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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Tango icons as default set
by Guillermo Espertino 28 Jan '09

28 Jan '09

I've made some changes and tweaks according to the suggestions that several people made. Here is a screenshot with the latest changes (on the right side): http://www.ohweb.com.ar/screenshots/Inkscape/Tango-Icons-Colors.png I'm not sure about the dark strokes. They have a lighter outline for dark themes, but that makes them look blurred. Removing the outlines and keeping the dark color will make them useless for dark themes, so there's no way out: It's white with a grey outline like the original Tango set, or the middle gray with dark strokes (a.k.a. Bulia's spaghettis :-) What do you think? Gez.

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Inkscape input char encoding
by Aurélio A. Heckert 27 Jan '09

27 Jan '09

Hi all, I comited the Calendar Generator to Inkscape SVN with only my personal tests in a home compiled UTF-8 Linux system. Alvin test it in a ISO-8859-15 Windos system and add a patch using unicode() function to accept Latin encoding. https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/320496 That was a problem for me, then i understand and add a encoding selector for all encodings of this page: http://docs.python.org/library/codecs.html#standard-encodings Now it works, but the user must selects the system encoding. That is not Friendly... I want to do this encoding selection automatically. But how? The inkscape can define the input char encoding? If yes, Why not ever send the input as UTF-8? Thanks, Aurium -- Aurélio A. Heckert http://colivre.coop.br/Aurium GNU/Linux User #312507 http://counter.li.org - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Ilustração Vetorial Livre: http://InkscapeBrasil.org Coop. de Tecnologias Livres: http://Colivre.coop.br - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - "Eu temo pela minha espécie quando penso que Deus é justo." Thomas Jefferson Antes de imprimir esta mensagem reflita sobre a sua responsabilidade com a preservação do Meio Ambiente.

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andy-spiro test rendering changed completely?
by Jasper van de Gronde 27 Jan '09

27 Jan '09

For some reason the livepatheffect/andy-spiro test is now rendered quite different from how it used to be rendered (it changed between the 22nd and the 25th). I didn't create the test and am quite unfamiliar with the LPEs, so I have no idea how to judge which is right and which is wrong. Perhaps anyone can shed some light on this? Of course any ideas on what caused the change (regression?) would also be welcome. For reference, the two images (the original output/reference and the new output, respectively): http://home.hccnet.nl/th.v.d.gronde/andy-spiro1.png http://home.hccnet.nl/th.v.d.gronde/andy-spiro2.png

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Tango icons as default set
by Guillermo Espertino 27 Jan '09

27 Jan '09

A comparison between dark GTK themes with both sets. http://www.ohweb.com.ar/screenshots/Inkscape/Tango-Icons-Colors-dark.png Notice that I didn't choose a black theme (they exist) but a dark gray one. The black details in the oficial set are still visible but the contrast lowered a lot, so they are difficult to see. In a pure black theme they will be completely invisible. The Tango text tool also needs some tweaking for dark themes. About the colors: I'd prefer a single shade for the shapes tools, Shades of blues, for instance, with low saturation. But it seems the majority prefers the different colors. I agree with Bulia about lowering the saturation of them a bit. Finally we're getting closer to an agreement :-) Gez.

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access beyond end of merged section
by Felipe Sanches 27 Jan '09

27 Jan '09

what does that mean? /usr/bin/ld: filter-effects-dialog.o: access beyond end of merged section (34359815658)

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Tango icons as default set
by Guillermo Espertino 27 Jan '09

27 Jan '09

I made some changes in the Tango set to match some aspects of the current oficial set. http://www.ohweb.com.ar/screenshots/Inkscape/tango-icons-colors.svg.tar.gz -Created a new icon for the 3D box. No more box with trapezoid :-) -Added colors to the geometric primitives -Unified and tweaked the drawing icons (now all point upwards) -Created a new icon for the gradient tool -Created a new icon for the flood fill tool Maybe some of them need some tweaking. It's my first time creating tango icons, but I think they are acceptable. I don't like the color icons, but I'm trying to reach a compromise and see if people who prefered the oficial set find this set acceptable. I'll try to tweak the bucket icon a little, maybe to make more evident the part of the dripping paint (separating more the paint blob of the bucket). I didn't change the tweak icon, please let me know if you think it should be changed. I find the hand icon more appropriate, since that tool allows some sort of manual tweaking, some humanization. It's a very complete tool and it would be very hard to find only one icon for all its features and I think -let me know if you don't agree- the "finger" icon covers pretty well the idea of the tool. Besides, that tool is a transformation tool, not a drawing tool, and the current icon is so abstract that may be interpreted as a shape tool. Another icon I didn't touch was the connector tool. Do you think it needs color too? Here is a side by side comparison of both toolbars: http://www.ohweb.com.ar/screenshots/Inkscape/Tango-Icons-Colors.png I'd like to hear your feedback. Do you think it's more acceptable with these changes? What other changes should be considered to accept this set as the default? Gez.

