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Removing dead Inkboard code
by Krzysztof Kosiński 24 Jun '11

24 Jun '11

Hello As part of the general theme for the current development cycle, which appears to be "in-tree forks & cruft must die", I have completely removed Inkboard. Here are the reasons. 1. This code is seriously bitrotted and was disabled for a long time, with no one stepping up to put it back into shape. 2. It is behind times. A modern implementation would use something like Telepathy instead of a homegrown XMPP library. 3. Even if it worked, there is a very good chance it would have several remote execution vulnerabilities. 4. I'm not even sure Inkscape is the proper place for such functionality. It's cool, but it looks very much like feature bloat to me. People can do this much better using Google Docs drawings, which can be exported as SVG. 5. The fact that there were no loud complaints about the disappearance of Inkboard around version 0.47 indicates that few people were using it. Regards, Krzysztof

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Now the cairo branch is merged...
by Joel Holdsworth 24 Jun '11

24 Jun '11

On 23 June 2011 at 10:06 Jasper van de Gronde <th.v.d.gronde@...528...> wrote: > On 23-06-11 10:43, Joel Holdsworth wrote: > > ...would a release be in order? I remember we were longing for Cairo > > back in 2006! > > I wouldn't recommend it. People have of course had some time already to > test the branch, but I doubt many people did. Now that it is in trunk > anyone working on Inkscape will be using it and it's not exactly > unrealistic to assume that at least one or two issues will come up. > > > This branch merge is a very big deal! > > Yes it is! And I'm very, very glad that it has finally happened, but > doing a quick release after just having merged it might not be the best > thing to do. I do agree that we probably don't want to wait too long, > but I'd at least give it a month or two. I completely agree with you. If we move in that direction, then we'll be ready quite soon. I wouldn't necessarily advocate having a new about screen and trying to create a huge media circus around such a release, I'm just keen to get this into the hands of distros sooner rather than later. Joel

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Cairo branch ready
by Krzysztof Kosiński 23 Jun '11

23 Jun '11

Hello The Cairo rendering branch should be ready for merging. I fixed the rendering of controls, which was apparently the last blocker, and merged from trunk to fix conflicts. Do we wait for Cairo 1.12 or put the experimental 1.11.2 in devlibs? Regards, Krzysztof

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Read XY cordinate from .SVG files
by Mahendra Gajera 23 Jun '11

23 Jun '11

Hi All Here i upload save file of two separate line. Now I want read the position each line via programmatically, which are as BOLD in following .svg file. Please suggest the way get the position.Is other any document or example for that ,Please suggest me. <g inkscape:label="Layer 1" inkscape:groupmode="layer" id="layer1"> <path style="fill:none;stroke:#000000;stroke-width:0.40383452px;stroke-linecap:butt;stroke-linejoin:miter;stroke-opacity:1" d="m 157.14285,315.21933 397.14286,-0.46595" id="path12" inkscape:connector-curvature="0" /> <path style="fill:none;stroke:#000000;stroke-width:0.88473207px;stroke-linecap:butt;stroke-linejoin:miter;stroke-opacity:1" d="m 162.85714,327.26862 385.71428,2.23643" id="path14" inkscape:connector-curvature="0" /> </g> Thanks

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Re ad XY cordinate from .SVG files
by mahendra1 23 Jun '11

23 Jun '11

Hi All Here i upload save file of two separate line. Now I want read the position each line via programmatically, which are as BOLD in following .svg file. Please suggest the way get the position.Is other any document or example for that ,Please suggest me. <g inkscape:label="Layer 1" inkscape:groupmode="layer" id="layer1"> <path style="fill:none;stroke:#000000;stroke-width:0.40383452px;stroke-linecap:butt;stroke-linejoin:miter;stroke-opacity:1" d="m 157.14285,315.21933 397.14286,-0.46595" id="path12" inkscape:connector-curvature="0" /> <path style="fill:none;stroke:#000000;stroke-width:0.88473207px;stroke-linecap:butt;stroke-linejoin:miter;stroke-opacity:1" d="m 162.85714,327.26862 385.71428,2.23643" id="path14" inkscape:connector-curvature="0" /> </g> Thanks -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Read-XY-cordinate-from-.SVG-files-tp31909411p31909411… Sent from the Inkscape - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Modevia Win32 builds
by Josh Andler 22 Jun '11

22 Jun '11

It looks like there haven't been any new builds since the cairo merge, who is the point of contact for getting that all working again? Cheers, Josh

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versioning scheme, take 2
by Josh Andler 22 Jun '11

22 Jun '11

Hey all, Almost two years later and there has been no consensus. It is being brought up again due to a brief discussion with JonCruz via IRC. So, does anyone want to change from the leading 0 scheme at this point? Jon mentioned potential of 4.9 as opposed to 0.49, or the year/month method as Ubuntu uses for example, if 0.49 is released in Aug/Sept it would be 11.08/11.09. Bryce had also suggested a year/current system hybrid a couple years ago when last discussed, such as 2011.0.49 (which I guess I'd rather see something like that go more like 11.49). So... thoughts on if we should do this? My vote? Yes... we need to have a solid leading number because that matters (psychologically) to a number of users. Besides, with Google & Mozilla incrementing version numbers in their software so quickly, it makes me feel less like we need to hold to a very developer oriented version numbering scheme. (come on, Thunderbird even flat out gets to skip a major digit, so that lessens the blow if we did do decimal bump for a 4.9 or whatever else imho) Cheers, Josh

