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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Inkscape-devel Digest, Vol 17, Issue 26
by Tony Vigil 13 Oct '07

13 Oct '07

From: staff-gmail <john.staff2222@...400...> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Inkscape House plan wish list As an engineer, I like Inkscape because it is NOT like CAD (I like the simplicity and free form nature), though I do enjoy some of the newer features that bring Visio and Sketchup type abilities. However, some of the things you are looking for are possible (see below) and you are welcome and encouraged to contribute patches for anything else you would like. Some things could be done with the python extension script capabilities. Donn wrote: > 1. Rotate entire page - the plan is designed square, but the house is seated > at an angle. Nice to be able to see the house angled, but continue to design > square. > Have you tried selecting all the objects, grouping and then rotating ? I think what he really wants is to have the entire coordinate system rotated... not just the graphics. > 3. It would be super if "symbols" (original groups that are used as clones) > could be kept in a separate .svg file and referred-to within other svg files. > That way, the symbols don't have to be *in* every file that uses those > clones. > then you start to have file dependency hell. I do keep a separate file for my favorite symbols/drawn objects which I copy into various drawings. I want them to be a pure copy so I can modify them any way I want in that particular drawing. File dependency is not an entirely bad thing. Being able to modify a graphical widget in one file and have instances of the widget updated in many files can be very useful. It would be a cool option to be able to save dependencies... but I wouldn't want it to be the default. > 4. Measurements: If there were at least a ruler tool that could be measured in > length (at any angle) rather than the width/height of it's bounding square, > it would really help in designing accurately when things don't remain square. > Better yet, a way to get the length of a section of an element - perhaps by > selecting nodes and having it show the lengths in a readout somewhere. > Or, when you draw a line it could show the length along with the other > usual info. > > yes, a ruler tool would be nice, in fact, the whole SVG unit transformation specifications could use some work - feel free to contribute some ideas on this. The Measure Path effect can already do measurement at any angle. What seems to be missing is some code that updates the measurement text when the measured path is modified. > 7.5 (I just remembered) It would be nifty if a kind of "spreadsheetyness" > could infiltrate Inkscape. For example, I often wanted to add a list of areas > (that I manually calculated and noted as text objects here and there) > together and display a total area in a text object on another layer. If that > could be automated by variables and formula... Just imagine! Sounds like a great Inkcape offshoot project... CADscape! I'd certainly give it a go when I needed to do some CAD work if somebody wanted to create it... but I would hate it if Inkscape became too much like other CAD tools. > 10. A way to export the selected item(s) out to an svg file. I find that > copy/paste between Inkscape instances on Kubuntu just plain does not work. So > I end up making "cut.svg" files with one item in it so I can import that to > the next file. Boring really. So being able to pull something out of a busy > file and send it to a file would speed that. > Cut and paste between files does work - you just have to open the 2nd file from within the first file Sending selected objects to a new file isn't all that difficult or complicated. Select your objects > CTRL/C > CTRL/N > CTRL/V. Presto... all selected objects are now exported to a new document.

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chain icon/caption
by Alexandre Prokoudine 13 Oct '07

13 Oct '07

Hi, Currently in Filter Effects dialog "Link" caption is used for cases when two values should be changed together. Should we probably switch to traditional chain icons already used in GIMP, Scribus and other well known applications? Alexandre

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] [Inkscape-user] Losing colours when copying
by Michael Wybrow 13 Oct '07

13 Oct '07

On 11/10/2007, at 10:22 AM, greg fenton wrote: > I am using some images from openclipart. > > I am trying to copy two different balloons (clipart/recreation/ > party/balloon-red-aj.svg and balloon-blue-aj.svg) into a single new > image. > > I first copy -red and paste into the new image and all is good. > When I copy -blue and paste into the new image, it is pasted also > as red (not blue). Nothing I seem to do will copy the image over > as blue. > > If I create a second new image and paste just the blue, it copies > over as blue. If I then copy red and paste, it pastes as blue. > > Any suggestions as to how I can get the copy to happen? Just a guess... I had an SVG file where some of the colour were defined using CSS as a top-level style tag. When they were opened in Inkscape they displayed fine, but those colour came out wrong when copied to a new file since I guess the CSS values were not copied across. I was able to paste it to the other file with correct colours by: 1) Open the file in Inkscape 2) Select the relevant objects and copy 3) Paste them within the same document 4) Copy the newly pasted selection 5) Paste that into the new document These steps don't work with you balloon example. Your problem looks similar but with gradients instead of CSS, probably because the gradients are named the same in different coloured balloon images, so the pasted blue balloon just references the red balloons gradients in the pasted version since they are named the same. I'm not sure if this should be considered a bug or not (multiple pasted balloons use the same gradients). CC'ing to the developers list to see what people think about this, and whether there is any kind of hidden option to get the behaviour you want. Cheers, Michael

