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Type size (was: Default units)
by Guillermo Espertino 27 Dec '07

27 Dec '07

> > After realizing that there was something strange about the text size in > my inkscape designs I followed the bugs associated (#168151, #168164, > #168344, #170099 - some of them seem to be duplicates) and there I > noticed that the text size in inkscape is expressed in pixels, but the > dialog doesn't inform that. I wrote that a couple of days ago, but I was wrong. Type isn't expressed in pixels. It took me a while to get it, but now I understand. The size is expressed in a unit that is 1/90th of an inch (corresponding to the default inkscape resolution of 90 dpi). That can be just right for svg and on-screen presentation, but for print those typographic size units are quite misleading. Regular users are used to typographic points, which are in DTP equal to 1/72th of an inch. The current units are only used in inkscape (ok, maybe they're the default units for svg but they have not much use for print). The problem of having these units is that an average user won't get what he/she expects. This is, imo, a critic usability issue. It's not intuitive, the result isn't what a regular user would expect and it forces the user to calculate the size (and forces to realize how, because there are no clue of what units are used in the UI). I think this issue should be marked as critic. Meanwhile, for everyone looking for typographic points in inkscape, there's a kind of workaround. Multiply the desired value by 1.25 and you'll get a equivalent size. (example: if you need 10pt type, then use 12.5 units) Regards, Gez.

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Tango icon theme take 3
by joel＠...1709... 27 Dec '07

27 Dec '07

Oh and one other comment, the tail on the select arrow somehow doesn't look quite central with respect to the arrow head. ---------------------------------------- From: Michael Grosberg <preacher_public@...19...> Sent: 27 December 2007 14:21 To: inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Inkscape-devel] Tango icon theme take 3 I've taken most of the criticism to heart: A lot of icons are now more distinct - Tango uses a medium gray for many icons, but I changed it to a darker shade. This may hurt people who use dark themes so I'm not really sure it's a good idea. I also changed the flip/rotate icons back to something similar to the existing ones. Following Bulia's remarks about the tool icons, I decided to try and create my own icons instead of using the existing set from Art Libre: please tell me your opinion: are their functions clearer now? Lastly, take a look at the show/hide icons in the layers menu. download link: http://grosberg.michael.googlepages.com/icons.svg.zip Michael Grosberg P.S. happy holiday season everyone! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel

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shift-ctrl+L shortcut seems to be broken - Inkscape0712261744
by unknown＠example.com 27 Dec '07

27 Dec '07

Hi, in Inkscape0712261744 SHIFT+CTRL+L shortcut seems to be broken (layer window does not appear) Vista Home Premium Molumen

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Digits of precision
by Maximilian Albert 26 Dec '07

26 Dec '07

Hi all, I just rediscovered bugs #171486 and #171980, which both request higher precisions for grids/guides/document size, etc. I'm not a graphics designer, but the reasoning that people often need 1/16 (=0.0625) inch measurements makes sense to me. I gather that multiple degrees of precision are used throughout Inkscape. Grids allow 4 digits, guidelines 3, but document size (for example) only provides 2. I haven't checked all the other places but I'm wondering if it would make sense to unify all these. Isn't having different precisions simply inconsistent and annoying for users who need high precision for their work? Would this be a difficult/time consuming change or do people think it is something that can be achieved (or is desirable at all) for 0.46? In this case, what would be a good level of precision? Is there any reason not to provide 4 digits everywhere (apart from space considerations, maybe)? I hope this hasn't been discussed before or I'm touching on a sensitive issue. Just wondering. Max

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Which attributes to store in plain SVG?
by Maximilian Albert 26 Dec '07

26 Dec '07

Hi all, in the _write() methods for most SPObjects there are some lines of code similar to the following (this example is taken from sp-rect.cpp): if ((flags & SP_OBJECT_WRITE_BUILD) && !repr) { Inkscape::XML::Document *xml_doc = sp_document_repr_doc(SP_OBJECT_DOCUMENT(object)); repr = xml_doc->createElement("svg:rect"); } I have been wondering for quite some time in which situations these are called at all. Just now I discovered that this is the case when saving a file as plain SVG. Are there other circumstances, too? I'm asking because I'd like to know what kind of attributes should be set when building an object like this. For example, when I want to create a 3D box with this piece of code, should I set the "sodipodi:type" attribute or should I leave it out (so that effectively only an ordinary svg:g is created)? I'm inclined towards the latter because otherwise when the file is reopened there are also some other attributes missing (since it was saved as plain SVG) so the box is not shown at all because Inkscape is missing some information necessary to render it correctly. I just wanted to ask if my reasoning is correct or if I'm missing anything. Generally, it would be interesting to know what kinds of attributes should be saved to plain SVG. Apparently, various Inkscape-specific elements are saved (like LPEs), but they seem to be stripped off some attributes that might be necessary to fully recover them. I hope everyone is enjoying their Christmas vacations! Don't mind if it therefore takes you a bit longer to reply. ;-) Thanks and best regards, Max P.S.: BTW, why is repr == NULL if the above code is called when saving to plain SVG but not in other situations? Just wondering.

