January 2006 - Inkscape Devel

Re: Linked vs Embedded
by Martin Owens 23 Jan '06

23 Jan '06

I do not like the idea of zipping the files, it's not svg once it's saved and it's just getting around the problem rather than facing the clarity issues with linking/embedding images. admitidly the option would be good for prof's but I'd expect them to know the tool. I don't really care about what the user 'should' be doing, that is totaly the wrong way to think about users (and it's an attitude that kills linux too) I think we should make it clear what the options are, regardless of what your personal bias or the way to arrange the options in terms of menu's/option boxes, properties. We should have it arranged so the user does not even have to think about adding an image or linking an image and the way you arange the options will reinforce to the user the way in which these work. The problem of users thinking that inkscape is broken because it links to images because of the bias of InDesign profs should be dealt with in a way that serves all our needs but does not 'preach' to the users on how they should go about their work. -- #::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::# #::.. http://www.doctormo.co.uk/ ..::# #::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::#

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Re: Linked vs Embedded
by Martin Owens 23 Jan '06

23 Jan '06

I totally agree with the points raised by Eric, adding my points that with copy/paste of image date (not a file name or href) then it would be dangerous to create a new file instead of embedding (user does not know what is being done). also the options in Erics post to do with changing between linked and embedded would take care of anyone who wants to paste linked images, handing the option to the user is always more useful, although I suspect most linkers would want to select the file or D&D it. As for copy/paste filename that should be handled as a link leaving the option to embed to the image properties. Drag and Drop should work the same as the OS, so embed normally, link when [ctrl] is held down (or how ever the os deals with it) perhaps changing the icon to show the diference. Information should be provided so when an image is selected it should say on the status bar: Relative/Direct Linked Image: [href/dir] or Embedded Image: [size] [type]. These are points to consider when improving the user interaction with external images. Best Regards, Martin Owens PS. Appologies for all the emails I've sent out directly instead of to the list -- #::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::# #::.. http://www.doctormo.co.uk/ ..::# #::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::#

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xlink:href="thisfile.svg" ?
by Eric Wilhelm 21 Jan '06

21 Jan '06

Inkscapers, Should inkscape refuse to load a file that includes an <image element which references the svg file itself? I don't see anything in the svg spec about how you're supposed to exit their (accidentally enabled?) recursion and inkscape 0.43 runs to 1.3GB of ram very quickly (I'm not brave enough today to see if it goes all the way to the OS barrier, but I don't see any signs that it wouldn't.) I would attach the file, but I don't want to get accused of sending virii :-) If you have the ram and stomach for it, just slap this into the middle of a skeleton file named image_recursive.svg and enjoy. <image y="103.00504" x="48.357143" id="image1355" height="355.85715" width="345.17828" xlink:href="image_recursive.svg" /> --Eric -- "These crispix get soggy so quickly." -- Tina Connolly --------------------------------------------------- http://scratchcomputing.com ---------------------------------------------------

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Barcode svgism
by Martin Owens 21 Jan '06

21 Jan '06

I'm not sure I understand what you mean, but if it's something that can allow objects to be edited in scope of the object but also allows those objects to be displayed. I now know alot about xml/svg dom and objects but my C is still out of date, I should get back into it and help out with the coding. Best Regards, Martin Owens On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 07:47:47 -0800 , Ted Gould <ted@...11...> wrote: >On Sat, 2006-01-21 at 00:35 +0000, Martin Owens wrote: >> If I wanted to modify inkscape to include not just the ability >> to add barcodes but also the ability to edit them when desired >> but also save then in a way which does not diminish the editing >> abilities... >> >> I was thinking of saving both the grouped standard svg data >> which makes up the barcode (so it could be rendered in any >> standard svg viewer) but also the extra information as an inkscape >> svg extention which allows one to edit the barcode again when the >> page is loaded or even print with printers that allow barcode >> instructions (more effect). > >I've been thinking about this for a while, I think many extensions would >benefit from it. > >The way that I was thinking about doing it is to allow for a 'scope' >setting on the parameters for an extension. Having three scopes: global >(the way it is now), document (settings are held in the document) and >element (where they are per use of the extension). I haven't laid any >of the groundwork for implementing this (well, except for parameters >existing) but I think it solves the problem. > > --Ted > -- #::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::# #::.. http://www.doctormo.co.uk/ ..::# #::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::#

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table top space for Inkscape display
by John Taber 21 Jan '06

21 Jan '06

Is a display table free for a open source project like Inkscape ? Several members of the Inkscape team will be there and might be able to pull together a display.

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Barcode svgism
by Martin Owens 21 Jan '06

21 Jan '06

If I wanted to modify inkscape to include not just the ability to add barcodes but also the ability to edit them when desired but also save then in a way which does not diminish the editing abilities... I was thinking of saving both the grouped standard svg data which makes up the barcode (so it could be rendered in any standard svg viewer) but also the extra information as an inkscape svg extention which allows one to edit the barcode again when the page is loaded or even print with printers that allow barcode instructions (more effect). These are just ideas for now. -- #::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::# #::.. http://www.doctormo.co.uk/ ..::# #::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::#

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New directories
by Ted Gould 21 Jan '06

21 Jan '06

I created two new modules in the subversion repository. Both of these are because Bryce has been bothering me for months to add them :) Now as a project to learn SVN/SVK I have! -- inkscape_marketing http://svn.sourceforge.net/viewcvs/inkscape/inkscape_marketing/trunk/ This is a place for all marketing materials that are used in Inkscape promotion. Currently I put all the presentations and fliers that I've done. I also put the trifold brochure done by MrDocs in Scribus in there. I hope that others will put their presentations, articles, fliers, etc in there also. -- inkscape_testfiles http://svn.sourceforge.net/viewcvs/inkscape/inkscape_testfiles/trunk/ These are a bunch of files that I've used in Inkscape testing in the past. Mostly they are weird filenames/formats for testing extensions. Other contributions to the collection are welcomed. --Ted

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WEBFORM Import images and paste inside a path
by konrad 20 Jan '06

20 Jan '06

Message from Inkscape submission form Please note, that the submitter may not read this list. CC your answer to the submitter name: konrad email: konrads@...1155... submitted the following: Hi, This is a very important feature in my life, is there a way to do this? Regards

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Re: [Inkscape-user] foreach intersection
by unknown＠example.com 19 Jan '06

19 Jan '06

Quoting Jasper van de Gronde <th.v.d.gronde@...528...>: > Another option would be to let the intersection of a group and a > path do something more interesting than complain that one of the > objects isn't a path. I'd say it would be pretty intuitive if the > intersection of a path and a group would yield a group containing > the intersections of all objects in the group and the path. Most > other operations would also seem reasonable to me. Hmm, I can definitely see that making sense for difference and maybe intersection. I'm not _quite_ sure what the expected result for union should be though. Still, I like the idea. Anyone up for implementing? -mental

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SVN tasks
by unknown＠example.com 19 Jan '06

19 Jan '06

Who is working on each of these tasks and what is their status? * establishing email notification of SVN commits * getting the web site to update from SVN rather than CVS -mental

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