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website issue
by brynn 17 Apr '17

17 Apr '17

Something weird is happening with the website. I'm not quite sure how to explain it. Images are missing (except in the gallery) and all links, even text links, are blue spheres. Just in case you didn't notice yet. I waited half an hour, to make sure it wasn't a momentary glitch. All best, brynn

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testing of link upload feature
by brynn 30 Mar '17

30 Mar '17

Hi Friends, I've just tested the new link upload feature. Here's the test: https://inkscape.org/en/~brynn/%E2%98%85getting-cmyk-color-from-inkscape-to… Everything seems to be working ok. Except I didn't know what to do with the license. How will someone who uploads someone else's tutorial (or other resource) know about its license? I suppose any written work has a copyright, by the definition of copyright (as far as I understand it). And since I was uploading (a link to) someone else's tutorial, I thought they should have the credit. So I selected full copyright. But the way it looks is sort of like I'm the copyright holder. Also I wonder if Public Domain, or any other license except for full copyright, should even be available. Or does the fact that a link is being uploaded make license completely irrelevant? (Can a link have a license?) There is a section in the regular resource upload for Permission (own the work, permission, and no permission), which is missing for the link upload. And I wonder if it should be available. Then I could use "no permission", and that might at least help to indicate who's holding the copyright. Another issue is the author of the tutorial (or other resource). There's no place to indicate that. I wrote it into the description, but not everyone who uploads a link will do that. I wonder if it needs to have its own field, like the title -- especially since we're uploading something written by someone else (a link to it, I mean). That would go even further to make clear about the license. (If a link can have a license.) Just some thoughts. :-) And thanks for the new feature!! All best, brynn

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revisiting vetting of tutorials (on the website)
by brynn 28 Mar '17

28 Mar '17

Hi Friends, Trying to make brief as possible. (Martin, specific question for you in this.) (But comments welcome from anyone.) Some few months ago, there was a request on this list to update the Video Tutorials page (https://inkscape.org/en/learn/videos/). After some discussion, it was decided it would be better to put the effort into getting better tutorials uploaded into the Tutorials section of the gallery (https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/?order=-edited). At that time, I mentioned my plan to re-contact all the tutorial authors, that I've already contacted once before, for the tutorials I have already curated (or vetted) on this page https://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php, inform them, if they aren't already aware of the new website, and including instructions to upload their tutorials, if they are interested. This bug report covers several related ideas: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape-web/+bug/1603669 (Someone else is going through a similar process for Inkscape extensions.) But I can't start on it, at least until the forum situation is settled. So I was thinking, if there would be some way to allow anyone to vet tutorials, which either are already uploaded, or which they want to upload; then anyone who wants to could get started already. I wrote some brief guidelines, which I thought to upload to both tutorial pages (text and video) (or maybe combine both pages into just the vetting guidelines page). However, in some discussion with Maren about moving forward with the plan, we've realized that this can't be done without some somewhat significant changes to the website. (For the record, when I say "we" it doesn't mean both of us are in favor of doing this. She actually isn't in favor of it, but is still helping figure out if it could be done, and how.) We can't have a tag such as "vetted" or "approved" for tutorials, because anyone, just anyone, could add such a tag, whether they actually have read or viewed or worked through the tutorial or not. Theoretically, even spammers could use it. Theoretically, if there's a way to disallow tags, maybe certain words should be disallowed, like "approved" for example. So there needs to be a way to either make a particular tag/filter ("vetted" or "approved" or other) available only for certain people, or only make it available for a certain user group. In discussions with Maren (who knows more about the inner workings of the website than I do), there doesn't seem to be any way to make any certain tags available (or not available) for only certain people to use. But there does seem to be some functionality, which has been planned for, but not actually functioning yet, to allow for resource uploads to be approved. Maren says that we have 2 database fields, called 'checked_by' (person) and 'checked_sig' (person's signature), which are specifically created for approving uploads. She suggests making a bug/wishlist report to request these fields be defined (and made functional). I would suggest attaching them to the Inkscape User account (or some other account which can be used for this). And then we would just give people who are interested in vetting tutorials (or other resources), access to that account. So question for Martin. Before I make the bug report, is there some reason why it would be a waste of time for tutorials? Could this be done before the forum issue is settled? Because if not, by then I'll be able to start on the vetting process that I've already been planning (see link to bug report above). But if it could be done before then, then other people could start vetting tutorials that I might not have even seen yet. (I've been putting off my twice yearly update of that page, while working on the new forum issue. So certainly there are plenty I haven't seen yet.) Or is there some other reason why this plan would not work? Or should something else be included in the report (in case I'm not understanding something correctly? Thanks for any comments, brynn

