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comments on fr.po
by Peter Moulder 02 Aug '04

02 Aug '04

Thanks for the recent updates to fr.po! I'm not a native french speaker; can someone please check the following comments and diff? Thanks. What's the preference between normal space and non-breaking space before e.g. `:' ? I'd have thought that it would be bad to have a line break just before `:', which suggests that non-breaking space (  /   /  ) is better. However, some of the recent diffs explicitly changed non-breaking space to normal space. Are there problems with non-breaking space, or were the changes just because normal space is easier to type? "metadata": obi used "métadonnées" "lors des déplacement": surely either "de" or "-ments" "Pas sélection d'indication d'objet pers" (yet display-settings.cpp:223 discards "Indication de sélection pour chaque objet" translation) "Tous les objets sélectionnés" : suggest "Chaque objet sélectionné". Similarly in other "Tous les" translations. This can reduce confusion as to whether e.g. `leur foo'/`leurs foos' means that each has a foo/foos or whether there's a shared foo/foos. "avec certain gestionaire": I'd have expected plural. display-settings.cpp:624: why suppress "Montrer l'indication de sélection" translation? #: src/dialogs/display-settings.cpp:642 -#, fuzzy msgid "Picking colors:" -msgstr "Choisissement de couleurs :" +msgstr "couleurs capturé:" Why lower-case, and no space before colon? It seems a different meaning from the original. I haven't looked at how this phrase gets used in inkscape though. #: src/dialogs/display-settings.cpp:653 msgid "Pick visible color (no alpha)" -msgstr "" +msgstr "Capture de couleurs visibles (pas d'alpha)" why plural? Should original be changed? #: src/dialogs/display-settings.cpp:653 msgid "" "Pick the visible color under cursor, taking into account the page background " "and disregarding the transparency of objects" -msgstr "" +msgstr "Pipette la couleur visible sous le curseur, tient compte de la couleur du fond et ne tient pas compte de la transparence des objets" I don't like the punctuation: "Pipette" is presumably imperative, whereas tient looks indicative. So I'd put "tient...objets" in a separate sentence: "curseur. (Tient...objets.)" I'm not sure that it should be indicative though: it could be an instruction to the user to take into consideration rather than an observation as to what the computer does. In some cases mouse is translated as "souris", other places "sourie". I don't recall encountering the spelling "sourie" elsewhere. #: src/dialogs/display-settings.cpp:755 -#, fuzzy msgid "Grab sensitivity:" -msgstr "Proximité de sélection de la souris" +msgstr "Saisir la sensibilité :" This change looks wrong. The sense of the original is "sensitivity of mouse grab". "Sensitivity" isn't really a very good word. What it means is "how close should the mouse pointer be to an object for it to be considered selecting that object". "Distance à partir de la quelle peut saisir" looks strange to me. "Déplacement de sourie maximal": I'd consider "Déplacement maximal de sourie". "Gardé appuyé Ctrl+flèches augmente" looks strange to me. Would make sense to me if there were a comma after "appuyé". "tire un objet au dehors": suggest add "de la fenêtre". "en points": Out of curiosity, why write "en pixel" but "en points" ? Whereas elsewhere we have "en point par pouce", "La largeur en pixels" (ou hauteur), "(en degrés)". "zoomme ou dézoumme"; "zoom": appear to be three different ways of translating the verb "zoom". (The noun seems fairly consistently translated as "zoom".) #: src/dialogs/display-settings.cpp:999 -#, fuzzy msgid "Save window geometry" -msgstr "Enregistrer la géométrie de la fenêtre" +msgstr "Enregistre la taille de la fenêtre" "geometry" in X means both size and position. AFAIK, geometry/géométrie mean the same thing (outside of X at least), i.e. "geometry" is an artificial word coined for this purpose. I'd guess that géométrie in French is just as suitable as "geometry" is in English. "Save the window size and position with each document (only for Inkscape SVG " "format)" -msgstr "" +msgstr "Enregistrment la taille de la fenêtre et ça position pour chaque document (seulement pour le format SVG d 'Inkscape)" Presumably s/ça/sa/, and "Enregistre(r)". "Sont déplacé": "déplacés" ? Similarly, "Ne bouge pas" -> "Ne bougent pas" below, and similarly for "Déplacé". "du même vecteur comme l'original" : "que l'original" ? "Deviennent indépendant": "indépendants" ? "rempli avec" : "rempli de" ? "la menu fichier" : "le menu Fichier" ou "« Fichier »" ou "‘Fichier’". "une appel": "un appel" ? (I haven't checked dictionary.) "Impossible de suaver" : either "sauver" or "enregistrer". #. TRANSLATORS: "%s" is replaced with "exact" or "partial" when this string is displayed -#: src/dialogs/find.cpp:320 +#: src/dialogs/find.cpp:317 #, c-format msgid "%d object(s) found (out of %d), %s match." -msgstr "" +msgstr "%d objet(s) trouvés (sur %d), correspondant à %s." Did you notice the TRANSLATORS comment? I'd have thought ", match %s." (or whatever the translation for "match"). -#: src/dialogs/find.cpp:493 +#: src/dialogs/find.cpp:490 msgid "Search in all object types" -msgstr "" +msgstr "Recherché dans tous les types d'objets" "Rechercher" ? "Rechercher des groupes", "Rechercher des clones", etc.: other similar-looking translations use "les". I haven't checked whether the similar-looking strings are on the same dialog box or not. -#: src/dialogs/find.cpp:635 +#: src/dialogs/find.cpp:632 msgid "Find objects by the value of the id attribute (exact or partial match)" -msgstr "" +msgstr "Rechercher des objets par leurs valeurs ou leurs id (exact ou partiel)" I think you misread "of" as "or". (I haven't checked whether there's a mistake in the original.) I'd expect something like "par la valeur de l’attribut ‘id’". (If you use the punctuation "attribut ‘id’" then change "attribut de style" similarly. Btw, "the style attribute" means "the attribute whose name is written ‘style’ in the XML"; I'm not sure that "l’attribut de style" captures this.) -#: src/dialogs/find.cpp:663 -#, fuzzy +#: src/dialogs/find.cpp:660 msgid "Clear values" -msgstr "Effacer les valeurs" +msgstr "Valeurs de nettoyage" I'd have thought this change to be wrong, but I haven't looked at how the string is used. -#: src/dialogs/find.cpp:664 -#, fuzzy +#: src/dialogs/find.cpp:661 msgid "_Find" -msgstr "Chercher" +msgstr "Trouver (_f)" Personally I prefer "Chercher" (e.g. considering the case where the search is unsuccessful: requesting that one "trouve" `foo' might imply adding `foo' to the document if necessary, which of course one does not want. (Granted, the original has the same problem, but English doesn't have a single-word equivalent of "chercher".) Similarly elsewhere. #: src/dialogs/object-properties.cpp:212 -#, fuzzy msgid "Stroke paint" -msgstr "Peinture du trait" +msgstr "Couleur du tracé" "Stroke paint" allows either a simple single colour or a gradient or a pattern or absence of stroke. It would be nice to find a word that encompasses all of these. Even "Couleurs" or "Couleur(s)" would suffice. "Impossible de le rechargé" : "recharger" ? "Document non modifier" : "modifié" ? #: src/inkscape.cpp:1152 msgid "" "Although Inkscape will run, it will use default settings,\n" "and any changes made in preferences