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Which python
by Bob Jamison 27 Jan '09

27 Jan '09

Hi, all. I found a small problem in build.xml that broke the build. In the "cxxtest" target, the path of the python executable was set to /target/python/python.exe . The problem with that is that the python you want at build time is the one that is native on your build machine. So on Linux, it would be /usr/bin/python or whatever. For win32/Mingw native builds, it would be preferable to add ${devlibs}/python to the PATH in mingwenv.bat rather than to explicitly invoke the one in /target/. Just "python" should be correct. Can someome please commit this? I don't want to commit the cross-compile version and break native/mingw. bob

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Tango icons as default set
by Guillermo Espertino 27 Jan '09

27 Jan '09

Bulia Byak wrote: > But the old set copes much better with color thanks to its strong, > graphic black outline. It's the outline that holds them together > graphically, color is just a decoration. With the anemic outline-less > Tango ones, color indeed mostly fails. There's nothing to hang that > color on, basically :) ... thanks to it's strong, graphic outline that isn't even present in every icon. Some have single black oultine, others have a second inset line (tweak took), others have no outline (gradient tool), others have multiple outlines (zoom tool). The black outline ends up disappearing in black/dark themes, so it's not usable without a light outline for strokes (bezier and freehand drawing tools). The oficial icon lacks consistency. It looks unfinished because too much icons look too different in style than the rest. If somebody takes the current oficial set and makes it more normalized, I bet that people who want Tangos won't be so against the current set. I'm not a Tango zealot. I find it better than the current set and I have my arguments to think that it would be better to put them as default. But i'm not against improving the current one, at all. Gez

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Trouble in debug inkscape on MacOSX
by Beni **** 27 Jan '09

27 Jan '09

Hi everyone, I am student and I am looking for a way to debug inkscape, I have followed the instructions of the Debugging Tips for OS X and the CompilingMacOsX. The compilation works, I execute this line "Inkscape.app/Contents/MacOS/inkscape" every things is right but when I try to put a breakpoint in a source file like in main.cpp, gdb display that: No source file named main.cpp. Make breakpoint pending on future shared library load? (y or [n]) I have try to change the source directory, with the command directory [path] but nothing change. I don't know what can I do to solve my problem. I am working on MacOS 10.5. Thank you for your help. Cya _________________________________________________________________ Téléphonez gratuitement à tous vos proches avec Windows Live Messenger ! Téléchargez-le maintenant ! http://www.windowslive.fr/messenger/1.asp

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Tango icons as default set
by Guillermo Espertino 27 Jan '09

27 Jan '09

Aaron Spike wrote: > Could you please include the Tango toolbar before your modifications in > the picture for comparison? Yes, I uploaded a new version with some corrections and the comparison of the three sets. http://www.ohweb.com.ar/screenshots/Inkscape/Tango-Icons-Colors.png The icons file: http://www.ohweb.com.ar/screenshots/Inkscape/tango-icons-colors.svg.tar.gz Bulia Byak wrote: > That is better. Though I think now there's too much color in the shape > tools. Especially the 3D box is too dark and saturated. I lowered the saturation of the 3D box and made it lighter, it blends better to the rest of the tools now. > Do we really need to have white lines in Pen/Pencil, Calligraphic, and > Spiral? Is it against some guidelines to draw crisp, visible black > lines, which would also match the default style of these tools? (they > draw black lines, not white!) I also made the lines dark. The problem with this (or just black) is how the theme works in dark GTK themes. The black or dark lines disappear. Although I changed those lines and made them dark, the white line with outline strokes work better both in light and dark gtk themes. I'd change them back to white. > With this comparison, I cannot help noticing that it is definitely the > Tango icons that look more childish, naive, clumsy - not our current > set. Both look childish. That's because of the colors. Now both look like a plastic children toy :) I have to admit that that's an opinion based on the current trends, not in an usability test. Of course different colors are easier to identify, but now the trend for design applications is to use desaturated interfases and icons. A multi-color icon theme looks cheap. Not because it is cheap, but it's something similar than when you watch an original Star Trek episode: all that lights and sounds looked high tech back on its days, but now they look old. (this metaphore is appliable to Knight Rider episodes too :-) But, apart of the colors, the current set lacks sistematization. Some color guidelines, consistent usage of outlines, etc. > Sorry but this is > how I see it. I would accept the change if the majority votes for it, > but it will be a sad day for me when this happens. No offense taken. I respect your opinion and I'd prefer to achieve a tango set that is acceptable for you rather than making you sad. :-) Anyway, it would be great if someone creates an UI for easy selection of themes, and it would be also great if someone takes the current oficial set and fixes it to make it more consistent.

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