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Chapter 6 of the tutorial is uploaded
by unknown＠example.com 20 Feb '17

20 Feb '17

Hello Everybody, I just finished putting Chapter 6 of my Inkscape tutorial together and uploaded it. It focuses on working with layers. The html looks good, according to the W3C validator, so I guess I'm not totally dim, just getting there. It's located through: https://roy-torley.github.io Enjoy, Roy

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news editing
by brynn 19 Feb '17

19 Feb '17

Hi Martin and/or Maren, I'm trying to make a quick News item using Bryce's 0.92.1 announcement. I'm trying to make "Regression Fixes" into h4 heading. I highlight those 2 words, and choose h4 heading from the Paragraph Format dropdown menu. But it keeps changing the entire page to h4! Is there something new about the editor that I haven't learned about yet? Maybe it has something to do with having been copied from email, and pasted directly into the editor? Maybe I need to type it in fresh? At least I already know I have to re-do the links, so they use the proper codes. Well, I'll be limping along, by changing the html directly, until I hear from one of you (it's getting late for family households). Thanks, brynn

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504 and 502 gateway errors
by brynn 25 Jan '17

25 Jan '17

Hi Friends, I know there are issues with the website not having enough space lately. But just to document. Or maybe this wasn't related to that? I was trying to get to: https://inkscape.org/en/contribute/contributors/ All best, brynn

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server errors in gallery
by brynn 20 Jan '17

20 Jan '17

Hi Friends, Martin, I'm getting server errors when I try to open resources in the gallery that I've never opened before. If I've opened them before, they open as normal. I want to keep testing and try to gather info for you, but the error message says that it's generating an email. So I don't want to flood you. But let me know if I can help. All best, brynn

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vetting tutorials for the website
by brynn 18 Jan '17

18 Jan '17

Hi Friends, I've updated the bug report about this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape-web/+bug/1603669 Here's a first draft of the guidelines. I'm sure it can be more concise, if necessary. But I'm still not sure where would be the best place to put it. The black space on the gallery page? A separate page, with a link on the upload form? Comments and/or edits welcome! https://inkscapecommunity.com/jd/vet-tut.odt (it's a text file) You'll notice the first guideline is really a question whether the guidelines should include instructions for uploading. I guess once Martin finishes the new functionality for uploading a link, it won't be necessary. But if we put this into action on the website before that, people will probably need instructions. Well, at least I will. I tried to do it the other day, but couldn't figure it out. Another thing I'm not sure about. When Martin said there would be 2 big categories, vetted and not vetted, I wasn't clear if that is going to be 2 different galley pages? Or would it be filters (like the Inkscape version, platform, and extension type, on the Extension page https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=extension/?order=-edited) Thanks, brynn

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Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
by brynn 15 Jan '17