will not be saved." msgstr "" "Toutes fois Inkscape va démarrer, il va utiliser les paramètre par défaut,\n" "et toutes les modifications de préférences ne seront pas enregistré." I've already changed "Toutes fois" to "Bien qu'" and "enregistré" to "enregistrés" in the below diffs. I suspect "paramètre" -> "paramètres" and "par défaut" -> "de défaut". -#: src/interface.cpp:789 +#: src/interface.cpp:782 msgid "Show or hide the main toolbox (on the left)" -msgstr "" +msgstr "Afficher ou cacher la boite à outils principale (à droite)" Please confirm the left/droite translation. Does the original string need changing? "vous devez avoir sélectionnés deux nœuds": either "avoir sélectionné deux nœuds" or "avoir deux nœuds sélectionnés". I quite like the latter adjectival form, and am inclined to change the original accordingly ("must have two nodes selected"). #: src/select-context.cpp:808 #, c-format msgid "Move by %s, %s" msgstr "Déplacé de %s, %s" Does the original need changing to "Moved" ? Similarly "Center at" / "Centré en" elsewhere. #: src/selection-chemistry.cpp:1357 msgid "Select a single clone to go to its original." msgstr "Sélectionner un seul clone pour aller à l'original." "son original" ? #: src/verbs.cpp:883 msgid "Difference of selected objects (bottom minus top)" msgstr "Différence entre les objets sélectionnes (dessus moins dessous)" Please confirm "dessus moins dessous". Does the original string need changing? Similarly the "bottom" -> "dessus" translation for: #: src/verbs.cpp:887 msgid "Cut the bottom object into pieces" msgstr "Découper l'objet de dessus en morceau" (and should it be morceaux ?) #: src/interface.cpp:925 msgid "Leave Group" msgstr "Laisser le groupe" "Quitter" ? I believe this string means "stop editing this group", i.e. "close group" in xfig; the opposite of "Enter group" / "Entrer dans le groupe". So perhaps "Sortir du groupe". Finally, appended are some diffs to check. Thanks in advance for correcting my french & improving the french translation. Comments on French-speaking web sites show that people do appreciate recent French translation work. pjrm. Index: fr.po =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/inkscape/inkscape/po/fr.po,v retrieving revision 1.49 diff -d -u -r1.49 fr.po --- fr.po 27 Jul 2004 11:53:50 -0000 1.49 +++ fr.po 1 Aug 2004 09:14:48 -0000 @@ -1,5 +1,3 @@ -# translation of fr.po to -# translation of fr.po to # translation of fr.po to Français # French translation of Inkscape. # Copyright (C) 2000-2003, 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. @@ -90,14 +88,14 @@ "\n" "If you close without saving, your changes will be discarded." msgstr "" -"Enregister les changements du " +"Enregistrer les changements du " "document \"%s\" avant de fermer ?\n" "\n" -"Si vous fermez sans enregistre vos changements seront perdus." +"Si vous fermez sans enregistrer, vos changements seront perdus." #: src/desktop.cpp:1078 src/desktop.cpp:1137 msgid "Close _without saving" -msgstr "Fermer _sans enregister" +msgstr "Fermer _sans enregistrer" #: src/desktop.cpp:1122 #, c-format @@ -109,7 +107,7 @@ msgstr "" "Le fichier \"%s\" a été enregistré dans un format (%s) qui peut causer des pertes de données !\n" "\n" -"Voulez vous enregistrer ce fichier dans un autre format ?" +"Voulez-vous enregistrer ce fichier dans un autre format ?" #: src/desktop.cpp:1486 msgid "No previous zoom." @@ -418,7 +416,7 @@ #: src/dialogs/display-settings.cpp:201 msgid "When transforming, show:" -msgstr "Lors des transformations afficher :" +msgstr "Lors des transformations, afficher :" #: src/dialogs/display-settings.cpp:212 msgid "Objects" @@ -495,7 +493,7 @@ msgid "" "Rotating with Ctrl pressed snaps every that much degrees; also, pressing " "[ or ] rotates by this amount" -msgstr "Les rotations avec Ctrl appuyé sont de tan de degrés; ensuite en appuyant sur [ ou ], les rotations ce font de cette valeur" +msgstr "Les rotations avec Ctrl appuyé sont de tan de degrés; ensuite en appuyant sur ‘[’ ou ‘]’, les rotations ce font de cette valeur" #: src/dialogs/display-settings.cpp:386 msgid "Rotation snaps every:" @@ -506,7 +504,7 @@ "None: dialogs are treated as regular windows; Normal: dialogs stay on top of " "document windows; Aggressive: same as Normal but may work better with some " "window managers." -msgstr "Aucun : les dialogues sont traités comme des fenêtres; Normal :les dialogues restent sur la fenêtre du document; Agressif : comme Normal, mais marche mieux avec certain gestionaire de fenêtre." +msgstr "Aucun : les dialogues sont traités comme des fenêtres; Normal : les dialogues restent sur la fenêtre du document; Agressif : comme Normal, mais marche mieux avec certain gestionaire de fenêtre." #: src/dialogs/display-settings.cpp:430 msgid "Normal" @@ -791,7 +789,7 @@ "Zoom drawing when document window is resized, to keep the same area visible " "(this is the default which can be changed in any window using the button " "above the right scrollbar)" -msgstr "Le dessin est rezoommé lors que le fenêtre est redimentionné, pour garder la même aire visible (c'est l'option par défaut qui peut être changé dans n'importe quelle fenêtre en utilisant le boutton au dessus de la barre de défilement de droite)" +msgstr "Le dessin est rezoommé lors que la fenêtre est redimentionné, pour garder la même aire visible (c'est l'option par défaut qui peut être changé dans n'importe quelle fenêtre en utilisant le boutton au dessus de la barre de défilement de droite)" #. Clones #: src/dialogs/display-settings.cpp:1024 src/dialogs/find.cpp:561 @@ -827,7 +825,7 @@ "Each clone moves according to the value of its transform= attribute. For " "example, a rotated clone will move in a different direction than its " "original." -msgstr "Chaque clones est déplacé en fonction de ça transformation = attribut. Par exemple, un clone tourné va être déplacé dans une direction différente de l'original." +msgstr "Chaque clone est déplacé en fonction de son attribut ‘transform=’. Par exemple, un clone tourné va être déplacé dans une direction différente de l'original." #: src/dialogs/display-settings.cpp:1060 msgid "When the original is deleted, its clones:" @@ -890,7 +888,7 @@ msgid "" "If possible, apply transformation to objects without adding a transform= " "attribute" -msgstr "Si possible, appliquer la transformation aux objets sans ajouter de transformation = attribut" +msgstr "Si possible, appliquer la transformation aux objets sans ajouter d’attribut ‘transform=’" #: src/dialogs/display-settings.cpp:1138 msgid "Preserved" @@ -898,7 +896,7 @@ #: src/dialogs/display-settings.cpp:1138 msgid "Always store transformation as a transform= attribute on objects" -msgstr "Toujours enregistrer la transformation comme une transformation = attribut de l'objet" +msgstr "Toujours enregistrer la transformation comme un attribut ‘transform=’ de l'objet" #. To be broken into: Display, Save, Export, SVG, Commands #: src/dialogs/display-settings.cpp:1146 @@ -1196,7 +1194,7 @@ #: src/dialogs/find.cpp:631 msgid "Find objects by their text content (exact or partial match)" -msgstr "Rechercher des objets par le texte qu'il contiennent (exact ou partiel)" +msgstr "Rechercher des objets par le texte qu'ils contiennent (exact ou partiel)" #: src/dialogs/find.cpp:632 msgid "_ID: " @@ -1742,14 +1740,14 @@ #: src/draw-context.cpp:1834 msgid "Finishing pen" -msgstr "Terminier le crayon" +msgstr "Terminer le crayon" #. alpha of color under cursor, to show in the statusbar #. locale-sensitive printf is OK, since this goes to the UI, not into SVG #: src/dropper-context.cpp:271 #, c-format msgid " alpha %.3g" -msgstr " alpha % 3g" +msgstr " alpha %.3g" #. where the color is picked, to show in the statusbar #: src/dropper-context.cpp:273 @@ -1787,7 +1785,7 @@ #: src/extension/internal/eps-out.cpp:82 msgid "Make bounding box around full page" -msgstr "Faire une boite tout au tour de la page" +msgstr "Faire une boite tout autour de la page" #: src/extension/internal/eps-out.cpp:90 msgid "Convert text to path" @@ -1820,8 +1818,8 @@ "file size and can be arbitrarily scaled, but alpha transparency, gradients " "and patterns will be lost." msgstr "" -"Utiliser les opérateurs vectoriels PostScript, l'image résultante sera (en " -"général) plus petite tout en restant redimentionnable; par contre, la " +"Utiliser les opérateurs vectoriels PostScript. Le fichier d'image résultant sera (en " +"général) plus petit tout en restant redimentionnable; par contre, la " "transparence alpha, les dégradés, les marqueurs et les motifs de remplissage seront perdus." #: src/extension/internal/ps.cpp:139 @@ -1834,7 +1832,7 @@ "size and cannot be arbitrarily scaled without quality loss, but all objects " "will be rendered exactly as displayed." msgstr "" -"Tout imprimer en tant que bitmap, l'image résultante sera (habituellement) plus grande et sa qualité dépend du facteur de zoom; Mais tous les graphismes " +"Tout imprimer en tant que bitmap. Le fichier d'image résultant sera (habituellement) plus grand et sa qualité dépend du facteur de zoom; Mais tous les graphismes " "seront rendus identiques à l'affichage." #: src/extension/internal/ps.cpp:155 @@ -1878,7 +1876,7 @@ #: src/file.cpp:184 #, c-format msgid "Changes will be lost! Are you sure you want to reload document %s?" -msgstr "Les changements vont être perdu ! Êtes-vous sûr de vouloir recharger le document %s ?" +msgstr "Les changements vont être perdus ! Êtes-vous sûr de vouloir recharger le document %s ?" #: src/file.cpp:203 msgid "Document reverted." @@ -1901,7 +1899,7 @@ msgid "" "No Inkscape extension found to save document (%s). This may have been " "caused by an unknown filename extension." -msgstr "Pas d'extensions Inkscape trouvé pour enregistrer le document (%s). Cela peut venir du fait que l'extension est inconnue." +msgstr "Pas d'extensions Inkscape trouvé pour enregistrer le document (%s). Cela peut venir du fait que l'extension est inconnue." #: src/file.cpp:313 src/file.cpp:319 msgid "Document not saved." @@ -1940,7 +1938,7 @@ #: src/help.cpp:55 msgid "about.svg" -msgstr "à propos de svg" +msgstr "about.svg" #: src/help.cpp:71 src/verbs.cpp:1033 msgid "About Inkscape" @@ -2075,7 +2073,7 @@ msgid "" "Automatic backups of unsaved documents were done to the following " "locations:\n" -msgstr "Les enregistrments automatiques des documents non enregistrés sont effectuées à cet emplacement : \n" +msgstr "Les enregistrments automatiques des documents non enregistrés sont effectuées à cet emplacement :\n" #: src/inkscape.cpp:494 msgid "Automatic backup of the following documents failed:\n" @@ -2159,8 +2157,8 @@ "Although Inkscape will run, it will use default settings,\n" "and any changes made in preferences will not be saved." msgstr "" -"Toutes fois Inkscape va démarrer, il va utiliser les paramètre par défaut,\n" -"et toutes les modifications de préférences ne seront pas enregistré." +"Bien qu'Inkscape va démarrer, il va utiliser les paramètre par défaut,\n" +"et toutes les modifications de préférences ne seront pas enregistrés." #: src/interface.cpp:605 msgid "Open _Recent" @@ -2224,7 +2222,7 @@ #: src/interface.cpp:827 msgid "Interactive Inkscape tutorials" -msgstr "Tutoriel interactifs d'Inkscape" +msgstr "Tutoriaux interactifs d'Inkscape" #: src/interface.cpp:853 msgid "_File" @@ -2268,7 +2266,7 @@ msgid "" "The file %s already exists. Do you want to overwrite that file with the " "current document?" -msgstr "Le fichier %s existe déjà. Voulez vous que le document courant écraser ce fichier ?" +msgstr "Le fichier %s existe déjà. Voulez-vous que le document courant écrase ce fichier ?" #: src/knot.cpp:567 msgid "Node or handle drag canceled." @@ -2521,7 +2519,7 @@ #: src/path-chemistry.cpp:73 msgid "You cannot combine objects from different groups or layers." -msgstr "Vous ne pouvais pas combiner des objets de différents groupes ou calques." +msgstr "Vous ne pouvez pas combiner des objets de différents groupes ou calques." #: src/path-chemistry.cpp:157 msgid "Select some path(s) to break apart." @@ -2603,7 +2601,7 @@ #: src/selection-chemistry.cpp:253 msgid "You cannot group objects from different groups or layers." -msgstr "Vous ne pouvais pas grouper des objets de différents groupes ou calques." +msgstr "Vous ne pouvez pas grouper des objets de différents groupes ou calques." #: src/selection-chemistry.cpp:301 msgid "Select a group to ungroup." @@ -2620,7 +2618,7 @@ #: src/selection-chemistry.cpp:408 src/selection-chemistry.cpp:486 msgid "You cannot raise/lower objects from different groups or layers." msgstr "" -"Vous ne pouvais pas faire remonter/descendre des objets de différents " +"Vous ne pouvez pas faire remonter/descendre des objets de différents " "groupes ou calques." #: src/selection-chemistry.cpp:452 @@ -2689,7 +2687,7 @@ #: src/selection-chemistry.cpp:1507 msgid "No pattern fills to untile in the selection." -msgstr "motif de remplissage dans la sélection à dépaver." +msgstr "Pas de motif de remplissage dans la sélection à dépaver." #: src/selection-describer.cpp:30 msgid "Click selection to toggle scale/rotation handles" @@ -2881,7 +2879,7 @@ #. TRANSLATORS: "to outline" means "to convert stroke to path" #: src/splivarot.cpp:738 msgid "No stroked paths to outline in the selection." -msgstr "Pas de chemin à agrandir dans la sélection." +msgstr "Pas de chemin tracé dans la sélection." #: src/splivarot.cpp:825 msgid "Selected object is not a path, cannot inset/outset." @@ -2928,7 +2926,7 @@ #: src/text-context.cpp:432 msgid "Non-printable character" -msgstr "Caractère non Imprimable" +msgstr "Caractère non imprimable" #: src/toolbox.cpp:380 msgid "Insert new nodes into selected segments" @@ -3237,7 +3235,7 @@ #: src/verbs.cpp:805 msgid "Revert to the last saved version of document (changes will be lost)" -msgstr "Recharger le dernier enregistrement du document (les changement serons perdu)" +msgstr "Recharger le dernier enregistrement du document (les changements seront perdus)" #: src/verbs.cpp:806 msgid "_Save" @@ -3305,7 +3303,7 @@ #: src/verbs.cpp:822 msgid "P_revious Window" -msgstr "F_enêtre d'aperçus" +msgstr "Fenêtre p_récédante" #: src/verbs.cpp:823 msgid "Switch to the previous document window" @@ -3887,7 +3885,7 @@ #: src/verbs.cpp:995 msgid "D_uplicate Window" -msgstr "D_upliquer le fenêtre" +msgstr "D_upliquer la fenêtre" #: src/verbs.cpp:995 msgid "Open a new window with the same document" @@ -4045,7 +4043,7 @@ #: src/verbs.cpp:1039 msgid "Advanced Inkscape tutorial" -msgstr "Tutorial avancés d'Inkscape" +msgstr "Tutorial avancé d'Inkscape" #. "tutorial_advanced" #: src/verbs.cpp:1040 @@ -4063,7 +4061,7 @@ #: src/verbs.cpp:1043 msgid "Miscellaneous Tips and Tricks" -msgstr "Divers truc et astuces" +msgstr "Divers trucs et astuces" #: src/widgets/dash-selector.cpp:104 msgid "Dash pattern"

