlap/remove_rectangle_overlap.cpp:105: warning: comparison between signed and unsigned integer expressions ../../src/removeoverlap/remove_rectangle_overlap.cpp:112: warning: comparison between signed and unsigned integer expressions ../../src/removeoverlap/solve_VPSC.cpp: In member function `void VPSC::refine()': ../../src/removeoverlap/solve_VPSC.cpp:99: warning: comparison of unsigned expression >= 0 is always true and enclose this simple patch - I have no way of checking that this is correct

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[Fwd: InkScape at LugRadio Live]
by Bryce Harrington 12 May '06

12 May '06

Anyone in the UK interested in organizing a booth for inkscape at this conference? Bryce ----- Forwarded message from Matthew Revell <matt@...1274...> ----- Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 16:08:50 +0100 From: Matthew Revell <matt@...1274...> To: bryce@...1... Subject: InkScape at LugRadio Live Hello Bryce, I'm one of the guys behind LugRadio Live - the UK's community open source and free software event. We're holding it on 22 and 23 July in Wolverhampton, England. We'd like to have Libre Graphics area of the exhibition space. Does Inkscape have a UK team that could run an exhibition stand at the event? Exhbition space is free of charge. You can find out more at www.lugradio.org/live -- Matthew Revell www.understated.co.uk ----- End forwarded message -----

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Renderserver / Shared Object
by Stefan de Konink 11 May '06

11 May '06

Hello, I'm actively using Inkscape to render my cable-text TV newspaper. I want to shrink the application layer needed for it. Starting with the biggest application Inkscape. Is anything done on making the render part of inkscape into a shared object that can be used in an other application? I'm not looking for other SVG implementations because of the superb support of textwrapping in Inkscape. My first project is to put all dependencies of sp_export_png_file into a renderserver that allows me to have an application sleeping instead of startingup foreach svg file I want to convert. Eventually getting the Inkscape SVG renderer into Ambulant (a SMIL player), so I don't need intermediate files, then again, cache can be quite handy. Yours Sincerely, Stefan de Konink

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Inkscape always crashes when "About Inkscape" menu item is clicked.
by 杨劲松 11 May '06

11 May '06

I'm using Slackware with Dropline GNOME. The Inkscape 0.43 crashes every time when "About Inkscape" is clicked. And display a dialog with message: ---------- "Inkscape encountered an internal error and will close now." --------- Run it in console, it display: ---------- shannleon@...1273...[inkscape-0.43]$ inkscape Emergency save activated! Emergency save completed. Inkscape will close now. If you can reproduce this crash, please file a bug at www.inkscape.org with a detailed description of the steps leading to the crash, so we can fix it. ---------- So, I download the source from sourceforge. ./configure --prefix=/home/shannleon/inkscape ; make -j4 It products same error. BTW, the zh_CN po file should be removed from the source. Because most strings have no translated. And the translation remains are totally wrong. Yang Jinsong -- 『白雪飘兮轻若絮，生如梦兮淡若云』

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0.44 Status update
by Bryce Harrington 11 May '06

