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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Curve Stitching first steps
by unknown＠example.com 30 Aug '07

30 Aug '07

Hey Josh, (CC to devel) The pentool bug is a good one :), yep I only thought of using the node tool for editting paths doh! Stacking is definitely planned. But... at this moment it will not help you a lot. The problem is that the path-along-path effect has its inputs switched around: path-along-path: svgd input = path to put something along (can only be one path, probably cannot contain gaps or anything) parameter input = path to put along the other path The stacking will work like this (because this is simple to implement [1]): output of one effect goes to the *svgd input* of the next one. As you can see, this will not function as desired for stacking curve stitching and path-along-path. "So why is path-along-path made this way? It is also not handy for applying it to groups!" The problem now is that only the svgd input can be editted on-canvas. The parameter paths cannot. So imagine having that fish bend along a curve, and then not being able to nicely edit that curve :S On-canvas editting of path parameters has very high priority on my list, but it is not so easy. This curve stitching thing was really easy to implement (just look at the code), and it seemed fun :-) Cheers! Johan [1] probably I should also add a method to pass the result of an effect as path parameter; it will start looking like the whole filter thing then. Perhaps it is better to make the SVG2 vector effects first. ________________________________ From: Josh Andler [mailto:scislac@...400...] Sent: donderdag 30 augustus 2007 2:57 To: Engelen, J.B.C. (Johan) Subject: Re: Curve Stitching first steps this is beyond cool... is it in the plans to stack LPEs at some point? Just wondering. :) Anyway, this is basically effect lines (with the exception of being able to "path on path" with the lines)! Woohoo! And it seems like this should really be helpful with one project in particular that I have occasionally thought of working on. I'll have to play with it a bit. 1 bug I found - on the object that has the two 2 node lines, select it and change to the pen tool. You'll see that it shows the ends of all the "stitch" lines as if they can be worked with using that tool (which doesn't work). 1 easy to reproduce crash - with either stitched object, use the node tool and select one of the two subpaths and hit Shift+R. Boom! (shift+r reverses paths) On 8/29/07, J.B.C.Engelen@...1578... <mailto:J.B.C.Engelen@...1578...> <J.B.C.Engelen@...1578... <mailto:J.B.C.Engelen@...1578...> > wrote: <<curvestitch.svg>> The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: curvestitch.svg Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled.

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] translation not working
by unknown＠example.com 30 Aug '07

30 Aug '07

See the mailmessage below from the translator list. const EnumData<NR::FilterPrimitiveType> FPData[NR::NR_FILTER_ENDPRIMITIVETYPE] = { {NR::NR_FILTER_BLEND, _("Blend"), "svg:feBlend"}, ... }; Does this kind of C++ initialization work for translations? Perhaps the locale has not been set correctly when the _("Blend") is called at the start of the program? Probably we should switch to the N_() thing and do the real translation every time when the data is needed. Regards, Johan > -----Original Message----- > From: Alexandre Prokoudine [mailto:alexandre.prokoudine@...400...] > Sent: donderdag 30 augustus 2007 9:08 > To: Inkscape Translators; Engelen, J.B.C. (Johan); Nicholas Bishop > Subject: translation not working > > Hi, > > As of revision 15936 I'm experiencing a quite weird thing: > part of translated messages doesn't show up as translated. > > On this screenshot you see bottom part of Fill and Stroke dialog. > > http://img27.picoodle.com/img/img27/9/8/29/f_messagesm_281ac67.png > > "_Blend mode" (Режим) and "B_lur" (Размывание) show up as > translated (coming from > src/ui/widget/filter-effect-chooser.cpp), but names of blend > modes (src/filter-enums.cpp) like "Screen" --- don't. > > Same thing with names of live path effects. They reside in > src/live_effects/effects.cpp and being translated still don't > show up as such. > > Any idea why? Am I doing something silly? > > Alexandre >

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Fwd: [Inkscape-user] Inkscape is a staff pick at Apple downloads
by jiho 30 Aug '07

