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Re: [Inkscape-devel] undo history
by Josh Andler 12 Jun '09

12 Jun '09

For the record, the Undo History has been around since 0.45. If you're inclined to improve it, wait until afte SoC. Otherwise know, it's been around for a couple versions w/o any major issues. Cheers, Josh On Jun 12, 2009 12:19 PM, "Felipe Sanches" <felipe.sanches@...400...> wrote: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Felipe Sanches < felipe.sanches@...400...> Date: Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Inkscape 0.47pre0 To: Inkscape User ... yeah, but you could accidentaly hit a key and unintentionally destroy work. There is no "undo my mistaken undo-history-edit"... On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Steven M. Ottens <steven@...2202...> wrote: > although I would love some smart multi-level tree-undo structure > which remembers at what point in history you deviated and allows you > to go back to the branch point and gives you the choice to either > follow the 'new' history or the 'old' history *), I've never seen > that in practice and everyone who uses multiple undo for a while > knows that if you go back in history and change something, you're > 'past future' is lost. > > So merely giving a warning that changing something once you went back > in history will be beneficial for a small number of people, but > hugely annoying for the majority. In my opinion you should either > produce a nice multi-branch undo history (with very interesting UI- > challenges) or leave it as it is. I am aware it is a bit harsh, but > IMHO no-one who is doing serious design work with inkscape will be > surprised by this behavior, because there is no multi-branch-undo in > any (vector)drawing program. > > Correct me if I'm wrong. > > Steven > > *) If inkscape would have it, it would be a killer feature, I'd love > to help to do the UI-part of it, the programming part has to be done > by different minds though > > > > On Jun 12, 2009, at 8:28 PM, Felipe Sanches wrote: > > > hmmm... cool! > > > but I see an issue t... > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > -------- > > Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial > > > Check out the new simplifi... > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects _______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel

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undo history
by Felipe Sanches 12 Jun '09

12 Jun '09

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Felipe Sanches <felipe.sanches@...400...> Date: Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Inkscape 0.47pre0 To: Inkscape User Community <inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net> hmmm... cool! but I see an issue there... if you select a "past revision" and edit it, every future revision (relative to it) is lost. It should either branch the history or warn the user that some work will be definetly lost. Juca On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 3:03 PM, john cliff <john.cliff@...400...> wrote: > do you mean the undo history? its in SVN under edit>undo history... > > 2009/6/12 Felipe Sanches <felipe.sanches@...400...>: > > > >> > >> Some time back, someone from some university developed an undo system > >> for Inkscape. Would that be included in the final release? > > > > Probably not. I havent seen it in our svn repository, so it wont be in > our > > release. > > And it can't be added now in the middle of a release process. > > > > Juca > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial > > Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited > > royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing > > server and web deployment. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects > > _______________________________________________ > > Inkscape-user mailing list > > Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial > Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited > royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing > server and web deployment. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-user mailing list > Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user >

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NEW: font family list usability
by bulia byak 12 Jun '09

12 Jun '09

The usability of the font family drop-down list in the Text tool controls bar has been improved: it no longer steals focus, all keyboard shortcuts work as designed (Alt+X to access the family control, Alt+down to open the drop-down list, arrows to move in the list, Enter to set chosen font) and the completion feature works (start typing a family name and a pop-up list with possible completions appears). Remaining problems that may be fixed in the future versions: * The first opening of the drop-down list of family names may be slow if you have many fonts installed (the delay is Inkscape generating the previews for all fonts). * By default on Linux, the drop-down is shown as a menu (gray background, wide panel without horizontal scrolling) instead of a list (white background, narrow panel with horizontal scrolling). The menu style is inconvenient because of its excessive width. To fix this, find your ~/.gtkrc-2.0 file and inside the style that applies to all widgets, add GtkComboBox::appears-as-list = 1. For example: style "user-font" { font_name="DejaVu Sans 10" GtkComboBox::appears-as-list = 1 } widget_class "*" style "user-font" Windows version uses the list style by default. I should add that, after several days of tweaking this, starting from a patch by Felipe, I hate GTK more than ever. Its inconsistent behavior across platforms, poor configurability (can anyone please suggest how the list style can be set programmatically, not via an rc file? this style property is read-only in GTK!) and ambiguous documentation are really a shame. In the end I fixed everything except the above listed issues, using a few weird tricks but nothing really insane (standard GTK widgets only), and I think it should be good enough to release in 0.47. If and when someone comes up with a more advanced solution, it must be at least as good usability-wise as this one. I tested it on Linux with GTK 2.15.4 and on Windows XP. Please report any problems to me, listing your platform and GTK version. -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] NEW: font family list usability
by Preben Soeberg 11 Jun '09

11 Jun '09

> > 5 with the list open, Alt+tab to another application > > Is this a normal thing to do? To me this sounds like intentionally > trying to break it. Seeing error messages (bad fonts) appear on the console window, just Alt+Tab'ing to the console window to see messages, not to break system ;-)

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] NEW: font family list usability
by bulia byak 10 Jun '09

