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fenv.h, fmin, fmax
by Jeremy C. Reed 03 Jun '09

03 Jun '09

Using inkscape-21256 snapshot (because release version has bug causing core dump when attempting to change fill color as reported numerous times). src/display/nr-arena-shape.cpp has #include <fenv.h> But I don't see any use of floating-point definitions, FE* macros, or fe*() functions. I commented that line out and inkscape built fine. (Also some platforms don't have any fenv.h.) Also src/live_effects/lpe-dynastroke.cpp uses fmin and fmax. Some platforms don't have that. So I added to src/live_effects/lpe-dynastroke.cpp : #define fmin(a,b) ((a)<(b)?(a):(b)) #define fmax(a,b) ((a)>(b)?(a):(b)) Also work/inkscape-21256/src/display/nr-filter.cpp refers to fmax but it is commented out.

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hackmeeting @milan 19->21 June 2009
by Carlo Frinolli | nois3lab 03 Jun '09

03 Jun '09

Hi all, I'm here writing you and you don't know me yet. :) Probably you might have read about my company: nois3lab. Well my workmate in particular set up the website you may have heard about: inkscapegallery.net. Now it's time (well you know we're kinda late, but... forget it :P) to show it proudly to the world. So we're going to this year italian hackmeeting to have some workshops about this. Showing why inkscape, why free software, why drupal and so on. But obviously we wanted to talk about the real topic, which is inkscape. And we thought: who better that its developer could? So, here I am: there will be some of you guys who want to come and take a workshop about the software itself? The roadmap, the status, the choices. It'll be of great pleasure for us all. Btw this years' saturday session will be focused on free software graphics, and video with some gimp sessions, some cinelerra's and pureData's... Here's the website http://it.hackmeeting.org and the wiki on which we're planning the meeting http://www.hackmeeting.org/_wiki/ Down here some info about hackmeeting. ---- The Hackmeeting was born in 1998 as the time and place for Italian and international digital counterculters, hackers and activists to share ideas, discuss projects and plan strategies on cyber-rights, electronic tools for struggling and alternative views of society. In 10 years it has been organized in Florence, Milan, Rome, Catania, Bologna, Genova, Torino, Naples, Pisa, Palermo and Parma. Every year it has been participated by hundreds of people, each one contributing to the event with debates, projects, software, concerts, talks, and a lot more. This year the hackmeeting is back in Milan, in the neighbourhood that will be swept away by the 2015 International Exposition projects. Our slogan will be: Hack your fear! Build your future! Hackmeeting is a story twelve years old. Hackmeeting has been born in 1998 and has been hold every year since that date, all over Italy, from north to south, in Florence, Milan, Rome, Bologna, Turin, Pisa, Genoa, Naples, Palermo, Catania, Parma. It has gathered nerds, cyber activists, geeks, techies, but also anyone who cared to subscribe to a general definition of hacking as changing one's own life to suit one's own desire, overcoming limit and borders, self-managing tools and spaces. The Hackmeeting has always focused on open hardware and free software, on digital countercultures, economies without capital, free speech against repression, and tried to point out the evolution and the impact of computers and electronic communication on the information system and on all of our lives. Hackmeeting offers workshop, conferences, spontaneous discussion, cyber art performances, and much more. Each proposed activity, though, is meant as one of the facet of a philosophical framework based on sharing, openness, decentralization, free access, human evolution, and aimed at a political outcome. Hackmeeting is organized by a community of hackers unique in the world for its desire to funnel the hacker ethics into political activism, far beyond the limits of the technological environment. The Hackmeeting community thinks hacking is a tool to alter reality and society as a whole. The Hackmeeting is usually a three-days long event and it's completely self-organized through an open and non-moderated mailing list (https://www.autistici.org/mailman/listinfo/hackmeeting ) and wiki (http://hackmeeting.org/_wiki/index.php?title=Pagina_principale ), as well as local live meeting in the city which will hold the next edition. It often takes place in social centers, community spaces, and squats, to stress the close relationship between hacking and the underground political scene. (http://aia.mahost.org/pro_spaces.html) The first two days are dedicated to workshop, conferences and debates. The third is usually dedicated to a big plenum, where all the participants analyse new ideas and possibilities pointed out during the meeting, sum up all the event and reflects and examines projects for the next future. For the first time in 2009 Hackmeeting is going to be splitted in two parts, to reach as many people as possible: Warm up and Hackmeeting. Warm up is a series of events which will take place in various univerisities in Milan (Accademia di belle arti di Brera, Fisica, Bovisa, Bicocca, Scienze politiche, and Cascina Torchiera), between june 9th and 18th. They will be open conferences presented by researchers, experts, activists on ethics and hackers culture issues as hacking and net art history, open source, fear embedded societies, security and control, open design e 3D animation, peer to peer economy, ecohacking (hacker approach to ecology). The Hackmeeting itself will take place in Sos Fornace, Rho (sosfornace.org) from june 19th to 21st: three days of workshops, lan space, sharing, meetings, discussions on free software, code, net neutrality, peer to peer and also digital countercultures, economies without capital, free speech against repression. Dedicated to the people who have adopted a critical and proactive approach towards the advancement of new technologies -- which are more and more tied to social control, the business of war and the commercialization of every vital space. Three days of workshops, games, parties, debates, exchanges and most of all, collective learning. More info at: www.hackmeeting.org --- Carlo Frinolli [ creative director ] nois3lab s.n.c. ______________________ [ http://nois3lab.it ] [ http://twitter.com/nois3lab ] ______________________ via di scorticabove 77, 00156 Roma tel. 069555705019 mobile. +393473112050 ______________________ GPG ID Key 0x6A224DC2