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] [Inkscape-user] force relative coordinates
by Jasper van de Gronde 21 Jun '11

21 Jun '11

In response to the original question (forcing Inkscape to use relative coordinates): if anyone wants to change Inkscape's behaviour, the relevant code is in src/svg/path-string.cpp, if you need help changing it, just mail me. (Otherwise, I *may* get around to adding an option myself, but it could take quite a while.) On 21-06-11 13:13, A. da Mek wrote: >>> What would be the best way of forcing the path to (always) relative >>> coordinates? > >> The current behaviour is that Inkscape minimizes the length >> of the path data. > > How can the choice of absolute or relative coordinates affect the length of > the path data? Suppose you have a line from 10,10 to 12,13 then "M 10,10 L 12,13" is longer than "m 10,10 l 2,3". When you have very complex paths this can matter quite a bit. In addition Inkscape leaves out the commands whenever it can, to save even more. It could save still more by doing things like removing white space where possible and such, but that makes the path data really a lot less "readable" and offers relatively little in terms of size reduction. > It is so that the absolute coordinates are used when the node is nearer to > the origin than to the previous node? It is actually a bit more complicated. It uses a technique called dynamic programming to decide on a GLOBALLY optimal strategy. So it can pick the longer alternative locally if that means the complete string will get smaller. > Then maybe translate the layer at least of one page width to left and page > height to top, and all coordinates should be relative. > But when I tried to test this idea, I found that the coordinates are allways > relative if the > preference"allow relative coordinates" is checked. > I thought that this behavior maybe changed in a newer version, so I upgraded > from 0.47 to 0.48.1, but still all coordinates are allways relative. I'm not entirely sure what you mean. If you think you have found a case where Inkscape makes the "wrong" decision (that is, it outputs a longer string than necessary), that would be a bug and I'd love to hear about it. If you're seeing it mostly choose relative coordinates, that is because it favors relative coordinates when all things are equal (this tends to avoid switching between the two, as relative coordinates are hardly ever worse than absolute coordinates). > (BTW, the the length of the path data would be better minimized were the > coordinates smartly rounded instead of such values as -113.000006 > or -12.99999) If you see things like that there can be a number of things going on. One problem is that Inkscape (currently) has to write out values in the decimal number system while internally it uses binary numbers (of course). This leads to a whole host of problems, not the least of which is cases like the ones you give (although generally integers aren't a big problem, so that's a bit weird). Then there is the problem that as you move things around (or even place things) Inkscape works with limited precision and errors might accumulate. When the error gets large enough you can get numbers like the ones you give. Inkscape does round the numbers it writes out though, and you can control that through the preferences. Making numbers "snap" to integers when they deviate from an integer by more than the allowed tolerance is problematic at best. Now, unfortunately you do not give the full path in which you see these numbers appearing, but if these are from relative coordinates then there is a good chance that it is a bug. Suppose that you have set Inkscape to use only 4 digits, and you have a line from 1200.2,0 to 1210.4,0. Using absolute coordinates this would be "M 1200,0 L 1210,0". Using relative coordinates this SHOULD become "m 1200,0 l 10,0", and NOT "m 1200,0 l 10.4,0", and Inkscape does have code to deal with this. So if it does not act like this, then you have found a bug and I'd love to know about it. Especially the -113.000006 has me worried a bit, is it from an actual path? If so, can you please send me the full path data? There is a chance that it is legitimate (again, Inkscape can make a locally suboptimal choice if that ultimately leads to a smaller string), but it does not happen that often, so I'd like to see what happened here.

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New video: Improvements to the new Measurement Tool in Inkscape
by Felipe Sanches 21 Jun '11

21 Jun '11

A new screencast showing the improvements to the Measurement Tool implemented this week: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjfVyGbHsdc Happy hacking, Felipe Sanches On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Felipe Sanches <juca@...2270...>wrote: > Hello, > I'd like to let you all know that I have been working on a new tool for > measuring objects in Inkscape. Here is a screencast of the tool: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZKnxTO11xE > > But if you checkout the development code from Bazaar , then you'll see some > new things that were implemented in the tool after recording the screencast > (i.e. the tool now displays angle info also). > > Happy Hacking, > Felipe Sanches > > PS: If you find bugs prease report them and assign the bugs to me at > Lauchpad bug tracker. >

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CSS in SVG tests
by Tavmjong Bah 20 Jun '11

20 Jun '11

Hi, I've been slowly adapting some of the CSS 2.1 test suite to SVG. You can find the tests at: http://tavmjong.free.fr/SVG/SVG_CSS_TESTS/2.1/HTML/index.html The tests have been given the same names as the CSS tests they were inspired from. The tests are not guaranteed to be correct. Each page displays the SVG file next to PNG rendered by Inkscape. Tav

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