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Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Any chance we can make some docs material? (targeting the moon)
by Martin Owens 28 Apr '17

28 Apr '17

On Fri, 2017-04-28 at 12:39 +0100, C R wrote: > I'd love to quit my job and just do docs. :) Unfortunately, that's > what it would probably take to get docs going to the extent we'd > like. > It's been discussed before, but never gone anywhere because of lack > of time/hands involved. > > Yes, we should use Scribus to do it. In fact, it should probably be a > github project to attract contributors. This way we can patch what > needs to be patched when stuff changes in subsequent releases. Sounds like you have a solid step one Chris. Here's the inkscape-docs group on gitlab, EVERYONE should join, there should be a button to join: https://gitlab.com/inkscape-docs And here's the new book/manual/docs project where files can be put: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/manuals I recommend using the wiki attached to the project to plan the adventure slowly. Add a bit at a time and don't rush to have something "complete" but have something small produced. Best Regards, Martin Owens

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Any chance we can make some docs material? (targeting the moon)
by Victor Westmann 28 Apr '17

28 Apr '17

Hi team, I was not sure as where I was supposed to open this discussion (or question) of mine. I was just wondering... I do know that it takes a lot of time, and money, and then more time, and probably a lot of revisions... but do you guys think we can try to aim making something similar to this? https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/designer/workbook/ This is a hard copy, printed, material that Affinity Designer, from the Serif company, sell. I confess I don't have a copy of this material (yet) as it seems it only exists, officially, in the printed version... but I saw some samples and was really inspired and eager to check if we could do something on our own more or less of the same kind. We could try to use the Scribus to achieve such results.. and some open fonts (from Google and Adobe) and try to assemble 4 - 6 different big learning areas inside this Inkscape Activity Book. They could be: 1. Creating isometric graphics, (there is a super sweet plugin that works wonderfully in Inkscape 0.91.2) 2. Vectorizing simple photos, 3. creating logos (or recreating famous ones (not sure this is allowed)), there are multiple AMAZING examples of this on Nick Saporito Youtube channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEQXp_fcqwPcqrzNtWJ1w9w) 4. UX-UI design to create webpage (or mobile apps) mockups. I know it is a lot of work. But we could try doing a smaller and simpler version of it to see how it goes. It would help us gather more money to the Inkscape project and follow, more or less, the model of Krita (they have a paid support option and some books to sell as well) and Blender (they have a store with multiple long and detailed tutorials on how to do things in videos (DVDs)). Just wondering... I know this might be asking too much... but I plan to be involved in this. Even if we have time for only 1 or 2 modules. It would be amazing to craft such material and spread it to the community (paid or free). --Victor Westmann

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website issue
by brynn 17 Apr '17

17 Apr '17

Something weird is happening with the website. I'm not quite sure how to explain it. Images are missing (except in the gallery) and all links, even text links, are blue spheres. Just in case you didn't notice yet. I waited half an hour, to make sure it wasn't a momentary glitch. All best, brynn

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testing of link upload feature
by brynn 30 Mar '17

30 Mar '17

Hi Friends, I've just tested the new link upload feature. Here's the test: https://inkscape.org/en/~brynn/%E2%98%85getting-cmyk-color-from-inkscape-to… Everything seems to be working ok. Except I didn't know what to do with the license. How will someone who uploads someone else's tutorial (or other resource) know about its license? I suppose any written work has a copyright, by the definition of copyright (as far as I understand it). And since I was uploading (a link to) someone else's tutorial, I thought they should have the credit. So I selected full copyright. But the way it looks is sort of like I'm the copyright holder. Also I wonder if Public Domain, or any other license except for full copyright, should even be available. Or does the fact that a link is being uploaded make license completely irrelevant? (Can a link have a license?) There is a section in the regular resource upload for Permission (own the work, permission, and no permission), which is missing for the link upload. And I wonder if it should be available. Then I could use "no permission", and that might at least help to indicate who's holding the copyright. Another issue is the author of the tutorial (or other resource). There's no place to indicate that. I wrote it into the description, but not everyone who uploads a link will do that. I wonder if it needs to have its own field, like the title -- especially since we're uploading something written by someone else (a link to it, I mean). That would go even further to make clear about the license. (If a link can have a license.) Just some thoughts. :-) And thanks for the new feature!! All best, brynn

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revisiting vetting of tutorials (on the website)
by brynn 28 Mar '17

