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RE: [Inkscape-devel] code cleanup
by bulia byak 06 Feb '04

06 Feb '04

>long time). Would it not be better to knock out the bugs and #if 0 and >then put the rest till next release (bug hunt). Sounds fine to me. Especially fixing bugs. >I think we need to get a >stable release up with bool. ops asap. By the way, Lauris is working on his own version of bool ops. If we're serious about competing with Sodipodi, we must be the first to roll out a release with booleans. (By the way, I noticed that Sodipodi development has certainly sped up since the birth of Inkscape - that's how competition works.) _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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drawing tools broken
by bulia byak 06 Feb '04

06 Feb '04

I think this frenzy of replacements and cleanups should have been done after a release, not now. It's dangerous. Right now Inkscape is severely broken: try to draw a rect or ellipse or spiral - they always start from coordinate origin. This is a visible bug, but I'm terrified to think how many more hidden ones were introduced by all this activity. And we wanted to do a release soon. Please someone fix the drawing tools problem ASAP! _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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Re: undoing text node changes
by bulia byak 06 Feb '04

06 Feb '04

>Well, as a matter of principle SPXMLViewContent shouldn't have to know >anything about desktops -- the calls to sp_desktop_done() should be >happening in src/dialogs/xml-tree.cpp. Not desktop, but document! Surely it must know its document - if it's editing this document. So what's the best way to figure out the document? Can we -> our way from a repr to its document? Or can we pass the SPDocument pointer in a data attached to the dialog or widget? > > 2. Now that the text node changes are undoable, undoing editing a text > > object in XML editor has the same problem as in this bug: > > > > >http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=861462&group_id=93… > > > > That is, if you create a text node, switch to any other tool, and then > > reproduce this bug's sequence but using XML editor instead of F8, the >result > > is the same. Which proves that the source of the problem is not text >tool, > > but the wrong way text node changes are logged and undone by the repr > > logger. It was only obvious in text tool because no other tools >create/edit > > text nodes. Can you please have a look into it? > >Sourceforge is down again, so I can't get to the bug tracker. Could you >please summarize the bug for me in more detail? SF is up again. Baically the order of undo actions is wrong, and some actions may be lost, when text nodes are edited (no matter whether it's done by text tool or by XML editor). > >-mental ><< signature.asc >> _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Remaining Tasks for 0.37 Release
by bulia byak 06 Feb '04

06 Feb '04

>problem but I didn't file a report yet So please do, so we don't forget about it. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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proposal: text spacing keys
by bulia byak 05 Feb '04

05 Feb '04

Now that the letterspacing support is in, the next thing I will do is the proper support for dx and dy attributes (it's sort-of supported now but actually useless, because only single values are supported, not lists as per SVG spec). This will allow kerning pairs of letters in a string as well as raising/lowering of characters on the string. With all this, I need a set of keys for doing all the space adjustments in a text object from keyboard. These keys must be as consistent as possible with the rest of Inkscape. So, when you are editing text on the canvas: Alt+<, Alt+> expand/contract current line (not the entire text object - I think it's more useful this way) by 1 pixel by adjusting letter spacing Shift+Alt+<, Shift+Alt+> same, by 10 pixels (The above keys are already implemented - you can test them) Alt+[, Alt+] expand/contract text object vertically by 1 pixel by adjusting line spacing Shift+Alt+[, Shift+Alt+] same, by 10 pixels Alt+left, Alt+right kern closer/farther the pair of characters before and after the cursor by 1 pixel Shift+Alt+left, Shift+Alt+right same, by 10 pixels Alt+up, Alt+down raise/lower the character after cursor by 1 pixel Shift+Alt+up, Shift+Alt+down same, by 10 pixels All these movements are in pixels (as always with Alt), so the actual distance depends on zoom level. Zoom in for finer movement. Suggestions, comments? _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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tutorial font
by bulia byak 05 Feb '04

