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Re: [Inkscape-docs] Website design
by Hinerangi Courtenay 14 Oct '16

14 Oct '16

Hi Maren :) Yes a preconfigured virtual machine would be so great! I tried setting up a vagrantfile with the idea of sharing it with anyone who needed it (eg. Mac users), but got lost in the Django details :( Launchpad is also an unfamiliar tool for me (used to Github, Bitbucket, Gitlab, etc), so I really should take the time to get used to it (at least just the code/issues/pull requests). Cheers,Hinerangi On Friday, 14 October 2016 4:16 AM, "inkscape-docs-request@...122...forge.net" <inkscape-docs-request(a)lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: Message: 1 Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 14:15:38 +0200 From: Maren Hachmann <maren@...68...> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Website design To: inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: <97049081-b886-5e8a-f435-523c63ab4834@...68...> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Am 13.10.2016 um 12:33 schrieb Hinerangi Courtenay: > Hi Sylvain, > > I'm sorry I didn't see your email regarding the responsive design, but I > quickly checked the website on my phone, great work! I haven't looked at > the bug report or the code, but I'll check that out later :) > > I'm not sure when the mobile styles went to prod, but if you want I can > give you a hand to get it working better cross-platform (it's not > responsive on my laptop). I tried working on the responsive styles a few > times, but the local dev environment was always difficult on my machine, > so it was hard to just do the work, and frustratingly I never got very far. - Hinerangi, great to see you again (and all this sudden buzzing of people, it's amazing!) Would it help you to have a VirtualMachine for VirtualBox, where everything is set up and the only things you'd need to do is open a terminal and enter a command to run the server / edit the files? Regards, Maren ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 04:16:47 +0200 From: Maren Hachmann <maren@...68...> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Website design To: Fr?d?ric Guimont <frederic.guimont@...132...> Cc: inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: <0fe8501a-970f-2eeb-e8c6-5eac95a07e9f@...68...> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Am 13.10.2016 um 16:36 schrieb Fr?d?ric Guimont: > I like the vm idea. I'm used to working with Ansible for our projects at work. I've prepared a VM for VirtualBox (or any other virtualization software that can read ova files) and some instructions for use, and could upload it later today, so anyone who is interested can use it for working on the website development version locally. Regards, Maren > I'm also available for responsive frontend work. I can code or do code review as needed. > > -- > Fr?d?ric Guimont, Consultant en logiciels libres > Savoir-faire Linux > > T?l?phone : 418-525-7354 #362 > Ring ID : d9396b8004d26120f1e948ac7a075ab7dd165077 > www.savoirfairelinux.com > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Maren Hachmann" <maren@...68...> >> To: inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net >> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 8:15:38 AM >> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Website design > >> Am 13.10.2016 um 12:33 schrieb Hinerangi Courtenay: >>> Hi Sylvain, >>> >>> I'm sorry I didn't see your email regarding the responsive design, but I >>> quickly checked the website on my phone, great work! I haven't looked at >>> the bug report or the code, but I'll check that out later :) >>> >>> I'm not sure when the mobile styles went to prod, but if you want I can >>> give you a hand to get it working better cross-platform (it's not >>> responsive on my laptop). I tried working on the responsive styles a few >>> times, but the local dev environment was always difficult on my machine, >>> so it was hard to just do the work, and frustratingly I never got very far. >> >> - Hinerangi, great to see you again (and all this sudden buzzing of >> people, it's amazing!) >> >> Would it help you to have a VirtualMachine for VirtualBox, where >> everything is set up and the only things you'd need to do is open a >> terminal and enter a command to run the server / edit the files? >> >> Regards, >> Maren

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Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] how about some marketing and outreach?
by unknown＠example.com 14 Oct '16

14 Oct '16

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Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] how about some marketing and outreach?
by Martin Owens 13 Oct '16

13 Oct '16

On Wed, 2016-10-12 at 11:07 -0400, Frédéric Guimont wrote: > Here's the link, for the curious, (don't mean to spam, though I think > it's on topic): http://quebeccite.com Did you know, you could post the images as svg files and make the text translatable ;-) > I can also help moderate the forums, make tutorials and such (I've > made an intro to the powerstroke a while back on youtube). Curating existing youtube videos would be a really big help. Getting them all into a youtube playlist and being able to put them into the inkscape website gallery system. We have a system where if you post a youtube video, the video will be embeded into the page and so we can collect them and put them into the website fairly easily. Martin,