11 May '06

Heya all, We are in a preliminary feature freeze, or "FEATURE FROST". This means that ONLY work on bugs and the features listed below should be done. If you wish to work on a new feature, please do this on a branch or with the patch tracker. We're now getting ready to start putting out pre-release packages for testing. -pre0 will be out within a matter of days. The full feature freeze may come as early as the 15th. If you are doing development work, please plan on getting it wrapped up and ready for release this weekend. We are planning to have a relatively short bug fix period this time, so if your feature is not likely to be ready by the 15th, let's discuss it now so we can determine whether to put the feature on hold, push back the feature freeze, or whatever. Can you please review the list below, and reply with an update on them? (Especially if you're listed for multiple items.) Bryce Current Feature Work ICC Preview =========== Jon Cruz is working on this. Plans to have feature to a finished point for the release. * Update Release Notes CMYK support ============ Jon Cruz is working on this. Plans to have feature to a finished point for the release. * Update Release Notes ArtLibre named icon and cursor loading ====================================== Jon Cruz is working on this. Plans to have feature to a finished point for the release. * Update Release Notes Palette editing and per-file color sets ======================================= Jon Cruz is working on this. Plans to have feature to a finished point for the release. * Update Release Notes Tablet Bugs =========== MentalGuy is working on this. Says for the release he wants to get these resolved. Something drops tablet motion events on the floor while the button is held down. This occurs for some tools, but not with others. The bugs are quite annoying but weird. They don't affect all tablet users. 4/29 - Still underway Brush size adjustment on zoom toggle for calligraphic pen - DONE ========================================================= MentalGuy is working on this and plans to have it to a finished point for the release. 5/1 - Mental reports this has been completed Layer dialog ============ This is an important feature for the release, and on MentalGuy's todo list. However, work has been stuck getting Inkscape::LayerManager to compile due to a subtle detail with sigc::mem_fun(), and it's uncertain if there is sufficient time to unstick it and finish the feature prior to the release. Additional people's help may be needed here. [Beyond the memory issue, are there other aspects to the layer dialog that others could help with, such as UI work or coding helper features or whatever? --bh] * Update Release Notes 4/29 - Still under way Fit Canvas to Selection - DONE ======================= This is a feature ACSpike has been working on, and plans to complete for the release. The patch is here: http://www.ekips.org/comp/inkscape/inx/current.diff ODG Format Support ================== Ishmal is working on this currently. Help is needed from someone who knows inkscape gradients, such as mental or bulia. He needs to know how to read gradient info from an SPGradient object. DOM Support =========== Ishmal has been working on this. The newest code is all imported and builds. [Is there anything else needing to be done prior to release?] SIOX Support ============ Ishmal has this over half done. The code is all imported and building, and the selection mechanism is now done. Getting Inkscape and SIOX intercommunication working, but this can be built as a filter to potrace, which simplifies things. The transformation issues reported previously have been sorted out, using a "confidence matrix". Extensions ========== Ted is focusing on cleaning up extension parameters and felt he'd have this wrapped up by the end of the month. The plan is to have longer text (tool tips) available, and a few more widgets. More spacing in the autogui will be added to make it look nicer. * Ted reports there is an unverified bug in the ordering of the effects in the menu, to be investigated. The Extension Editor is further off, and not being planned for this release. 5/1 - Ted reports the feature is not yet working, but feels it shouldn't be a problem to get it fixed in the next couple weeks. Snapping ======== Ralf is coming up to speed on this issue. Hopefully Carl can also shed light on things. On 4/26 Carl said he hopes to have a look at it over the coming week. * Need to fix the freeze when dragging multiple selected objects: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1429049&group_id=9… * Update Release Notes Rendering Performance Speedup - DONE ============================= Andrius has a very interesting rendering speedup patch. The feature is complete and accepted for the release. There is one known issue to address with scrolling, but Andrius feels this can be fixed. 4/30 - Andrius reports this is now done, and no other issues are known. Screenshots =========== Scislac has taken this task on, and plans to have it done for the release. Two screenshots are done currently, and one more is in the works. There will be a call for more screenshots on the Deviant Art site. Tutorials ========= Calligraphy is mostly done, and a few of the other updates to the other tutorials have been drafted but that stuff definitely needs more work. Should be possible to have them done by the end of April. Man page should be current. Bulia will update keys.xml shortly. Note: The sooner these can be finalized, the sooner translators can get going on them. 5/1 - ScislaC says a lot of progress was made over the weekend, but has run into some errors regenerating the svgs & html Calligraphic interface tweak - DONE ============================ Bulia is working on this change requested by MentalGuy, and feels they are minor and should have no trouble completing for the release. Windows font handling bugfixes - DONE ============================== Richard (cyreve) has completed these bug fixes and updated the release notes. * Update ReleaseNotes Python Extensions on Windows ============================ !!! No owner has been identified for this task !!! Bulia reports that extensions that rely on PyXML still do not work on Windows. Due to the number of python extensions, this would be a major missing feature for Windows users. Text/Fonts UI ============= deadchip (aka Milosz Derezynski <internalerror at gmail dot com>) has written a font lister Gtkmm class, to enable re-use of the font list. He is planning to write a font picker dialog, and rewrite the current font picker to use the font _listing_ class. This enables using normal Gtk components (ListStore, etc.) for accessing the font info. He plans to have this work done by May 1st, or May 15th at the latest. Windows "dialogs on top" Patch for GTK ====================================== !!! No owner has been identified for this task !!! This is not exactly an Inkscape-specific problem, since the code changes wouldn't be to Inkscape, but it would be nice to have it finally fixed. This 0.44 release effort may be a good vehicle to tie it to, but we won't hold up the release if it doesn't get done. Scislac had contacted the author previously. * Send a reminder email to the author to find status on this Undo/Redo Dialog - HOLD ================ Gustav Broberg (broberg at kth dot se) is planning to try to get the changes Mental suggested prior to the Feature Freeze. We have a patch for this. Also needed is undo annotations. 4/30 - Gustav reports that due to more changes required than expected, this feature will be postponed until the next release. New File Chooser in Export - DONE ========================== We have a patch for this, but there were some thoughts of embedding it in the export dialog directly. In the spirit of "patch first, discuss later", the best approach may be to stick in the current patch for 0.44, see what folks think, and do the embedding later. Test Harness ============ Bryce is working on getting 'make test' working in the test harness. He plans to have this working by the feature freeze date. Additional Release Tasks ======================== The following tasks will need to be done for the release, but are not required to be done prior to the Feature Freeze: * Identify the list of must-fix bugs. To keep the freeze phase from dragging out, we will need to be very choosy in what we allow to be must-fix bugs. * Set up a ReleaseChecklist wiki page or similar to keep track of The List. * Designate 2 release maintainers. * Keep and update the above list and encourage people to achieve completion of the items. * Notify translators to complete translation work * Wiki updates + Update Roadmap + Review/Update FAQ + Update InkscapeFeatures * PR / marketing efforts + Plan efforts + Draft press release + Finalize press release + Send out press release [rejon] + DeviantArt PR [ScislaC] * Packaging

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effects, Windows, prerelease
by bulia byak 11 May '06