10 Jun '09

On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Tor Lillqvist<tml@...2201...> wrote: > > 1 add GtkComboBox::appears-as-list = 1 >> to your active style in active gtkrc file > > The MS-Windows theme's gtkrc file already contains this, so presumably > it is enough to use the MS-Windows theme? Probably, I don't know, I gave it to you just in case because Inkscape uses it. >> 4 click button to open list under "Editable" >> 5 with the list open, Alt+tab to another application > > Is this a normal thing to do? To me this sounds like intentionally > trying to break it. So? It must not break no matter how one tries to break it :) Also, it breaks only with appears-as-list = 1. When it is menu, it works fine (just closes the drop-down as soon as loses focus). >> 6 BUG: list floats above everything > > Isn't that what the list is supposed to do? I am sure the list > "floats" above everything on X11, too. The bug is that it doesn't pop > down when the process loses focus. Yes, it must close it. > Anyway, big deal. As the saying > goes, "don't do that then". Sorry, no. Small things like this add to an overall impression of sloppiness, awkwardness, and bad usability. This has to be fixed. >> 7 BUG: if you now Alt+tab back to Combo boxes and there close the >> list, the Combo boxes window stays on top of everything > > Yes, this clearly is caused by some bug in window handling. > > Please file a bug report. Where exactly? Last time I tried to do this but got lost in the multi-layer Gnome site. -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] NEW: font family list usability
by bulia byak 10 Jun '09

10 Jun '09

On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Tor Lillqvist<tml@...2201...> wrote: >> Tor: This is a trouble with a GtkComboBoxEntry on Windows XP. > > Without a minimal test case that replicates it there isn't much I can do. Easy: 1 add GtkComboBox::appears-as-list = 1 to your active style in active gtkrc file 2 run gtk-demo.exe 3 choose "Combo boxes" 4 click button to open list under "Editable" 5 with the list open, Alt+tab to another application 6 BUG: list floats above everything 7 BUG: if you now Alt+tab back to Combo boxes and there close the list, the Combo boxes window stays on top of everything -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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clipboard
by Alexandre Prokoudine 10 Jun '09

10 Jun '09

Hi, According to ChangeLog last July there was support for Windows clipboard introduced. However on Linux copy/paste of paths still doesn't work between instances and Inkscape doesn't seem to announce it sent something to clipboard for other apps as well. GIMP does support pasting SVG paths from clipboard, but ironically the only application that is supposed to do that in fact doesn't do it. Amusing, eh? :) So, what can we do? Alexandre

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FW: [Inkscape-user] Remove all guides
by unknown＠example.com 10 Jun '09

10 Jun '09

Hi all, Shouldn't we add this "remove all guides" extension to Inkscape? Cheers, Johan > -----Original Message----- > From: heathenx [mailto:heathenx@...400...] > Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 21:22 > To: Inkscape User Community > Cc: Lars Behrens > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Remove all guides > > Lars Behrens wrote the following on 6/9/2009 8:05 AM: > > Am Dienstag, 9. Juni 2009 schrieb heathenx: > > > >> Lars, > >> > >> I have now have a working extension that will delete all > guides at once. > >> Richard Querin and I spent a few minutes on it last night > and worked > >> out some bugs. It appears to work great in Linux (Ubuntu > 9.04) and WinXP. > > > > Great! > > > >> Please sit tight. Hopefully I can get it to you today. > > > > No need to hurry, but thanks very much, so far! > > > > Lars > > All done! Thanks Hannes Hochreiner and Richard Querin for > helping me. I hope it works well for you, Lars. I found it > rather useful. :) > > Download: http://bit.ly/remove_guides > > heathenx > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------- > Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out > the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited > royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally > facing server and web deployment. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-user mailing list > Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user >

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Wiki site has an error
by microUgly 09 Jun '09

09 Jun '09

The Inkscape Wiki site is experiencing an error: --- Warning: session_save_path() [function.session-save-path]: open_basedir restriction in effect. File(/var/www/web_extra/sessions) is not within the allowed path(s): (.:/tmp:/usr/share/php:/var/www/drupal:/var/www/www.inkscape.org/htdocs) in /var/www/www.inkscape.org/htdocs/wiki/LocalSettings.php on line 6 (Can't contact the database server: Unknown database 'inkscape-wiki' (db3.osuosl.org)) --- Apparently it has been like this for a few days. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Wiki-site-has-an-error-tp23951708p23951708.html Sent from the Inkscape - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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LGM 2010 - Vote on proposal
by Louis Desjardins 09 Jun '09

09 Jun '09

Hi, Several location were mentioned for LGM 2010, but only one has lead to a formal proposition. After the few mails we have read on this list, we now propose that we have a vote if we accept it or not. LGM would take place in Brussels, May 6-9 2010, hosted by the local non-profit organisation Constant, represented by Femke Snelting. The details of this proposal and the discussions around it have all been posted on the Create Mailing List. So, before announcing this officially, we need a clear support from the LGM participating teams. You are the heart of LGM! :) Your dedicated LGM organisers would like to move forward asap with an enthusiastic support on the decision. Please speak up now! :) Cheers! Louis -- Louis Desjardins Organisateur principal / Main organiser Libre Graphics Meeting 2009 - Montréal 6-9 mai 2009 www.libregraphicsmeeting.org/2009 +1 514 994 9351 (cell phone) +1 514 934 1353 (office phone) HAE / EDT GMT -5

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