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Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] how about some marketing and outreach?
by Sylvain Chiron 12 Oct '16

12 Oct '16

Hi Frédéric, Le 12/10/2016 à 17:07, Frédéric Guimont a écrit : > I'm willing to help out on marketing and web issues too. I'm currently making a weekly webcomic (in french) using only inkscape. If I can help with a comic, I'd be happy to do that too. > > Here's the link, for the curious, (don't mean to spam, though I think it's on topic): http://quebeccite.com It’s on topic. Maybe you’d mind reading the indented paragraph there: https://inkscape.org/fr/communaute/sur-internet/ By the way, I don’t really understand the 40px left margin. When browsing the site with a mobile phone, it’s quite annoying. > I can also help moderate the forums, make tutorials and such (I've made an intro to the powerstroke a while back on youtube). Then I think you should join inkscape-docs. Did you see my last emails to the docs list? Actually you’re arriving just in time, I was requesting help for the second-to-last item in the Community To-Do List: https://inkscape.org/fr/contribuer/choses-a-faire/ Have a look at this message: https://sourceforge.net/p/inkscape/mailman/message/35421641/ Would you have the necessary skills — :P? -- Sylvain

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Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Inkscape Floss manual (was: how about some marketing and outreach?)
by Brynn 12 Oct '16

12 Oct '16

Hi Tuxun, Oh wow -- I didn't know we had 2 people working on the translation -- that's great! Thank you both :-) And thanks for the link. I'll keep track of it this time. How is it going with the translating? I guess we can only see what has been translated so far? Does the French version have a page for every item in the menu on the left? Oh yes, that is much more than I thought! For some reason, I thought it was just one chapter. Anyway, thanks again! All best, brynn __________________________________________________ From: Tuxun Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2016 10:50 PM To: Brynn Cc: Inkscape-Devel ; Inkscape-Docs ; mihaela.jurkovic@...2... Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Inkscape Floss manual (was: how about some marketing and outreach?) Le 2016-10-09 17:56, Brynn a écrit : Hi Friends, I've recently been contacted by a long time Inkscape user and former active moderator on InkscapeForum.com. (Technically she still is a moderator, but not active for some years.) And I think she also used to help with bug management and testing. And many of you may recognize her as the co-author of PacktPublishing's "Inkscape 0.48 Illustrator's Cookbook". Mihaela, aka prkos, is ready to become reinvested in the project, after having drifted away to work on other things for awhile. She has some good ideas for outreach and bringing in more diversity, and I think some ideas related to marketing, which she will have to explain, because I don't understand that kind of thing. I don't know if she wants to help with bug management again, as before, but maybe after she catches up to the version 0.92 era. And she said she wouldn't be opposed to working on a sequel to the Packt project. Ooohh! Mihaela, I forgot to mention this privately. Recently within the project, there has been some drive to create an open manual, which would be editable by the community. And we also want to make it more of a step by step manual, and more focussed to beginners. And this is as opposed to our current manual, which is copyrighted (can only be edited by the author), presently out of date, and a little more theoretical, and helpful for advanced users. It's a great manual, which has served the project well. But there have been a lot of complaints from beginners about a lack of documentation at their level. So we don't want to get rid of Tav's manual, but just have another manual available. The current state of those discussions is to use a project which was started by a French team (aaii, why can't I remember to save that link?!). It's another FLOSS manual. We're waiting for it to be translated to English. And once it is, we hope to be able to use it as a base to build the new open manual from. Maybe you might like to help with that? Also, some of her ideas will help us with the forum project too! And I'll be letting the committee know about that privately. So, welcome back Mihaela! As you remember the developers' mantra - code first, discuss later - please feel free to jump back in with both feet :-) All best, brynn ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel Hi :) Here is the editable book on FLOSS manuals: https://fr.flossmanuals.net/start-with-inkscape/introduction/ Feel free to contribute, making an account and modify the content of this book, which I have in French paper version. (yep, it maybe explains my "stronk english ability" ;) ) Have a good day!