11 May '06

As someone suggested, my problem of effects not working on Windows was indeed due to another Python installed in the PATH. After I removed that, it picked up Inkscape's own python and all worked fine. Therefore, I suggest that we do three things: 1. Designate this as a mustfix bug for the release: Inkscape must always use its own python, not something in PATH. Certainly I'm not the only one with Python installed on Windows, so this issue is bound to happen to other people. 2. Enable extensions/effects by default and remove the prefs setting. I don't know of anything that prevents us from doing that. 3. Release a 0.44pre0. Thoughts? -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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Tutorials
by Joshua A. Andler 11 May '06

11 May '06

Okay, I've committed the updated Calligraphy & Advanced tutorials in the docbook module and they should be ready for translation updates. If there are any questions on language or terminology (or if you find mistakes/errors), please let me know. I do plan on re-generating the tracing tutorial as soon as I can figure out the problem. Ishmal, if possible could you give me a quick rundown on how SIOX works in Inkscape so I could add that to the tutorial prior to committing? Other than wanting to add SIOX to the tracing tutorial, the only other major change wrt tutorials will be the addition of a new tutorial that covers clipping, masking, and patterns. -Josh

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[Bug] Ruler marker does not match cursor
by Mason Thomas 11 May '06

11 May '06

Hi, I have entered a bug in the sourceforge tracker (#1486221) and am also posting it to the list as a courtesy. The ruler markers (little arrows on the rulers that indicate the present cursor position) do not line up with the cursor--when you turn off the scroll bars (Ctrl-B). The markers still seem to retain the correct numerical value for the cursor position on the canvas, but they don't actually line up with the cursor on-screen. -Mason

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] effects, Windows, prerelease
by Martin Owens 11 May '06

11 May '06

I don't believe the extentions are powerful enough or stable enough yet, they work very well for the odd export/inport filter but for editing objects? for managing svg in particular ways? for having extenstable options like drop downs ect? I think we should concentrate on getting the extentions to have a nice round api in perl/python/myscripting, where inkscape knows to pass in one objects svg fragment and knows to expect a fragment back, then it knows that to edit that 'object' it calls back to the scripts in a certain way (obviouly what classes as an object being held in the inkscape namespace and all the objects being valid svg). On Wed, 10 May 2006 21:46:58 -0400 , "bulia byak" <buliabyak@...400...> wrote: >As someone suggested, my problem of effects not working on Windows was >indeed due to another Python installed in the PATH. After I removed >that, it picked up Inkscape's own python and all worked fine. > >Therefore, I suggest that we do three things: > >1. Designate this as a mustfix bug for the release: Inkscape must >always use its own python, not something in PATH. Certainly I'm not >the only one with Python installed on Windows, so this issue is bound >to happen to other people. > >2. Enable extensions/effects by default and remove the prefs setting. >I don't know of anything that prevents us from doing that. > >3. Release a 0.44pre0. > >Thoughts? > >-- >bulia byak >Inkscape. Draw Freely. >http://www.inkscape.org > > >------------------------------------------------------- >Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? >Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier >Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo >http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid0709&bid&3057&dat1642 >_______________________________________________ >Inkscape-devel mailing list >Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel > > -- #::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::# #::.. http://www.doctormo.co.uk/ ..::# #::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::#

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fixed window size and tools toolbar
by Alexandre Prokoudine 11 May '06

11 May '06

Hi, Probably I should split this email into two emails, but here it goes :) 1. Is there any particular reason for having fixed minimum size of Inkscape's window? For example, when Commands toolbar is hidden, Inkscape still thinks it's shown and makes it impossible to decrease width of the window. As a result, here the minimum width of window is 948 px, which may be okay for regular using (not in all cases), but clearly not okay for screenshots in documentation (think about screenshooting toolbars). Is it limitation of Gtk toolbars in common? Will splitting Commands toolbar into two or more mini-toolbars help? 2. There is a wasted space between toolbar's handle and the first item in Tools toolbar (the context sensitive one), see attached screenshot. That doesn't happen in case of Selector. Can we do something about it? Alexandre

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'make check'
by Ben Fowler 11 May '06

11 May '06

I get this message: Testing removeRectangleOverlap(zero gaps)... eg0...OK eg2...OK eg3...OK eg4...OK eg5...OK olap6...OK loop0...OK loop1...OK loop2...OK random ints with 0 rectangles...OK random ints with 1 rectangles...OK random ints with 2 rectangles...OK random ints with 3 rectangles...OK random ints with 4 rectangles...OK random ints with 5 rectangles...OK random ints with 6 rectangles...FAIL: removeoverlap/remove_rectangle_overlap-test Is it worth sending such a report to this list. 'make check' did not report any problems lst time I ran it. The tests with the 'random ints' actually take a bit longer than any of the others and sometimes I get a message about an Alarm Clock. Does this indicate something fixable at my end, or a possible problem with the testing system... Or anything in particular? Ben

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WEBFORM live bookmarks / rss
by pbhj 10 May '06

10 May '06

Message from Inkscape submission form Please note, that the submitter may not read this list. CC your answer to the submitter name: pbhj email: inkscape@...1029...%0Acc:pbhj@...19... submitted the following: RSS feed, great! No <link> in page header makes it v.hard for Firefox users to add a livemark though. <link rel=\"alternate\" type=\"application/rss+xml\" title=\"inkscape news\" href=\"/inkscape.rss\" /> Cheers pbhj

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Re: [Inkscape-translator] Installer localization
by Arpad Biro 10 May '06

