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PDF export seems clipped at the top with margin at bottom
by R (Chandra) Chandrasekhar 02 May '07

02 May '07

Dear Folks, Apologies for cross-posting here after trying inkscape-users. Perhaps this is the correct forum. I use Inkscape 0.45 (Feb 3 2007) on a Kubuntu Dapper Linux PC. It is a great program and thanks for it! I have hit a minor but niggling problem. I am trying to get a tight bounding box around a single exclamation mark input as text at large font size, selected, converted from text to path, and saved as a PDF, from within Inkscape. I have used Path-> Object to path and File -> Document properties -> Page -> Fit page to selection and exported as PDF. There seems to be a margin beyond the object at the bottom, and the top of the object is clipped, very likely by the same amount. This is seen when viewing the exported PDF at 6400% in Acroread. The dotted box that appears in Inkscape when the object is selected appears perfect. The settings for snapping to grid/object/path have been toggled with no change in behaviour of the exported file. These problems persist for any text string, regardless of font, converted to paths, and exported as a PDF. I can post PDFs illustrating this if told where to post them. Is this a bug, and if so, is there a workaround? Otherwise, how may I avoid it? TIA. --Chandra 02 May 07

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Java Native Access
by MenTaLguY 01 May '07

01 May '07

Since I've been tossing the idea of using Java for scripting around a bit, this seems like a much better alternative to JNI for writing Java bindings to C code: http://jna.dev.java.net/ -mental

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new patch: cairo ps output
by Adib Taraben 01 May '07

01 May '07

Hello, I made a small patch to create PS output via cairo. I used some cairo export functions already there. Hope that will be useful (in some next future). For now I noticed that the cairo does not show any text and mostly falls back into a rasterer and so not generating any vectors. Adib. https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1710484&group_id=…

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] GTK icon sizes
by jiho 01 May '07

01 May '07

On 2007-April-30 , at 23:15 , Jon A. Cruz wrote: > On Apr 30, 2007, at 9:25 AM, jiho wrote: >> So if I understand well, ICON_SIZE_DECORATION is something >> specific to Inkscape. Can I control which standard GTK icon size >> it gets assigned to from the theme only? >> Currently I use: >> gtk-icon-sizes = "gtk-menu=13,13:gtk-button=16,16:gtk-large- >> toolbar=24,24:gtk-small-toolbar=16,16:gtk-dialog=48,48" >> I would like the menu icons to remain small and the DECORATION >> icons to be gtk-small-toolbar size, if that's possible. Otherwise >> I'll just use 16x16 in the menus but the fact that these toolbar >> elements get assigned to the size to the menu icons seems strange. > [...] > > Yes, that size is specific to Inkscape. You can specify it in a gtk > rc file with > > gtk-icon-sizes = "inkscape-decoration=64,64" > > (as you can see, that one will make them huge) OK, thank you, I'll do this in my particular theme since it's clearly related to Inkscape. > The intent of that custom size was to have things that are > "smaller" than the normal toolbar items. They could be less > important, or perhaps are visual state indicators that are > additional and informational. Bulia is the one who really wanted to > keep them smaller, and I agree that overall that improves the UI. > > I believe that the code defaults to the "menu" size, since it is > usually smaller and about the size desired. *Then* whenever > possible the code goes and registers our size as 75% of the menu > icon size. On the smaller ones it is not as noticeable, but when > more dots are specified (high-res monitor, large print theme, etc.) > that starts to show more. > > Again, the intent of that size is to have visual items that are > smaller than the small toolbar size. I understand this and agree that it improves the UI and is conceptually justified to have those icons a bit smaller than the rest of the toolbar's icons. However, if it is possible to specify those sizes as percentage of a standard size, why not use 75% of gtk- small-toolbar size? This way, these icons are guaranteed to be `"smaller" than the normal toolbar items`. Indeed gtk-menu size seems completely independent from the toolbar size to me and there may be themes in which people want their menu icons to be very big or very small and they will make Inkscape look strange, don't you think? Just to go a little further because I know you implemented the color swatches bar: how are the sizes decided there? is it something along the lines: tiny=50% of inkscape-decoration small=75% of inkscape-decoration normal=100% ... or something like: tiny=gtk-menu-size small=gtk-small-toolbar-size normal=gtk-large-toolbar-size ... Indeed I remarked that, with some themes, tiny may be bigger than small which is odd. > If you go to your .inkscape/preferences file, look for the top- > level "debug" group, possibly near the end. Then look for an > "icons" group in there. Set dumpDefault to 1 and you should get > this when you run: > > ** Message: Default icon sizes: > ** Message: =-- 0 size:1 (16, 16) 'GTK_ICON_SIZE_MENU' > ** Message: 0 size:1 (16, 16) > ** Message: =-- 1 size:2 (18, 18) 'GTK_ICON_SIZE_SMALL_TOOLBAR' > ** Message: 1 size:2 (16, 16) > ** Message: =-- 2 size:3 (24, 24) 'GTK_ICON_SIZE_LARGE_TOOLBAR' > ** Message: 2 size:3 (24, 24) > ** Message: =-- 3 size:4 (20, 20) 'GTK_ICON_SIZE_BUTTON' > ** Message: 3 size:4 (20, 20) > ** Message: =-- 4 size:5 (32, 32) 'GTK_ICON_SIZE_DND' > ** Message: 4 size:5 (32, 32) > ** Message: =-- 5 size:6 (48, 48) 'GTK_ICON_SIZE_DIALOG' > ** Message: 5 size:6 (48, 48) > ** Message: =-- 6 size:7 (12, 12) 'inkscape-decoration' > ** Message: 6 size:7 (12, 12) > > Here is the snippet of my prefs: > <group > id="debug"> > <group > id="icons" > overlaySvg="0" > dumpDefault="1" > dumpGtk="0" > dumpSvg="0" /> > </group> > </inkscape> OK that's a good tip. Thanks. JiHO --- http://jo.irisson.free.fr/

