September 2005 - Inkscape Devel

Hard Freeze Lifted: insufficient stability
by Peter Moulder 30 Sep '05

30 Sep '05

Existing show-stoppers will take sufficient amount of time, and will involve sufficiently non-trivial bug fixes, that it is more productive to lift the hard freeze for the moment. However, the feature freeze remains. Currently, our best plan for making a release soon involves backing out (or at least disabling) the following changes: - SPDesktop C++ification. This transformation was too rushed; has introduced at least two show-stoppers. Clean-up changes are good, but should be done cautiously, e.g. by breaking into small changes that can each be verified with reasonable confidence. The SPDesktop change has demonstrated itself not to be safe, so we'll back it out. - Connectors. Michael is now back from overseas and can work on this, but its current state (with crashes) isn't releasable. - menus.xml. Introduces menu localization problem. It has been useful in allowing ppl to play with the menu layout, but there's no particular reason for the functionality to be in the released stable version: it is currently for experimenters rather than customizers, as the file format still doesn't handle when menu items get added or removed from the default menu layout (e.g. new or changed functionality). Most remaining bugs are either not regressions (so don't present a reason not to replace 0.42.2); or are platform-specific (so I can't test whether they're regressions or not, and we could consider updating inkscape on other platforms in any case); or have a priority number lower than about 7 so I've assumed they aren't show-stoppers. (I forget whether I've looked at all priority-7 bugs or not.) pjrm.

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Webform/Contact
by Wolfram Quester 30 Sep '05

30 Sep '05

Hi, I'm happy about the new webform, it seems to become quite accepted. I wonder however if people will perceive the link if the topic moves out of the first news. Wouldn't it be better to add a "Contact" item in the menu in the Developer section? Especially now as the mails are directed to the developer's ML? With best wishes, Wolfi

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WEBFORM submission form with subject
by Caliga 30 Sep '05

30 Sep '05

Message from Inkscape submission form Please note, that the submitter may not read this list. CC your answer to the submitter name: Caliga email: inkscape@...985... submitted the following: there you are. (if this will work ;) BTW, how can a set of colors be copyrighted? i know pantore is a registered trademark, but there\'s nothing special in a set of colors. also, cliparts may contain all of the pantone colors without a problem. why shouldn\'t a palette? maybe you should not name it pantone. but if i got that right, gimp also uses it!?

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] FOP (SVG2PDF)
by Bob Jamison 30 Sep '05

30 Sep '05

Tom Epperly wrote: > > What does this mean? > > [epperly@...1015... fop-0.20.5]$ ./fop.sh master.fo -pdf output.pdf > [INFO] Using org.apache.xerces.parsers.SAXParser as SAX2 Parser > [INFO] FOP 0.20.5 > [INFO] Using org.apache.xerces.parsers.SAXParser as SAX2 Parser > [INFO] building formatting object tree > [INFO] setting up fonts > [INFO] [1] > [ERROR] Could not load external SVG: The current document is unable to > create an element of the requested type (namespace: > http://www.w3.org/2000/svg, name: flowRoot). > [ERROR] Error while creating area : No ImageReader for this type of > image (file:BabelShowcase.svg) > [INFO] Parsing of document complete, stopping renderer > [epperly@...1015... fop-0.20.5]$ > I would suggest "flattening" a copy of the svg document by converting the difficult parts such as text, to Paths, then saving as "plain svg". See if that works. Isn't <flowRoot> new to SVG 1.2? (still a draft, not a spec yet). If so, there are likely few renderers that support it. Bob

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] WEBFORM
by Cory Sytsma 30 Sep '05

30 Sep '05

I've attached the file, so you guys can do with it what you'd like. If attachments don't make it through the listserv, let me know, and I can paste the contents into an email I did put a request into Pantone, asking about including a color swatch with Inkscape, in the same way that Illustrator and others have Pantone palettes. We'll see what they say. -Cory -----Original Message----- From: Ralf Stephan [mailto:ralf@...748...] Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 12:56 AM To: Cory Sytsma Cc: Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] WEBFORM Nicu: > Bryce Harrington wrote: > >Thanks, although to our knowledge the Pantone colors are not > >legally > >redistributable, so I don't think we can include them in Inkscape. > >You > >might want to doublecheck this fact though, just in case... > > but is not possible to use the swatch is some way, like change the > name of individual colors and the name of the set and use it like > that? maybe change the order of colors? does not suffice because there is now something like a copyright on collections. this was introduced to protect the database industry, and forced on the int'l community. OTOH, I fail to see any problems with, say 75% of the colors, without any name. ralf

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WEBFORM
by thomas 30 Sep '05