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"The next release" page: Update required
by Maren Hachmann 12 Oct '16

12 Oct '16

Hi everyone, I only just noticed that Bryce had appended a new overview of the release process to his email to the dev mailing list about looking for volunteers, and that it looks quite different from the list we have on the website. Would anyone have the time to update the English page (https://inkscape.org/en/develop/next-release/) and tell translators about the change? This is Bryce's new list (I think we can leave 6. out, and don't need to specifically have the sub-item 'string freeze'): """""""""" # Period Tasks -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- √1. Open development. √ Implement new build system √ Begin switching packaging to use new build system 2. Chill. √ Development focuses on wrapping up √ Post inkscape-0.92-pre0.tar.gz √ Disable features that aren't finished √ Identify 'make distcheck' issues √ Identify remaining writing needed for Release Notes. √ Identify any release blocker bugs [scislac] √ Recruit Release Wardens for Hard Freeze 3. Frost. √ Only production-ready code committed to Mainline Finalize any major changes to platform packaging Inkscape must pass 'make distcheck' √ Finalize Release Notes except Known Issues Start an About Screen contest √ Post additional inkscape-0.92-pre*.tar.gz releases Packagers test creating pkgs of the -pre* releases 4. Freeze. √ Stable Branch is forked from Mainline √ Regular development resumes on Mainline. Only Release Wardens can commit to Stable Branch √ Cherrypick bug fixes from Mainline to Stable √ Complete any late work under advisement of Wardens Focus on release-critical bug fixing. String Freeze √ No further string changes allowed on Stable Branch. √ Translators work on translations. √ Finalize all extensions √ Finalize codebase translations Finalize about screen Finalize Known Issues section of Release Notes Finalize packaging scripts Post additional inkscape-0.92-pre*.tar.gz releases 5. Release. Post inkscape-0.92.tar.gz to website launchpad project page Post Windows build, MSI or EXE installer to website Post MacOSX build, dmg installer to website Make Debian build available in stable ppa or distribution archive Make Fedora build available in stable yum repo or distribution archive Post official announcements Plan 0.92.1+ release(s), if needed 6. Open development. """"""""""" If nobody else does, I can do it Tuesday night (UTC). Regards, Maren

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how about some marketing and outreach?
by Brynn 10 Oct '16

10 Oct '16

Hi Friends, I've recently been contacted by a long time Inkscape user and former active moderator on InkscapeForum.com. (Technically she still is a moderator, but not active for some years.) And I think she also used to help with bug management and testing. And many of you may recognize her as the co-author of PacktPublishing's "Inkscape 0.48 Illustrator's Cookbook". Mihaela, aka prkos, is ready to become reinvested in the project, after having drifted away to work on other things for awhile. She has some good ideas for outreach and bringing in more diversity, and I think some ideas related to marketing, which she will have to explain, because I don't understand that kind of thing. I don't know if she wants to help with bug management again, as before, but maybe after she catches up to the version 0.92 era. And she said she wouldn't be opposed to working on a sequel to the Packt project. Ooohh! Mihaela, I forgot to mention this privately. Recently within the project, there has been some drive to create an open manual, which would be editable by the community. And we also want to make it more of a step by step manual, and more focussed to beginners. And this is as opposed to our current manual, which is copyrighted (can only be edited by the author), presently out of date, and a little more theoretical, and helpful for advanced users. It's a great manual, which has served the project well. But there have been a lot of complaints from beginners about a lack of documentation at their level. So we don't want to get rid of Tav's manual, but just have another manual available. The current state of those discussions is to use a project which was started by a French team (aaii, why can't I remember to save that link?!). It's another FLOSS manual. We're waiting for it to be translated to English. And once it is, we hope to be able to use it as a base to build the new open manual from. Maybe you might like to help with that? Also, some of her ideas will help us with the forum project too! And I'll be letting the committee know about that privately. So, welcome back Mihaela! As you remember the developers' mantra - code first, discuss later - please feel free to jump back in with both feet :-) All best, brynn

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Re: [Inkscape-docs] Tutorial 4 done
by Brynn 05 Sep '16