05 Feb '04

Re: bug 890040 Actually the only guaranteed way to resolve the font mismatch problem is to support SVG fonts and embed fonts with documents. We will have to do this ultimately, if we want to be taken seriously as a design app. Other than that, we can be only "reasonably" sure. E.g. a user can take a Dingbats font and rename it to Times on his system. What we can do now: - Nathan, since you have access to different machines, could you please do a few tests to figure out what is the most common text font that would look OK for the tutorial? Just do a global search-and-replace of "Times New Roman" to any other font in tutorial.svg and see if it loads OK. I used Times New Roman simply because I have it, but I have little idea of what fonts arrive with modern distributions. Of course if anyone else can do this on his/her system(s) that would be great. Especially valuable are "bare bones" systems with no additional fonts installed. - Having default font configurable is probably not difficult to do, but it must be done in the libnrtype font matcher (so it does not take the first available font but looks up e.g. options.defaultfont) which I haven't looked at yet. Nathan, since you did some work in libnrtype recently, maybe you can hack it up? Or anyone? _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Re: bug 889618
by bulia byak 05 Feb '04

05 Feb '04

> > I did try hitting escape cos that works in lotus notes... > >I think that does suggest it might be worthwhile to bind escape to >closing them in any case? This was discussed in November. I even committed that but then we decided that Esc should move focus from dialog to canvas without closing, so I changed to that behavior. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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Status report on front page broken
by "Áki G. Karlsson" 05 Feb '04

05 Feb '04

Hi all Small matter: Just wanted to let you know that the link to the status report on the front page of the Inkscape website is broken... http://www.inkscape.org/status/status_20040131.php Best regards Áki

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Grid snap feature
by Frederic Rodrigo 05 Feb '04

05 Feb '04

Hi, Do you reactive the snap to grid feature in the next release? I think it's a usefull tool, but in actually CVS doesn't have it. Fred.

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] #if 0 code cleanup work
by bulia byak 05 Feb '04

05 Feb '04

Hello, >Changed transient policy to 0 as a default. Seems to fix the sawfish bug. Are you sure everyone wants it as the default? This is a serious change that should have been discussed on the list first. When I first implemented transient dialogs a couple months ago, everyone seemed pleased with that, and this sawfish complaint is the first one ever received about that feature. I think sawfish users can easily set it to 0 in their local configs, while the majority of users will be disappointed to see that unsinkable dialogs are sinkable again. So I suggest that you reverse that change. And if you want to make it easier for people to set their own dialogs-on-top policy, you could work on the preferences dialog instead, as described here: http://inkscape.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?PreferencesDialog _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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letter-spacing
by bulia byak 05 Feb '04

05 Feb '04

I just committed support for the letter-spacing CSS property. No GUI yet, but you can set letter-spacing on a text object via XML editor and it will work. (I just really needed it for my work, so decided to see if it can be done quickly, and indeed it can.) Please test! One problem is the em and ex units. I simply copied the Lauris' code which sets em equal to the font size and ex to 0.5 of the font size. Of course we need a proper way to extract the real em and ex values from the current font, but I don't know how to do that and if it's possible at all. (Or can Pango text help with this?) Any help will be appreciated. _________________________________________________________________ Learn how to choose, serve, and enjoy wine at Wine @ MSN. http://wine.msn.com/

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] Re: bug 889618
by bulia byak 05 Feb '04

05 Feb '04

>Like where does it tell me to use any of those keys? Like in Help > Keyboard shortcuts. It's not done yet but will be done for the upcoming release. >Why can't they just have an X in the corner like nearly every other >window?? Because your window manager chose not to allow them to. Most other window managers (like the default ones of Gnome and KDE) don't remove the decorations from transient windows. Complain to your window manager developers, or search its configuration - it may have a switch for configuring this. Please change <group id="transientpolicy" value="1" /> to <group id="transientpolicy" value="0" /> in your ~/.inkscape/preferences.xml and report if this fixes the problem for you. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoi…

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] #if 0 code cleanup work
by bulia byak 05 Feb '04

05 Feb '04

>johan: *-context.cpp files >bulia: knotholder.cpp, nodepath.cpp, rubberband.cpp, object-edit.cpp, >and object-ui.cpp I did all of these. >rejon: libnrtype/ I suggest that we leave this one for later, simply because none of us can claim to completely understand libnr/libnrtype. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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bug 889618
by bulia byak 05 Feb '04

05 Feb '04

Nathan, Could you please test the solution to this bug on the original reporter's Sawfish WM? If it works acceptably I will close the bug. Now there is options.transientpolicy option that can be set to 0 (default is 1) to not set transient property on dialogs. No GUI yet, maybe in the next version. But you can set the option already by editing your ~/.inkscape/preferences.xml. By the way, even with sinking non-transient windows, you can convenienetly emerge all active dialogs by pressing F12 twice. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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undoing text node changes
by bulia byak 05 Feb '04