10 May '06

Hi, Xavier: > I have some questions about the translation of tutorials for > Inkscape. > My team translated the SVG documents recently. We know the right way > is to translate them on XML format, but we needed them on SVG in > order to integrate them on a Windows package we deployed. > We are going to move them to the XML tutorials, however I > submitted the SVGs some months ago through the patch tracker > but they haven't been accepted yet. I'm not sure if you don't > accept SVG tutorials anymore (thus forcing to port them to > XML, which anyway I think is the correct way) > or if you just didn't saw them. Does anyone have current info on this? I'm not sure whether the XML/SVG info on page http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/TranslationInformation is still valid or not. Can/should we still commit SVG tutorial files directly to SVN? Arpad Biro __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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SVG Open 2006
by Joshua A. Andler 10 May '06

10 May '06

I was looking to start planning my trip to Victoria and visited http://www.svgopen.org/ and saw a change in dates. I didn't see anyone else mention it on the list, so here goes... SVG Open has been postponed to October 16-19 in favor of a significantly better venue. I'm not sure who plans to go other than myself, so I figured I would share anyway. As for anyone else who is planning on going, we should probably start to try and figure out some basics. It's probably not too early to discuss such things (I'd like to at least know what others are planning on). -Josh

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WEBFORM RSS feed broken?
by Gregor 10 May '06

10 May '06

Message from Inkscape submission form Please note, that the submitter may not read this list. CC your answer to the submitter name: Gregor email: gregordynetech@...36... submitted the following: The inkscape site\'s RSS feed does not appear to be working correctly (the last news item it contains was on January 21st, and there have been several on the site since then). Just thought you should know.

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RSS feed not synced with website news
by Luca Bruno 10 May '06

10 May '06

Hi all, I've just noticed that the RSS feed for inkscape.org[1] isn't synced with latest news on the website. It's currently missing at least latest post by rejon. Can anyone please check why and fix it? I remember the feed-generator script is called from a cron (which?), maybe the problem is there or in the switch between CVS and SVN repo... Greetings, Luca [1] http://www.inkscape.org/inkscape.rss -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Luca Bruno : :' : The Universal O.S. | luca.br(AT)uno.it `. `'` | GPG Key ID: 3BFB9FB3 `- http://www.debian.org | Proud Debian GNU/Linux User

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Kool hack, KDE filechoosers in Inkscape
by Alan Horkan 10 May '06

10 May '06

In case anyone asks again for a KDE file chooser in Inkscape (like Sodipodi used to have) I thought I should point out this cool hack: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=360771 "quick-and-dirty LD_PRELOAD hack that allows *some* Gtk applications to use KDE's file dialogs when run under KDE" ... "4. Inkscape. Works OK - at least 0.43" -- Alan

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more on inkscape dialogs
by Jonathon Jongsma 10 May '06

10 May '06

Can anybody give me the quick 2-minute overview on the relationship between the files in ./src/dialogs/ and the files in ./src/ui/dialog/ ? I know that ./src/ui/dialog/ contains a dialog manager of some sort, but the individual dialogs themselves are pretty skeletal, and the implementations of them seem to be in ./src/dialogs/. Obviously the ./src/ui/dialog stuff is newer since it's all namespaced and gtkmm-ified, whereas the stuff in ./src/dialogs is mostly C/GTK+ and non-namespace qualified. Is the intention to move the implementation stuff from ./src/dialogs into the classes in ./src/ui/dialog, or is the separation intentional? Speaking as a relative newcomer, it's a bit confusing to understand how these things all work together at first. thanks in advance, Jonner

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Multiple SoC Filters
by Aaron Spike 10 May '06

10 May '06

There are multiple student submitted proposals for implementing SVG Filters. This is a HUGE feature for us. Is there any possibility of breaking the implementation plan into bits so that two students could work on different parts of the problem? Aaron Spike

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Summer of Code Proposals
by Bryce Harrington 09 May '06

09 May '06

There's been some curiousity about how many proposals were received, topics proposed, etc. etc. I think we need to respect the confidentiality of the process and the students, so we don't want to post the rankings nor the names of the students, however I think it's probably safe to list the titles of the proposals themselves, to help address the basic questions: Adding bitmap processing to InkScape Application for 'memory optimization' and 'bitmap capabilities' Application proposal Automatic kerning for text on path in Inkscape Bucket fill Filter Effects Gtkmm-ification of Inkscape Improving Python Effects API Inkboard Protocol Spec / Lib Conversion Inkscape / GIMP Bitmap Editing Integration Memory Optimization Memory Optimization New Grids PDF Export Extension PDF export capability for Inkscape Proposal for SOC06 Proposal for implementing colour definitions, as well as management of gradients and patterns SVG Filters SVG filters Standalone palette editor Support for SVG Filters Text Tool Improvements There are a number of factors that will go into determining which are selected, but ultimately the choice is going to be made by those participating in the mentorship process. If you are qualified and willing to serve as an Inkscape mentor, you can participate in the ranking process as well; contact me offlist to work out the details. Bryce

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killing gristle
by Aaron Spike 09 May '06

09 May '06

So our recent inkboard excitement is having nevative effects on gristle. What can we do? I was thinking we should schedule a little debugging session with dmandell, but the outages have prevented me from contacting him. Aaron Spike

