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proposed change to icons
by Ben Crowell 03 Jan '05

03 Jan '05

Bryce wrote: >Since our development policy is "patch first, discuss later", I don"t >think we should make a decision about the defaults until the options >were all available for review. I've committed changes to eight of the icons (rotate, flip, raise, and lower), and that's all the changes I want to make. I'll leave it up to others to decide whether keep these new versions as is, tweak them further, or revert them completely to Bulia's versions. AFAIK, there is currently no mechanism for maintaining multiple versions of the icons from which users can choose. Mine are the current defaults, but if someone else wants to create a multiple-icon-option mechanism, and then debate which set should be the default, that's fine.

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Suggestion for the preferences dialog
by Bryce Harrington 03 Jan '05

03 Jan '05

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004, Andreas Nilsson wrote: > >What approach did you use to create this mockup? > > > >I gave a shot at trying to mock up something with glade, but with > >disappointing results. However this definitely looks doable. > > > >Bryce > > > > > Well, I used the Gimp... Cool, it looks really good. I'm not sure if we'll be able to replicate it exactly, but I think we should strive to get as close as we can - this looks extremely good. > I am trying to learn Glade, but so far, all my attempts have been > unsuccesfull. Yeah same here, I thought it might provide a shortcut to having to implement the tree management stuff, but no such luck. It does not appear to generate code for managing tree widgets, and the stuff that it can do well is reasonably straightforward to do by hand. Anyway, so I'd say, stick with gimp. ;-) > I do really hope that I have not created an uncodable monster here. :) > - Andreas Nilsson Nah, it'll just be a considerable challenge. :-) In fact, I had noticed earlier that we needed tree-oriented editing dialogs for several other purposes - the XML tree, layers, extensions, and possibly keyboard layouts. I was going to emulate the XML editor design, but what you've done for the preferences dialog looks like it provides the same basic capabilities, and I'm thinking that if we can implement this design, we can reuse it in at least 4 places. One alteration I'm considering in order to support the other kinds of dialogs is a toolbar on the top of the dialog (see the XML editor). For the XML editor this is used for adding/moving/deleting nodes. How do you think we could use this in the preferences dialog? Perhaps the help button could be moved up there (saving some space on the bottom of the screen?) Perhaps an 'export preferences' function? 'restore defaults'? The other thing I'm wondering is that some people are going to really like the extra space between widgets in the dialog (and it helps us adhere to the HIG, as you point out), however others will prefer more concise use of space in order to maximize the dialogs they can have open at once. Preferences are unlikely to be something people will want to have up all the time, and same with extensions, however with the XML editor and layers I'm not as sure - what do you think? Bryce

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Volunteer work and an idea how to get into existing code bases
by Felix Rabe 03 Jan '05

03 Jan '05

Hi Bryce, It's a shame that I only saw your calls for volunteer work now that you replied to them yourself... But I think this is an excellent idea to invite new developers! There needs to be more of it, or maybe it just needs to be more visible (like with a tag in the subject, eg. "[CFV]" for "Call For Volunteers"). In fact, I was looking for an easy way to familiarize myself with existing (poorly or barely documented) code bases and came up with this (as yet sadly unimplemented) idea: Look for a bug that has been fixed sometime in CVS and get a diff for the fix. I think it might be another good invitation and might add value to code documentation if some good (ie. easy) fixes and enhancements were pointed out in the Wiki by the developers that commited them to CVS or by the newbies that found the diffs and found them to be straightforward. If I someday get to implement this idea, should I start a Wiki page? (This might take a few months though...) Or is somebody else willing to do it? Or is it a not-so-god (bad) idea altogether? Greetings, Felix

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Open Clip Art Library Release 0.09 Announcement :: http://www.openclipart.org
by Jon Phillips 03 Jan '05

03 Jan '05

*PLEASE FORWARD* Open Clip Art Library Release 0.09 Announcement http://www.openclipart.org Release 0.09 of the Open Clip Art Library is now available for download on the site as an individual package: http://www.openclipart.org/downloads/openclipart-0.09.tar.gz http://www.openclipart.org/downloads/openclipart-0.09.zip This new package is 20MB and contains 3104 unique user-submitted files, an increase from previous releases. The Open Clip Art Library is also browsable at www.openclipart.org where one might find specific clip art by searching through categories such as animals, education, transportation, or geography. Thank you to everyone who sent encouraging e-mails while the Open Clip Art Library's hosting project, freedesktop.org, underwent necessary maintenance due to a server break-in. freedesktop.org now has a much stronger server management system in place and our services are now completely back on-line from the incident. This intermittent downtime caused our developers to consider mirroring strategies. If you have any server space available and would like to host a mirror, please e-mail our mailing list. In the end, these events bolster an open source project and make it much stronger. To start the new year right, we decided to restart our montly release cycle, and begin to focus our attention to the project roadmap (http://openclipart.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Roadmap). For the upcoming 0.10 release, we encourage submission of Valentine's Day themed artwork, to help users with their love life. Behind the scenes, we will be integrating Bryce Harrington's Document Management System (DMS) to mediate the submissions we receive. DMS is a real breakthrough in document management, which is akin to source code management (CVS, SVN, etc), but for everyday practical group projects, versioning, and collaboration using various file formats. Our core developers have also been discussing a few different sub-projects such as adding support to our services for Font submissions (http://openclipart.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Open_Font_Library) and also a way to auto-generate greeting cards (http://openclipart.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Greeting_Cards). Please add your comments to the aforementioned wiki pages and help us realize these ideas in the coming year! If you are interested in this project, please join our mailing list (http://freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/clipart), check out the roadmap (http://openclipart.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Roadmap), and continue to submit your clip art! As the new year starts we are hoping to attract new developers and artists to work on the project. Happy New Year! Visit the Library at http://www.openclipart.org/