28 Mar '17

Hi Friends, Trying to make brief as possible. (Martin, specific question for you in this.) (But comments welcome from anyone.) Some few months ago, there was a request on this list to update the Video Tutorials page (https://inkscape.org/en/learn/videos/). After some discussion, it was decided it would be better to put the effort into getting better tutorials uploaded into the Tutorials section of the gallery (https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/?order=-edited). At that time, I mentioned my plan to re-contact all the tutorial authors, that I've already contacted once before, for the tutorials I have already curated (or vetted) on this page https://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php, inform them, if they aren't already aware of the new website, and including instructions to upload their tutorials, if they are interested. This bug report covers several related ideas: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape-web/+bug/1603669 (Someone else is going through a similar process for Inkscape extensions.) But I can't start on it, at least until the forum situation is settled. So I was thinking, if there would be some way to allow anyone to vet tutorials, which either are already uploaded, or which they want to upload; then anyone who wants to could get started already. I wrote some brief guidelines, which I thought to upload to both tutorial pages (text and video) (or maybe combine both pages into just the vetting guidelines page). However, in some discussion with Maren about moving forward with the plan, we've realized that this can't be done without some somewhat significant changes to the website. (For the record, when I say "we" it doesn't mean both of us are in favor of doing this. She actually isn't in favor of it, but is still helping figure out if it could be done, and how.) We can't have a tag such as "vetted" or "approved" for tutorials, because anyone, just anyone, could add such a tag, whether they actually have read or viewed or worked through the tutorial or not. Theoretically, even spammers could use it. Theoretically, if there's a way to disallow tags, maybe certain words should be disallowed, like "approved" for example. So there needs to be a way to either make a particular tag/filter ("vetted" or "approved" or other) available only for certain people, or only make it available for a certain user group. In discussions with Maren (who knows more about the inner workings of the website than I do), there doesn't seem to be any way to make any certain tags available (or not available) for only certain people to use. But there does seem to be some functionality, which has been planned for, but not actually functioning yet, to allow for resource uploads to be approved. Maren says that we have 2 database fields, called 'checked_by' (person) and 'checked_sig' (person's signature), which are specifically created for approving uploads. She suggests making a bug/wishlist report to request these fields be defined (and made functional). I would suggest attaching them to the Inkscape User account (or some other account which can be used for this). And then we would just give people who are interested in vetting tutorials (or other resources), access to that account. So question for Martin. Before I make the bug report, is there some reason why it would be a waste of time for tutorials? Could this be done before the forum issue is settled? Because if not, by then I'll be able to start on the vetting process that I've already been planning (see link to bug report above). But if it could be done before then, then other people could start vetting tutorials that I might not have even seen yet. (I've been putting off my twice yearly update of that page, while working on the new forum issue. So certainly there are plenty I haven't seen yet.) Or is there some other reason why this plan would not work? Or should something else be included in the report (in case I'm not understanding something correctly? Thanks for any comments, brynn

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Chapter 6 of the tutorial is uploaded
by unknown＠example.com 20 Feb '17

20 Feb '17

Hello Everybody, I just finished putting Chapter 6 of my Inkscape tutorial together and uploaded it. It focuses on working with layers. The html looks good, according to the W3C validator, so I guess I'm not totally dim, just getting there. It's located through: https://roy-torley.github.io Enjoy, Roy

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news editing
by brynn 19 Feb '17

19 Feb '17

Hi Martin and/or Maren, I'm trying to make a quick News item using Bryce's 0.92.1 announcement. I'm trying to make "Regression Fixes" into h4 heading. I highlight those 2 words, and choose h4 heading from the Paragraph Format dropdown menu. But it keeps changing the entire page to h4! Is there something new about the editor that I haven't learned about yet? Maybe it has something to do with having been copied from email, and pasted directly into the editor? Maybe I need to type it in fresh? At least I already know I have to re-do the links, so they use the proper codes. Well, I'll be limping along, by changing the html directly, until I hear from one of you (it's getting late for family households). Thanks, brynn

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504 and 502 gateway errors
by brynn 25 Jan '17

25 Jan '17

Hi Friends, I know there are issues with the website not having enough space lately. But just to document. Or maybe this wasn't related to that? I was trying to get to: https://inkscape.org/en/contribute/contributors/ All best, brynn

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server errors in gallery
by brynn 20 Jan '17

20 Jan '17

Hi Friends, Martin, I'm getting server errors when I try to open resources in the gallery that I've never opened before. If I've opened them before, they open as normal. I want to keep testing and try to gather info for you, but the error message says that it's generating an email. So I don't want to flood you. But let me know if I can help. All best, brynn

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vetting tutorials for the website
by brynn 18 Jan '17

18 Jan '17

Hi Friends, I've updated the bug report about this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape-web/+bug/1603669 Here's a first draft of the guidelines. I'm sure it can be more concise, if necessary. But I'm still not sure where would be the best place to put it. The black space on the gallery page? A separate page, with a link on the upload form? Comments and/or edits welcome! https://inkscapecommunity.com/jd/vet-tut.odt (it's a text file) You'll notice the first guideline is really a question whether the guidelines should include instructions for uploading. I guess once Martin finishes the new functionality for uploading a link, it won't be necessary. But if we put this into action on the website before that, people will probably need instructions. Well, at least I will. I tried to do it the other day, but couldn't figure it out. Another thing I'm not sure about. When Martin said there would be 2 big categories, vetted and not vetted, I wasn't clear if that is going to be 2 different galley pages? Or would it be filters (like the Inkscape version, platform, and extension type, on the Extension page https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=extension/?order=-edited) Thanks, brynn

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