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dialogs without decoration
by Aaron Spike 09 May '06

09 May '06

Simon Budig (the guy who wrote the curve draging that we stole from GIMP) popped into IRC this morning because his document preferences dialog comes up with out decoration. http://www.home.unix-ag.org/simon/files/inkscape-problem.jpg After tapping F12 it comes back with decoration. Does anyone else using the sawfish window manager experiences this? He also mentioned that his dialogs appear on the screen in one place and seem to jerk away into position. This I can confirm on WinXP. And it seems that my dialogs here are not saving their positions across sessions, but I need to check that a few more times to be sure. Aaron Spike

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] SVG Open 2006
by John Taber 09 May '06

09 May '06

Jon A. Cruz wrote: > > On May 8, 2006, at 5:10 PM, John Taber wrote: > >> Josh, >> Kurt Cagle who is coordinating the conference has indicated he would >> like to have an entire Inkscape session so anyone thinking of going >> and would like to present should put together an abstract and send it >> in (note abstract acceptance dates have also been pushed back). An >> inkboard demo might be very cool. > > > I'm interested. Any ideas on how best to get a submission accepted? > > Jon, check out the svgopen.org website - there should be instructions or just email abstract to Kurt.

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whiteboard on windows
by Aaron Spike 09 May '06

09 May '06

I've just uploaded a new library bundle: http://inkscape.modevia.com/win32libs/gtk28-060505.7z and committed the changes to the makefiles that gets inkboard building by default on windows. I think we should disable whiteboard in this release and provide an unofficial build with it enabled for those who are adventurous but why not play with it now. :-) You'll need to do a `make clean` again. Sorry. Aaron Spike

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Ctrl+scaling broken
by bulia byak 09 May '06

09 May '06

Latest svn has ctrl+scaling (to preserve aspect ratio) broken. Carl, this looks like a side effect of your snapping changes, can you please look into it? I'm reporting it here because it's a rather major breakage that needs to be fixed ASAP. -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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Snapping nodes broken in SVN
by Tavmjong Bah 09 May '06

09 May '06

Hi, In the latest SVN (11646) snapping nodes to the grid or to guidelines is broken. A "snapped" node is moved to a very large position in x and y. Tav

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make check link order
by Aaron Spike 09 May '06

09 May '06

I too would like to join in all of the 'make check'ing fun. But I recieve the following set of errors. Jon Cruz suggested that it mighte be a link order problem. Who can tell me how to set about fixing it? Aaron Spike svg/libspsvg.a(svg-affine.o): In function `sp_svg_transform_read(char const*, NR::Matrix*)': svg/svg-affine.cpp:132: undefined reference to `operator*(NR::rotate const&, NR::Matrix const&)' xml/libspxml.a(repr-io.o): In function `XmlSource::read(char*, int)': xml/repr-io.cpp:128: undefined reference to `Inkscape::IO::UriInputStream::UriInputStream(_IO_FILE*, Inkscape::URI&)' xml/repr-io.cpp:129: undefined reference to `Inkscape::IO::GzipInputStream::GzipInputStream(Inkscape::IO::InputStream&)' xml/libspxml.a(repr-io.o): In function `sp_repr_save_stream(Inkscape::XML::Document*, _IO_FILE*, char const*, bool)': xml/repr-io.cpp:483: undefined reference to `Inkscape::IO::UriOutputStream::UriOutputStream(_IO_FILE*, Inkscape::URI&)' xml/repr-io.cpp:484: undefined reference to `Inkscape::IO::GzipOutputStream::GzipOutputStream(Inkscape::IO::OutputStream&)' xml/repr-io.cpp:516: undefined reference to `Inkscape::IO::UriOutputStream::~UriOutputStream()' xml/repr-io.cpp:516: undefined reference to `Inkscape::IO::UriOutputStream::~UriOutputStream()' util/libinkutil.a(units.o): In function `UnitsSAXHandler': util/units.cpp:20: undefined reference to `Inkscape::IO::FlatSaxHandler::FlatSaxHandler()' util/libinkutil.a(units.o): In function `Inkscape::Util::UnitTable::load(Glib::ustring const&)': util/units.cpp:228: undefined reference to `Inkscape::IO::SaxHandler::parseFile(char const*)' util/libinkutil.a(units.o): In function `~UnitsSAXHandler': util/units.cpp:21: undefined reference to `Inkscape::IO::FlatSaxHandler::~FlatSaxHandler()' util/libinkutil.a(units.o): In function `Inkscape::Util::UnitTable::load(Glib::ustring const&)': util/units.cpp:21: undefined reference to `Inkscape::IO::FlatSaxHandler::~FlatSaxHandler()' util/units.cpp:21: undefined reference to `Inkscape::IO::FlatSaxHandler::~FlatSaxHandler()' util/libinkutil.a(units.o):(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTIN8Inkscape4Util15UnitsSAXHandlerE[typeinfo for Inkscape::Util::UnitsSAXHandler]+0x8): undefined reference to `typeinfo for Inkscape::IO::FlatSaxHandler' util/libinkutil.a(units.o):(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTVN8Inkscape4Util15UnitsSAXHandlerE[vtable for Inkscape::Util::UnitsSAXHandler]+0x20): undefined reference to `Inkscape::IO::FlatSaxHandler::_characters(unsigned char const*, int)' util/libinkutil.a(units.o): In function `~UnitsSAXHandler': util/units.cpp:21: undefined reference to `Inkscape::IO::FlatSaxHandler::~FlatSaxHandler()' util/units.cpp:21: undefined reference to `Inkscape::IO::FlatSaxHandler::~FlatSaxHandler()' util/units.cpp:21: undefined reference to `Inkscape::IO::FlatSaxHandler::~FlatSaxHandler()' util/units.cpp:21: undefined reference to `Inkscape::IO::FlatSaxHandler::~FlatSaxHandler()' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