15 Jan '17

I'm so confused! We were talking about editing the Video Tutorials page. But now we are putting them in the gallery? -----Original Message----- From: Vardenis Pavardenis Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:47 PM To: brynn Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/upload/ Resource Name, Descriptin, External Link - In here YouTube Link as I understand. 03.01.2017, 23:45, "brynn" <brynn@...78...>: I don't understand what this means: - He was rather asking to post a link as a resource. Thanks -----Original Message----- From: Maren Hachmann Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:32 PM To: inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website Am 03.01.2017 um 22:00 schrieb brynn: Hi Vardenis, I think I understand what you mean. You're thinking it would be better not to mix up video and text tutorials, in the gallery? Well, they already are mixed up in the gallery (https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/). However, you can choose to look at only text or only videos. See on the right column, where it says "textual" and "video", black buttons with white text? Although I'm not sure if that works, if the author did not put such a tag when they uploaded?? Yeah, if you click on video, it's blank, as if there were no videos. Is it possible to manually add those tags, to the video tutorials? - Yes, they can be tagged just like any other item in the gallery. The tags on the right are the 'official' ones, just like it works for the extensions. (I'm addressing this reply to the list, since I have this question.) But Martin is talking about something else, I think. He's asking to have the videos embedded on the Video Tutorials page. - He was rather asking to post a link as a resource. The embedding will work automatically. I haven't ever done that before, or seen it. So I'm not sure what it will look like. I'll try an example, using one of the heathenex vids, because I know they have a free license. Then we can both see what it's going to look like. I'll do it in just a few minutes. But I still wonder about taking just any YT video and embedding it. Are all YT videos automatically public domain? - Nope, most are 'Standard Youtube Licence'. Regards, Maren Thanks, brynn -----Original Message----- From: Vardenis Pavardenis Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 1:11 PM To: brynn Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website I'm thinking maybe better just add link's to article (Video Tutorials) and don't upload all this videos as resources in gallery, tutorials section (current video tutorials only link's), because in gallery, tutorials is more text based than videos, and I think if I would start uploading videos to tutorials category (https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/), it would become a bit of a mess and "Video Tutorials" category in websites loss of sense. What do you thinks? Sorry for my bad English language, Thanks. 03.01.2017, 21:45, "brynn" <brynn@...78...>: First I should say that I'm not a frequent YT user or video watcher. Is there no copyright issue, to just grab a video and upload it? Thanks, brynn -----Original Message----- From: Martin Owens Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:49 PM To: brynn ; Vardenis Pavardenis Cc: Inkscape-Docs Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website Don't forget to upload each of the videos into the website, if you add the youtube video as the URL link it will embed the video and you can add text and other important information like the license (if there is one). This way videos can be collected onto these tutorial pages using the gallery widgets. Martin, On Mon, 2017-01-02 at 16:02 -0700, brynn wrote: No need to create a page. But if you want to make a list of tutorials, with a link to each one, I'll be glad to add them to that page. That page needs some attention besides current videos, too. I'm not sure how it got to be organized like it is, but I'm sure we could eliminate a lot of bullets. Thanks for your help, brynn -----Original Message----- From: Vardenis Pavardenis Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 12:40 PM To: brynn Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website No, no (I don't have permissions and maybe someone don't agree with me). I'm not editing, I'm only discuss for now about "Video Tutorials" section, and I'm thinking Nick Saporito, Chris Hildenbrand, Sids Art tutorials can be more helpful than now tutorials in Video Tutorial section. I can try (In text editor) create page with format familiar to the current with new video tutorials from above authors and share here. :-) 02.01.2017, 21:26, "brynn" <brynn@...78...>: Hi Vardenis, Yes, Nick Saporito has very quickly compiled a huge amount of Inkscape tutorials! I think that now, they aren't quite as good as when he first started. Goes a little too fast now. And it drives me crazy that he ALWAYS calls the Selection tool, "the arrow tool". Even after I mentioned it, he still keeps saying it. But still, they are a free resource, and I think they are helpful for a LOT of Inkscape users. Chris Hildenbrand's tutorials are mostly text tutorials. I think only a few are videos. Unless recently he's started using videos? But yes, very good! I haven't heard of Sids Art. I'll follow your link and check it out. Yes, those would certainly help to make the Video Tutorials page more current. I didn't understand you though. Did you mean to say that you are going to edit that page? If you want to help with the Inkscape project, and edit that page, we can give you permissions to edit the website. All best, brynn -----Original Message----- From: Vardenis Pavardenis Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 11:55 AM To: brynn Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website Hello, Brynn, Thanks for you website, it is amazing! And really try to help with your website and outdated tutorials, I'm now trying with Video Tutorials section in website, Thanks for you help. ;-) I'm thinking in "Video Tutorials" section tutorials from Nick Saporito (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEQXp_fcqwPcqrzNtWJ1w9w/playlists), he have playlist Inkscape explained(for very beginners), Inkscape Beginner Tutorials, Inkscape Intermediate/Advanced Tutorials, Inkscape Typeface Tutorials, Inkscape Logo tutorials, he explains from very beginning to advanced topics in Inkscape, too Chris Hildenbrand have awesome tutorials( https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVMhFCCmrMisICIoyTIXsKw/playlists ) for game art, Inkscape basics of game art creation, Inkscape seamless patterns, too in channel is tutorials about how to animate. Too Sids Art - Inkscape And Drawing have interesting tutorials (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLI43BLYCGCqrnxqHwDRTni9K3V-Y bkhs). I'm thinking this videos make Video Tutorials section more modern and more interest. What do you thinks about that? Sorry for my bad English language, Thanks. :-) 02.01.2017, 20:41, "brynn" <brynn@...78...>: I have an interest in tutorials of all kinds, and keep a list of what I consider the best or most helpful tutorials (meaning that they don't contain any errors or outdated steps) on my website: https://forum.inkscapecommunity.com /index.php It's probably about 6 months out of date, right now. But I'll make it current pretty soon. I have a plan to bring them all over to the website, eventually, but can't start on it until I finish with other projects first. But I'd be glad to help you, if you wanted or needed it. One thing which could probably be done right away, is to put a link on that page, to this page https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/. They aren't all video tutorials, but those that are, are certainly more current. Maybe I'll add a note on that page, with the link, and also asking for volunteers. (I wonder if Victor would be interested, too? I know he's looking to help out.) All best, brynn -----Original Message----- From: Martin Owens Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 10:01 AM To: Vardenis Pavardenis ; inkscape-docs Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website On Mon, 2017-01-02 at 18:30 +0200, Vardenis Pavardenis wrote: Hello, "Video Tutorials" section in website is very, very old. Videos in this section is about from 2007 years. I don't say these tutorials is bad, but maybe is better to replace these tutorials to newer (video quality low, etc.) or redesign this section in website (Because is hard to share all new tutorial's, and I'm think most people searching in YouTube or something like Vimeo) ? In YouTube and Vimeo there are many who create Inkscape video tutorials. I believe the job of Video Tutorial curator is available if you'd like to have a go. The first thing to do is to think about what's out there, maybe make a list of all the really great stuff, then think about how you'd put it together on a website. Sound like fun? 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Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-translator] Website / Wiki: Release translations
by Maren Hachmann 04 Jan '17