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CVS autogen error
by Florent 02 Aug '04

02 Aug '04

Hi all, I've tried to compile the latest CVS; but an error appear : After a while, I made a "rm -rf inkscape" and an "./autogen.sh" and this give me the error : checking for autoconf >= 2.52 ... yes (version 2.59) checking for automake >= 1.7 ... yes (version 1.8.5) checking for glib-gettextize >= 2.0.0 ... yes (version 2.4.4) checking for intltool >= 0.17 ... yes (version 0.30) Running aclocal-1.8 ... Running autoheader ... Running automake-1.8 --add-missing ... configure.in: installing `./install-sh' configure.in: installing `./missing' configure.in:5: installing `./config.guess' configure.in:5: installing `./config.sub' Makefile.am: installing `./INSTALL' configure.in:25: required file `./ltmain.sh' not found src/Makefile.am: installing `./depcomp' Please fix the error conditions and try again.

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Linux Journal link
by Robert Crosbie 01 Aug '04

01 Aug '04

I get the digest so excuse me if this has already been posted: http://linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=7564 Check out the first post: "The Gimp wins in the graphics category again, it seems like it always does but Inkscape is getting really good, maybe next year?" Cheers, Rob. http://members.rogers.com/rcrosbie _________________________________________________________________ Take charge with a pop-up guard built on patented Microsoft� SmartScreen Technology http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht… Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN� Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*.