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Windows Console App
by Brian Bradford 08 May '06

08 May '06

Could someone please provide me with the version compiled as a Windows console application? I would appreciate it very much. Thank you for you time, Brian brian.bradford@...1268...

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Greetings from SoC applicant
by Niko Kiirala 08 May '06

08 May '06

Hi all. I am posting here for I am applying for a Google Summer of Code project on Inkscape. My proposal is to implement filter effects to Inkscape. (for more details, please see http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/kiirala/soc_fe.html ) Bulia Byak, you asked for some C++ code. Here's one project I have done: http://niko.kiirala.com/polygoni.tar.bz2 (maybe not too good a project to show off: it may need minor modifications to compile - though on my computer it did compile. Also, originally it was written for directdraw on 32-bit computer, now it works with sdl on 64-bit computer. And it has lots of Finnish...) -- Niko Kiirala niko@...1267... http://niko.kiirala.com/

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Perl and IRC
by Martin Owens 08 May '06

08 May '06

IRC is playing up with the ^_ user, keeps logging on and off again. And I wish for someone with perl background to view work so far to make sure I'm going in the right direction. -- #::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::# #::.. http://www.doctormo.co.uk/ ..::# #::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::#

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WEBFORM My homepage
by Howard 08 May '06

08 May '06

Message from Inkscape submission form Please note, that the submitter may not read this list. CC your answer to the submitter name: Howard email: rhonda@...400... submitted the following: Thank you! http://ftatfvfi.com/qelo/fzxt.html | http://uzkiiaru.com/qxde/ibzz.html

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WEBFORM My homepage
by Cindy 08 May '06

08 May '06

Message from Inkscape submission form Please note, that the submitter may not read this list. CC your answer to the submitter name: Cindy email: kevin@...36... submitted the following: Great work! <a href=\"http://ftatfvfi.com/qelo/fzxt.html\">My homepage</a> | <a href=\"http://txtmolsn.com/wqtc/hswi.html\">Please visit</a>

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WEBFORM My homepage
by Carl 08 May '06

08 May '06

Message from Inkscape submission form Please note, that the submitter may not read this list. CC your answer to the submitter name: Carl email: mike@...1266... submitted the following: Well done! [url=http://ftatfvfi.com/qelo/fzxt.html]My homepage[/url] | [url=http://eyoevhrn.com/oqch/ohrx.html]Cool site[/url]

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NEW: translateable header/footer in tutorials
by bulia byak 06 May '06

06 May '06

- To make it easier for newbies to navigate in the SVG tutorials, marginal hints are added In the header and footer saying "Use Ctrl+down/up arrow to scroll" with the corresponding arrow. - The SVG files with the tutorial header and footer, including the scrolling hint, are now translateable (i.e. you can translate the word "tutorial" and the scrolling hints). Just add the SVG files _tutorial-header.XX.svg and _tutorial-footer.XX.svg and regenerate the tutorials - they will use these files. (If there are no such files for your language, the default English header/footer are used.) So far, French header/footer SVG files are added, translators are welcome to add more languages. [Scislac: this means that all SVG tutorials in all languages now need to be regenerated and reuploaded to Inkscape tree!] As a remainder, all the tutorials machinery is in the doc-docbook module in SVN. -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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Compile Problems (OS X 10.3)
by Brian 06 May '06

06 May '06

I am having a few issues compiling Inkscape. My intent is to implement Flash export functionality. I set up a custom Fink environment just for Inkscape. When I compile the version from the svn I get: gradient-drag.cpp: In member function `void GrDragger::updateTip()': gradient-drag.cpp:662: error: `ngettext' undeclared (first use this function) gradient-drag.cpp:662: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in.) I've tried this using both gettext-dev and gettext3-dev i gettext 0.10.40-24 Message localization support i gettext-bin 0.14.2-13 GNU Internationalization utilities i gettext-tools 0.14.2-13 GNU Internationalization utilities (Development Tools) i libgettext3-dev 0.14.2-13 GNU Internationalization utilities (Development Files) i libgettext3-shlibs 0.14.2-13 GNU Internationalization utils (shared libs) I've also installed a stand-alone installation of gettext 0.14.5 --- Inkscape .43 tarball: I figured i'd take a stab at the .43 release to see if by chance something got mucked up on the SVN server. Configure runs happily, when I try compiling I get this: object-edit.cpp: In function `void sp_spiral_outer_set(SPItem*, const NR::Point&, const NR::Point&, unsigned int)': object-edit.cpp:941: error: `isfinite' undeclared in namespace `std' Anyone have any ideas? The ngettext test passes just fine in the configure script. Thanks, Brian