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Inkscape 0.41 release plans
by Ben Crowell 03 Jan '05

03 Jan '05

>Also Ben Crowell's Perl >scripts and XSLT scripting are very nice features that should be more >accessible, if possible, via the Scripts dialog or otherwise. Incorporating some of the Perl scripts would be fun, and I'd like to do it. However, IIRC there is still only a sketch of an API? Give me an API, and I'll get to work. Basically I need: - a way to get an svg file as input, and send it back as output - a way to report errors (including errors due to not having the right CPAN modules installed) - a way to get input strings from the user - a way to display some documentation to the user about what this script does - provisions for internationalizing all the strings the user will see Also, some of my scripts have known unixisms, which I can clean up, but I will still need help with testing on Windows, since I don't have a Windows box.

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CVS not compilable
by bulia byak 03 Jan '05

03 Jan '05

1. In src/io/Makefile_insert, several files are listed with InitialCaps but they are actually all-lowercase, so make fails. 2 After fixing 1, I get: io/xsltstream.cpp: In member function `virtual void Inkscape::IO::XsltOutputStream::flush()': io/xsltstream.cpp:183: error: `xmlErrorPtr' undeclared (first use this function) io/xsltstream.cpp:183: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in.) io/xsltstream.cpp:183: error: syntax error before `=' token io/xsltstream.cpp:184: error: `err' undeclared (first use this function) Please fix these ASAP, and please be careful to not leave CVS in uncompilable state, especially on holidays when it may be hard to reach people.

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Re: Inkscape interface
by Jon Phillips 02 Jan '05

02 Jan '05

Joshua wrote: > Good day, Jon, Alan and Peter. > > > > Attached to this e-mail is just a simple little mock up of an idea for an alternate Inkscape interface. > > > > Since most users like the current interface, there would, of course, be no need to change it. But when I read that, amazingly, future versions of Inkscape will incorporate SVG animation, (!) I thought the interface might need a little adjustment to incorporate future features (like the animation feature, filters, anything else that could be used to display the power of SVG). > > > > I could be way off with this, but it's just an idea. > > > > Thanks for the great work. > > Great, I've forwarded ths onto the Inkscape mailing list. I think the draggable toolbars that can be repositioned is a good idea. We do need to come up with a scheme for re-attachable menus, and your mockup is a step in the right direction. Please attach your email and screenshot to the RFE related to this: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=862662&group_id=93… Jon Phillips 1528 Alice St. Apt. #4 Oakland, CA, USA 94612-5004 USA PH 510.499.0894 jon@...235... http://www.rejon.org Inkscape (http://inkscape.org) Open Clip Art Library (www.openclipart.org) CVS Book (http://cvsbook.ucsd.edu) Scale Journal (http://scale.ucsd.edu)

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Re: non-uniform text scaling
by vellum 02 Jan '05

02 Jan '05

Peter wrote: > For the moment I've backed out my change, as I consider this a worse > bug. I hope to fix things later. > Fair enough. I got the impression earlier from Bulia that the non-uniform scaling area was a little messy to work in. Anyway my original needs have been addressed for which I'm really happy, and I raised that bug for the record. Will you reinstate the bug? Since it will still be there until the code is fixed properly. When you do decide to fix it let me know and I'll be happy to test and compare with other programs. vellum

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the big removal of 0.8s and 1.25s
by bulia byak 02 Jan '05

02 Jan '05

As discussed recently, I have changed the zoom levels so that at 100%, one px unit is equal to one screen pixel. This change led to switching all internal calculations from a mix of px and pt to pure px. This simplified code in many places and got rid of lots of ugly 0.8 and 1.25 multipliers that were scattered throughout the codebase. Correspondingly, the default template now uses the px units. I think that makes sense, given that most people use Inkscape for screen graphics. Now zoom to 100% (the `1' key) and you'll see your graphic exactly as it will look when exported with default resolution (now 90dpi, not 72dpi as before). This is a pretty big change. I tested everything I touched, but I may have missed something. Please test thoroughly. All old files with saved zoom will now load at 1.25*zoom, but that's inevitable; if you see any other problems, please report here.

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CFV: Update Inkscape FAQ
by Bryce Harrington 02 Jan '05

02 Jan '05

Here's another Call for Volunteers... The Inkscape FAQ is pretty good, but it's been a long time since someone did a thorough review of it and brought it up to date. We need someone who is reasonably knowledgeable about Inkscape to go through it and bring it a little more up to date. I think it probably also ought to have a table of contents with links to the Q's... 1. Save this webpage to your disk: http://inkscape.org/faq.php 2. Open it in a text editor 3. Review/revise each question 4. Add new questions you think are worth putting in 5. Remove any questions that are obsolete 6. Post your results here for a web guy to put on the site If you already have access for updating the Inkscape site, feel free to commit and update directly. Bryce

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