05 Feb '04

Mental: I noticed that editing a text node in the XML editor does not complete transaction (unlike e.g. editing an attribute) and thus breaks undo. So I inserted sp_document_done() into sp_xmlview_content_changed() in widgets/sp-xmlview-content.cpp. This fixed the broken undo, but: 1. I could not find out what document we are editing, so I did the document_done function on SP_DT_DOCUMENT (SP_ACTIVE_DESKTOP). Can you rewrite it without ACTIVE_DESKTOP? 2. Now that the text node changes are undoable, undoing editing a text object in XML editor has the same problem as in this bug: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=861462&group_id=93… That is, if you create a text node, switch to any other tool, and then reproduce this bug's sequence but using XML editor instead of F8, the result is the same. Which proves that the source of the problem is not text tool, but the wrong way text node changes are logged and undone by the repr logger. It was only obvious in text tool because no other tools create/edit text nodes. Can you please have a look into it? _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] Grid toggle / snapping keyboard shortcut
by bulia byak 05 Feb '04

05 Feb '04

>Would it be feasible to have the # key toggle both the grid visibility >and grid snapping at the same time? Good idea, added to my todo _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoi…

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] Re: Wireframe View
by bulia byak 05 Feb '04

05 Feb '04

> >Does Inkscape have a "wireframe" or "preview/outline mode"? This is again > >extremely useful when drawings get complex with many overlapping objects. >It > >may allready be present but I have not found it yet. Please let me know >if > >it is here. > >I am pretty sure the answer is no. However, would someone confirm this >please? Not that I know of. >From a users point of view this command is extremely valuable. > >One use is that it enables the user to pick an object that is buried inside >a heap of other overlapping objects without having to go through object >re-arrangements. For this, I will program "select under" by ctrl-alt-clicking in selector. Not ideal, but works in many situations. Stay in one place and ctrl-alt-click repeatedly watching the statusbar that shows what is selected, it will cycle through the entire stack of objects at this point. And lest I forget, the raise/lower commands need to be rewritten so that the selection, too, cycles through only the objects that overlap it, not all the objects of the document as now (this presently makes lower/raise almost unusable in large documents). _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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[Fwd: [Sodipodi-list] basics]
by Jonathan Phillips 04 Feb '04

04 Feb '04

FYI! I sent her an email... jon -----Forwarded Message----- From: sosman <sourceforge@...186...> To: sodipodi-list(a)lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Sodipodi-list] basics Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 20:05:22 +1100 I am having difficulty with even the most basic things with sodi podi. I am sure it can do what I want judging by pics people have done with it but I have almost zero experience with vector drawing packages. The kind of graphic I want to make is embarassingly simple, in fact I got something looking like what I want at http://metrak.com/tmp/no.svg but I cheated by just using a circle and line then adjusting the stroke width. I suspect when I send this to my print shop to cut out a vinyl mask the result won't be what I would like. I guess I really need to make the outline of the shape into vectors. Some basic things I haven't figured out: - how to construct an arc with the "circle, ellipse and arc" tool. - how to join the ends of an arc with a straight line. - how to centre concentric circles and then make sure the line is symmetrical. If any one could point me at a basic tutorial or give me a heads up on these newbie questions that would be most appreciated. cheers ------------------------------------------------------- The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn _______________________________________________ Sodipodi-list mailing list Sodipodi-list(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sodipodi-list -- Jonathan Phillips <jon@...15...>

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tutorial ready
by bulia byak 04 Feb '04

04 Feb '04

The Help > Tutorial is mostly written, please read and criticize. It's pretty big, but not complete of course. Maybe later I'll break it into a basic tutorial and an advanced tutorial. I'm also interested to see how it comes up with regards to fonts, window size, etc. Posting a screenshot of the tutorial to the site would probably make sense. BUG: When I zoom out from the tutorial page, it ultimately crashes. This looks like an instance of this bug: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=859364&group_id=9… which could not be reproduced outside of my machine. So please test the tutorial by zooming out as far as you can, and report if you get a crash. Now I will write an XSLT transformation to automatically generate an SVG page with the keyboard shortcuts for reference, also to be linked from Help. I think it's nicer and more instructive to present Inkscape help in Inkscape, instead of running an external browser :) _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoi…