30 Aug '07

As heathenx remarked Begin forwarded message: > From: heathenx <heathenx@...400...> > jiho wrote the following on 8/29/2007 9:37 AM: >> Looking for something else I just passed cross this on Apple's site: >> Inkscape is marked as staff pick by Apple currently. > [...] > i saw this on their web site: > > http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/unix_open_source/inkscape.html > > "Note: On start-up, it will take a couple of minutes before the > main window appears (while the > application builds the font cache.)" > > ...a couple of minutes? are you serious? i don't use a mac but is > this what some of you go through? The text there is quite scarce and not very well formulated: About Inkscape A vector graphics editor (SVG format) featuring transparency, gradients, node editing, pattern fills, PNG export, and more. Aiming for capabilities similar to Illustrator, CorelDraw, Visio, etc. Note: On start-up, it will take a couple of minutes before the main window appears (while the application builds the font cache.) I tried to re-submit Inkscape as an Apple download, with updated information and a new screenshot but it is only at the end of this process that I realized that this would submit Inkscape under my name and developer ID. They will probably discard my request anyway, since Inkscape is already there, but it would be nice to know: - who subscripted as Apple Developers under the name "Inkscape developers" and hence posted Inkscape for the first time? - could this person update the information on the site. I can provide the information I wrote (taken from the front page an release notes), so it'll just be copy-paste, and here is my screenshot: http://jo.irisson.free.fr/dropbox/inkscape/inkscape.png Cheers, JiHO --- http://jo.irisson.free.fr/

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Gradients.
by Tomasz Kobiela 30 Aug '07

30 Aug '07

Hi, I wonder why gradients in inkscape doesn't look smooth. When I look on them I see that they compose from regular lines. Can't gradients look so smooth like in photoshop or gimp ? --- Kind regards. Kobi.

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] SPAM-LOW: Attempting first build
by joel＠...1709... 28 Aug '07

28 Aug '07

I suspect that this is a bleeding edge problem, because the OCAL dialogs are under active development. Hopefully these problems will be resolved within a day or two (although you may be unlucky and run into some new ones - there's maybe 25% chance of that). Welcome to inkscape! Best regards Joel ---------------------------------------- From: Dan H <dunno@...1090...> Sent: 28 August 2007 10:03 To: inkscape-devel <inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: SPAM-LOW: [Inkscape-devel] Attempting first build Hello people, I've finally decided to take a jump into the cold water and fetch a SVN copy of inkscape. Don't know yet if I'm actually going to contribute or if I just want something to complain about. Anyway, make fails with some error (quoted below) and I'm wondering if I just happen to have fetched a broken bleeding-edge source tree, or if something else is going wrong. Maybe someone could point me at the latest version that built fine so I can "downgrade" to it via SVN. BTW, I know what the error means; it's just that I'd like to start out with a known-good source tree rather than trying to hunt down errors in an unknown project. Here's the error: ui/dialog/ocaldialogs.h:247: error: expected class-name before '{' token ui/dialog/ocaldialogs.h: In constructor 'Inkscape::UI::Dialog::FileListViewText::FileListViewText(guint, Inkscape::UI::Dialog::SVGPreview&, Gtk::Label&, Gtk::Button&)': ui/dialog/ocaldialogs.h:250: error: class 'Inkscape::UI::Dialog::FileListViewText' does not have any field named 'ListViewText' make[2]: *** [file.o] Error 1 Thanks, --D. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ _______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel

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Attempting first build
by Dan H 28 Aug '07

28 Aug '07

Hello people, I've finally decided to take a jump into the cold water and fetch a SVN copy of inkscape. Don't know yet if I'm actually going to contribute or if I just want something to complain about. Anyway, make fails with some error (quoted below) and I'm wondering if I just happen to have fetched a broken bleeding-edge source tree, or if something else is going wrong. Maybe someone could point me at the latest version that built fine so I can "downgrade" to it via SVN. BTW, I know what the error means; it's just that I'd like to start out with a known-good source tree rather than trying to hunt down errors in an unknown project. Here's the error: ui/dialog/ocaldialogs.h:247: error: expected class-name before ‘{’ token ui/dialog/ocaldialogs.h: In constructor ‘Inkscape::UI::Dialog::FileListViewText::FileListViewText(guint, Inkscape::UI::Dialog::SVGPreview&, Gtk::Label&, Gtk::Button&)’: ui/dialog/ocaldialogs.h:250: error: class ‘Inkscape::UI::Dialog::FileListViewText’ does not have any field named ‘ListViewText’ make[2]: *** [file.o] Error 1 Thanks, --D.