30 Sep '05

Please note, that the submitter may not read this list name: thomas email: t.seeger@...123... submitted the following: Ich mÃ¶chte eine E-Mail an die Progammierer senden aber ich finde die E-Mail Adresse nicht. I would like to send a E-Mail to the program creator but I find not the E-Mail address. Mit freundlichen GrÃ¼Ãen with best greet Thomas

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LJ's Readers' Choice Awards: 2nd Place
by unknown＠example.com 30 Sep '05

30 Sep '05

On page 84 of the November 2005 Linux Journal Inkscape has been awarded second place in the Favorite Graphics Program category. Congratulation guys! Aaron Spike

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Improve Inkscape Terminology
by Daniel Stiefelmaier 29 Sep '05

29 Sep '05

Hi! We had some discussions on how to translate some expressions to german. Colin felt that we can only use "better fitting" terms if the english ones are also adapted... i think, terms should be self-explanatory, if possible. live shape for example: if you translate that to german and back you might get lifeform ;) well, i know Nortons live update also doesn't improve health, but anyway, a direct translation is impossible So, here are some suggestion of me: live shape -> dynamic shape (because it is similar to dynamic offset) dynamic offset -> dynamic object/form/shape well, maybe live shapes and dynamic offsets should not have the same name, but still they act similar. but "object with dynamic outline" is a bit cumbersome. linked offset this is hard. i'd name it "linked dynamic object" or "controlled dynamic objekt" even more "dynamic object (controlled)" because it is just the same than the parent object, plus it can be controlled by the parent object. maybe the objects name could be "dynamic object (controlled)" and the menu entry "create controlled dynamic object" or "derive controlled dynamic object" also this menu entry should only be available if a dynamic object is selected, but this may be a different topic ;) inset/outset (this is more a german problem, we just couln't find an appropriate translation) also not so simple, as "shrink" / "expand" (current german translation, there is no in/outset in german) do not really tell, that this is not a resize. Is that correct, that this scales orthogonal to the normal? how could this be expressed? a few days ago we voted for "aussenkontur/innenkontur", meaning sth. like "outer/inner contour" but now i think this is wrong, as is does not create a new outline, but scale the original object. hm... new ideas: path -> translate outwards ("nach außen versetzen" oder "nach außen setzen") path -> translate inwards ("nach innen versetzen" oder "nach innen setzen") path -> expand ("expandieren" oder "nach außen erweitern") path -> collapse ( ??? oder "nach innen ???) well... maybe we can just leave that one... colin: i just thought we could return to "schrumpfen" and "ausdehnen" but in fact, not the path is shrinked, but the surrounded area: more slim/slenderize ("schlanker"/"abnehmen") and rise ("zunehmen") another thing is, that inset/outset does not reflect that it is similar to the dynamic offset (or better dynamic object) phew... enough said and done for today... Caliga

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] FOP (SVG2PDF)
by Daniel Stiefelmaier 29 Sep '05

29 Sep '05

>>>Thus creation of previously announced Üver-Convertor (I'm lost for >>>words to express my disagreement with this nietschianish name, >>>actually) is quite a good solution. >>> >>> >>Heh. You're not the first. It started as a working title and sort of >>stuck, but right now it seems to be about 50/50 for and against the >>name (I wonder why that is?) >> >> > >Why? >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nietzsche and >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9Cbermensch > > weehihi :) First i *really* had to think what's about nitzsche and "Über" :) Maybe you should realize that Germans use "über" in more than 99,99% in absolutely different and normal contexts. Maybe the translation of a common folksong will be more pleasant: "Über den Wolken muss die Freiheit wohl grenzenlos sein..." "Over the clouds, i guess freedom is borderless. All fears and sorrows stay hidden beyond, they say. [...]" This song was banned in the former Federal Republic of Germany :) caliga

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] FOP (SVG2PDF)
by Alexandre Prokoudine 29 Sep '05

29 Sep '05

On 9/29/05, Daniel Stiefelmaier <webmaster@...985...> wrote: > weehihi :) > > First i *really* had to think what's about nitzsche and "Über" :) > Maybe you should realize that Germans use "über" in more than 99,99% in > absolutely different and normal contexts. > > Maybe the translation of a common folksong will be more pleasant: > "Über den Wolken muss die Freiheit wohl grenzenlos sein..." > "Over the clouds, i guess freedom is borderless. All fears and sorrows > stay hidden beyond, they say. [...]" > > This song was banned in the former Federal Republic of Germany :) Well, thank you, but I've been studying German since 1988, so your comment doesn't make any sense to me, sorry :) My point is that reusing "Über-" Composite brings too much confusion and you have all chances in the world to end up explaining each and everyone that you didn't mean anything offensive. And there are better things to waste time on ;-) Alexandre

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