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GTK icon sizes
by jiho 30 Apr '07

30 Apr '07

Hello everybody, I am working on a GTK theme and I noticed some strange things with icon sizes. The icon sizes definitions for GTK I could find are: # gtk-menu -> icon in menus: file, edit, etc. # gtk-button -> icon on yes, no, delete, cancel, back, forward, etc. buttons # gtk-small-toolbar -> not sure about this # gtk-large-toolbar -> toolbars icons # gtk-dnd -> don't know # gtk-dialog -> notification icon in dialogs (e.g. warning, error,etc.) # panel-menu -> icon size in so called 'start' menu but Inkscape apparently uses gtk-menu size for some toolbars icons, instead of gtk-small-toolbar size as used for the rest of the toolbars: - the fill and stroke swatches both at the bottom of the window and at the end of each tool for which they are relevant - the eye and lock icons next to the layer drop down - the lock icon between width and height in selector tool toolbars as well as all icons at the right end of the toolbar - the magnifier icon at the top-right of the rulers/scollbars - the last icon of the node tool toolbar - the connector tool toolbar last two icons - the gradient tool toolbar icons - the dropper tool toolbar icons It does not look like and intended behavior but maybe it is. And a less important problem: in Inkscape's icon.svg, gtk-small- tollbar size icons are designed at 16x16 and gtk-large-toolbar size icons are 24x24. All icons of the fill and stroke dialog are designed a gtk-large-toolbar size (24x24) but the plain, gradient, pattern etc. icons of the fill and stroke dialog are displayed at gtk-small- toolbar size (16x16) which results in less crispy icons. JiHO --- http://jo.irisson.free.fr/

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Inkscape icon
by jiho 30 Apr '07

30 Apr '07

Hello everybody, Does anyone know who designed the icon Inkscape uses on OS X? (you can see it here: http://inkscape.modevia.com/macosx-snap/?C=M;O=D). Does anyone have it in a vector format? I would like to remove the paintbrush from the icon to make it more consistent with Inkscape on the other platforms, if that's OK with the author. Then I'll use this new icon to create OS X like document icons for SVG, EPS, etc. What about the plan to change current icon to a Tangoified version? In which case I'll use this one directly. Thanks. JiHO --- http://jo.irisson.free.fr/

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potrace 1.8
by Alexandre Prokoudine 29 Apr '07

29 Apr '07

Hi, On April 9 potrace 1.8 was released, two years after the previous one ;-) There are some minor fixes, improved portability and changes in PDF backend. Is there anything we could improve on our implementation? http://potrace.sourceforge.net/ Alexandre

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inkscape.org down
by David Christian Berg 28 Apr '07

28 Apr '07

Hey guys! I'm heavily promoting Inkscape within ESTIEM (www.estiem.org) but now got a response that www.inkscape.org wasn't working. I checked and have to admit, that that girl telling me so was right. I hope you get it fixed soon :) I want more people to get hooked up with it. David

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] [Inkscape-user] In praise of Inkscape
by jiho 28 Apr '07