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Re: sp-typeset
by bulia byak 01 Aug '04

01 Aug '04

> i will reuse a lot of it for flowtext stuff, that's a > given. the purpose of the SPTypeset object, though, > was to be a testbed for flowtext stuff, and an object > to which you would give marked-up text like LaTeX > source or RTF and get a nice layout of it. this last > part is a huge amount of work... i advise for a > removal for simplification of the codebase, and to > avoid confusions with SVG flowtext. OK, that makes sense. > that is also a big amount of work, unless some parts > of it can be lifted from a preexisting text editor. i > feel sorry for the guy who will have to do it. It's not really that bad, imho. I thought about how to do it, and I'm definitely willing to give it a try when I have more free time. Just a child of text-context holding the start and end character positions of the selection in the text object, and a list of canvas items, each being an inversion rectangle overlaying one character. The tricky part is how to make it so that when you choose a color (by whatever means) it gets applied to the text selection instead of the entire selected text object, but there is now a solution for that: desktop issues _style_signal for any style change, and the text selection would intercept that signal and apply the style to the text selection (creating tspan(s) as needed); and when the signal is intercepted, the style is not applied to the selected objects (see sp_desktop_set_style in desktop.cpp). So it's doable. > wrt > mathematical markup, i was more thinking to stuff like > indices/exponents: dx/dy give you the possibility to > do either exponent or indices, not both. Not to > mention the cases where you want the text to be > stacked below some other piece of text. this is where > latex shines. the simplest solution is probably to do > some sort of "Equation Service" > (http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/EquationService/) with > the scripting possibilities of inkscape, and insert > the complex stuff as images in the flowtext. Yes, it would be cool. Just build a robust chain of tools to do TeX -> PS -> SVG conversion, and automatically run it and import into a <g> with an inkscape: attribute storing the source TeX code, with a command to edit it. Worth an RFE, and would not be very difficult to implement. Except that such "embedded TeX" will not be able to be part of an SVG text object, but only an independent object. > the problem on osx is having several trees with unix > software cohabitating with each other. since i have a > fink tree with all my gnome stuff, installing gtkmm2.4 > and friends requires me to either package it myself > (no thanks) or to mess with the install and header > search paths (my previous attempts were complete > failures). in any case it's simpler and safer to just > wait for fink to get up to date. I really hope they will get up to date soon. We need you :) > regarding my flowtext work, here is a patch made > against the 0.39 release. Thanks, I will apply it ASAP. > flowtref, flowlinebreak and flowimage are missing, but > it's already able to eat styled text and handle > bidirectionality. it would be good for me if someone > could put it in the CVS tree and give it some > exercise, so that bugs get apparent. since flowtext > has the same text/tspan structure, parts of this patch > can also have some use for the current text implementation. Great, I will test it and report what I find.

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Inkscape CVS on SuSE 9.1
by Bryce Harrington 01 Aug '04

01 Aug '04

I've compiled Inkscape on SuSE 9.1; I made a list of the changes I needed to do for getting all the deps & configuration issues in the SuSE section of: http://inkscape.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?CompilingInkscape Bryce

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Re: [Sodipodi-list] thanks
by Jon Phillips 01 Aug '04

01 Aug '04

What version of inkscape did you try? Can anyone help Jimmy? Jon On Mon, 2004-08-02 at 00:23, Jimmy James wrote: > --- Jon Phillips <jon@...235...> wrote: > > > Try inkscape!!! > > > > www.inkscape.org :: Open Source SVG Editor as > > well... > > > > Jon > > > >I got a good feeling when I saw the installed > inkscape program. I tried to draw a rectangle and the > program just hanged up. I rebooted and tried the star > tool and it hanged up again. I rebooted. > I am using yoper version 2 operating system. > a little work on the inkscape probably will be a > good if not a perfect substitute to CorelDraw. > thanks again. > > Jimmy > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail -- Jon Phillips PO BOX 948667 LA JOLLA, CA 92037 USA USA.PH.858.361.2811 jon@...235... http://www.rejon.org Inkscape (http://inkscape.org) Open Clip Art Library (www.openclipart.org) CVS Book (http://cvsbook.ucsd.edu/) Scale Journal (http://scale.ucsd.edu/)

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FINK + MAC OS X + INKSCAPE
by Jon Phillips 01 Aug '04

01 Aug '04

Hello all, I had a chat with FINK developers (http://fink.sf.net) about our new dependencies. Here is what they said about gtkmm 2.4 which is in their unstable: (05:06:19) dmacks: "unstable" is actually quite stable, it's just users are typically too lazy to send positive feedback to let us know it works right. (05:06:53) dmacks: unstable + positive-feedback --> stable; stable in the next week or so --> in the next bindist. So, our OS X users/developers should use the unstable packages and give feedback to help push these packages into stable. Also, I hopefully convinced them to push to stable quicker. Also, for those wanting Boehm: search for gc jon -- Jon Phillips PO BOX 948667 LA JOLLA, CA 92037 USA USA.PH.858.361.2811 jon@...235... http://www.rejon.org Inkscape (http://inkscape.org) Open Clip Art Library (www.openclipart.org) CVS Book (http://cvsbook.ucsd.edu/) Scale Journal (http://scale.ucsd.edu/)

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inkscape google search + articles
by Jon Phillips 01 Aug '04

01 Aug '04

Hello all, Sometimes it is interesting to run a google search on Inkscape after a release and see what is/has been written. I found this review of the app and there is talk that the Win32 version of Inkscape is only avail. in English. Is this true? http://www.framasoft.net/article2711.html Here is someone who has written a Mac OS X launcher for Inkscape: http://www.coswellproductions.org/index.php/code/inkscape_mac_os_x_launcher… Mac OS X portfile: http://inkscape.darwinports.com/ Interesting site of reviewers: http://www.stumbleupon.com/url/www.inkscape.org/ Next, Jon -- Jon Phillips PO BOX 948667 LA JOLLA, CA 92037 USA USA.PH.858.361.2811 jon@...235... http://www.rejon.org Inkscape (http://inkscape.org) Open Clip Art Library (www.openclipart.org) CVS Book (http://cvsbook.ucsd.edu/) Scale Journal (http://scale.ucsd.edu/)