05 Sep '16

Hi Roy, I apologize that I haven't replied to your messages about your tutorials, before now. I did bookmark your tutorials, and have it on my to-do list, to read them. I keep a kind of centralized list of links to all the best Inkscape tutorials that I know about, on my website, Inkscape Community (http://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php). Roughly twice yearly I update the page, adding any new tutorials I find, and removing ones that have gone missing. So once I have a chance to read yours, I'll add them on. Eventually I hope to contact all the authors, and suggest that they could upload their tutorials to the gallery on the Inkscape website, using the Tutorial category. But that will probably be some months away, since I have some other projects working right now. Anyway, you would be more than welcome to register on the website (if you haven't already) and either post your tutorials there, or make a link to them. Unfortunately, the way this website feature is made, there is no way to have working links in the tutorials, because the tutorials have to be in the form of a raster image. They *could* be SVG (except that there's a slight display problem, if you view with IE, which is a problem with IE, as far as I understand). There has been some talk of having tutorials in the form of html, in addition to those in the form of images, but anything more than the idea is not certain at this time. Unfortunately in projects like Inkscape, just like in life, there are occasionally miscommunications, or misunderstandings, or even personality conflicts. Sometimes people simply lose their patience. All of these things are part of being human :-) In any case both of the parties involved have taken the appropriate action, by notifying the board, and ceasing communication until the problem can be mediated (assuming they both desire for it to be mediated). Hopefully it will just be a bump in the road for them, and they can work things out, and continue to contribute to the Inkscape project. :-) (I think the best thing we can do, is to give them the space to work it out, while we continue with our own projects.) Well anyway, I'm looking forward to reading your tutorials. I had a quick glance, but they deserve more time. Thanks for providing them for the community! All best, brynn -------------------------------------------------- From: "Sylvain Chiron" <chironsylvain@...102...> Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 9:51 AM To: <bandura1@...114...> Cc: "Brynn" <brynn@...78...> Subject: Re: Tutorial 4 done > Hi Roy, > Le 05/09/2016 à 17:09, bandura1@...114... a écrit : >> I just want to let you know that >> Tutorial 4 in my series of tutorials is up on Github. Copyright is put >> on, W3C Validator is happy, and so am I. > > Yes, I saw your message to inkscape-docs. It's nice to see that you have > fun with the program and are eager to provide some resource in return. > >> I'll be taking a break from >> writing for a couple of weeks before I start again. > > Well, I'm not personally interested in your tutorials (unless I want to > improve with Inkscape myself, but I don't have such needs currently). If > you want them to be used by the community, I suggest you talk with some > ‘community managers’ of the project, e.g. Brynn (here cc'ed) as she owns > inkscapecommunity.com and interacts with many people around the project. > Currently, my role within the project is to translate into French what > has to be translated, and to improve what I can, remove glitches, make > documentation better — I'm not in contact with many people in the > project (actually, I often enjoy loneliness — ;) —). > Maybe Brynn will say you should open a thread in her forum to lead > people to it and get feedback. > >> I'm dismayed to learn >> about the bump in the road with Ugajin. I guess accidents happen. I >> hope >> things can be fixed. > > Yes… It seems that this guy wrote the page without much help, and didn't > like the way the webmaster talked to him after that. I don't have more > information; since his message, I've wondered what I should do! I didn't > get any explanation from Martin or anybody. > I hope we'll benefit of this ‘social’ experience. I mainly talk with > Maren and Martin, I already had my opinion about the too-many-thanks I > felt from the first and the kind of ‘unshaved hacker’ Martin could be. > My behavior within the community is closer than Maren's one, I think. > > Regards, > -- > Sylvain

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Chapter 4 in the Inkscape Tutorial is done
by unknown＠example.com 05 Sep '16

05 Sep '16

Hi Everybody, I have just finished putting Chapter 4 of my tutorial together. It is now online at roy-torley.github.io Copyright notice is in place, W3C validation is good, enjoy in good health. Best wishes to all, Roy Torley

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full size image/outside link
by Brynn 04 Sep '16

04 Sep '16

Hi Friends, I was just looking at a new exension that's been uploaded to the website: https://inkscape.org/en/~pacogarcia/%E2%98%85inkscape-to-povray-exporter How did he make the outside link, when you click on the image? All the other extensions that I've looked at, when you click on the image, either you're offered the file (usually zip file) to be downloaded or you see the full size image. I mean, I realize that the link goes to his site, where the file can be downloaded. I just can't figure out how he made that link. Nothing urgent. Just curious :-) Thanks, brynn

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