28 Apr '07

On 2007-April-28 , at 06:27 , Albert Cardona wrote: > We use Inkscape to make posters for scientific meetings. The ease with > which we can create beautiful, unintrusive text boxes and flow > charts is > unparalleled. And of course cartoons of all sorts. I can't hardly > believe we used to bring in PowerPoint for the task! those nightmarish > days are over. Plus, Inkscape intergrates very well with the host OS, > i.e. dragging and dropping images and text just works. > > In this regard, I must mention that exporting to PDF is a big deal. > Figuring out the exact dimensions of the poster relative to the final > print is some sort of obscure magic for us, simple mortal users. With > PDFs, printers (or their drivers) have zero problems to scale on > the fly > and thus generate perfect maximized print outs of our gigantic > posters. That's very nice to know! I also use Inkscape to do scientific posters and as I don't want to bother with scaling computations I usually design it directly at final size. Inkscape deals as easily with a 1m*1m page than with an A4 one and it allows me to specify sizes (including font sizes) in cm and get a better feeling of how big things will actually be. In addition, raster images (jpeg, png, tiff and the like) are often imported among the scalable objects and having them included at their final size allows me to know how pixelized they will appear in print. > What surpises me, though, is that exporting to PDF seems to leave > images > uncompressed, resulting in 300+ Mb posters. I don't know which pdf exporter you used (regular PDF or Cairo PDF) but at some point these exporters "rasterize" some elements (another reason why designing the poster at final size in interesting: these elements still look sharp and crisp). Transparent areas or gradients for example are converted from scalable entities to a bunch of pixels. Given how big posters usually are it implies creating a large number of pixels hence the size. Nevertheless I never experienced such large sizes! > In short: congratulations! And keep at it! We take time to tell our > visitors (at the poster, during the conference) how the poster was > made, > since they usually comment on how beautiful it looks (no kidding). > Inkscape, Blender and ImageJ are always mentioned. I usually include inkscape logo in a corner of the poster, together with the website address, to give credit to the Inkscape team for their work. Inkscape logo is so nice and original that it can even attract readers! There is section on the website dedicated to use cases of Inkscape in "real life". What about adding a part explaining the design of scientific posters? I had prepared a few screenshots some time ago and I re-wrote accompanying texts (see below - please correct my english where necessary). What do people think? Is it good enough for the website? BTW Bryce or anyone, it seems I can't connect to inkscape.org currently (I get a 104 error: "Connection reset by peer" from osuosl) -------------------------- A scientific poster has to be precisely organized, full of information, yet visually attracting to gather a large audience. Furthermore it should be printable at different sizes (final size poster and handouts). Inkscape gives us scalability and an unparalleled ease of use which allow to meet these goals elegantly. It make you forget the nightmarish days when you used PowerPoint for the task! The poster below was designed entirely in Inkscape for presentation on a 4-foot-high by 8-foot-wide poster board (1.2m x 2.4m). The page size was set up to be the final printing size because Inkscape deals with it as well as with an A4 page. http://jo.irisson.free.fr/dropbox/inkscape/ poster_publish_ghostscript.pdf [WARNING: big file. 7.5 Mb] Temporarily masking layers and using the outline mode allowed to work on this complicated file (> 5000 paths, large amount of text) while keeping things responsive enough even on a mid level laptop. http://jo.irisson.free.fr/dropbox/inkscape/poster_inkscape_outline.png The gradients and scripts from the "Effects" menu helped to create an attractive look [note: this was pre 0.45 so blur was not current yet]. The bitmap tracing feature and Open Clipart Library provided scale independent eye candy for some illustrations. http://jo.irisson.free.fr/dropbox/inkscape/poster_inkscape_eye_candy.png The text was flowed into custom shaped frames so that it had a "clever" position with respect to the graphics. It was edited though the Text Tool palette which was easier on the eye and helped to focus on content rather than on layout for a while. http://jo.irisson.free.fr/dropbox/inkscape/poster_inkscape_text.png All scientific plots were produced in scalable formats and converted to SVG. They were therefore completely editable within the poster which allowed to have a unified look (for the fonts, line width, colors etc.). The "Apply style" command (SHIFT+CTRL+V), the styles bar and the swatches panel, helped to work with styles quickly and easily. http://jo.irisson.free.fr/dropbox/inkscape/poster_inkscape_style1.png http://jo.irisson.free.fr/dropbox/inkscape/poster_inkscape_style2.png Finally the SVG file was exported to EPS or PDF for print. The text was converted to shapes to avoid font problems when bringing the file to the printing company. The PDF scaled down nicely to fit an A4 and hence serve as handouts. -------------------------- JiHO --- http://jo.irisson.free.fr/

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] In praise of Inkscape
by Bryce Harrington 27 Apr '07

27 Apr '07

It's great to hear you're getting good use of inkscape. I'll forward this along to the development lists. Thanks, Bryce On Fri, Apr 27, 2007 at 09:19:27AM -0500, Shane A. Stillwell wrote: > Hello, > > I'm not much of a graphics developer, but every now and then I need a > graphic for a website I'm doing. I've only been using Inkscape for about > 6 months and I really enjoy it. > > Recently I put a copy of Adobe Illustrator on my Macbook Pro and thought > "Surely this industry standard powerhouse package is more powerful than > Inkscape." Wrong! I quickly learned that the simple things I took for > granted in Inkscape are not possible in Illustrator (at least not > intuitive enough for me to find after hours of searching). > > For example, adding corners to a star on the fly, editing the radius of > a rectangle, and so on. > > The blurring feature in the latest version really put Inkscape on a > whole new level. It was pivotal in creating the main graphic for this > website (http://www.wildpaddle.com). > > My only lament is that Inkscape requires X11 on Mac. > > Thank you so much for such an excellent product! > > -- > Shane A. Stillwell > Shane@...1730... > http://www.wildpaddle.com > 218-390-5493 (mobile)

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