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Test
by Bob Jamison 03 Jun '09

03 Jun '09

If anyone sees this message.... please ignore! :-) bob

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Inkscape 0.47 About Screen Contest - Developer Voting
by Joshua A. Andler 02 Jun '09

02 Jun '09

Here are the results from the About Screen contest on DA, follow the link to see what the community has voted for. http://inkscapers.deviantart.com/journal/25072568/ All Devs (yes that includes Translators too), please chime in with your opinions as well as any comments on modifications that may need to be done. Cheers, Josh

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slow selection frame redraw
by Alexandre Prokoudine 02 Jun '09

02 Jun '09

Hi, A question asked out of curiosity. Currently when you draw a rubberband selection rectangle over an area where obhects have SVG Filters applied, especially with a Gaussian blur primitive, speed of redrawing the rectangle gets noticeably slower. Why is that? Alexandre

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LPE's: Red line vs. Green line
by Tavmjong Bah 02 Jun '09

02 Jun '09

Why does the Spiro LPE use a green line while the others LPE's use a red line to show the original path? It would be better, I think, if there was consistency between all the LPE's. (I realize that the original path is not very useful for the Spiro LPE.) Tav

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whatever happened to the CAD tools?
by heathenx 02 Jun '09

02 Jun '09

Just curious if anyone was planing on resurrecting the basic CAD tools that we used to have at one time during the 0.47 dev process. Was that just a proof of concept or will they be implemented at some point (0.48 perhaps)? heathenx

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LPEs for 0.47, take two
by Alexandre Prokoudine 02 Jun '09

02 Jun '09

Hi, Could we possibly try to include two currently disabled LPEs into 0.47? I'm particularly talking about: 1. Mirror symmetrically, which resolves multiple times requested symmetric drawing mode 2. Booloops, which makes Spiro a lot more useful. For now I moved all entries for currently disabled LPEs and the LPE tool itself from POTFILES.in to a newly created POTFILES.ignore so that translators have less problems. Alexandre

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Disconnected Arabic Letters on Mac OS X
by Boutros Saba 02 Jun '09

02 Jun '09

Hello Folks, Did anybody check that? I have version 0.46. past versions also fail to do the task, when I install them on my Mac OS X 10.4.11. The letters appear but without being connected. Also, when I try to paste text from outside to Inkscape it copies the Arabic text but it disconnects the letters. Any ideas please? Thanks, Boutros

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LPE Effects: Red line
by Tavmjong Bah 01 Jun '09

01 Jun '09

Hi, The editable red line showing the original path in an LPE when the LPE path is selected and the Node tool in use is no longer present in 0.46 +svn. Is this by design or is this a bug? I found it quite useful to be able to manipulate the original path and see the effect on the LPE path. Tav

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systemLanguage works, one Tardigrade
by Martin Owens 01 Jun '09

01 Jun '09

Hey guys, I remember surprising some of the old Inkscape devs when I confirmed that the systemLanguage attribute does in fact work with Inkscape. (one language at a time). Today I created an svg to sent to a friend who does translations, with notes on what parts of the svg do what. I tested it in eog, Firefox and Inkscape. Inkscape's only bug was that it didn't take into account language variations. So en_GB would show up for en_US in a switch. Eye of Gnome on the other hand did the variations correctly but failed to not render tags with incorrect languages outside of switch tags. Firefox was a complete bust, everything is always English, suspect it doesn't listen to the LANG environment variable. http://divajutta.com/doctormo/multi-lang.svg Best Regards, Martin Owens