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O'Reilly Open Source Convention
by Ted Gould 04 Feb '04

04 Feb '04

Okay, So I'm going to submit an abstract to present Inkscape at the O'Reilly Open Source Convention. I think it'll be good publicity for the project (with many people that wouldn't see it otherwise) and it's a cheap conference to go to as I can stay with Bryce ;) Here's the info on the conference: http://conferences.oreillynet.com/os2004/ And here is my first shot at an abstract: http://www.inkscape.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OSCon2004Abstract Ideas? Comments? Thoughts? Free at the end of July to come to Portland? --Ted

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#if 0 code cleanup work
by Bryce Harrington 04 Feb '04

04 Feb '04

Hi all, In the Roadmap for 0.37 one of the code-cleanup tasks we identified was to go through the codebase and examine some dead code that has been disabled by putting it into '#if 0' blocks. It's kind of grunt work, but it really needs to be done. We could put it off for a future release, but it'll still be gruntwork. I figure why not get it out of the way? If we all chip in, it won't be that big of a deal to finish. We'd asked for volunteers earlier but at this point maybe it'll be best to just parcel it out. I've split the review work up into a dozen sub-tasks so we can divide the work amongst ourselves. I did one section (the 'widgets/' subdir) and found it only took an hour or two to complete. Could I ask each of the following people to tackle the indicated sections? johan: *-context.cpp files ted: desktop*.cpp and svg-view.cpp files tvon: sp-gradient.cpp, sp-root.cpp ishmal: file.h, interface.cpp, geom.cpp, inkscape.cpp, and style.cpp pjrm: *-chemistry.cpp and seltrans.cpp bulia: knotholder.cpp, nodepath.cpp, rubberband.cpp, object-edit.cpp, and object-ui.cpp bryce: widgets/, dialogs/ mental: display/ rejon: libnrtype/ This then will leave four remaining areas for whomever gets feeling ambitious, or for anyone that'd like to participate that isn't in the above list: * bonobo/ * svg/ * helper/ * xml/ To do the work, basically just grep for 'if 0' in your section to find the files, and examine each. If you aren't sure what the code does, ask on Jabber, IRC, or the mailing list. Delete the code unless it seems valuable and worth keeping, in which case please write a detailed comment describing a) what it does, b) why it's worth keeping, and c) what needs to be done to bring it back into the codebase proper. Thanks, Bryce

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] inkview slideshow - was fullscreen
by bulia byak 04 Feb '04

04 Feb '04

>Apparently most had already been written. I've put up a page on wiki about >it >with the shortcuts: >http://www.inkscape.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Inkview Could you make F11 toggle fullscreen, as in the main app, without requiring shift+F11? _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Re: bug 889618
by bulia byak 04 Feb '04

04 Feb '04

>Incidently, sawfish is (I believe) the default window manager for Gnome. AFAIK they changed to Metacity. _________________________________________________________________ Check out the coupons and bargains on MSN Offers! http://shopping.msn.com/softcontent/softcontent.aspx?scmId=1418

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undoing text node changes
by bulia byak 03 Feb '04

03 Feb '04

Mental: I noticed that editing a text node in the XML editor does not complete transaction (unlike e.g. editing an attribute) and thus breaks undo. So I inserted sp_document_done() into sp_xmlview_content_changed() in widgets/sp-xmlview-content.cpp. This fixed the broken undo, but: 1. I could not find out what document we are editing, so I did the document_done function on SP_DT_DOCUMENT (SP_ACTIVE_DESKTOP). Can you rewrite it without ACTIVE_DESKTOP? 2. Now that the text node changes are undoable, undoing editing a text object in XML editor has the same problem as in this bug: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=861462&group_id=93… That is, if you create a text node, switch to any other tool, and then reproduce this bug's sequence but using XML editor instead of F8, the result is the same. Which proves that the source of the problem is not text tool, but the wrong way text node changes are logged and undone by the repr logger. It was only obvious in text tool because no other tools create/edit text nodes. Can you please have a look into it? _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoi…

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] Inscape Status Jan 31, 2004
by bulia byak 03 Feb '04

03 Feb '04

>Project Status Saturday, January 31, 2004 Very nice! Would you post it to the site please? There seems to be a shortage of web site updates - this one will make up for it a bit. BTW notice how the lines of code are decreasing - a welcome result of dropping unneeded dialogs and trimming dead code. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/photos&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjo…

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