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Document resources?
by Maximilian Albert 26 Dec '07

26 Dec '07

Hi, another thing I just stumbled across: A couple of objects like filters, LPEs, gradients, etc. have something like this in their build methods: /* Register ourselves */ sp_document_add_resource(document, "gradient", object); ... and the corresponding code in the _release() method. What precisely does this do and what is it good for? What kinds of objects should "register themselves" and why? Thanks, Max

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PPC numpy, lxml
by Stuart Edwards 25 Dec '07

25 Dec '07

Jiho - I have numpy for py25 and py24 and lxml for py25. These are macport installs and are fairly bulky (~ 10 Mb). Let me know how you would like to have them delivered! Stu

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Problems trying to Compile Inkscape on tiger PPC
by Juan Miguel Ramirez 25 Dec '07

25 Dec '07

well, after a lot of troubles I have made all the steps until: make install the final lines of the log are: Making install in ui make[3]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'. test -z "/Users/yomizmo/Documents/inkscape//share/inkscape/ui" || ../.././install-sh -c -d "/Users/yomizmo/Documents/inkscape//share/inkscape/ui" /usr/bin/install -c -m 644 'keybindings.rc' '/Users/yomizmo/Documents/inkscape//share/inkscape/ui/keybindings.rc' /usr/bin/install -c -m 644 'menus-bars.xml' '/Users/yomizmo/Documents/inkscape//share/inkscape/ui/menus-bars.xml' /usr/bin/install -c -m 644 'toolbox.xml' '/Users/yomizmo/Documents/inkscape//share/inkscape/ui/toolbox.xml' /usr/bin/install -c -m 644 'units.txt' '/Users/yomizmo/Documents/inkscape//share/inkscape/ui/units.txt' /usr/bin/install -c -m 644 'units.xml' '/Users/yomizmo/Documents/inkscape//share/inkscape/ui/units.xml' make[3]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'. make[3]: Nothing to be done for `install-data-am'. Making install in po /bin/sh /Users/yomizmo/Documents/Inkscape SVN/inkscape/trunk/install-sh -d /Users/yomizmo/Documents/inkscape//share/locale /Users/yomizmo/Documents/Inkscape: /Users/yomizmo/Documents/Inkscape: is a directory make[1]: *** [install-data-yes] Error 126 make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 On 22/12/2007, jiho <jo.irisson@...400...> wrote: > > > > > > On 2007-December-22 , at 20:41 , Juan Miguel Ramirez wrote: > > > well, I have installed all the dependencies except subversion; it > > > gives me the following errors: > > > > > > you can drop subversion in MP and either: > > - get a source development snapshot (see wiki on compiling on OSX > > there's a link) > > - get subversion as an OS X installer > > http://homepage.mac.com/martinott/ > > http://subversion.tigris.org/project_packages.html > > > > Let me know how the rest of the compilation goes. > > > > JiHO > > --- > > http://jo.irisson.free.fr/ > > > > > > > >

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printing broken!
by bulia byak 25 Dec '07

25 Dec '07

The new print dialog looks impressive, but it does not work. I choose print to lpr and nothing happens (ubuntu 6.10). It worked fine before the last overhaul (about a month ago). Print preview button also does nothing, just closes the print dialog. Printing to file also fails to create any file. I think this must be addressed asap, since I'm not the only one complaining about this. -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] RSVG dependancies
by joel＠...1709... 24 Dec '07

24 Dec '07

Well that symbol I gave was just an example of the BZ2_bzCompress@...1849.... @ notation. But yes, I would like to compile it without bzip2 support, but I'm not quite sure how to do that on windows command line. Do I use the source code from the bzip2 website or off the MingW/MSYS website? Do I compile on the windows command line? or in some other more linux friendly shell? or even in linux itself? Or if I were to try and compile bzip2, I'd really want to know the same answers to those questions. ---------------------------------------- From: JonY <10walls@...400...> Sent: 24 December 2007 15:46 To: inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] RSVG dependancies joel@...1709... wrote: > Hi All, > > After bulia's earlier comment about the possibility of rendering SVG > previews with RSVG, I did some investigation. I think this *is* the way > to go. Already I've got cairo working very nicely feeding graphics into > my preview pane. librsvg looks pretty straight-forward as well. > > I'm having a slight problem adding the rsvg dependency. It seems that > the version of the lib in the bundle has been compiled with bzip2.dll as > a dependency. I can't possibly see why it would need to support that, > but if we were to add bzip2, that only adds another 60kB. Problem is, I > can't find a version of bzip2 which will play nice with librsvg.dll > because the exported symbols in the my MSYS version of the dll that I > have, are of the form "BZ2_bzCompress", but librsvg-2-2.dll imports > "BZ2_bzCompress@...1333...". > > Where do the DLLs in the bundle come from? > Could librsvg be compiled without bzip2 support? > or Is a version of bzip2.dll with the correct exports available somewhere? > and can I get that dll before the next bundle is released? because I > don't want to wait for months > > any suggestions? > > Thanks > Joel > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-devel mailing list > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel Hi, Wait, are you saying its an MSYS dll? MSYS uses a different runtime all together, its not supposed to be used for non-MSYS apps. I used the static lib instead (could have been dll-ized), links to the librsvg dll without problems, but I don't have BZ2_bzCompress@...1333... either. $ nm /mingw/lib/libbz2.a | grep BZ2_bzCompress 00000820 T _BZ2_bzCompress@...1847... 00000990 T _BZ2_bzCompressEnd@...1346... 00000170 T _BZ2_bzCompressInit@...1848... Have you tried compiling librsvg yourself without bzip2 support? bzip2 support maybe needed for rendering compressed svgz, but I'm not entirely sure. Hope everything goes well. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel

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