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Inkscape and the Gimp, gradients.
by Alan Horkan 31 Jul '04

31 Jul '04

Those of you who are also on the OpenClipart.org mailing list may have noticed that the Gimp now allows the use of SVG Gradients. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148127 The support is in CVS and there has not yet been a release that has included but there should be another 2.1.x release soon. Sven Neuman added the feature, and I'm well pleased. Now I'll be able to use the same files for both Inkscape and Gimp and use a standardised file format. The gradient file can contain a single gradient or multiple gradients. The parser has some flexibility with regards to the formatting used by the gradients. The gradients are read only for now. Another recently added feature that I requested was support for using standard file formats for Patterns. As GDKPixbuf was used and because there is an option to use librsvg to add SVG support to GDKpixbuf it should be possible to use SVG patterns directly in the Gimp too. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140443 Futher testing of and feedback on the SVG Gradient support would be very much appreciated. DND support could be added in time but it will require work from Inkscape. Sven would like to do this if Inkscape developers will do the necessary work on their side, and he asked me to pass on that request. I'm in a bit of a hurry otherwise i would have phrased this better and more clearly. There is also the distinct possibility that this account will be temporarily unavailable due to maintainance for the next few days so I may have to catch up on Monday or sign up with a different account. Sincerely Alan Horkan http://advogato.org/person/AlanHorkan/

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using SVG-View Widget in gtkmm apps
by John Taber 31 Jul '04

31 Jul '04

First let me say what a great job the whole development team is doing - Inkscape is one of the best open source projects going. And it lets a non-artist like me make decent looking icons - it's simply fun to use. I would like to use SVG in a gtkmm geographic mapping application - is the SVG View Widget part of the gtk toolset now ? Does it use librsvg to blt back the svg or does it have it's own renderer ? (I tried to follow the code but got lost). Thks. John

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[Fwd: Fwd: BOF: Inkscape: An Open Source Vector Graphics (SVG) Editor Overvi ew]
by Jon Phillips 31 Jul '04

31 Jul '04

SIGGRAPH BOF confirmed to my gmail account, arg! JC (not Jesus Christ, but JonCruz) are going to run a Birds of a Feather (BOF) meeting at SIGGRAPH on MON AUG 9. I'm pulling together notes and PR for this this weekend. FYI. I have a link for free passes to anyone in the LA area for this. Bryce and Co, are you going to have an Inkscape BOF at OSCON2004 in Portland? Jon -----Forwarded Message----- > From: jon phillips <phillipsjd@...400...> > To: jon@...235... > Subject: Fwd: BOF: Inkscape: An Open Source Vector Graphics (SVG) Editor Overvi ew > Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 21:34:26 -0700 > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Villalba, Marisa <mvillalba@...481...> > Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:03:20 -0500 > Subject: BOF: Inkscape: An Open Source Vector Graphics (SVG) Editor Overvi > ew > To: "phillipsjd@...400..." <phillipsjd@...400...> > Cc: "Villalba, Marisa" <mvillalba@...481...>, "Milgram, Alison" > <amilgram@...481...>, "sandramachuca@...127..." > <sandramachuca@...127...>, "GERRAW@...482..." > <gerraw@...483...> > > > Hi Jon > > Below if you official email confirmation for your BOF to be held at > the Holiday Inn City Center. Your contact at the hotel is Sandra > Machuca and I have copied her on this email. Please work directly with > her on any food/beverage or AV you would like to order for your > meeting. Also I did not indicate the room set you required since on > BOF meeting request form you listed several setups you were fine with. > Please let Sandra know which setup you would like. > Also you have missed the deadline to have your BOF listed in the > Program and Buyer's guide and kiosk but I will get your BOF added to > the website today. > > Thanks > Marisa > > > > 27 July 2004 > > Dear Jon > > > Thank you for your interest in participating in SIGGRAPH 2004. We are > excited to be back in the city of Los Angeles and look forward to > another successful event. This is the official confirmation letter for > the assignment of space for your meeting. > > > Please review the information below carefully: > > Group Name: Inkscape: An Open Source Vector Graphics (SVG) Editor Overview > Organization: Inkscape > Contact: Jon Phillips > > Address: > PO Box 948667 > La Jolla CA 92037 > United States, CA > > > Telephone: 858-361-2811 > Fax: not entered > Email: phillipsjd@...400... > > Location: Holiday Inn City Center > Room: Santa Monica > Reservation Time: 3:30pm-5:30pm > > Meeting Time: 4pm-5pm > > Date : Monday, 9 August > > > Room Setup: TBD > Attendance: 20 > > Hotel Contact: Sandra Machuca > Phone: 213-743-7621 x6617 > > Please instruct the contact(s) listed above regarding room setup, > food/beverage and any other special requirements you may have. Please > be aware that the group is responsible for all charges related to this > function. > > If you require audio visual services, we would like to recommend AVW, > the official audio visual vendor of SIGGRAPH 2004. You may contact > Wylie Gerrard via email at GERRAW@...484... > > Any changes of date or time and all cancellations MUST be made in > writing NO LATER THAN 19 July 2004 to my attention at the address > below or via e-mail. SIGGRAPH 2004 reserves the right to reassign > meeting space as necessary. > > If you have any questions, don't hesitate to get in touch. We look > forward to seeing you at SIGGRAPH 2004! > > Sincerely, > Marisa Villalba > SIGGRAPH Conference Management > Fax +1.312.673.6980 > mvillalba@...481... -- Jon Phillips PO BOX 948667 LA JOLLA, CA 92037 USA USA.PH.858.361.2811 jon@...235... http://www.rejon.org Inkscape (http://inkscape.org) Open Clip Art Library (www.openclipart.org) CVS Book (http://cvsbook.ucsd.edu/) Scale Journal (http://scale.ucsd.edu/)

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compiling CVS on windows
by John Cliff 31 Jul '04

31 Jul '04

Hi all, Just to let you know current CVS doesnt want to compile on native windows currently, got the latest libaries from bobs site, tried dling the latest mingw, but no joy. keep getting a bunch of token errors. The builds done by the cross compiler work fine, but aren't much help for doing devel. cheers John __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

