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versioning consensus
by unknown＠example.com 04 Feb '05

04 Feb '05

Incidentally, had we ever reached a consensus on calling this release 0.41.0 rather than 0.41? A _LOT_ of people seem to be reading 0.40 as 0.4.0, so making the .0 explicit would remove the ambiguity... -mental

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Another Inkscape mention
by Bob Jamison 04 Feb '05

04 Feb '05

Hi, all, Saw an article mentioning Inkscape on Newsforge today: http://software.newsforge.com/software/05/02/02/215259.shtml Bob

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win32 compile problem
by Adib Taraben 04 Feb '05

04 Feb '05

I get following error in the current CVS: in the current MinGW compiler there is no such io/sys.h file HTH, Adib. dialogs/export.cpp:53:20: io/sys.h: No such file or directory dialogs/export.cpp: In function `void sp_export_export_clicked(GtkButton*, GtkOb ject*)': dialogs/export.cpp:972: error: `file_test' is not a member of `Inkscape::IO' dialogs/export.cpp:974: error: `sanitizeString' is not a member of `Inkscape::IO ' dialogs/export.cpp:1022: error: `sanitizeString' is not a member of `Inkscape::I O' mingw32-make[1]: *** [dialogs/export.o] Error 1 mingw32-make[1]: Leaving directory `E:/projekte/inkscape/src' mingw32-make: *** [all] Error 2

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Object Rotation
by Aaron Spike 04 Feb '05

04 Feb '05

I have a few questions/comments about rotation. First a confession: for the last week I thought the "snap to angle with ctrl" function was broken. It wasn't. I had the snapping set at 2 degrees and the angle indicator in the status bar follows pointer. So I didn't notice that the bbox actually was snapping and I convinced myself it wasn't snapping because of the numbers didn't snap. The point is I'm wrong a lot. But would it make sense if the number in the status bar snapped with ctrl too? Or what if the number followed the object instead of the mouse? Would that make more sense or is the current behavior what one would expect? Second, what would be the pros and cons of allowing a user to choose arbitrary degrees for snapping? I was just working on a pentagonal design. I though "Hey, this will be easy. I'll just set the snapping to 72 degrees. 72 is a nice even number, right." But it wasn't a choice. I suppose you can't have every factor of 360 in the list. In the end I was saved by the tile-clones dialog which doesn't have a list. Aaron Spike

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Status needed for ReleaseNotes
by Bryce Harrington 04 Feb '05

04 Feb '05

One other task needed before we get too much further is to update the Roadmap. Mental, Ted, Ishmal, and others, can you give us some quick status on the following items? [Perl, Python scripting; XSLT] [embed/outbed, gamma scripts] [Effects menu] [extensions warning and logging] [Namespace changes] [Making reprs private] Also, Arpad, can you give us a list of the translations that were updated from 0.40 to 0.41? Thanks, Bryce

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Fwd: [Inkscape-user] Line marker colour
by bulia byak 04 Feb '05

04 Feb '05

forwarding to devel too.. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: bulia byak <buliabyak@...400...> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 08:51:14 -0400 Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Line marker colour To: inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 13:45:17 +0100, Arnout Standaert <arnout.standaert@...687...> wrote: > is there any intention of fixing bug #995815 for the 0.41 release? It's > the bug where line markers (for instance, arrowheads) don't follow the > colour of the line they're attached to. Not for 0.41 for sure, it's almost out. In fact it's not really a bug, it's just a limitation of SVG which needs to be worked around. This workaround has to be quite complex, though doable. We just need a coder who would be motivated enough to dive into it. My comments in that bug give a rough plan for attacking it. To All: Note that the people in that bug started offering real monetary awards for whoever will do this first. So, if you want to make some money, here's a good task for you! :)

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embed/outbed, gamma scripts ??
by Bryce Harrington 04 Feb '05

04 Feb '05

What is "embed/outbed" and "gamma scripts" ? I see these mentioned in the release notes, but with no elaboration... This is also the first I've heard of them. Bryce