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Google SoC: GTK+ 2.9.0 released
by unknown＠example.com 06 May '06

06 May '06

I forwarded the message just to show I'm not crazy :) The GTK+ folks have the goal of GTK+ 2.10 supporting cross platform printing, like gnome-print++. I would love to see someone write a GTK+ 2.10 print plugin for Inkscape. --Ted ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 05 May 2006 13:11:30 -0400 From: Matthias Clasen <mclasen@...43...> Reply-To: gnome-hackers@...45... To: gnome-announce-list@...45..., gtk-devel-list@...45..., gtk-app-devel-list@...45..., gtk-list@...45... Subject: GTK+ 2.9.0 released GTK+ 2.9.0 is now available for download at: ftp://ftp.gtk.org/pub/gtk/v2.9/ http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/gtk+/2.9/ gtk+-2.9.0.tar.gz md5sum: c11a4127073b34f0b78c1a7f7a86aaa0 gtk+-2.9.0.tar.bz2 md5sum: a248f792e196d7a916626f5e0eff4e20 This is the first development release leading up to GTK+ 2.10. Notes: * This is unstable development release. There are certainly plenty of bugs remaining to be found. This release should not be used in production. * Installing this version will overwrite your existing copy of GTK+ 2.8. If you have problems, you'll need to reinstall GTK+ 2.8. * GTK+ 2.10 will be source compatible with the GTK+ 2.8 series; the new API additions in GTK+ 2.9.0 are not yet finalized, so there are likely incompatibilies between this release and the final 2.10 release. * The ABI version has been bumped from 2.4.0 to 2.10.0, since the filechooser backend interface has been changed. Third-party filechooser backends need to be ported to the new interface. Other third-party modules (input methods, image loaders, etc) just need to be reinstalled in the proper location for GTK+ to find them. * Remaining issues for GTK+ 2.10 can be found with following bugzilla query: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?product=gtk% 2b&target_milestone=2.10+API+Freeze&target_milestone=2.10 +Freeze&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED * Bugs should be reported to http://bugzilla.gnome.org. What is GTK+ ============ GTK+ is a multi-platform toolkit for creating graphical user interfaces. Offering a complete set of widgets, GTK+ is suitable for projects ranging from small one-off tools to complete application suites. GTK+ has been designed from the ground up to support a range of languages, not only C/C++. Using GTK+ from languages such as Perl and Python (especially in combination with the Glade GUI builder) provides an effective method of rapid application development. GTK+ is free software and part of the GNU Project. However, the licensing terms for GTK+, the GNU LGPL, allow it to be used by all developers, including those developing proprietary software, without any license fees or royalties. Where to get more information about GTK+ ======================================== Information about GTK+ including links to documentation can be found at: http://www.gtk.org/ An installation guide for GTK+ 2.x is found at: http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.4/gtk/gtk-building.html Common questions: http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.4/gtk/gtk-question-index.html http://www.gtk.org/faq/ Overview of Changes from GTK+ 2.8.x to 2.9.0 ============================================ * GtkStatusIcon, a cross-platform "tray icon" API * GtkAssistant, a widget for creating multi-step wizards * GtkLinkButton, a widget that displays a clickable hyperlink * GtkRecentChooser, widgets to display and select recently used files * GtkPrintOperation, cross-platform printing support * A framework for rich text copy and paste and DND * GtkCellRendererAccel, a cell renderer for key combinations * GtkCellRendererSpin, a cell renderer which edits numeric values using a spin button * GtkAction works with named icons in addition to stock icons * GtkNotebook supports DND, allowing to reorder tabs, move tabs between notebooks and drop tabs on the desktop to open a new window * GtkTreeView: - Enhanced customizability (e.g. grouping) with the show-expanders and level-indentation properties - Allow to embed the search popup - Better search popup positioning * GtkFileChooser: - Communication with backends is now asynchronous to avoid blocking on filesystem operations. Due to the required interface changes, the GTK+ ABI version has been bumped to 2.10.0. Third-party filesystem backends have to be ported to the new interface, other modules, such as theme engines, input method modules or pixbuf loaders have to be rebuilt so that they are installed in the right place for GTK+ to find them. - The location entry (popped up by C-L) has been integrated in the main dialog. * Reworked hex Unicode input now requires Ctrl-Shift-U * Animations can now be globally controlled by settings * The gtk-touchscreen-mode setting controls a number of changes that make GTK+ work better on touchscreens * Password entries can optionally show the last entered character for a short while, controlled by the password-hint-timeout setting * GTK+ can now consult an additional fallback icon theme before falling back to hicolor * Improved themability: - GTK+ supports symbolic colors, which can be set system-wide using a setting, and can be modified and used in rc files and