04 Jan '17

Hi everyone (including docs list website editors), okay, so the release is out :) What's problematic currently because of all the people visiting the website is the website performance. I've found that editing doesn't work for me, and publishing trials end up in server nirvana. I'll wait with making any further changes until it's calmer, maybe at night, when website traffic is low (I've gotten a couple of new shield images from Jabier). Or, if that doesn't suffice, then maybe a couple of days later. Next time, we should probably ask for a couple of additional days, so we have some time to prepare the website properly before the visitors DDOS the site ;-) Kind Regards, Maren Am 04.01.2017 um 03:01 schrieb Maren Hachmann: > Dear website and Wiki translators, > > for the pending release of Inkscape 0.92, a couple of things have been > updated, some of which are publicly accessible already, and some will be > shortly. > > We will need your help spreading the news for you language community :) > > When the new version is released (see inkscape-announce mailing list), > it would be great if you could contact your language's software / design > / open source communities' news outlets with some info about Inkscape > 0.92. The info you need to do so is available here: > > http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/AnnouncePlanning092#Informal_Announ… > > (if you're contacting German or French news sites, note that there are > translations of the release notes available for linking) > > These are the pages that could use translation help, if you can do so: > > ===================== > > Website changes (not public yet, please take care to not accidentally > publish anything before the release announcement was made): > > * https://inkscape.org/en/download/ - release notes link, version number > > * https://inkscape.org/en/download/linux/ - several changes, incl. above > > * https://inkscape.org/en/download/windows/ - files exchanged, version > number, release notes link > > * https://inkscape.org/en/download/mac-os/ - changed top paragraph, > including heading (Latest *available* version) > > * https://inkscape.org/en/download/source/ - version number, release > notes link, download link > > * https://inkscape.org/en/download/development-versions/ - moved > pre-release versions down > > * https://inkscape.org/en/ - bumped the version number in the shield > > * https://inkscape.org/en/learn/books/ - updated keyboard reference link > > * News Article (not published yet, thus no link) - it's almost the same > as the announcement, plus a lot of formatting. > > > ============= > > Wiki: > > * Release notes, pending change: will soon have a date. > http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Release_notes/0.92 > > * Announcement texts are finished and can be used to spread the news: > > http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/AnnouncePlanning092#Informal_Announ… > > Thank you very much for all your help, > Kind Regards, > Maren > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-translator mailing list > Inkscape-translator(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-translator >

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