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pedro
by Alexandre Prokoudine 01 Jun '09

01 Jun '09

Hi, Before we hit strings freeze, it would be great to do something about Pedro (XMPP client). I know that this feature is by no means complete and is supposed to be rewritten more or less from scratch, but what we have currently is something optional that is always in English. In my not very humble opinion even such a feature should be localized. Keeping something that is not ready but somewhat available unlocalizable intentionally doesn't really sound wise to me. Could we please have this fixed? Another thing is that some messages are actually marked for translation and don't work. So I'm tempted to move them to POTFILES.ignore, because they don't make any sense to translator at the moment: even if they rebuild Inkscape with --enable-inkboard they can't even check what it looks like. Alexandre

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include inkscapec.exe ?
by Alvin Penner 01 Jun '09

01 Jun '09

Will the program inkscapec.exe be included in the Windows distribution of 0.47? http://kaioa.com/node/63 This would be useful for those who are tracking bugs in Windows. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/include-inkscapec.exe---tp23632618p23632618.html Sent from the Inkscape - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Reducing the number of control/tool bars
by JiHO 29 May '09

29 May '09

Hi everyone, With the new snap control bar, Inkscape is becoming quite plump above the waist. Combined with labels that are longer in many other languages than they are in english, this does not leave very much space to draw in the end. See this example in french on a 1280*800 display (i.e. not the smallest around) http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1047321/inkscape/fat_ui.png The width is about half-drawing/half-palette, and, more importantly, the height cannot even accommodate all the tools even in this fully maximized setting. The snap control bar is not very wide but control bars do not seem to be dockable one next to each other. They apparently need to be on top of each other. Is that specific to my version of GTK or a known limitation? Now my real questions: what do you think about removing some of the toolbar items and reducing the number of control bars to two, as before? Do we really need buttons for new document, save, print, etc. when all of them are readily available in the menu and have standard, well known keyboard shortcuts? Having the snap controls in the toolbar make sense because the expose functionality that is more difficult to get to otherwise. But for the rest... My opinion would be: item status why? new remove present just a cm above, in the file menu; well known shortcut open remove idem save remove idem print remove idem + less frequently used import ? export ? undo remove present to reach in the edit menu; very well known shortcut redo remove idem copy remove idem cut remove idem paste remove idem zoom . . align keep it is inkscape specific except maybe: layers ? there is the layers' dropdown already for easy access global prefs remove if users really need to get to the global preferences often enough that it requires a button here, it's probably that there is a deeper problem. Plus this would reduce the confusion between the two because of their very similar icons (as was mentioned earlier on the list). doc. prefs keep Removing that would make enough room to fit the snap bar next to the main control bar. If GTK can't do it dynamically, it would need to be hardcoded, for now. These changes might seem to be at the detriment of beginners, but once again they target: - functions that are similar in most software, so for which the keyboard shortcuts are easier and more efficient to learn - functions that are easily available in the menu. Navigating to a menu is not that tedious especially when the menu is just a few pixels above the tool bar button. I looks like a bad habit carried over from some windows programs rather than like a real design decision on the part of the linux desktops. Plus, other apps (like the gimp) don't have buttons for such things and I haven't heard anyone complaining (about that part of the UI at least ;) ) I hope it is not too late to mention that. I think if change ever happens, it should be before 0.47, before people get exposed and used to a more cluttered UI. Thanks in advance for your comments. JiHO --- http://jo.irisson.free.fr/

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Inkscape 0.47 About Screen Contest - Voting Time
by Joshua A. Andler 29 May '09

29 May '09

Hey All, The submission portion of the contest has concluded and it is now time to vote. Things have been simplified this go 'round. Voting will ONLY take place on deviantart, and everyone gets only 1 vote. http://inkscapers.deviantart.com/journal/24960257 Cheers, Josh P.S. This simplification this time was to reduce unnecessary administrative overhead... sorry, no exceptions.