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external binaries ?
by herve couvelard 30 Jul '04

30 Jul '04

Hello, I use inkscape almost everydays. that is a really great application. I convert all the windows users at my office to linux users. That was not that hard. I was 'forced' :-) to convert them from paintshoppro/illustrator to inkscape. That was quite easy too. Inkscape is such an friendly-user-app. We use it for cartography means : drawing polygons on rasters images. ok let's come to the question : Would it be possible to 'execute' an external binary on the active document? i read every mails for such a long time and aware (it's good to be aware) of the coming extension stuff. how will it work ? would it be possible to provide a 'simple' binary that do the job and just put it in some place ? (like C or C++ or whatever) what could the junction with inkscape be ? will all the changes made by the binary be updated in the preview immedilately ? how could that come from a menu in inkscape ? ok... why all these question ?? in fact i will have some times and needs in adding new features related to GIS (of course openGis specs compliant) and some new 'magic' operation such areas and so... the problems is i am not a c nor c++ prog as anyone on the list. I am realy used to php and web. I started to implement these operations on php-web-based : you upload the file and the not-that-magic-stuff was done. i am considering to make a php extension for that and therefore it could be, for some, inkscape-inside implemented. BUT (here comes the BUT again..) i can not dive into inkscape (i have not enought time to do it) and i am not sufficiently competent to do it and i didn't succeded in having a configure-make-ready-box for inkscape (very much dependances on a redhat 9). the easy way would be such an extension stuff and when it works as expected someone with much more skills could add a new stuff in inkscape open-gis related. Sorry for that long and bad-english mail. What do you think of it ? hervé

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0.39 release tells me 0.39cvs
by Taraben, Adib 29 Jul '04

29 Jul '04

When I use the inkscape win32 0.39 release (either zip or exe) I get the xml document attributes: inkscape:version 0.39cvs I wonder why? Adib.

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File-open dialog with a text field
by Bob Jamison 29 Jul '04

29 Jul '04

Here is a screenshot of a first attempt at adding a text entry of the file name to the file open dialog. http://troi.titan-aeu.com/~rjamison/inkscape/files/filedialog2.png The events for selection changed--->text field and text field <return> ---->selection ...have already been connected. I am sure that we will tweak this a lot during this cycle, but at least this shows that modifications to suit our needs can easily be accomplished. What I am really anticipating is the use of the same code for all architectures. Bob

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Thoughts about Patterns
by cedric 29 Jul '04

29 Jul '04

Hi everybody, Working on the Edit Menu part of the Manual (done but in french only, english version on CVS before end of July), i've made different tests on clone and patterns. These are great functionnalities. One may find pattern samples in the joined file. May be it could be incorporated as a library (the same way markers did). I leave it to our great developers. But, if alloweded, some things appeared to be difficult for me : - first of all : when creating many patterns, it is hard to remember the creation order, so that i've been 'confused' in the fillsettings dialog. Because there is no preview of the pattern in the dropdown menu, one may wish to name the pattern without using XML editor (some don't like coding!! or don't understand SVG at all) : may be the best could be to make a dialog appear to enter a name just after using the Edit/tile command. - second : The original object is set to rect filled with the pattern. It is OK, but often, i don't need it anymore in the drawing. It could be hidden. - third : (and it is not due to pattern filling i think but) but when a pattern is not used anymore, it is automatically cleared from defs. But should I always really want to remove it ? The autoClean functionnality is very good, but we may find rules about its use. I will now be working on a Symbol (clone) Library. I'll see from Sodipodi, I guess they've done may things this way since few months. Thanks a lot. Cedric

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Compiling libGC with c++ support
by Steven P. Ulrick 29 Jul '04

29 Jul '04

Hello, Everyone :) While attempting to update Inkscape from CVS, I discovered the new dependency on libgc. I eventually found what I think is the right package: libGC-0.3-1.tar After untarring it, I ran ./configure --help, and I found nothing about how to compile libgc with c++ support. I proceeded to read README and INSTALL in the libGC directory, and I found nothing helpful. I then checked the Inkscape news groups, where I found references to the new libgc dependency, references to compiling with c++ support, but nothing about HOW to compile with c++ support. My next step was to subscribe to this list and ask this question :) I am running Fedora Core 2 with all official updates installed. This is a full installation, not an upgrade, and I chose to install EVERY package. Also, the prefix that I am attempting to compile libgc for is the same one that I am compiling Inkscape for: /usr If I've left anything out, please let me know, and I'll be glad to provide that information. For your information, I had been successfully compiling Inkscape on this system up till and including my last attempt preceding the addition of the libgc dependency. Oooops, almost forgot the error message I get when I attempt to configure Inkscape. I got the exact same message before and after my attempts at installing libgc: checking for GC_malloc in -lgc... no configure: error: libgc (the Boehm Conservative Collector), built with C++ support, is needed to compile inkscape In conclusion, my installation of libGC appeared to succeed, but since I didn't know how to build it with C++ support, I got the error message quoted above. Anyway, let me know if you need any more information on this. Steven P. Ulrick

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To outline?
by Karl Ove Hufthammer 28 Jul '04

28 Jul '04

I've looked, but couldn't find where the message 'Select some paths to outline.' is used in the UI. The translators comment says that '"to outline" means "to convert stroke to path"'. Isn't this the same as the 'Convert stroke to path' command? The reason I'm asking is that I'm wondering what words to use in my translation. -- Karl Ove Hufthammer

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Two small errors in 'Basic' tutorial
by Karl Ove Hufthammer 28 Jul '04

28 Jul '04

I'm currently translating the 'Basic' tutorial, and found two small errors: One place it says: The commands to open dialogs are all in the Dialogs menu [...] There are no such menu (anymore). And near the top it talks about the 'Help | Keys and mouse' menu-item, but the rest of the menu-items are written with a '>', e.g. 'File > New'. It should be changed to be consistent. (Personally I prefer a '|' everywhere. But perhaps there are style guidelines for this in GNOME?) -- Karl Ove Hufthammer

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New language
by Arpad Biro 28 Jul '04