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locale madness
by Kees Cook 04 Feb '05

04 Feb '05

So, to really confuse things, I decided to go see if The Gimp under windows would blow up the way we are (were). It does not. So I then removed all the .DLL's from my inkscape directory so it would use the install GTK defaults. It worked like a charm. No utf8 errors, nothing. Very interesting. -- Kees Cook @outflux.net

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Info needed from Ishmal for release notes
by Bryce Harrington 04 Feb '05

04 Feb '05

Bob, can you say a few words about the status of scripting and XSLT for us to use in the ReleaseNotes? I.e. what can users make use of, and what level of functionality will be available in this release? Thanks, Bryce

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Basic tasks ?
by Bryce Harrington 04 Feb '05

04 Feb '05

On Wed, 2 Feb 2005, Ashwin Bharambe wrote: > Hi Bryce, > > > Another area we will need a lot of help in fairly soon is with upgrading > > the UI to gtkmm. This will involve a lot of meat-and-potatos C++ class > > creation and conversion of C code into OOP style. Presently this work > > is going on in a separate cvs module but it's scheduled for integration > > within about a week. If you're interested in working on this, let me > > know and I can give more details. It should be pretty straightforward > > work, and will be seeing progress rapidly, so it could be fun. :-) > > I would be interested in more details for this. Basically, once in a > while, it feels good to do "simple" things and get something useful > done. :) Let me know if and how I could help out here. Great! This work will begin in earnest after we release 0.41, but you can get involved now easily by downloading and tinkering with the inkscape_gtkmm codebase, and/or learning Gtkmm via the www.gtkmm.org site. If you're anxious to work on something with inkscape_gtkmm, and willing to take on a more challenging effort, I posted a few tasks to this list a couple weeks ago, you could look through. For example: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=6260552&forum_id=360… http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=6260551&forum_id=360… Those include directions for checking out the code, too. Also, look in the PLAN document within the codebase for some tasks and projects (esp. at the end of the file). > > * Cairo Gtk Canvas - A long term project we have talked about is to > > replace our internal renderer with Cairo, but there's a ton of R&D > > experimentation needed to get there. If you like working from a > > blank sheet of paper and just coming up with a lot of good ideas > > that others can build off of later, this would be a good > > opportunity. > > How would one start here? I briefly tried figuring out how exactly > livarot is used within inkscape at this moment - is there a > well-specified layer here? If you could get me started on a brief > outline of what the goals are, I am willing to spend considerable > amount of time performing experimentation with cairo. This would be great. I think you have already made some progress at this but I can give some additional random info: * Cairo is itself composed of several libraries that each provide different wrappers atop the core. For instance, the SVG bindings are in a library that sits atop the more underlying cairo bits. * We need to understand exactly which cairo pieces are required, how they're packaged, and how we can distribute them to users. For example, what pieces would we need to distribute to Windows users? * There is a GtkCairo lib, that you looked at the other day, but actually we need a full Canvas. What exactly does this mean? How would we go about packaging such a thing? * I believe I saw that there is a Qt Canvas for Cairo. Is there any possibility of sharing code between this and a Gtk Canvas? * What portions of the existing Inkscape codebase would get subsumed into a GtkCairoCanvas object? What would be most appropriate to keep out at a different level? In general, the idea behind creating a gtk cairo canvas would be to enable things like these: * A game developer could use it to render and manipulate the graphical components in their game. * A project aimed at creating a shared whiteboard project could tie a canvas to the Jabber message protocol stream to enable interactive drawing functionality. * A company wishing to provide their customers with an application showing attractive, dynamic graphs and diagrams could use it for drawing this information as it is broadcast to the client app. * An application for viewing/managing rack mounted computer hardware could use it for displaying a top-down view of the data center, which could be interactively clicked on to view front-views of the racks, and with further clicking to see individual hosts in the racks, usage/performance graphs, machine statistics, and wiring diagrams. Of course, in addition, the canvas would provide rich functionality for Inkscape to use it for editing SVG documents. ;-) Bryce

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