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#inkscape-user-support channel
by Vladimir Savic 27 Aug '07

27 Aug '07

There are many users that come on #inkscape irc channel to ask user questions. Wouldn't it be more appropriate to open another channel for user questions? That way we (users) will not bother developers if they don't want to be disturbed. And questions will be more on-topic that way. We can then track down frequent FAQ and move them to inkscape wiki. Of course providing basic informations to newly appeared users where to find documentation - like wiki, address of faq, location of keybindings file etc. Thanx in advance, Vlada

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Slower snapping between 0.45 and devel
by jiho 27 Aug '07

27 Aug '07

Hello everyone, I noticed a non negligible difference in responsiveness between Inkscape 0.45 and current devel version on a "complex" (4000 objects) drawing... in the wrong way unfortunately (current devel is slower than 0.45). Since disabling snapping altogether in devel remedies to the slowness I think it involves snapping. I tried to test both version with the same parameters and selected these options (and only these): 0.45 snap nodes to objects snap to objects paths snap sensitivity 10 devel snap nodes snap to paths snap sensitivity 10 And the devel version is still slower than the released version. In fact it will hang for a little while (like 1-2 sec with 100% CPU usage) before first moving the objects, subsequent movements being a little bit faster (but still slower than 0.45). Here is the file on which I remarked it, for you to test: http://jo.irisson.free.fr/dropbox/inkscape/slowSnapper.svg try selecting the text objects at the bottom and moving them for example. Since I know the snapping code is begin worked on now, I thought I would report this. Thanks in advance for any improvements. Cheers, JiHO --- http://jo.irisson.free.fr/

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NEW: four more modes in Tweak tool
by bulia byak 27 Aug '07