28 Jul '04

Hi, A new translation file, nn.po has been committed. I also modified (inserted the "nn" language ID) configure.in and po/Makefile.mingw. Please let me know if something else needs to be done. Arpad Biro __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Article mentioning Inkscape
by Bob Jamison 28 Jul '04

28 Jul '04

I noticed another mention of Inkscape here: http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=04/07/19/214206 Bob

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heartfelt thanks for creating inkscape (fwd)
by Bryce Harrington 28 Jul '04

28 Jul '04

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 21:38:55 -0400 From: Phil Shapiro <pshapiro@...467...> To: <bryce@...1...> Subject: heartfelt thanks for creating inkscape thanks a megabyte for your visionary work in creating inkscape. i discovered this amazing software last week and have been talking it up on various national email lists i'm on. (see below a message i sent this evening to the list of Community Technology Centers' Network - CTCNet), one of the largest nonprofit organizations working to bridge the digital divide.) CTCNet's annual conference is going to be in cleveland in june, 2005, in case you (or any of the othe inkscape developers) might be in the area at that time. it's likely more than 1000 technology access activists will be attending this conference. stephen quinn is the wonderful person organizing this conference. squinn@...468... thanks again. you've inspired many by creating inkscape and your creation will unleash a river of artistic creativity by many who cannot afford a commercial vector drawing program. - phil shapiro arlington, virginia ----- Forwarded message from Phil Shapiro <pshapiro@...467...> ----- Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 19:33:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Phil Shapiro <pshapiro@...467...> Reply-To: Phil Shapiro <pshapiro@...467...> Subject: [CTC] become known for teaching open source graphics software To: "" <ctcmembers@...468...> hi everyone - is your organization doing cool things with low-cost or no-cost graphics drawing software, such as http://www.inkscape.org? if so, one way to get public visibility for your pioneering work is to create some tutorials or articles for the graphics section of about.com. see http://graphicssoft.about.com/library/nosearch/blucsubmit.htm for example, tap into the creative talents of youth or adults at your center to create some beautiful art using inkscape. then use camtasia studio 2 (for windows) to create some narrated flash tutorials explaining how others can use the drawing tools in inkscape to create their own drawings. in these tutorials explain both the technical use of the drawing tools and explain artistic tips and techniques. people will be very grateful to learn both kinds of knowledge. create these tutorials in english and spanish, but also in vietnamese, amharic and korean. place these tutorials on the web and link to them from your organization's web site. submit them to the about.com graphics web site. after about.com accepts your submission (they probably will if has merit), send out a press release that your organization is helping to teach the world how to use open source drawing software. is there a journalist who would find it interesting to write a story that explains how the youths and adults at a nonprofit organization are creating knowledge to help unleash creativity and empowerment for people worldwide using no-cost software that anyone can use on donated computers? yes, i think there is. would a television station find it easy to do a news story where there is readily available, beautiful graphics that is an integral part of a story of community members teaching each other things? yes, it would. - phil what kind of art can you create with vector drawing programs? this gallery shows some nice examples. http://www.eazydraw.com/gallery.htm macromedia flash. adobe illustrator and macromedia freehand are all vector drawing programs, too. for extra credit points, organize a community event at a community meeting place (outside of your own site) where a no-cost workshop explains how to use a no-cost drawing programs. an appropriate title for such an event would be: "drawing the community together." would local civic leaders take notice of such a workshop? yes, they would. -- Phil Shapiro pshapiro@...467... http://www.his.com/pshapiro/ (personal) http://teachme.blogspot.com (weblog) http://guitarlessons.blogspot.com/ (guitar lessons) "Wisdom starts with wonder." - Socrates ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@...468... with the message: unsubscribe ctcmembers youremailaddresshere ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Phil Shapiro pshapiro@...467... http://www.his.com/pshapiro/ (personal) http://teachme.blogspot.com (weblog) http://guitarlessons.blogspot.com/ (guitar lessons) "Everything you can imagine is real." - Pablo Picasso

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Navigating on the canvas and other things
by bulia byak 28 Jul '04

28 Jul '04

> >> It's crutial that it zooms in, right where the cursor points! > > > > Sure. I just don't have a wheel mouse otherwise I would have fixed > > this long ago. > > How do you survive? Tablet + pen :) Actually, the funny thing is that I did put in the code for mousewheel to zoom into cursor point, and I have no idea why it does not work. It's very simple, see the sp_desktop_zoom_relative_keep_point() call in src/event-context.cpp line 517. The same function works OK for zooming by middle-click (see line 380), it does zoom into cursor point. Maybe the event->scroll.x/y fields are bogus for a wheel event. If someone can have a look at it for me that would be nice.

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[Fwd: [Inkscape-user] Can`t build inkscape from cvs]
by MenTaLguY 28 Jul '04

28 Jul '04

-----Forwarded Message----- From: Makurin Roman <koshka_enott@...473...> To: Inkscape User List <inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: [Inkscape-user] Can`t build inkscape from cvs Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 02:52:52 +0400 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I can`t build inkscape from cvs on my gentoo box. Here my configuration: sys-devel/autoconf-2.59-r4 sys-devel/automake-1.8.5-r1 sys-devel/gcc-3.3.4-r1 sys-libs/glibc-2.3.4.20040619 x11-libs/gtk+-2.4.4 dev-cpp/gtkmm-2.4.3 Any advice ? - -- Registered Linux User: 355904 ICQ: 105266647 JID: drolyk@...189... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBBtzHufAZCWBpz4kRAqo8AJ9/6GYlf2mdKYWB3PA71PZWyxlu3QCeN9N1 h0sO2HO7knxDOz5YdyRowNg= =hn1s -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [Inkscape-user] Make fails - freetype problem?
by MenTaLguY 28 Jul '04

28 Jul '04

On Tue, 2004-07-27 at 07:21, John Mellor wrote: > Well, thanks for that, but does anyone know how to fix it? Am I the only > one with this problem, and if so why? I uninstalled my freetype2 and > installed the latest - 2.1.9 - from source and the error is the same. > Do I need an older freetype2 or what? For now, probably. I'm using version 2.1.5. IIRC, the fix, basically, is to include <ft2build.h> before any other freetype headers ... however, I am not sure whether that will break the build with older freetype versions. :/ -mental

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