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Interface buglets
by Tavmjong Bah 29 May '09

29 May '09

Hi, Here are a few interface buglets in 0.46+svn: 1. "Duplicate Current Layer..." has "..." but doesn't open a dialog. 2. Icons for flipping/rotating are not being taken from icons.svg. 3. "Extensions" sub-menu items still use "Effects". 4. "Guide around page" should be "Guide Around Page" for consistency. 5. "Display Mode" radio buttons are not updated if one uses "Toggle". 6. "Display Mode->Toggle" only toggles between "Normal" and "Outline, this isn't very clear from the menu. Tav

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Export to Open Clip Art LIbrary?
by Tavmjong Bah 29 May '09

29 May '09

Does export to the Open Clip Art Library now work? It was disabled in 0.46. If it doesn't it should probably be disabled again or if it does, then it should be mentioned in the release notes. Tav

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Node tool behaviour VERY different from 0.46 - bug 379817
by worms invasion 29 May '09

29 May '09

Hi devs! Thanks a lot for all the good work and awesome features, and the bug fixing! Re. bug fixing before 0.37, could anyone take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/379817 , which makes a lot of usual operations impossible now (or very very painful to "fix"). Inkscape shouldn't, I think, "draw" paths in a different manner in 0.47 compared to 0.46. Thanks in advance!

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.47 builds on mac
by Alexandre Prokoudine 29 May '09

29 May '09

Hi, I'm not really a Mac user :), but every time we release .47 we hear "but it doesn't look native on Mac". So, did anybody try to finally build Inkscape with native GTK+ port for Mac? Are we ready to release Inkscape for Mac that way? Alexandre

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Font selection broken on windows
by Mourad Mokrane 29 May '09

29 May '09

Hi, the font selection dropdown doesn't work on windows, at least in Inkscape21345-0905140303 on Windows Vista. When the dropdown is opened, an inkscape.exe task appears on the taskbar as if the process was running outside of the Inkscape main window. Selecting fonts has no effect on the typed text. Molumen

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Tango default poll?
by Mihaela 27 May '09

27 May '09

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Cannot compile on XP
by Preben Soeberg 27 May '09

27 May '09

Got this: cc : compile of build/obj/inkscape.o required by source: src/inkscape.cpp . Make error line 581: problem compiling: src/inkscape.cpp: In function 'gchar* profile_path(const char*)': src/inkscape.cpp:1454: error: 'S_IRGRP' was not declared in this scope src/inkscape.cpp:1454: error: 'S_IXGRP' was not declared in this scope src/inkscape.cpp:1454: error: 'S_IXOTH' was not declared in this scope src/inkscape.cpp: At global scope: src/inkscape.cpp:144: warning: 'bus_handler' defined but not used

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Kill SPIcon patch
by Krzysztof Kosiński 26 May '09

26 May '09

I have a patch that replaces SPIcon with GtkImage, by redefining sp_icon_new and typedefing SPIcon to GtkImage. The amount of changes is rather modest - about 10 files changed. It fixes all icon-related issues I could find but removes support for icons.svg. http://tweenk.artfx.pl/kill-spicon.patch Should I commit this? Regards, Krzysztof Kosiński -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Kill-SPIcon-patch-tp23689610p23689610.html Sent from the Inkscape - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Vectorising Resolution
by Martin Owens 26 May '09

26 May '09

Hey guys, I've tried to use the fill and vectorising tools in inkscape to create vectors from existing bitmaps; but I noticed an odd effect with the path that all requires two simplify node functions to get the path into a manageable state. Are we currently taking into account the resolution of the raster image we are vectoring in order to smooth out the complexities of the pixelisation? The maths need to be able to reduce the noise from the pixel shapes and try and increase the signal from the shape of the image section... although perhaps this is only useful for cartoon type images. Thoughts? Best Regards, Martin Owens

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ENOUGH WITH THE ICONS!!!
by Josh Andler 26 May '09

26 May '09

Sorry about the tone of this message, but... can we stop wasting time and energy on the icons and focus on getting 0.47 out the door? As a (or I believe still the only) release warden for 0.47, I am authoritatively saying, "not this time". My rationale is based on the fact that there are obviously still too many mixed feelings for this change to have been made during the release preparation period. Even after 0.47 is out the door, we shouldn't even bother with a poll until someone adds an icon set chooser in prefs. This way EVERYONE can be happy without having to copy/move files. As a side note... for the remainder of this release cycle... (0.47) How about every time someone feels the need to start or reply to an icons thread, they just go to the bug tracker and try to see if they can reproduce a bug still marked as "New". It's a far more productive use of time and the community will end up appreciating the results MUCH more. Having similar or the same discussion(s) every few months has not changed a thing, nor will it anytime soon. This seems like one of the most ridiculous wastes of resources, to the point that I'm flat out angry rather than aggravated. My wife thinks that we're all nuts with the frequency of these repetitive and non-conclusive discussions. I don't know that I disagree her. :-) Anyways, before I lose my cool and start with the profanity and insults (which I'm on the edge)... let's just be done for now. Sincerely, Josh P.S. If people really want to keep pushing this issue right now, I will have no problem stepping down as the release coordinator and release warden.

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