theme engines - GTK+ sets window type hints on override-redirect windows to help compositing managers apply proper bling - Paths in rc files can now refer to all subclasses of a class - GtkRange steppers will appear insensitive when the slider is at the end; applications which need to handle this case (e.g. to extend the range) can opt out of this. - GtkRange::activate-slider style property allows themes to draw sliders differently while they are being dragged - GtkNotebook::tab-overlap and GtkNotebook::curvature style properties allow more flexible notebook theming - The spacing of buttons around children can be themed with the GtkButton::inner-border style property. Apps can override this per-widget using the corresponding inner-border property - GtkMenu has aquired a horizontal-padding style property - There are style properties for the color of hyperlinks, GtkWidget::link-color and GtkWidget::visited-link-color - GtkTreeview row hinting now takes the selection into account - Scrolling menus can be forced to always display both arrows, using the GtkMenu::double-arrows style property - Separators can be themed using the wide-separators, separator-width and separator-height style properties - GtkTreeView allows more flexible theming with the row-ending-details property - The pixbuf theme engines supports customized drawing of expanders and resize grips * GDK changes: - OS X backend - DirectFB backend - Closing displays works - gdk_screen_is_composited to check for running compositing manager - Support for Super, Hyper and Meta modifiers * gdk-pixbuf changes: - Supports saving tiff - Supports loading 16-bit pnm - Doesn't load entire gif animation to get first frame A list of all the bugs fixed in this release can be found at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=58389,59718,73240,74620,78545,… Thanks to all the people who contributed in some way to this release: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Akkana Peck, Alexander Larsson, Alexander Nedotuskov, Alex Graveley, Anders Carlsson, Andrei Yurkevich, Andrew Conkling, Andrew S. Dixon, Arjan van de Ven, Arnaud Charlet, Bastien Nocera, Behdad Esfahbod, Benedikt Meurer, Benjamin Berg, Benjamin Otte, Benoît Carpentier, Bodo-Merle Sandor, Bogdan Nicula, Brad Taylor, Calum Benson, Carlos Garnacho Parro, Carl Worth, Chris Lahey, Chris Lord, Christian Kirbach, Christian Lohmaier, Christian Neumair, Christian Persch, Christian Stimming, Christophe Belle, Claudio Saavedra, Clytie Siddall, Colin Walters, Cory Dodt, Coverity, Crispin Flowerday, Damien Carbery, Damon Chaplin, Daniel Drake, Daniel Kasak, Dan Winship, Dave Andreoli, David Baron, David Trowbridge, Davyd Madeley, Denis Auroux, Dennis Cranston, Diego González, Dom Lachowicz, Donald Straney, Duncan Coutts, Ed Catmur, Elie De Brauwer, Emmanuele Bassi, Emmanuel Rodriguez, Eric Cazeaux, Evert Verhellen, Francisco Javier F. Serrador, Frederic Croszat, Guilherme de S. Pastore, Guillaume Cottenceau, Gustavo Carneiro, Hamed Malek, Hans Breuer, Havoc Pennington, Hylke van der Schaaf, Ian McDonald, Itai Bar-Haim, Jaap A. Haitsma, James Su, Jean-Yves Lefort, Jens Granseuer, Jeremy Cook, Jody Goldberg, Joe Marcus Clarke, Joe Wreschnig, Johan Dahlin, John Cupitt, John Ehresman, John Finlay, John Palmieri, John Spray, Jonathan Blandford, Jorn Baayen, JP Rosevaar, Jürg Billeter, Kalle Vahlmann, Kathy Fernandez, Kazuki Iwamoto, Kean Johnston, Kjartan Maraas, Kristian Rietveld, Larry Ewing, Leena Gunda, Lillian Angel, Li Yuan, Lorenzo Gil Sanchez, Maciej Katafiasz, Magnus Bergmann, Markku Vire, Mark McLoughlin, Marko Anastasov, Mark Wielaard, Mart Raudsepp, Martyn Russell, Mathias Hasselmann, Matthijs Douze, Maxim Udushlivy, Michael Emmel, Michael Natterer, Milosz Derezynski, Morten Welinder, Murray Cumming, Nickolay V. Shmyrev, Nicolas Setton, Niklas Knutsson, Olexiy Avramchenko, Owen Taylor, Paolo Borelli, Paolo Maggi, Peter Breitenlohner, Peter Harvey, Peter Lund, Peter Zelezny, Philip Langdale, Raphael Slinckx, Ray Strode, Richard Hult, Robert Ögren, Rodney Dawes, Ross Burton, Ryan Lovett, Sadrul Habib Chowdhury, Sebastien Bacher, Søren Sandmann, Stanislav Brabec, Stefan Kost, Stephane Chauveau, Steve Chaplin, Steve Frécinaux, Sven Herzberg, Sven Neumann, Thomas Broyer, Thomas Fitzsimmons, Thomas Klausner, Thomas Leonard, Tim Evans, Tim Janik, Todd Berman, Tommi Komulainen, Torbjörn Andersson, Tor Lillqvist, Tor Lillqvist, Torsten Schoenfeld, Tze'ela Hebron, Vincent Untz, Wolfgang Thaller, Wouter Bolsterlee, Yang Hong, Yevgen Muntyan, Yong Wang Matthias Clasen May 5, 2006 _______________________________________________ gnome-announce-list mailing list gnome-announce-list@...45... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-announce-list

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Problem with verbs
by Jon A. Cruz 06 May '06

06 May '06

Before I did some other changes that would require adding a new verb, I setup a unit test on verbs explicitly. In doing so, I discovered that Verb::getbyid() fails if the id has any dots in it. To see the problem, just update and do a 'make check'. You should then see the warning come up for that (I made it a warning for the moment, instead of a failure). So, does anyone have ideas about this and how to fix it?

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