27 Aug '07

Of the four new modes, two are for editing path shapes (Attract and Repel) and two are for coloring objects (Color Paint and Color Jitter) . I also renamed Melt to Shrink and Inflate to Grow as discussed before. * The Attract and Repel modes work by moving each affected point on a path towards (Attract) or from (Repel) the cursor point. In some cases this may look similar to Shrink and Grow, but the difference is that shrinking/growing moves paths perpendicularly to the path in each point, whereas attracting/repelling moves them to or from the cursor regardless of the path shape. These modes are similar to the Pinch effect in ; you can use them for various central-symmetric distortions in parts of your paths. Color-changing modes The Color Paint and Color Jitter modes, unlike the path editing modes, change the colors of objects instead of their shapes. Yet they share enough common features with the path-changing modes to be part of the same tool: These modes also use a circular soft-edged brush controlled by the Width and Force parameters on the Controls bar and affected by the pen pressure (if you have a pressure-sensitive tablet). * Color Paint applies the style of the tool to the selected objects under the brush. The style of the tool is visible in the style swatch at the rightmost end of the tool's control bar; it can be changed by clicking on the color palette or by any other style assignment command, such as Fill and Stroke dialog. (Note: unlike all other tools, in Tweak tool in Color Paint mode you cannot assign style directly to selected objects; any style-setting command changes the tool's style instead.) The fill from the tool's style applies to the fills of the painted objects, and the stroke applies to the strokes. If the tool's style has no fill or no stroke, it won't affect fills or strokes, correspondingly. For example, if you want to color the fills of objects blue but leave their strokes untouched, assign blue fill to the tool's style (just click blue on the palette) but set its stroke to None (middle-click the Stroke swatch in the statusbar). Similarly, master opacity in the tool's style This mode allows you to literally paint over objects, shifting their colors towards the target style of the tool. For example, if you paint with yellow fill over a blue-filled object, the object will become greenish blue, then green, then yellowish green, and end up being exactly the green color you're painting with. This speed of this gradual transition depends on the Force and pen pressure; also, objects touched by the periphery of the brush are less affected than those hit by the brush center. Overall, using this tool is very similar to a soft brush in a raster editor such as Gimp or Photoshop. * Color Jitter mode does not apply any color, but instead jitters (randomizes) the colors of the objects it touches. The force of the action determines how strong is the randomization, i.e. how far the colors deviate from the original values. This mode does not use the tool's style. Both modes work on flat fills and gradients; for gradients, the tool takes into account not only the position of the entire object with gradient, but also the position of each gradient stop relative to the brush. This means that, for example, you can change the blue color only in an object filled with blue-red gradient simply by painting over its blue end with a brush small enough to not touch the red. Channels Color Paint and Color Jitter honor the Channels control. This control comprises the four buttons: H, S, L, and O, which allow you to turn on and off the tool's action on the object's hue, saturation, lightness, and opacity, correspondingly. For example, if you want to raise the saturation of some part of your drawing without changing the hue, select some maximum-saturation color (e.g. pure red) and turn off all Channels buttons except S. Similarly, you can replace the hues without affecting saturation or lightness (only H pressed), or lighten/darken all colors without changing their hues and saturation (only L pressed). Pressing O allows you to apply the master opacity from the tool's style to the master opacity of objects (but not fill or stroke opacity). Usage notes Color painting with Tweak tool is similar, but not exactly analogous to bitmap painting. Even though the tool itself works as a soft brush, it still applies its color to vector objects, which behave as vector objects usually do. For example, if you want to change the tint of the face in your drawing, and if a hand in the drawing is part of the same object as the face, that hand will change its tint too even if it's located far from the point you are painting. (We foresee a "fracture" command in one of the next versions of Inkscape which will help you turn a monolithic object into a mosaic of small fragments that will be then easy to paint with Tweak tool.) Still, even with this limitation, color painting is a novel way of dealing with vector drawings which allows you to quickly and intuitively make adjustments which would be awkward and slow with traditional approach. Drawings containing patterns or scatterings of small independent objects are best suited for color painting with Tweak tool. Examples include: * freehand drawings with Calligraphy pen, consisting of many separate strokes; * gradient meshes imported from Adobe Illustrator files (Inkscape renders these meshes as lattices of small polygons; while there's no direct support for gradient meshes in Inkscape yet, color painting on such lattices is almost as good); * text converted to paths and with Break Apart command applied so that each letter is a separate path; * patterns made with the Tile Clones command; note that you need to unset the fill and/or stroke on the original object and use the Color tab to assign some initial color to the clones - this will make them paintable with the Tweak tool without unlinking. Moreover, color tweaking can be useful for compositions with a few objects or even for single objects. Unlike all other color selection methods, painting with the Tweak tool implements the color mixing metaphor which is much more familiar to traditional artists than RGB sliders or even the color wheel. For example, start with a rectagle of pure blue color; then, pick different colors by Color Paint and apply light touches with minimum Force and minimum pen pressure: add a little green, a little brown, a little yellow, etc. until you have the exact hue you need. Similarly, you can whiten or blacken any hue by admixing white or black. You can also use color tweaking to add a tint, darken/lighten, saturate/desaturate, or color jitter your entire drawing. Just select all in all layers, zoom out, choose a large brush width so it covers all of the drawing, and apply a little color tweaking (with minimum Force) that will therefore affect all visible objects. -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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Alt-mouse
by Thomas Worthington 27 Aug '07

27 Aug '07

An awful lot of Inkscape's functions (I notice that the new touch selection is another one) seem to be relying on the alt-key being held down and various things done with the mouse. To say that this is a pain under Linux is an understatement since alt-mouse is used by window managers to allow quick manipulation of window sizes and positions, which is vital on large screens. Given that Inkscape is only one app and alt-mouse is effectively in use by every other app on the system for something else, is there any easy way to change these shortcuts to something like meta-mouse or something (anything!) else? Is it the case that most Inkscape developers are using Windows and are simply not aware of how difficult these alt-mouse shortcuts make it for Linux users? Thomas Worthington

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