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print and print direct
by bulia byak 12 Oct '07

12 Oct '07

Does anyone has a slightest idea, or even a suggestion, of why we have these two commands on Windows but not on Linux? What is the difference? This was recently discussed in this bug: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=604306&aid=979164&group_i… whose findings can be summarized as follows: - Linux has the single Print command, it offers a choice between PS/bitmap printing, and it works (at least the PS printing works, I didn't test bitmap printing much). - Windows has "Print" and "Print Direct". The former works but offers no PS/bitmap switch, and works only as a bitmap. The latter offers the switch but does not work :) I think it's high time to do something about this mess. -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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Error on "config" script?
by Aurélio A. Heckert 12 Oct '07

12 Oct '07

I have some compile problems, and Bulia say me that i need to upgrade mu libGTK. see: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1812357&group_id=9… So... the config script must test the libGTK version, don't need? Thanks guis! :-) Aurium -- -===================================================- . . Aurélio A. Heckert [ GNU/Linux ] / \ http://www.aurium.cjb.net ((__-^^-,-^^-__)) `-_---" "---_-´ Ilustração Vetorial Livre: `--|o` ´o|--´ http://InkscapeBrasil.org \ ' / Projeto Software Livre - Bahia: ): :( http://psl-ba.softwarelivre.org (o_o) Coop. de Tecnologias Livres: "-" http://www.colivre.coop.br ------------------------------------------------- GNU/Linux User #312507 http://counter.li.org - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ( ( ( http://www.midiaindependente.org ) ) ) -===================================================- "Se conhecimento é poder, que país governado por industriais dará a verdadeira educação? Cuidado com o feedback da miséria!" Tet Ramon "Eu temo pela minha espécie quando penso que Deus é justo." Thomas Jefferson

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Visio and Inkscape
by Ted Gould 12 Oct '07

12 Oct '07

Hey all, In looking for XSLT scripts that'd be useful for Linux I ran across: http://vdxtosvg.sf.net/ It's a script to use the XML format that is used by Visio, and turns it into SVG. Seems potentially useful. But, I'm e-mailed the author and he's not really interested in maintaining it. It seems like he'd probably be willing to answer questions, but I didn't ask explicitly. Anyone have Visio and interested? --Ted

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Order of Selected Items Presented To Extension Scripts
by Redefined Horizons 12 Oct '07

12 Oct '07

Warning: This question might be specefic to Inkscape extension scripts written in Python. I've come up with ideas for several little extensions scripts I'd like to write for Inkscape. Most deal with allowing the type of "precision" drawing that would make Inkscape more suitable for precision drawing. I keep running into an obstacle when I think about the design of these scripts, and I thought I might get some help here. An example may be the easiest way to ask my question. I want to write a script that makes one line segment parallel or perpendicular to another line segment. The problem is that I want to make the line segment selected last by the user parallel to the line segment that is selected first, not the other way around. I'm looking for a way to do this without having the user run two scripts. The first to select the line that will not be modified, and the second to select the line that will be modified and that then performs the operation. Does Inkscape "deliver" the selected items to an extension script in the order they were selected? Or is the order random? If the order isn't random, which items (or nodes) would come first? Those selected last by the user, or those selected first? I hope my question makes sense. I might be pushing the envelope of what is possible with Inkscape's current extensions script system. Thanks, Scott Huey

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] [Inkscape-user] Losing colours when copying
by MenTaLguY 11 Oct '07

11 Oct '07

On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:34:57 +0200, "Maarten van der Velde" <Maarten.van-der-Velde@...1771...> wrote: > I'm just wondering why it happens? Are the names for the gradients > assigned based on a incrementing counter? Can't we just assign them > random numbers? Random numbers aren't guaranteed to be unique either. -mental

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Color Tweak - Option to not create new gradient
by microUgly 11 Oct '07

11 Oct '07

Is there an option so when you tweak the colours of a gradient it modifies the current gradient rather than makes a copy then modifies it? I normally reuse gradients on multiple objects to intentially keep them same for if I decide to change colours. I don't know if others feel the same, but my preference would be that when I tweak the gradient on one object, all other objects that also use that gradient should change also. Perhaps a toggle in the tool control bar? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Color-Tweak---Option-to-not-create-new-gradient-tf456… Sent from the Inkscape - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Tool names in tooltips
by microUgly 11 Oct '07

11 Oct '07

One minor issue I have with Inkscape is that the tools aren't named in the tooltips. This doesn't effect my own use, but when attempting to help someone else I like to refer to tools by their correct names and I don't know what some tools are called off the top of my head. Refering to them by their description in impractical. The only way I know how to find out the correct name of a tool is to look at the Keys and Mouse reference. Is it possible to put the tool name in the tooltips? Or are the names of the tools already revealed within Inkscape in a way that I have overlooked? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Tool-names-in-tooltips-tf4604916.html#a13148870 Sent from the Inkscape - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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